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055 Gopi Panchapakesan: the introverted trial lawyer

vendredi 10 juillet 2026 • Durée 01:23:03

Gopi Panchapakesan is a first-chair trial lawyer and an introvert. He's developed an understated approach that is an effective antidote to the typical loud trial lawyer persona.

After nine trials, five in the last three years, Gopi broke down the trial techniques he's developed. We cover specific and contrarian tactics for objections, admissions, void dire, impeachment, storytelling, demonstratives, and dismantling the other side’s story.

We also discuss the benefits of constraints at trial, especially in second-guessing the evidence. And we talk about his thoughtful periodic digests that he sends to his network on lessons learned from his trials.

If you liked this episode, you'll like these:

Ep 049: Louis Tompros on creating adjacent bets
Great advocacy can feel less like persuasion and more like giving jurors the tools to decide for themselves.
Ep 048: Neel Chatterjee on testing assumptions
Juries are powerful credibility judges, and that should shape how lawyers present witnesses, facts, and themselves in court.
Ep 045: Joe Ahmad on sincerity over polish, and empathy and risk in trials
Honest, disciplined advocacy can be more persuasive than trying to win every point or oversell a case.

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054 Adam Gill: dealmaking in risk management

mardi 16 juin 2026 • Durée 01:42:33

This episode is about chopping wood. While the headlines about litigation finance involve splashy deals and volatile policy, Adam Gill takes us to the backroom to show the work of litigation finance is risk management.

This is a rare opportunity to examine the operations of litigation finance. Adam discusses how he considers the law firms, parties, budget, appellate risk, settlement posture. The work is aligning incentives for the stakeholders - dealmaking.

I'm happy to bring Adam back - he was the first podcast guest and an early supporter in my entrepreneurship.

If you liked this episode, you'll like:

001 Adam Gill: how trading stocks led to litigation finance. Adam’s first conversation gives the origin story behind this return episode: how patent-litigation curiosity, public-market analysis, and writing opened the door to litigation finance.

046 Mani Walia: the lunch that launched a fund a decade later - trust, focus, and alignment. Mani shows a different path from trial lawyer to funder, where old relationships and aligned downside become the foundation for a litigation fund.

049 Louis Tompros: what trial lawyers need to understand about winning — Louis gives the trial-lawyer version of a question Adam treats as underwriting: what actually counts as a win for the client?

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053 Rohit Nath: how curiosity leads to the frontier

lundi 1 juin 2026 • Durée 01:32:47

Rohit Nath's story includes crafting a $1.5 billion settlement with Anthropic, which if approved would be the largest copyright class action settlement ever.

But I think what's much more interesting is the process Rohit used to get here: following curiosity and overlooked opportunities.

We discuss:

What Rohit discovered by reading a Supreme Court decision 100 times
The deliberative and iterative process to crafting a path to victory in a frontier dispute
Visualizing arguments to guide whether to take on a challenging matter
How Rohit hones his craft by listening to Supreme Court arguments
The advantages of following legal issues others find boring

If you like this episode, here are three more you might like:

049 Louis Tompros: creating adjacent bets — how small, adjacent matters can become the training ground for a frontier practice.
047 Tim Yoo: how to study elite performers to find an edge — turning preparation into a performance system when the stakes move from the brief to the courtroom.
046 Mani Walia: the lunch that launched a fund a decade later - trust, focus, and alignment — how lawyer-to-lawyer trust becoming real business years later, this is the relationship-compounding companion episode.

About the host:

Khurram Naik is a partner at Freshwater Counsel, a boutique recruiting agency focused on patent litigators. Before founding the agency, he practiced patent litigation at Goodwin. Khurram hosts Khurram’s Quorum, a podcast with in-depth conversations with federal judges, first-chair trial lawyers, and chief legal officers on their career challenges and successes. Khurram also shares insights on .

052 Tim Chen Saulsbury: doing the up-front work

mercredi 13 mai 2026 • Durée 01:29:44

Tim Saulsbury is an IP litigation partner at MoFo. Tim's story is about doing the up-front work. Whether it’s:

commanding the technical record to make the most out of trial advocacy,
looking for creative early wins, or
building a moat in Japan with relationship-driven client development

Tim anticipates risks by taking a client-centric view of what success looks like and builds a responsive practice.

This is another episode that explores the relationship between being strategic and making the most out of opportunity, and the relationship between focus and diversification.

If you liked this episode, here are 3 others you might like:

047 Tim Yoo: how to study elite performers to find an edge - preparation, physiology, and treating trial work as a craft you can train for.
048 Neel Chatterjee: testing assumptions - juries, credibility, and how great trial lawyers revise their assumptions after real-world feedback.
049 Louis Tompros: creating adjacent bets - being ready for openings before they appear and building a career through smart adjacent opportunities.

About the host:

Khurram Naik is a partner at Freshwater Counsel, a boutique recruiting agency focused on patent litigators. Before founding the agency, he practiced patent litigation at Goodwin. Khurram hosts Khurram’s Quorum, a podcast with in-depth conversations with federal judges, first-chair trial lawyers, and chief legal officers on their career challenges and successes. Khurram also shares insights on .

051 Alamdar Hamdani: seeing around the corner in enforcement

mercredi 15 avril 2026 • Durée 01:37:43

Alamdar Hamdani is a former U.S. Attorney who now helps clients anticipate where enforcement priorities are forming before they are fully revealed. In this episode, we explore how Alamdar synthesizes executive orders, DOJ messaging, leadership signals, charging patterns, and institutional incentives to help clients see around the corner.

This is a rare opportunity to learn how an experienced prosecutor builds a practice from the ground up. This episode demystifies how this new chapter gets written.

If you liked this episode, here are 3 others you might like:

049 Louis Tompros: creating adjacent bets
- How to find your edge and create opportunities before the market hands them to you.
047 Tim Yoo: how to study elite performers to find an edge
- Building repeatable systems and using deliberate preparation to create real advantage.
046 Mani Walia: the lunch that launched a fund a decade later - trust, focus, and alignment
- How to compound relationships for years before they turn into visible business outcomes.

About the host:

Khurram Naik is a partner at Freshwater Counsel, a boutique recruiting agency focused on patent litigators. Before founding the agency, he practiced patent litigation at Goodwin. Khurram hosts Khurram’s Quorum, a podcast with in-depth conversations with federal judges, first-chair trial lawyers, and chief legal officers on their career challenges and successes. Khurram also shares insights on .

050 Shashi Kewalramani: compounding skills across a nonlinear career

mercredi 8 avril 2026 • Durée 01:40:44

Shashi Kewalramani has built a nonlinear career across elite private practice, the U.S. Attorney’s Office, criminal defense, the bench, and now mediation.

This episode is about how skills compound across those chapters.

Some of the most valuable legal skills are not built in the most obvious places. In this episode, we explore:

Nonlinearity

openness to roles that do not look “on path” from the outside

why the safe path is not always the path to the best skill development

how varied experiences can clarify what you are actually good at

CJA

trust is built through time, transparency, and action

indigent defense can be elite training in client counseling

the hardest thing is often getting the truth from your own client

Magistrate jurisprudence

magistrate roles are underrated schools for writing, discovery, and case management

repetition builds judicial pattern recognition

Compounding advantage

skills learned in one role transfer into the next

deep listening, credibility, and clear explanation become differentiators later

a nonlinear career can produce a more durable kind of expertise

If you liked this episode, here are 3 others you might like:

049 Louis Tompros: creating adjacent bets

mardi 17 mars 2026 • Durée 01:41:51

Judge Richard Linn first pointed me to Louis Tompros years ago, when he told me my entrepreneurial approach to breaking into patent litigation reminded him of one of his former clerks. The story he shared stayed with me: Louis created his own chance to argue at the Federal Circuit by stepping into a pro bono inventor appeal.

In this episode, we explore how Louis has built durable edge through high-agency adjacent bets:

Agency

create your own reps instead of waiting for permission
take manageable risks to accelerate learning
use pro bono work, teaching, and relationship-building to create career-accelerating opportunities

Adjacency

bounded adjacent bets strengthen the core rather than distract from it
trial and appellate work sharpen each other
patent, copyright, and trademark work inform each other
plaintiff and defense work reveal the other side’s blind spots

Teaching

teaching forces you back to first principles
it makes you more creative as a practitioner
in a mistrust-heavy courtroom, the best advocates help the audience feel capable of deciding

Client perspective

the client is the fourth audience
you can win the case and still miss what matters most to the client

048 Neel Chatterjee: testing assumptions

mercredi 11 mars 2026 • Durée 01:45:35

Neel Chatterjee has been testing some assumptions. In Neel's return to the podcast, we discuss what's changed in how he works.

The recurring theme of this episode was testing assumptions. That includes:

testing what jurors really think about "big tech companies"
building consensus through a new model of a professional association of lawyers, Law Firm Partners United
changing his belief of how to go to trial based on what he learned from fifth-graders.

We also talk about specific techniques to use to invest in your network, like looking for the "twofer".

About the host:

Khurram Naik is a partner at Freshwater Counsel, a boutique recruiting agency focused on patent litigators. Before founding the agency, he practiced patent litigation at Goodwin. Khurram hosts Khurram’s Quorum, a podcast with in-depth conversations with federal judges, first-chair trial lawyers, and chief legal officers on their career challenges and successes. Khurram also shares insights on LinkedIn.

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047 Tim Yoo: how to study elite performers to find an edge

jeudi 26 février 2026 • Durée 01:23:18

Timothy Yoo is a first-chair trial lawyer who treats litigation like sport. Tim models his preparation and execution based on principles elite performers use:

Prepare your physiology. Cortisol and adrenaline are part of the job; rehearsal is how you meet the moment.
Pre-commit decisions. Use decision trees in outlines so you avoid reactivity under pressure.
Credibility isn't just what, it's also how. Factfinders and clients read conviction, nuance, and authenticity through delivery.
Be a reliable narrator. Your job is to help factfinders see the other side and draw their own conclusions.
Adversaries are opportunities. Opposing counsel is your foil/dance partner, then you shake hands at the net.
You'll use everything. Variety across matters compounds into mastery for the next big stage.

About the host:

Khurram Naik is a partner at Freshwater Counsel, a boutique recruiting agency focused on patent litigators. Before founding the agency, he practiced patent litigation at Goodwin. Khurram hosts Khurram’s Quorum, a podcast with in-depth conversations with federal judges, first-chair trial lawyers, and chief legal officers on their career challenges and successes. Khurram also shares insights on LinkedIn.

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046 Mani Walia: the lunch that launched a fund a decade later - trust, focus, and alignment

mardi 27 janvier 2026 • Durée 01:20:34

When Mani was an associate at Susman Godfrey, he took a new colleague out for lunch for a vulnerable conversation about the demands of elite practice.

A decade later, Mani's lunch friend was now a rainmaker - and Mani was who he called for funding.

In this episode, we explore how Mani has used principles of trust, focus, and alignment to go from trial lawyer to GC of a multi-strategy fund to launching a litigation fund:

Trust
- being trusted as a peer trial lawyer created the relationships that led to the fund
- the intangibles become the tangibles
Focus
- focusing on Texas trial lawyers creates operational excellence
- it also enables them to act faster on decaying assets using limited information
Alignment
- aligning upside and downside with firms creates a flywheel for trust and repeatability
- it also allows them to take risks others shy from

About the host:

Khurram Naik is a partner at Freshwater Counsel, a boutique recruiting agency focused on patent litigators. Before founding the agency, he practiced patent litigation at Goodwin. Khurram hosts Khurram’s Quorum, a podcast with in-depth conversations with federal judges, first-chair trial lawyers, and chief legal officers on their career challenges and successes. Khurram also shares insights on LinkedIn.

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