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Why Introverts Might Be Better Leaders Than Extroverts with Antoinette Griffin12 Sep 202500:39:45

What if being introverted wasn’t a weakness to “fix,” but a strength to lead with?

In this episode, my guest is Antoinette Griffin, a leadership coach, trainer, and faculty member with Maxwell Leadership who specializes in communication and human behavior. You’ve probably seen her on some of the biggest Maxwell stages, but what makes her story powerful is that she started out terrified of public speaking. Today, she’s teaching leaders around the world how to thrive by leaning into who they really are.

We dive into:

  • The surprising strengths introverts bring to leadership and communication
  • Why extroverts (like me!) often misunderstand introverts, and how to bridge that gap
  • The difference between “speaking to think” and “thinking to speak” (this one hit me hard)
  • Why communication, not just strategy is the make-or-break factor in families, businesses, and teams
  • How Antoinette overcame shyness and stage fright to become a sought-after speaker and coach

If you’ve ever wondered how to bridge the gap between introverts and extroverts or if you want to become a better communicator no matter your style, this conversation will give you tools you can put to work right away.

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The Question That Changes Everything: Dr. Patrick Davitt on Finding Your Why05 Sep 202500:52:32

What if the difference between where you are and where you want to be comes down to one word—discipline?

In this episode I sit down with my good friend Dr. Patrick Davitt, a John Maxwell certified coach, professor, author, ultra-endurance athlete, and all-around powerhouse in body, mind, and spirit. His story isn’t just impressive—it’s a living example of what happens when you align discipline with purpose.

Here’s a glimpse of what we get into:

  • Why the foundation of leadership always starts with leading yourself first.
  • How discipline in one area of life spills into every other area.
  • Why clarity of your why is more important than clarity of your how.
  • The small daily actions that build unstoppable momentum.
  • Lessons Patrick has carried from running 100-mile races to coaching leaders and writing his new book, Words of Worth.

Patrick’s journey from feeling lost in college to becoming a leader in health, performance, and personal growth will resonate with anyone who’s ever felt stuck but knew deep down there was something more. His energy is contagious, his wisdom is practical, and his story will challenge you to ask better questions of yourself.

If you’ve ever wondered how to push past limits, build resilience, and grow into the leader your family, business, and community need—you’ll want to lean into this conversation.

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The Cadence That Builds Winning Dealerships with Brian Kramer29 Aug 202500:53:40

In this episode my guest is Brian Kramer, Executive Vice President at Cars Commerce and General Manager of AccuTrade. Brian’s career has taken him from washing cars as a porter to leading one of the most innovative companies in the automotive space. Along the way, he’s learned what it really takes to transform dealership culture, build trust inside an organization, and lead teams through the messy middle of change.

We talk about how leadership isn’t just about knowing the numbers, but about creating rhythms that keep teams focused and accountable. Brian shares what he learned from some of the industry’s best mentors, how to navigate the tension between innovation and scalability, and why trust—broken into personal, technical, and ethical layers—is the foundation of every successful store.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the whirlwind of dealership life, or wondered how the best leaders cut through the noise and focus on what matters most, this conversation is going to give you clarity and direction you can actually apply.

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Are You Leading People… or Just Managing Problems? with Deb Ingino22 Aug 202500:41:56

What do you do when you feel like the odds are stacked against you?

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and powerhouse leader, Deb Ingino, faculty member of Maxwell Leadership and CEO of Strength Leader. From growing up as the oldest of seven kids in a two-bedroom Bronx apartment to becoming a senior executive leading global operations in over 80 countries, Deb’s leadership journey is anything but conventional.

We talk about what it means to lead without a degree, how to handle conflict when egos and offices are on the line, and the pivotal role trust plays in building teams that actually work. Deb shares how assessments like DISC can transform not only workplaces but also marriages, families, and friendships. (And yes—we even talk about how a window office overlooking a smelly parking lot became a turning point in her career!)

This conversation is packed with wisdom about embracing your strengths, leading with heart, and finding peace in the middle of chaos. If you’ve ever questioned your path or felt like you didn’t check all the boxes, Deb’s story will show you that your unique journey is exactly what prepares you to lead at the highest level.

You’ll walk away inspired, challenged, and maybe even laughing at a few stories that prove leadership isn’t about titles or degrees—it’s about people, trust, and courage.

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3 Culture Mistakes That Are Quietly Costing Your Business with John Griffin15 Aug 202500:48:47

Some leaders talk about culture like it’s a “nice to have.”

John Griffin will tell you, it’s the make-or-break factor for every organization.

In this episode, I sit down with John Griffin, Vice President of Global Programs at Maxwell Leadership, a man who’s walked through deep personal trials, learned the power of forgiveness, and now helps leaders and companies all over the world build cultures that actually last.

John’s story is raw, faith-filled, and disarmingly real. From a childhood marked by brokenness to finding his identity in Christ, he’s learned firsthand that leadership begins with self-leadership—and that means taking off the masks we wear, dealing with what’s inside, and leading from a place of wholeness.

We talk about:

  • Why culture isn’t just an HR buzzword, it’s the heartbeat of your business.
  • How to spot when your team is wearing masks (and how to help them take them off).
  • The link between personal healing, authentic leadership, and business performance.
  • Practical ways to measure your organization’s culture so you know what’s really going on behind the scenes.
  • Why focusing on people first almost always drives profit as a byproduct.

If you’re a leader who’s tired of surface-level fixes and ready to dig into the real work that transforms people and organizations, this conversation will challenge, encourage, and maybe even change the way you lead.

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The Leadership Blind Spot That’s Costing You Loyalty09 Aug 202500:37:00

In this episode, it’s just me with you again and we’re diving deep into one of John Maxwell’s most powerful leadership principles: the Law of Addition. It’s the idea that real leaders add value to others by serving them.

We’ll look at what that means in everyday leadership, whether you’re running a dealership, managing a restaurant, or leading a small business. You’ll hear why “being the boss” doesn’t automatically make you influential, and how small, intentional actions can completely change the way your team responds to you.

I’ll share the three questions every empowered employee should be asking themselves daily, why failing forward might be the most valuable skill you can develop, and the 10 culture touchpoints that can make or break your organization.

This isn’t theory — it’s about practical ways to serve, lead, and build a culture that inspires loyalty, trust, and results.

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The 4 Leadership Laws That Will Make or Break Your Dealership02 Aug 202500:30:36

In this solo episode of Keep The Change, I’m diving into something I didn’t plan... but was prompted by that good ol’ still small voice. You know the one. The voice that whispers, “Do this,” and you want to say, “Darn it,” because you know it’s going to stretch you. That voice led me back to one of the most powerful resources in my leadership journey: John Maxwell’s 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership.

But we’re not covering all 21—just four that could quietly be shaping (or stalling) your team’s performance right now.

We unpack what your leadership lid actually is, how it affects your store’s results, and why some dealerships with the same inventory and location are selling 3x more than others. Spoiler: it’s not the salespeople.

We also get into:

  • Why trust is more valuable than skill (and why your people may not trust you as much as you think)
  • The real difference between surviving the month and winning
  • How your daily priorities are either growing people—or just keeping the wheels spinning

I’m sharing real stories from dealerships I’ve worked with, the hard lessons I learned in my early leadership days, and the one uncomfortable question every leader should be asking themselves this week.

If you’ve ever looked at two stores with the same inventory and wondered why one’s selling 300 cars while the other is stuck at 100… this is the conversation you need to hear.

Let’s dig into that. This episode might just be the mirror we all need.

Oh—and if you want to go deeper, join me Wednesday, August 6th at 9PM Eastern for the first session of the 3-week Leadership Workshop. We’re not just learning—we’re transforming.

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Why Most People Stay Stuck (And How to Stop Being One of Them) with Paul Martinelli25 Jul 202500:45:52

In this episode of Keep the Change, I get the absolute honor of sitting down with one of the most impactful mentors of my life—Paul Martinelli.

Now, when I say Paul has built empires... I mean it. From a high school dropout sleeping in a karate dojo, to launching eight multi-million dollar businesses and co-founding the John Maxwell Team, Paul’s journey is proof that your past doesn’t get to decide your future.

But this isn’t just a rags-to-riches story. This is about how changing your thinking changes your life.

We talk about:

  • How limiting beliefs are programmed in early—and how to break free from them
  • What it really takes to build a business from nothing
  • The power of betting on yourself (Paul dropped HALF A MILLION to build Maxwell’s certification program—before they even shook hands)
  • Why most people say they want change but secretly fear it
  • How to make the wrong decision the right one
  • And the one question Paul asks before taking any action (trust me, you’ll want to steal this)

You’ll hear wild stories about million-dollar failures, investing in yourself when no one else will, and how Paul is now helping others build financial freedom through his Empowered Living platform.

But more than that—this is a deep, raw look into the mindset behind massive transformation. If you’ve ever felt stuck, limited, or like your dreams are just out of reach... this episode is your invitation to think again.

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The Culture Every Dealership (and Business) Needs to Survive What’s Coming with Eustace Mita18 Jul 202500:45:43

In this episode of Keep The Change, I sit down with someone who’s not just a mentor, not just a friend—but the man who shaped my entire view on leadership, business, and what it truly means to love people through your work: Euse Mita.

Euse isn’t just leading companies—he’s creating movements. With five businesses, five kids, and seventeen grandkids, he’s still running circles around most of us—and doing it all with heart. This episode dives deep into what real leadership looks like, the mission behind meaningful culture, and why most businesses fall flat when they forget the “why.”

Here’s a glimpse of what we talk about:

  • The difference between “head-based” leadership and leading from the heart (and why most mission statements miss the mark)
  • How dishwashers, valets, and CEOs can all embody the same love-centered culture
  • The 3 questions every leader should ask if they really mean business
  • Why culture—not capital—is your greatest asset (and how to build one that lasts)
  • Why "work" should feel more like a vocation, and why that mindset shift changes everything
  • The power of “each one teach one” and why love is the strongest business principle of all

We also talk about faith, family, failure, and legacy in a way that’s raw, real, and inspiring. Euse opens up about lessons from building Half A Car, his vision for hospitality as ministry, and why you don’t need more strategy—you need more soul.

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What Happens When You Lead Without Emotional Intelligence with Adam Holbrook11 Jul 202500:47:24

In this episode, my guest is Adam Holbrook from Maxwell Leadership—an entrepreneur who built and sold two companies, and someone who knows firsthand what it means to lead others after learning how to lead himself.

We talk about the side of leadership that doesn’t show up on spreadsheets—like what to do when you’re working 90 hours a week, miserable, and pretending everything's fine. Adam shares how emotional intelligence helped him go from burnout and self-destruction to peace and purpose. He opens up about how delaying your emotions, releasing blame, and letting go of the need for an apology can shift not just your leadership, but your entire life.

We also dive into:

  • What separates great salespeople from real leaders
  • The personal habits that affect your professional culture
  • How to grow your emotional intelligence (and why it matters more than IQ)
  • How small mindset shifts can help you handle conflict and lead with clarity

This episode is full of honest stories, practical takeaways, and tools you can apply whether you lead a dealership, a team, or your own household. If you're tired of the noise and just want real talk about what it takes to be better—for your people and for yourself—this is one to listen to from start to finish.

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How to Build a Family Business That Lasts: Lessons with Matt Lewis (Part 2)04 Jul 202500:39:11

In this episode, my guest is Matt Lewis from Lewis Automotive, and we’re picking up where we left off. This is Part Two of our conversation, where we dive deeper into how Matt’s leadership philosophy drives real results, but we also open up about the hurdles, the growing pains, and the mindset shifts that come with scaling a family business. 

Matt doesn’t sugarcoat it—he talks about what worked, what didn’t, and why letting go of control might just be the next level for your business.

In this episode, we talk about:

  • Why focusing on your employees first is the key to a great customer experience.
  • The leadership mistakes that hold businesses back from scaling.
  • How to create a work environment people don’t want to leave—even when they get a job offer down the road.
  • The mindset shift leaders need to move from “doing” to truly empowering.
  • Why managing your emotions is one of the most underrated leadership skills.
  • And what endurance sports can teach us about mental toughness, problem-solving, and leading when things don’t go as planned.

We also get personal about faith, purpose, and the real reason Matt does what he does. It’s one of those conversations that hits both the head and the heart.

This is part two of our chat, if you missed part one, make sure you go back and catch it. 

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How to Build a Family Business That Lasts: Lessons with Matt Lewis (Part 1)27 Jun 202500:34:04

Have you ever wondered what it really takes to build a family business that thrives for four generations? Not just survives—thrives.

In this episode, I sit down with my friend Matt Lewis from Lewis Automotive, and let me tell you… this isn’t your typical leadership chat. We sit down for part one of a conversation that’s real, practical, and packed with lessons about leadership, family business, and building something that actually lasts.

Matt shares what it’s like leading alongside his brothers in a family business that started in 1946 with just six cars and a dream. We dive into:

  • The real key to sustaining family businesses across generations
  • How to build leadership teams that actually buy in
  • Why most people think they’re delegating—but they’re actually abandoning
  • The power of asking better questions (and what most leaders miss)

And there’s this wild story about how Matt landed his first internship by refusing to stop calling. (Seriously, you’ll want to hear that.)

We also talk about faith in the workplace, leadership blind spots, and how true success comes when you focus on helping others hit their goals first.

If you’re leading a team, growing a business, or trying to build something that lasts—this episode is packed with gold you don’t want to miss.

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How to Hire, Lead, and Keep Top Talent in Automotive with Larry Feldman20 Jun 202500:39:08

In this episode, my guest is Larry Feldman, a 30-year auto industry powerhouse who's done it all—from award-winning Cadillac sales to dealership ownership and now, transforming lives through recruiting and leadership training.

If you’ve ever wondered what separates a manager from a leader… or how to spot the real difference between someone who talks a big game and someone who actually shows up—this one’s for you.

Larry’s the kind of guy who doesn’t just say the right things—he lives them. He shares what he’s learned from helping dealerships all across the country find their people… and more importantly, keep their people. We talk about:

  • Why good energy always wins (and how to spot it in a candidate)
  • What most hiring managers get wrong (and how to fix it fast)
  • Why leading from the front isn’t optional
  • And how the best managers are more like coaches—with accountability, heart, and a little grit

We even swap some wild stories from the front lines—including how Larry accidentally built a powerhouse recruiting business that’s quietly filling stores with top talent.

If you're in the auto biz and you care about people—your team, your store, your future—then you’re going to love this.

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Inside the Mind of a BDC Trainer: What Actually Drives Results with Anthony Alagona13 Jun 202500:44:04

In this episode, my guest is Anthony Alagona—founder of By Appointment Only, and a guy who's built a powerhouse BDC business without even having a website.

We talk about what it actually takes to build something from scratch when the odds are stacked against you. From sleeping in a car to being booked out for a full year, Anthony walks us through the hard lessons that helped shape his approach to training, leadership, and growth.

We also touch on:

  • How Anthony went from rock bottom and no license… to being booked 52 weeks in advance.
  • The power of unreasonable hospitality—and how it's changing the car business.
  • Why the best training doesn’t happen in a classroom, but around a table, over a story.
  • Why Anthony still doesn’t have a website (yep—you read that right).
  • And how “Can I customize your experience?” might just be the best sales line you’ve never used.

You’ll hear how hospitality shaped his approach to automotive, why building relationships always beats algorithms, and how he trains people to not just show up—but to be memorable. Anthony doesn’t hold back about what it takes to survive a career pivot, fight off a bad reputation, and still keep your head up.

If you're building something, leading a team, or trying to figure out how to bounce back when things fall apart—there’s a lot to take away here.

He also shares how he turns dealerships around from the inside, why BDCs are more than phone rooms, and how to coach people so they want to be coached.

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The Danger of Complacency: Why You’re Doing Well… But Not Growing with Chris Robinson06 Jun 202500:52:53

In this episode, my guest is Chris Robinson, Executive Vice President at Maxwell Leadership — and one of the most purpose-driven leaders I know.

We talk about something that doesn’t get talked about enough: what happens when you’re doing “well enough,” but deep down you know you’ve stopped growing.

Chris shares the real story behind his new book From Drift to Drive, and we break down the seven steps he uses (and teaches others) to get clear, take action, and shake off the weight of complacency — especially the kind that sneaks in when life is comfortable.

We get into:

  • What clarity really looks like in your life and work
  • Why “being busy” isn’t the same as moving forward
  • How to gather and filter the right information to avoid drowning in content
  • The role of mentors and why your circle can either build you up or hold you back
  • How to take consistent action, even when it’s messy or uncertain
  • Why evluation is the step most people skip — and what that’s costing them

Chris also opens up about his personal turning point — the moment that changed the trajectory of his life — and how it shaped the way he shows up today as a husband, father of six, and leader of thousands.

Whether you’re leading a business, a family, or just trying to get yourself to the next level… this one will challenge you, encourage you, and give you tools you can actually use.

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How to Scale Leadership, Build Trust, and Win in Used Cars with Brian Kramer30 May 202500:53:40

In this episode, my guest is Brian Kramer, Executive VP at Cars Commerce and GM of AccuTrade.

Brian’s got one of the sharpest minds in the business, and we cover a lot of ground in this conversation—from used car profitability to leadership habits that actually move the needle in today’s stores.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by too many tools, too many meetings, or just the general whirlwind of the car biz… this episode will help you refocus on what actually matters.

Here’s a glimpse at what we talk about:

  • Why “doing less” might be the secret to selling more
  • How Brian used a simple app link to unlock hundreds of trade-ins
  • What every manager should text their team every single night
  • The 3 types of trust that make or break your store culture
  • How to build a daily rhythm that keeps your team aligned (without micromanaging)

We also get into the mindset shift Brian had to make when leaving retail for Cars Commerce—and how he’s now using that experience to shape tools that actually work for dealers.

If you’re in a dealership, leading a team, or just trying to get better at the craft—there’s gold in this one. Brian doesn’t hold back, and he shares hard-earned lessons that can save you months (or years) of learning the hard way.

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Why Most Dealerships Struggle With Leadership—and What This GM Did Differently - John Roberts23 May 202500:44:06

In this episode, my guest is John Roberts, General Manager of Roberts Motors in Alton, Illinois. John’s family has been in the car business for over 70 years, and he’s got a perspective that’s not just shaped by longevity—but by deep transformation.

We talk about what it really means to lead people, not just manage them. John shares how he went from being a shy porter who avoided conversation to running a dealership that’s grown over 30% this year. He opens up about the turning points in his career, the hard lessons, and why leadership has nothing to do with titles and everything to do with how you show up for your people.

We also talk about:

  • Why telling people what to do doesn’t work (and what actually does)
  • The practical changes that helped John and his team boost performance
  • What a simple daily check-in can do to shift culture and accountability
  • Why humility—not ego—is the real power move in leadership
  • And how to recognize when you’re the one who needs to grow

We also dive into some real talk about coaching, feedback, and how those uncomfortable moments—the ones where people doubt you—can fuel your biggest breakthroughs.

If you’re a GM, sales leader, or just someone who wants to lead better and connect more with your team, this one’s worth the time. It’s honest, it’s useful, and you might hear a bit of your own story in John’s.

Take a listen.

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Chris Saraceno: What If Your Life’s Success Was Just Five Questions Away?16 May 202500:47:42

Before we dive in, a heartfelt tribute... At the request of my guest Chris Saraceno, I want to take a moment to honor someone who’s had a deep and lasting impact on both of our lives — Frank Marr.

 Frank has been a mentor, a friend, and a guiding voice for decades at the Kelly Automotive Group. His wisdom, loyalty, and unwavering support have helped shape who we are as leaders and as people. While his name wasn’t mentioned in the original conversation, his influence runs through every part of this episode. Frank, this one’s for you. 

In this episode, my guest is Chris Saraceno, Vice President and Partner at Kelly Automotive Group, and the author of The Theory of Five — a framework that’s been quietly transforming how top performers live and lead.

We talk about the five key areas that shape a fulfilling life — faith, relationships, parenting, finance, and health — and the five people you spend the most time with that either pull you forward or hold you back.

But this isn’t just theory.

Chris shares real-life stories and practical questions you can ask yourself right now to take stock of where you’re at and who you’re becoming. We break down:

  • How to find mentors in every area of your life (and why you don’t need just one)
  • The link between your personal health and your professional success
  • Why the people closest to you might be keeping you stuck — and how to shift that dynamic
  • And how middle managers in dealerships (or any organization) can grow beyond the grind

You’ll also hear why consistency matters more than intensity, why emotional intelligence is your secret weapon, and how asking the right questions leads to breakthrough.

This episode is full of honest insights and actionable takeaways — especially if you’re ready to stop drifting and start building a life that matters.

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What Most Manager Gets Wrong About Leadership - And How to Break Free09 May 202500:37:33

Ever wonder why some leaders transform entire teams while others just manage to keep the lights on?

In today’s solo episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on a strategy that’s not just another leadership theory – it’s the secret sauce to turning average managers into powerhouse leaders. And it all starts with one question: Are you a Level 4 Leader?

You’ve heard me talk about John Maxwell’s 5 Levels of Leadership, but today, we’re going deeper – way deeper.

 We’re diving into:

  • How a high-performing sales rep went from top dog to terrible manager in record time – and what every dealership owner needs to learn from it.
  •  The critical shift from position-based leadership to people development leadership – and why this is the sweet spot for dealership success. 
  •  The 5 essential elements of a high-performance environment, from vision to activating your team to become self-coaching powerhouses. 
  •  Why emotional intelligence is the missing link in almost every underperforming leader – and how to level up quickly. 
  • Why most managers get stuck at Level 1 – and how to level up to people development leadership (the real moneymaker in the dealership world).

And here’s the kicker – I’m sharing the blueprint for my new Transforming Leadership in the Dealership webinar series, packed with the kind of insights that can shift your entire organization’s trajectory.

 If you’re ready to stop managing and start leading, if you’re serious about transforming your team from average to unstoppable, this episode is your blueprint. 

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How Mike Luner Holds $4K Gross Per Car Without Charging Over MSRP02 May 202500:41:58

What if I told you that there’s a Toyota dealer in the Midwest pulling $4K in front-end gross per unit… without ever charging over MSRP?

Yeah, read that again.

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and industry powerhouse, Mike Luner—a guy I’ve known and respected for over 30 years. Mike isn’t just running a dealership. He’s building a culture where process, profit, and people all win. We talk about real leadership, real margins, and real strategies that actually work in today’s market—even with all the noise about margin compression.

Here’s what we dive into:

  •  How Mike turned a small-town Toyota store into a gross-generating machine (think $800K+ in front-end just from Seal Jet and Diamond Fusion)
  •  His bulletproof trade-in strategy that starts low and wins big—every time
  •  Why his salespeople are averaging $85K/year and not leaving
  •  The secret to consistent leadership: Friday sales meetings (for 40 years straight!) and never being too good to sweep the lot
  •  Why 50+ cars/month from a full-time buyer is about to change his used car game
  •  Plus: We talk about how to train like champions, present like pros, and lead like servant-hearted operators

If you’ve ever wondered how to actually hold gross in a compressed market, build a process that sticks, or lead a team that wants to stay and grow with you—this is the episode.

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How to Build a Winning Sales Team From the Ground Up25 Apr 202500:37:06

What if I told you… sales isn’t just something you do — it’s who you become?

In this solo episode, I’m opening up the playbook.

From watching my mom take over the family dealership with zero experience and turning it into a powerhouse, to my own journey through sales, leadership, AutoNation, Maxwell Leadership, and now running coaching bootcamps — I’m laying it all out.

But this episode isn’t about my story…

It’s about how you can take real action in yours.

Here’s what we get into:

  • The spark that reignited my love for sales training (and how God used a coffee shop to do it).
  • Why most salespeople don’t lack motivation—they lack meaningful goals.
  • A simple goal-setting exercise that will change the way your team thinks (and sells).
  • The three types of customers you must understand — and the one that makes the biggest difference.
  • Why your people need more than process—they need purpose. And how you help them find it.
  • A breakdown of the Auto Mastery Bootcamp framework—from mindset to metrics, and everything in between.

Plus…

I’ll give you the exact exercise we use in our bootcamps that gets sales teams fired up and focused. It’s practical, repeatable, and it works. And if you want to steal it? Be my guest.

This episode is for the leaders who care.

For the ones ready to develop their people—not just manage them.

And for anyone who knows deep down… there’s more potential in the room.

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How to Build a Dealership Culture That Actually Works18 Apr 202500:53:44

In this episode, my guests are Kyle Newsom and Tom Fennen, co-founders of Visperio—a company on a mission to transform dealership leadership from the inside out. We talk about everything from emotional intelligence in fixed ops to the leadership philosophies that are actually moving the needle in today’s fast-paced automotive world.

These guys aren’t just dropping strategies...

They’re challenging the entire way we think about leadership in the dealership.

Here’s why you should hit play:

  •  You’ll learn how to move from "managing numbers" to leading people
  •  Discover why kindness is accountability in disguise
  •  Find out the #1 mindset shift new service managers need to make
  •  Learn how emotional intelligence directly impacts your team’s retention and performance
  •  And—why selling time (not just services) could change your fixed ops game

Plus, you’ll hear Tom drop wisdom like “It’s not about being right, it’s about getting it right”… and Kyle’s reminder that we’re not selling oil changes—we’re selling time. Every word in this one is gold.

If you’ve ever felt stuck between the numbers and the people...

If you’ve ever wondered how to lead with both strength and softness...

Or if you're just tired of turnover and know there’s gotta be a better way—

Then this one’s for you.

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A New Way to Lead: How These Car Dealers Built a Culture That Wins11 Apr 202500:51:09

In this episode, I sit down with two incredible leaders—Mickey Seelye, President of Seelye Automotive Group, and Stan Qualls, GM and culture driver—to unpack what really drives sustainable success in the car business.

Here’s the twist: it’s not about selling more cars.
 It’s about serving more people.

Whether you're a GM, GSM, sales leader, or dealer principal, this conversation will challenge how you see your role—not just as a business operator, but as a leader who carries real influence at home, in the store, and beyond.

In this episode, we talk about:

  • The wild origin story of Seelye Auto Group: from janitor to dealer principal
  • Why culture beats commission plans—and how to build one that actually lasts
  • Leading with faith in a high-pressure, high-performance industry
  • What’s really keeping your managers up at night—and how to show up for them
  • Identity, burnout, addiction, redemption... and why your best days are still ahead

If you're in the auto industry and you’ve ever felt like:

  • You're great at the grind, but struggling to connect with your team
  • You're hitting the numbers, but something’s missing at home
  • Or you’ve lost yourself chasing titles, trophies, and 20 Groups…

…this episode is your reset button.

It’s raw. It’s honest. And it’s exactly what more dealers need to hear in today’s business climate.

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How Anthony Birdsong Overcame Trauma to Build a #1 Car Dealership04 Apr 202500:39:07

What if I told you the most powerful leadership lessons don’t come from business school… but from pain, adversity, and choosing to rise when life tries to bury you? That’s exactly what my guest, Anthony Birdsong, brings to this episode—and trust me, you’re not ready for how real it gets. 

What We Talk About:

In this raw, unfiltered conversation, Anthony peels back the layers of his incredible journey—from being raised amidst addiction and instability to building Maryland’s #1 independent used car dealership. We talk about what it takes to lead a team of 60 with heart, humility, and hustle. Anthony shares how the darkest moments of his life, including childhood trauma and nearly losing everything during COVID, became the fuel for his transformation.

You’ll hear how faith, relentless self-awareness, and the power of personal development reshaped his life—and how his wife and son became the ultimate anchors in his storm. There’s wisdom here for anyone who’s ever felt stuck, broken, or unsure of their worth. We also dig deep into what real leadership means, and how being “just a used car dealer” is only a small part of why Anthony’s story matters.

Whether you’re in the car biz or not, this episode will challenge you, move you, and maybe even push you to confront your own story with new courage.

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Why Most Managers Plateau—and How to Break the Cycle in Your Dealership28 Mar 202500:37:33

Want to become the kind of leader people actually want to follow? Here’s the wake-up call you didn’t know you needed.

If you're in automotive leadership—or honestly, any leadership—and you’ve ever found yourself wondering why your team isn’t performing at the level you know they're capable of… this episode is for you.

I’m flying solo this week and we’re digging deep into what I believe is the biggest difference-maker in today’s dealerships: transformational leadership at the manager level. I’m not talking about barking orders from the desk—I’m talking about building real influence, leveling up your ability to coach, and leading with a vision that inspires.

In this episode, I break down:

  • Why being a “position” leader is the lowest form of leadership (and why most managers unknowingly get stuck there)
  • John Maxwell’s 5 Levels of Leadership—and how to move from permission to production to people development
  • The real story of Johnny and Marty: how toxic mentorship shaped a dealership’s downfall
  • Why top salespeople often flop when they get promoted—and how to fix it
  • How to activate your team through powerful coaching, asking better questions, and building trust that drives results
  • The 5 elements of a high-performance environment that every manager should master
  • Plus, the four traits that every Level 4 Leader must develop (and how they tie back to ROI, retention, and culture)

Whether you’re aiming to be the GM, lead your team through uncertain times, or just get your people fired up again, this is the episode that shows you how to get there—without losing your soul (or your sanity).

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Glenn Pasch: Leadership Lessons to Fix Broken Dealership Systems21 Mar 202500:55:17

What if the key to unlocking explosive dealership growth isn’t more leads—but better leadership?

In this episode of Keep the Change, I sit down with the one and only Glenn Pasch, CEO of PCG Digital, to unpack the real game-changer in automotive: bridging the gap between marketing and the customer experience. If you've been in the industry for any amount of time, you know Glenn is the guy dealerships turn to when they want to level up.

We’re talking about:

  •  Why most dealerships lose sales before a customer ever steps on the lot
  •  The biggest mistake dealerships make with their managers (and how to fix it)
  •  How great leaders turn their sales teams into coaches instead of micromanagers
  •  The exact playbook to create raving fanatics for your dealership
  •  Why a dealership with (one price, no negotiation) is thriving—and what you can learn from it

And let’s not forget—Glenn’s got a new book dropping in April (The Road to Sold), and he gives us an inside look at what’s inside!

This episode is packed with real, practical strategies that can transform the way you run your dealership. If you're serious about scaling up and creating a high-performance team, hit play now.

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Joel Manby: Why Love Wins in Business14 Mar 202500:52:43

What if I told you that love—not fear, not pressure—creates the most successful businesses?

I know, I know. In a world of bottom lines and quotas, that might sound soft. But today’s guest, Joel Manby, is here to flip that thinking on its head. And trust me, you don’t want to miss this one.

Joel isn’t just any leader—he’s the former CEO of Saab, HFE Enterprises, and a guy who’s navigated the high-stakes world of automotive and theme parks. But his real game-changer? He’s proven that leading with love gets results.

In this episode, we dive deep into:

  •  How love-driven leadership boosts employee performance, customer satisfaction, AND profits.
  •  The Saturn "No-Haggle" revolution—and what it taught Joel about disrupting an industry.
  •  How a personal failure led him to a leadership style that changed his life (and thousands of others).
  •  The 7 words that define a culture of love—and why most leaders get them wrong.
  •  The moment that nearly broke him… and the call that changed everything.

Joel’s been on Undercover Boss, worked with Amazon’s first car-selling venture, and learned leadership at Harvard Business School—but his biggest lessons? They didn’t come from boardrooms.

If you're in automotive, leadership, or just want to build a culture where people thrive—this is your episode. 

Hit play now and start leading with impact.

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Drew Tutton: How to Lead a Dealership in 202507 Mar 202500:40:30

You ever wonder what separates the managers who struggle from the ones who thrive? The leaders who keep winning, even when the game changes?

In this episode I sit down with my good friend Drew Tutton, a powerhouse in the automotive, RV, and tractor industries. Drew has built a thriving business empire, but what makes him truly special isn’t just his success—it’s his approach to leadership.

And here’s the thing: the world is changing, business is changing, and if you’re still leading like it’s 2019… woof. We need to talk.

What We Dive Into:

  •  The hard lessons of leading through uncertainty
  •  Why some managers plateau—and how to break through the ceiling
  •  Emotional intelligence—how it affects your paycheck
  •  The one thing every great leader must do daily
  •  How coaching (not just training) transforms a business from the inside out

Drew doesn’t just talk leadership—he lives it. He shares his playbook for holding people accountable, keeping teams engaged, and why leaders need to stay “in the pocket.” Plus, we break down how emotional intelligence is the ultimate cheat code to making more money and leading with impact.

If you're a manager looking to step up, a business owner trying to build a winning culture, or someone who just wants to lead better in work and life—this episode is a must-listen.

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Jack Schneider: Why This Car Dealer Has Customers Raving – The Secret to 40+ Years of Success28 Feb 202500:37:28

In this episode, my guest is Jack Schneider—a legend in the independent pre-owned dealership space and a guy I’ve had the privilege of knowing for 25 years. Jack has built one of the top-performing dealerships in the country, and let me tell you, his approach is something every dealer, leader, and business owner needs to hear.

Jack doesn’t just run a dealership—he’s revolutionized the way customers buy cars. And if you think this is just another “dealer success story,” think again. Jack sold his entire operation, “retired,” and then came back stronger than ever—because he wasn’t done revolutionizing the customer experience. And let me tell you—his approach WORKS.

Here’s what we dig into:

  •  The one strategy that took his dealership to 40%+ closing rates on phone-ups
  •  How real-time market pricing changed the game (and why most dealers get it wrong)
  •  The non-negotiable leadership habit that keeps his team consistently at the top
  •  Why training managers—not just salespeople—is the secret weapon for long-term success
  •  How putting customers first (for real) leads to repeat business and lifelong referrals

Jack is proof that when you focus on process, transparency, and leadership, you don’t just sell cars—you build a brand that people trust. And in an industry that’s always evolving, his insights couldn’t be more relevant.

Hit play, take notes, and get ready to level up your dealership game.

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Frank Knox: The Leadership Formula That Drives Dealer Success21 Feb 202500:51:36

What separates the great leaders from the ones who just show up for a paycheck?

If you’ve ever wondered what makes an organization truly successful—beyond just the numbers—you’re in the right place.

Today, I’m sitting down with Frank Knox, VP of Unique Auto Sourcing, a man whose leadership journey started long before his corporate career ever took off. From growing up in St. Louis in a family that defined resilience to leading high-level teams at CarMax, Frank breaks down the real secrets behind courageous leadership, mentorship, and building a culture that actually works.

We dive deep into:

  •  The mentorship mindset that separates great leaders from the rest.
  •  The hard-hitting truth about ego—and how it holds you back.
  •  Why leadership isn’t about title, but about courageous ownership.
  •  The game-changing philosophy that made CarMax different—and how dealers can apply it today.
  •  How Unique Auto Sourcing is taking the mental fatigue off dealership leaders so they can focus on what really matters: their people.

This isn’t just another leadership talk. It’s a masterclass in leading with heart, learning from failure, and unlocking the potential in those around you.

So whether you’re running a dealership, leading a team, or just trying to level up in life—this episode is for YOU.

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Richie Bello: How To Build a High-Performance Dealership14 Feb 202500:47:51

Hey, Keep The Changers! Buckle up, because today's episode is a game-changer. I’m sitting down with a powerhouse in the automotive space, Richie Bello, a guy who's been shaking things up in sales, marketing, and dealership retention for years. Listen, this man has been podcasting since 2017—who was even doing that back then? That’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Richie is the CEO of Clickable, the founder of Shop Smart Autos, and a straight-up expert in leadership and digital transformation. Oh, and did I mention he’s a bestselling author too? Yeah, the man doesn’t slow down. And today, we’re tackling something that every dealership needs to hear: Why retention—not just sales—is the real key to long-term success.

What You’ll Get From This Episode:

  •  The #1 mistake dealerships make when promoting top salespeople to managers (and why it’s killing retention).
  •  Why great salespeople don’t always make great leaders—and how to fix it.
  •  The hard truth about why dealers are spending a fortune on marketing but losing customers faster than ever.
  •  How training the trainer could be the most powerful investment you make in your store.
  •  The simple but game-changing strategy that can turn first-time buyers into lifelong customers.

Richie drops some serious wisdom about leadership, customer loyalty, and why dealerships need to invest in their people before throwing more money at ads. If you want to learn how to reduce turnover, build a culture of leadership, and actually keep customers coming back, then this episode is for you.

So, are you ready to stop bleeding talent and start building a high-retention, high-performance team? Hit play now and let’s get into it!

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Kyle Disher: The Hard Truth About Leadership in the Car Business07 Feb 202500:34:27

Most managers think they’re leading. But are they really?

In this episode of Keep The Change, I sit down with Kyle Disher, the founder of Rev Dojo, to pull back the curtain on why so many managers struggle to build winning teams—and the small shifts that separate the great from the average.

Kyle’s been in the trenches. He started selling cars at 18 years old, got thrown into management at 19, and has spent the last two decades training some of the top-performing dealerships in the country. He knows exactly what it takes to turn struggling teams into powerhouses—and what holds so many managers back.

We cover:

  •  The #1 reason why some managers fail to lead their team effectively
  •  How Kyle went from being a terrible car salesman at 18 years old to leading one of the most successful training organizations in the business
  •  The dangerous trap that keeps sales teams stuck in mediocrity
  •  What dealerships can learn from offshore call centers (this one will surprise you!)
  •  Why sticking to a process beats raw talent every time

If you’re a GM, sales manager, or even an ambitious salesperson who’s tired of spinning your wheels, this episode is packed with game-changing insights you can start using today.

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Who’s Training Your Managers? (Why Your Dealership’s Success Depends on It)31 Jan 202500:21:05

Be honest—who’s actually training your managers?

It’s day two at NADA, and after countless conversations with dealers, one thing is crystal clear: everyone is looking for more efficiency. More efficiency in marketing, more efficiency in operations, more efficiency in training.

But here’s the problem: you can add 100 new tools to your dealership, but if you don’t activate your managers, nothing is going to change.

I’ve been in this industry long enough to see the same cycle repeat itself. We spend hundreds of thousands training salespeople, expecting them to be the ones who transform the business. But then what happens?

They go back to the floor, ready to implement what they learned… and their manager says, Nah, we don’t do it that way here.

Game over.

We’re stuck in a cycle of training salespeople while completely ignoring the real key to success—our managers. The ones responsible for activating the team, setting the culture, and making sure the training actually sticks.

And if this hits home for you, let’s talk. Email me at bart@bartnollenberger.com or DM me. No pitch, no fluff—just a real conversation about how to build the kind of dealership that actually wins. 

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Dr. Gary White: The Anchor That’s Stopping Your Growth—And How to Cut It Loose17 Jan 202500:40:59

What happens when a self-proclaimed “back-row sitter” decides to step into the spotlight? In this episode , I’m joined by Dr. Gary White, a man whose story is as raw as it is remarkable, a seasoned business health coach and Maxwell Leadership certified professional. From growing up in a family of tradespeople to becoming a transformational coach with Maxwell Leadership, Gary’s journey is one of resilience, revelation, and the relentless pursuit of impact.

But here’s the twist: Gary didn’t always see his own worth. Like so many of us, he wrestled with imposter syndrome, self-sacrifice, and the sneaky anchor of self-doubt. Until one pivotal moment—and one powerful lesson—changed everything.

We talk about the profound shifts that come when you stop undervaluing yourself and start investing in your growth. Gary unpacks how tools like DISC assessments and emotional intelligence aren’t just buzzwords—they’re game-changers for leaders who want to truly understand and connect with people. Along the way, you’ll hear stories that will make you laugh, lessons that will make you think, and insights that might just light a fire under you to take the next step in your own journey.

  • What does it take to go from being a spectator in life to owning your seat at the table?
  • How can understanding human behavior transform not only your leadership but your relationships?
  • And why is stepping into your value the ultimate act of service to others?

Gary doesn’t just tell his story—he invites you to see yourself in it. But to truly get the wisdom, the humor, and the heart of this conversation, you’ll have to press play.

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How Josh Potts Built a Record-Breaking Dealership Team10 Jan 202500:42:21

Hold onto your hats, folks, in this episode I’m chatting with none other than Josh Potts, the GM of Mac Haik Chevrolet in Houston, Texas. Now, before you go, “Oh great, another car guy,” let me tell you something: Josh isn’t just any car guy—he’s the car guy. With a track record of explosive growth and a knack for overcoming obstacles, Josh shares the blueprint behind his dealership’s meteoric rise to becoming one of the top Chevy stores in the country.

From nearly doubling service goals to creating an award-winning culture that pulls talent from across the industry, Josh doesn’t hold back on the secrets to his success.We’re diving into how he:

  • Built a sales machine that’s knocking on the door of selling 1,000 cars a month.
  • Transformed his service department into a million-dollar-per-month operation.
  • Created a culture so magnetic, top talent from competing brands is lining up to join his team.

He also dives deep into the personal side of leadership—balancing fierce ambition with authenticity and faith. Plus, hear the inspiring story behind his newest venture, Only God Gear, a faith-driven apparel line with a mission to make a difference.

 Hit play, grab your notebook, and get ready to rethink what’s possible. Oh, and if you don’t leave this episode feeling fired up to go crush your own goals… well, I’ll give you a refund on the free advice. 

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Self-Discipline: Are You Lying to Yourself About Your Goals?03 Jan 202500:28:58

Hey friends, welcome back to another epsiode, and let me tell you—this episode is one you’re gonna want to buckle up for. We're diving deep into something that’s been on my mind (and probably yours too): self-discipline. Yeah, I said it. The D-word.

But here’s the deal—it’s not about waking up at 4 AM and eating protein powder for breakfast. Nope. It’s about those tiny promises we make to ourselves every single day… and whether or not we actually keep them.

  • Ever said, “I’m hitting the gym tomorrow”… and then didn’t?
  • Or, “I’m sticking to this diet”... while holding a donut? 🍩
  • Or how about, “I’m calling those 20 clients today”… and somehow ended up reorganizing your sock drawer instead?

Yeah, we’ve all been there. And let me tell you—it’s not just about breaking promises. It’s about what those broken promises do to your self-image.

In this episode, we’ll chat about:

  • Why self-discipline isn’t punishment—it’s actually freedom.
  • How asking “Did I do my best today?” might be the most powerful question you ask yourself.
  • The sneaky little ways habits become either your greatest ally… or your biggest enemy.

Plus, I’m sharing insights from 75 Hard, lessons from John Maxwell, and a little real talk about how discipline builds the bridge between good intentions and actual results.

This isn’t a lecture—it’s a conversation. And if you’ve ever found yourself saying, “This year will be different,” then friend, this episode is for YOU.

So hit play, lean in, and let’s figure out how to stop lying to ourselves about our goals—and start showing up like the leaders we know we can be.

👉 Let me know your biggest takeaway—I’d love to hear from you.

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Reflect, Recharge, and Reignite28 Dec 202400:29:14

Hey there, keep the changers! Welcome to the final Keep the Change episode of 2024. Man, can you believe we’re already here? It feels like this year flew by, and now we’re staring straight into 2025.

Before we jump into the new year—I wanted to hit pause with you. You know, this time of year always makes me stop and ask myself some big questions. Not just about goals and plans (yeah, I’ve got those too), but about me—who I am as a leader, a husband, a friend...a human.

Tony Robbins says, “The quality of your life is determined by the quality of your questions.” And I believe that with everything in me. So today, I’m sharing some of the questions I’ve been asking myself lately. They’re simple, but man, they pack a punch if you lean into them.

And yeah, we’ll get real about faith too—because for me, that’s been such a big part of my growth this year. If that’s not your thing, that’s totally okay. But if it is—or if you’re even just a little curious—stick with me.

Here’s the thing: leadership isn’t about being the smartest person in the room. It’s about being real. Being present. Asking good questions and listening—really listening—to the answers.

So grab your coffee, take a breath, and let’s unpack this together. I’m sharing some of the questions that have made the biggest difference for me this year, and I hope they’ll do the same for you.

Oh—and if something I said today hits home, shoot me an email at bartn17@gmail.com. I’d love to hear your thoughts, your reflections, or just how you’re doing as we head into the new year.

Alright, let’s dive in. Here’s to closing out 2024 strong and stepping into 2025 with intention, purpose, and a whole lot of heart.

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Bruce Miller: The All Gas, No Brakes Mentality13 Dec 202400:51:29

Alright, keep the changers, let me just say… you’re going to want to buckle up for this one because this episode of Keep the Change is nothing short of legendary. And by “legendary,” I mean you’ll laugh, you’ll cry, and you might just rethink how you’re showing up in your life and leadership.

This week, I’m sitting down with Bruce Miller—someone who could write the book on perseverance (seriously). If you don’t know Bruce, here’s the quick 411: Bruce isn’t just your average guest. Nope. He’s a leader, a fighter, a human bulldozer of positivity, and someone who’s lived through challenges most of us can’t even imagine. We’re talking overcoming a tough upbringing, crushing it in the car biz, and leading teams with a perfect balance of "drill sergeant meets life coach." Oh, and did I mention? He’s been living with terminal cancer for over a decade and STILL manages to attack life with the energy of a thousand Red Bulls.

And let me tell you, his “all gas, no brakes” mindset is going to leave you inspired, fired up, and maybe questioning if you’ve been hitting snooze on your potential.

Because if there’s one thing Bruce reminds us, it’s this: life’s challenges don’t define us—how we rise above them does.

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Joe Trasser: The Hard Truth About Leadership06 Dec 202400:36:23

Let me ask you something. Have you ever felt like there’s a gap between who you want to be as a leader and what you’re actually doing day-to-day? Or maybe you’re just looking for ways to connect more deeply with the people you lead—at work, in life, or anywhere in between?

If that’s you, this episode is exactly what you need.

I sat down with my buddy Joe Trasser, and let me tell you, this guy has a perspective that will challenge and inspire you. Joe runs Arizona BioCleaning, dealing with the kind of work most of us never think about—cleaning up after crime scenes, hoarding situations, and even drug remediation. It’s heavy stuff, but here’s the thing: Joe isn’t just cleaning spaces; he’s helping people rebuild their lives.

In this episode, we didn’t just talk about business; we got real about leadership—what it means to truly show up for your people. Joe shared stories that had me nodding along like, "Yep, I’ve been there," and insights that’ll make you rethink how you lead, whether you’re running a business, a team, or even your own household.

Here’s why you’ll love this one:

  • Joe breaks down how authenticity is the secret sauce for building trust and connection. (Seriously, this is a game-changer.)
  • We talk about the power of knowing your team’s strengths—and their struggles. Because leadership isn’t just about getting results; it’s about helping people thrive.
  • And if you’ve ever wondered how the lessons from recovery translate to leadership, this episode will blow your mind.

This isn’t just a “business talk”—it’s a conversation about being human. And I think that’s why it hit me so hard. It’s raw, it’s relatable, and it’ll leave you with the kind of takeaways you can actually use, starting today.

So, here’s the deal: if you care about making a real difference in the lives of the people you lead—and yeah, in your own life too—then do yourself a favor and listen to this one. I promise, you’ll walk away feeling inspired, equipped, and ready to lead with more heart.

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How to Develop a Winning Dealership Team22 Nov 202400:34:53

First off, can I just say THANK YOU for hanging in there with me? This one’s dropping a little late (life threw a curveball at my family), but guess what? We’re back, we’re blessed, and we’re rolling forward. 

Now, this episode? it’s a special one. I’m diving into a topic that I KNOW will change the game for your dealership: developing your people. Let’s be real—managing tasks is easy, but creating future leaders? THAT’S where the magic happens. And I’m here to tell you, it’s the secret sauce to building a team that sticks, thrives, and crushes the competition.

I’ll break down John Maxwell’s Five Levels of Leadership—yep, we’re revisiting the classics, but with some fresh, real-world dealership wisdom you can use TODAY. 

And guess what? It’s not rocket science. I’ll show you how ONE simple habit—yep, just one—can take your leadership and your dealership to the next level. Plus, I’ve got some fun stories, practical tips, and my favorite strategies to help YOU make this shift without losing your mind (or your weekends).

Oh, and because I love my podcast family, I’m offering a 15-minute complimentary coaching session to the first 15 listeners who reach out. Seriously, no catch—just me, you, and a Zoom link talking about how to make your leadership unstoppable.

So, grab your coffee and let’s jump in. This one’s all about creating the kind of culture where your team wants to stay, grow, and WIN.

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Mulenga Chella: Leadership Lessons from the Depths of Adversity15 Nov 202400:50:21

What if the greatest tests of your life were the very thing preparing you for an extraordinary purpose?

In this episode of Keep the Change, I sit down with someone whose story embodies resilience, faith, and the transformative power of leadership. Pastor Mulenga Chella has walked a journey that most of us can’t even begin to imagine—wrongfully imprisoned in a foreign country, enduring unthinkable conditions, and yet choosing forgiveness over bitterness.

Here’s what struck me: Pastor Chella didn’t just survive. He thrived. He turned his darkest moments into a calling to serve others, from rescuing orphans to feeding hundreds of children daily. This isn’t just a story about faith—it’s a masterclass in leadership, grace, and finding significance beyond success.

We dig into:

  • How forgiveness unlocked the door to his freedom—literally.
  • Why true leadership is about lifting others, even in the toughest circumstances.
  • The Bible verse that kept him grounded when the world felt like it was falling apart.
  • How he went from prison to building a ministry that transforms lives daily.

And here’s the part that floored me: Pastor Chella took the very person responsible for his imprisonment—the man who betrayed him—and nursed him back to health. That choice of love over anger didn’t just change one life—it changed many.

This isn’t just a conversation; it’s an experience. If you’ve ever wondered how to find purpose in pain or how to lead with integrity when everything seems stacked against you, this episode is for you.

To my long-time Keep the Change family—this one will stay with you long after the final words. Let it challenge you. Let it inspire you. And most of all, let it remind you of what’s possible when we lean into faith and lead with love.

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Mike Luner: Building a Winning Dealership Culture through Leadership 01 Nov 202400:37:32

Hey, Keep The Changers! After a brief break from guests, we’re diving back in with someone who’s as authentic as it gets when it comes to leadership in the dealership world. In today’s episode, I sit down with my longtime friend, Mike Luner—a guy whose journey through the automotive industry has been nothing short of inspiring.

Imagine stepping into a dealership where leadership isn’t just about numbers or authority, but about building trust, guiding people with patience, and creating an environment where everyone feels valued. Mike’s done it all—from his days as a GM in the Bay Area to becoming a partner at a Toyota dealership in Missouri. And he’s been through it all, too—the highs, the lows, and those defining moments that truly shape a leader.

We dig deep into the heart of Mike’s leadership philosophy—how he keeps his team motivated, why patience and consistency matter, and his “attitude is everything” approach to leading through any challenge. We even talk about how our industry’s wild past shaped us into the leaders we are today. For Mike, it’s about so much more than the title; it’s about giving his people the tools to thrive—even if it means they go on to lead their own stores.

So, whether you’re in the automotive world or just looking to level up your leadership game, this episode will have you rethinking what it really takes to lead. It’s about patience, trust, and a whole lot of heart. And as someone who’s walked alongside Mike on this journey, I can tell you, there’s wisdom here you don’t want to miss.

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Trevor Hult: Are You Truly Living as Your Authentic Self?25 Oct 202400:49:14

Alright, keep-the-changers, buckle up, because this week, we're re-running one of the most powerful conversations I’ve had here on Keep the Change. Ever wondered why some people seem to radiate strength, no matter what life throws their way? That's Trevor Hult for you – a guy who's mastered the art of living with authenticity, resilience, and heart.

In this episode, Trevor and I dive deep into his story – from facing bullies to becoming a speaker, coach, and mentor through Core Trainings, a heart-centered leadership program he co-founded with his mom. His journey is a raw, no-holds-barred look at what it means to be your truest self. And trust me, every word packs a punch.

Trevor shares how “your struggles aren’t your burden; they’re your gift,” and he’ll challenge you to look at fear in a whole new way. Fear, as he puts it, is a "disguised magnet" pulling you toward your greatest potential. It’s real talk about building self-confidence, sticking to your small promises, and living in a way that makes you stand taller every day.

If you’ve heard this episode before, let it hit you with fresh ears. Trevor’s words are a reminder that growth is always ongoing, and this conversation – well, it’s timeless. So grab a coffee, settle in, and let’s dive back into the incredible journey of resilience with Trevor Hult.

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How Active Coaching is Critical to Your Dealership's Success18 Oct 202400:36:34

Hey, keep-the-changers, Bart here, and welcome back to another episode. Today I’m diving deep today into something that's close to my heart and crucial for all of us in leadership—coaching. Now, I know we’ve talked about it before, but this time we’re pulling back the curtain even further. Why? Because coaching is the game-changer most dealerships are missing.

You see, I’ve been in countless dealerships, and there’s a trend that keeps showing up—leaders who work hard, but aren’t seeing the results they want. And it’s not because they’re doing anything wrong. In fact, these leaders are rock stars at closing deals, putting together sales where others might struggle. But here’s the catch: if we’re only focusing on numbers, we’re missing the bigger picture.

This week, it’s all about how we can move beyond the tactical and into the transformative. What does it really mean to develop your people? How can we shift our mindset, not just as managers, but as true activators? I’m pulling lessons from John Maxwell’s Five Levels of Leadership and diving into how changing our thinking changes everything—including your bottom line.

We’ll also dig into what it means to lead with joy. Not that “skipping through the daisies” kind of joy, but real, deep satisfaction that radiates from your team to your customers. And here’s the kicker—when your team is in joy, everything changes. The customer experience improves, results follow, and you create something truly special in your dealership.

So if you're ready to elevate your leadership game, tune in. We’re going to talk about coaching tactics that actually work, how to shift your mindset, and most importantly, how to help your team believe in themselves so they can crush it on the floor and beyond.

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The Secret to Unlocking Your Team’s Peak Performance11 Oct 202400:33:57

Hey there, keep-the-changers! I’m excited to dive into something that’s been a game changer (actually, a life changer) for me and the businesses I’ve been working with over the past few years. Since the world shifted in 2020, I've been rethinking the way I coach and lead teams. Group coaching was good, but it was the one-on-one coaching that really started to change the game for my clients—and for me personally.

In this episode, I’m talking about what truly elevates team performance, especially in a tough market. You know, I’ve always said it’s not just about getting the numbers—it’s about developing people. So, we’re getting into the nitty-gritty of how one-on-one coaching, setting clear expectations, and building accountability can lead to results that last. I’ll even share insights from Gallup’s research that might make you rethink how you manage your people.

But here’s the kicker: it's not about being a boss. It’s about becoming an activator—someone who inspires, listens, and asks the right questions to bring out the best in others. Whether you’re running a dealership, leading a team, or just wanting to grow as a leader, I think you’re going to find some powerful takeaways here.

Gone are the days of the old-school boss. Today’s workforce—especially millennials—are asking for more. They want a leader who provides clear expectations, ongoing feedback, and a sense of purpose. It’s time to shake things up and become the leader who activates their team to reach new heights.

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Michael Cirillo: Characteristics of High-Performance Dealerships in a Real Volatile Market04 Oct 202400:33:36

Hey keep-the-changers, I’m absolutely fired up about today’s episode! I’ve got my good friend and industry powerhouse, Michael Cirillo, CEO of FlexDealer, back on the show, and we’re diving deep into something every dealership leader needs to hear: the secret sauce behind high-performance teams, especially in today’s rollercoaster market. 

Now, Michael and I go way back—he was actually the first guest on my podcast—In this episode, we get real about leadership in the dealership, pulling back the curtain on what sets high-performing teams apart in today’s unpredictable market.

Michael and I dive deep into the core traits that successful dealerships share: anticipatory communication (yes, we break down what that means in real terms), vulnerability (and why the hustle culture is dead), and of course, the one word that makes or breaks a team—accountability. We’ve seen it all in our combined years in the industry, and let me tell you, the dealerships that win are the ones that aren’t afraid to get messy, be human, and hold themselves and their teams accountable.

There’s so much we could unpack in this episode, but here’s what I love about this chat: we’re not talking fluff. This is raw, actionable stuff that Michael has seen work in dealerships all over the world—whether in the U.S., Europe, or Canada. It’s universal, no-nonsense leadership that will have you rethinking how you run your team and grow your business.

So, here’s my challenge for you: Are you leading from a place of connection, growth, and accountability? Or are you just getting by, hoping things work themselves out? This conversation will make you think—about your team, your business, and yourself.

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The Secret to Personal Growth27 Sep 202400:29:47

Alright, keep-the-changers, this one’s for you. We’re diving into something that’s been on my mind, and I think it’s about to hit home for you too. Today, I’m pulling back the curtain on the real secret sauce to achieving everything you’ve ever wanted – personal growth and goal setting.

Now, I know you've heard about goals and growth before. Maybe you've even tried it a few times, but let's be real – how many of us are truly committing to that process? In this episode, I’ll walk you through the principles that have shaped my life and career, like the legendary advice from Brian Tracy’s "Eat That Frog" and John Maxwell's "Developing the Leader Within You 2.0." And if you've ever wondered how the top leaders, salespeople, or even the most successful business owners stay ahead of the game, this is it.

We'll be diving deep into why writing your goals down is more than just a task – it’s the difference between dreaming and achieving. I’m talking about the kind of clarity that turns wishes into reality. And listen, I’m not just handing you theory here. I’m giving you the exact exercises that I use, that my coaching clients use, and that have led to real, tangible results.

This episode isn't about hype – it’s about finding that edge, that one piece of the puzzle that can change everything. If you’re ready to stop drifting and start leading, you’re in the right place. Join me as we unpack the steps to not just keep the change but to multiply it.

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What’s Your Self-Discipline Mountain?20 Sep 202400:25:19

 Hey, Keep the Changers! I’ve got something close to my heart to share with you in this episode. You know, after over two years of Keep the Change, I’ve been reflecting on the journey we’ve been on together. I feel like it’s time to shift gears slightly—not a full detour, but more of a refined focus that feels right in my bones. 

I’ve been fortunate to work with businesses, ministries like Celebrate Recovery, and within my bootcamps, helping individuals discover and strengthen their leadership abilities. In today’s episode, we’re diving deep into one of the most vital aspects of leadership: self-discipline. This isn’t just about what you do when people are watching; it’s about the work you put in when nobody is around.

 What We Discuss In This Episode:

 In this episode, I’m diving into what I believe is the most important leadership principle: self-discipline. Yep, that’s right—discipline and consistency. It’s the not-so-glamorous stuff that separates those who reach the top from those who don’t. I talk about some hard-earned lessons on discipline from my own life, including my 39 years of sobriety and the work I’ve done with businesses and ministries.

 Here’s the deal: If you want to achieve greatness, whether in business or life, you need to get clear on what you want, why you want it, and how you’re going to get there. I’m laying it all out in this episode—practical tips, and some tough love that’ll get you fired up to take action. 

Here’s something for you to reflect on after this episode: Which self-discipline mountain consistently gives you the most difficulty? Is it making cold calls, managing time, or sticking to a workout routine? Whatever it is, I challenge you to dive deep and ask yourself why—five times, to get to the root of the issue. Once you understand your "why," you can create a strategy to conquer it.

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Drew Tutton: From Cleaning Buildings to Owning a Business Empire06 Sep 202400:53:39

Have you ever wondered what it takes to go from cleaning buildings at night to owning multiple dealerships and thriving businesses? How do you maintain a strong faith, a successful family, and lead with relentless purpose? What separates good leaders from great ones, and how can you build a culture that people never want to leave? In this episode, I sit down with Drew Tutton, who shares his incredible story of resilience, faith, and leadership that will inspire anyone aiming to achieve more, both personally and professionally.

Drew Tutton is the owner of the Tutton Group, which includes several high-performing Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealerships, RV stores, and even a restaurant. With over eight dealerships under his belt and a thriving entrepreneurial spirit, Drew has become a respected figure in both the automotive and RV industries. His leadership style is deeply rooted in faith, compassion, and a work ethic forged from challenging beginnings. His journey from humble origins to leading multiple successful businesses is a testament to his relentless pursuit of excellence and servant leadership.

 What We Discuss In This Episode:
 
You’ll hear how Drew believes true influence is earned by serving others and how faith and family guide every decision he makes. We also get into what it takes to create a company culture that people never want to leave—hint: it’s more than just good business, it’s about developing strong character and lifting others up.

And let’s be real, this is Drew Tutton, so you know there’s going to be some powerful moments of vulnerability and truth. He’s the kind of guy who doesn’t shy away from talking about his failures, his faith, and the mentors who helped him along the way. If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to grow as a leader and build a legacy that goes beyond business, this conversation is for you.

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Chad Staples: How to Become the Ideal Leader for Your Dealership30 Aug 202400:51:10

Hey there, Keep the Changers! Today I've got a truly special episode for you today. You know, I've had the privilege of meeting some incredible leaders throughout my career, but every now and then, someone comes along who really makes you sit back and think. That someone is Chad Staples, a guy who’s not just making waves in the automotive industry but also living out the principles that make a real difference in life.

In this episode, Chad and I dive deep—deeper than we usually go—into what it really means to be a leader today. We’re not talking about the old-school, iron-fist management style that some of us grew up with. Nope, we’re digging into the heart of leadership, where discipline meets empathy, and where faith guides every decision.

Chad opens up about his journey, from the days of grinding it out in dealerships to starting Elevation Dealer Services, and how his faith and commitment to discipline shaped his path. We talk about the power of emotional intelligence in the workplace, the role of discipline in personal growth, and what it means to truly lead by example—both at home and in business.

Chad’s honesty and vulnerability will challenge you, inspire you, and hopefully, leave you with some nuggets of wisdom to apply in your own life. Whether you're in the automotive industry or simply striving to be a better leader in your own life, this episode provides actionable insights and inspiration. Tune in to hear Chad’s story, learn from his experiences, and discover how you can apply these principles to your own journey.

Key Takeaways:

  • The shift from old-school management to empathetic leadership.
  • The critical role of discipline in achieving success.
  • How faith can be a guiding force in both life and business.
  • The impact of emotional intelligence on building strong teams and relationships.

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