My guest is Catherine Liu, professor of film and media studies at UC Irvine. She is the author of 'Virtue Hoarders: the Case Against the Professional Managerial Class'. We discuss the origin of trauma studies, self branding on social media and the ideology of the professional class. Liu has an unwavering commitment to historical materialism and a fierce critique of elitist academies. She explores the intense moralism of our times as it relates to the Freudian super-ego.

My guest is Brace Belden, an organizer, an infamous shitposter and co-host of the TrueAnon podcast. I’ve spent the last few years interviewing young people who make radical posts online and later find their way into real world politics. Irony and humor play a huge role in this process. For the first episode, I wanted to talk to one of my favorite posters who has also lived his politics in the real world. https://www.patreon.com/joshuacitarella

Get the book: https://darkforest.metalabel.com/dfa2 Yancey and I visit Montez Press Radio in downtown NYC to discuss The Dark Forest Anthology of the Internet. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/montezpressradio https://www.instagram.com/ystrickler https://twitter.com/ystrickler https://www.instagram.com/metalabel__/ https://twitter.com/metalabel_

Austin Robey, co-founder of Metalabel, joins me to discuss alternative models for the internet. We explore “Ampled”, a cooperative platform for musicians that existed from 2018-2023 and theorize about the next generation of platforms. Follow: https://twitter.com/austinrobey_
https://www.instagram.com/michaelcoors/ https://twitter.com/metalabel_ https://www.instagram.com/metalabel__/ Read: https://austinrobey.xyz/

Get the game: https://joshuacitarella.metalabel.com/class-fantasy Class Fantasy is an action RPG card game that pairs fantasy character classes with political ideologies. Your goal is to defeat other players in battle and achieve utopia. Inspired by games like Dungeons & Dragons, Magic: The Gathering and World of Warcraft, Class Fantasy explores the essential role playing and world building process that links the game space and the real world. Finally, a game that unites the whole political spectrum (and family) by forcing them into irreconcilable conflict.

Exploring the political arc of the social media decade. Get the books: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/vincent-bevins/if-we-burn/9781541788985/?lens=publicaffairs https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374610326/doppelganger Links: https://youtu.be/6FCYcfiVqYQ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/05/leftwing-vulkan-group-claim-responsibility-tesla-factory-pylon-arson-attack-berlin https://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/the-anarcho-liberal/ https://www.youtube.com/live/cI7iyo2wv18?si=ilEl4ylOge0bJ8kf

Simon Denny's Metaverse Landscapes unpack historical resonances between territory, abstraction and financialization. Links: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/arts/design/simon-denny-art-computers-gaming-review-musk-grimes.html https://www.instagram.com/sden023/ https://www.instagram.com/juliaxgulia/ https://www.instagram.com/joshuacitarella/ https://www.instagram.com/dunkunsthalle/ https://www.instagram.com/petzelgallery/ https://www.instagram.com/sorry_press/ https://www.sorry-press.com/landscapes https://dunkunsthalle.substack.com/p/simon-denny-exhibition-read-write https://www.petzel.com/exhibitions/simon-denny5 https://www.petzel.com/exhibitions/multi-user-dungeon-mud

Artist Paige K.B. calls into the stream to discuss three major exhibitions: “Cute” at Somerset House in London, “Poetics of Encryption” at KW Institute of Contemporary Art in Berlin, and Simon Denny’s shows in New York. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/guiltgroupe/ Exhibitions: https://www.somersethouse.org.uk/whats-on/cute https://poeticsofencryption.kw-berlin.de/src/html/Exibition.html https://www.petzel.com/exhibitions/simon-denny5 https://www.petzel.com/exhibitions/multi-user-dungeon-mud https://dunkunsthalle.substack.com/p/simon-denny-exhibition-read-write

My guest is a 20 year old Marxist. At age 12, he began exploring niche circles of Tumblr, YouTube and Wikipedia.

@dnlklr joins me to discuss the For-You-Pagification of the internet, hyper polarization online, network states, AI vs. climate and building new institutions. https://twitter.com/DnlKlr 
https://www.instagram.com/dnlklr https://twitter.com/__vaporware__

My guest ran a collaborative role-playing game that turned political meme accounts on Instagram into an MMO for fantasy nation-states.

Her new book is out now from MacMillan Press: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250269621/dirtbag Amber A'Lee Frost is a writer and co-host of Chapo Trap House. Find her writing in Jacobin Magazine, Catalyst, Damage Magazine, The Baffler, American Affairs and many others. IG: https://instagram.com/amberaleefrost

Max Read joins me to discuss "the Zynternet", a newly emergent youth subculture online. We explore the For-You-Pagification of social media, the revenge of the normies and the future of online subcultures. Follow: https://maxread.substack.com/

Philosopher of technology, Benjamin Bratton, joins me to discuss AI and planetary scale computation. Read his work and learn more about Antikythera in the links below: twitter.com/bratton antikythera.org/ mitpress.mit.edu/9780262029575/the-stack/ www.versobooks.com/products/2749-t…nge-of-the-real Trust: Inhumanism Rising - Benjamin Bratton mitpress.mit.edu/9781913029999/ma…on-is-not-final/

Philosopher of technology, Benjamin Bratton, joins me to discuss AI, terraforming, geopolitics and planetary scale computation. Read his work and learn more about Antikythera in the links below: https://twitter.com/bratton https://antikythera.org/ https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262029575/the-stack/ https://www.versobooks.com/products/2749-the-revenge-of-the-real Trust: Inhumanism Rising - Benjamin Bratton https://mitpress.mit.edu/9781913029999/machine-decision-is-not-final/ https://autocatallaxy.com/

My guest is a 22 year old from the Middle East. She has spent the last few years immersed in political meme culture and radical content online.

Welcome to StateBook. A public option for social media. Read the full essay: https://joshuacitarella.substack.com/p/platform-wars-part-4-a-public-option

If you’re just joining us, check out The Platform Wars part 1 & part 2. https://joshuacitarella.substack.com/p/platform-wars-part-3-tiktok-and-geopolitics https://www.patreon.com/posts/platform-wars-3-87023598

Dianna visits the podcasts to discuss trend cycles, faith, mythology and artistic practice. Hear about her upcoming performances: https://diannaluciadragonetti.substack.com/ Send professional inquiries: info-[at]-saras.world

My guest is a 19 year old left-wing Islamic nationalist from Tennessee. His account attracted lots of attention and controversy online. **recorded: Dec 12, 2020**

This is an intermediate guide to weight lifting. https://open.substack.com/pub/joshuacitarella/p/fitness-program-and-syllabus-summer https://www.patreon.com/posts/fitness-program-85642009

We’re at an inflection point for social media. Here’s what happens next: https://joshuacitarella.substack.com/p/the-platform-wars https://www.patreon.com/posts/platform-wars-82710977

Yancey joins me to discuss the “Dark Forests” of the internet. We explore new, post-platform guilds and digital native institutions for the 21st century. Browse the links below for his excellent writing on these topics: Follow: https://twitter.com/ystrickler https://twitter.com/metalabel_xyz https://www.instagram.com/metalabel_xyz/ Read: https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-internet-7dc3e68a7cb1 https://www.metalabel.xyz/magazine/features/after-the-creator-economy-the-zine https://www.metalabel.xyz/ https://www.newcreativeera.com/ https://www.documentjournal.com/2021/01/the-internet-didnt-kill-counterculture-you-just-wont-find-it-on-instagram/

This week’s guest is a 17 year old Left Communist from the Bay Area. He was a right-wing troll at age 13. We explore niche political subcultures, generational posting styles and the value of electoral politics.

My guest is a 16 year old council communist. He spent ages 12 to 14 fully immersed in conservative content on YouTube. Today his account is no longer active. **recorded: Oct 13, 2020**

Taylor joins me to discuss the creator economy, mommy bloggers, personal brands, beauty tutorials on youtube, and gamergate. Check out her new book: Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence and Power on the Internet. Pre-order: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Extremely-Online/Taylor-Lorenz/9781982146863?fbclid=PAAabwR0m9uZEWA8QezCgGDgtvaoaANakECbyFpjQw0RtCpP1PNhPmXbTbMcU_aem_th_AZVRfoAGgDDaY6wUvMUNOEolpZ0uvZntAgBVoPf0FPCj8Wqg6HnkWXdg-okCBU2Jqe4 IG: https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz/

My guest is a 16 year old anarcho-capitalist. He is a long time user on Instagram and highly influential in niche corners of the internet. **recorded: May, 2020**

From Myspace “Top 8” to VR glasses (less powerful than ideology), Lil Internet joins me to discuss how new technologies are shaping creative life in the 21st century. This episode is part of a series of one-on-one conversations with Channel creators. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/lilinternet/ https://twitter.com/lilinternet https://www.instagram.com/newmodels_io/ https://twitter.com/NEWMODELS_IO newmodels.io/ channel.xyz/

Nadim Samman, curator at KW Institute for Contemporary Art in Berlin, joins me to discuss his new book, Poetics of Encryption: Art and the Technocene. get the book: https://www.hatjecantz.de/nadim-samman-8254-1.html socials: https://www.instagram.com/nadim.samman/ https://www.instagram.com/kwinstitutefcontemporaryart/

Catherine Liu, professor of film and media studies at UC Irvine, visits the podcast to discuss Phillip Guston, the PMC and cultural institutions. She is the author of Virtue Hoarders (2021). https://cliuanon.substack.com/ https://twitter.com/bureaucatliu https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/virtue-hoarders

My guest is a 20 year old Left Communist. He began by exploring 4chan, /leftypol/ and kik messenger. In 2019, he joined an IRL political organization. We discuss Bookchinites, leftcom killing fields, proletarian discontent, shitposting and animation. **recorded: July 2, 2020**

All the "wellness" products Americans love to buy are sold on both Infowars and Goop: https://qz.com/1010684/all-the-wellness-products-american-love-to-buy-are-sold-on-both-infowars-and-goop its real folks Auto-Experiment: Hyper-Masculinity: https://www.patreon.com/posts/auto-experiment-55888347

My guest is a 22 year old reactionary who is "extremely-online". He was a Bernie supporter in 2016 and self educated on sites like 4chan, Instagram and Youtube. We discuss authoritarianism, libertarianism, the enlightenment, neoreactionary theory, Hindutva, vegetarianism and shitposting. **recorded: August 5, 2020**

CB joins me to discuss how new technologies and ideologies are shaping the public sphere in the 21st century. This episode is part of a series of one-on-one conversations with Channel creators. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/cbcb2000 https://twitter.com/cbcb2000 https://www.instagram.com/newmodels_io https://twitter.com/newmodels_io https://newmodels.io/ www.channel.xyz/

Alex Hochuli is a co-host of the Aufhebunga Bunga podcast and a co-author of "The End of the End of History: Politics in the 21st Century". He joins me to discuss universalisms, organization and the difficult way forward. Follow: https://x.com/bungacast https://x.com/Alex__1789

I wrote the unthinkable (but true) take for the new issue of Document Journal. Read the piece online alongside a beautiful series of photographs by Bobby Doherty. https://www.documentjournal.com/2022/12/raw-eggs-pink-pills-and-embodied-identity-online-communities-create-their-own-proof-in-a-vacuum-of-truth/

My guest is a 16 year old Anarcho-Communist who was an Eco-Fascist in 2019. “R” is a co-admin on a popular leftwing meme account. The week before recording this episode she attended a Black Lives Matter protest in a nearby major city. We discuss neoliberalism, classical liberalism, esotericism, schizoposting, e-boys, accelerationism and mental health. **recorded: June 9, 2020**

People's Republic of Walmart co-author Leigh Phillips joins me to discuss eco-austerity, neo-malthusianism, degrowth, socially necessary atmospheric carbon and the on going debate around economic planning vs. neoliberalism. Follow on socials: https://twitter.com/Leigh_Phillips Get the books: https://www.versobooks.com/books/2822-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/zer0-books/our-books/austerity-ecology-collapse-porn-addicts

New Models co-hosts Carly and Julian join artist & consultant Dena Yago (formerly K-HOLE) and Josh for a real-talk-debrief post panel discussions at Bundeskunsthalle. We unpack the the knock-on effects of “anti-gatekeeping”, speculative near-future museum defense strategies, and the alt paths of young artists. This is a cross over episode with New Models. Subscribe at: https://www.patreon.com/newmodels New Models 
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 “Content Industrial Complex,” e-flux #89 (2018)
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Spawning.ai, 20th century bohemianism, the ‘brahmin left’ vs. the ‘merchant right’. Join us to discuss how new technologies and class interests are shaping creative practice in 21st century. This episode is part of a new series of one-on-one conversations with Channel creators. Follow: https://twitter.com/matdryhurst https://www.instagram.com/matdryhurst/ https://twitter.com/hollyherndon https://www.instagram.com/holly_herndon/ https://twitter.com/spawning_ https://twitter.com/hollyplus_ https://twitter.com/channel https://www.channel.xyz/

Jen Pan, former host of the Jacobin Show, joins me to discuss YouTube political messaging, elite activist language and what social democracy can do for art. Stay tuned for her forthcoming book from Verso. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JacobinMag Read: https://jacobin.com/

Crossover episode with New Models! Jump into a freestyle audit of the 2022 cultural ecosystem. We discuss how the creative economy, both on and off-platform, is evolving post-lockdown. Subscribe: https://www.patreon.com/newmodels Follow: https://www.instagram.com/newmodels_io/
 Follow: https://www.instagram.com/rachelrossin/ More: https://rossin.co/ New Models, along with Joshua Citarella and Interdependence (Mat Dryhurst & Holly Herndon), is part of the channel.xyz network.

Former basement dwellers discuss the shifting landscape of today’s social media platforms. We recap the art of posting (RIP) and how politics transformed pop culture, comedy and entertainment. Check out episode 1 of Jack's brand new podcast: Otherworld Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/otherworld/id1647611444 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1w0bwmnSZQLnMbVtr2RUg1?si=28b8c88acc5046b2 Follow: https://twitter.com/jackdwagner https://www.instagram.com/versace_tamagotchi/

A unique look into online memetic subcultures where Gen Z teens explore radical politics like eco-extremism, neoreaction, anarcho-primitivism, transhumanism, anarcho-capitalism, the alt-right, the post-left, egoism and cyber-nihilism.

From Anarcho-primitivist Instagram to local hardcore vegan straight edge. My guest talks eco-extremism, anti-work, climate collapse and the nihilism of extremely online communities.

Otherworld presents Deep Research. This week, we’re covering “Tartaria”. Tartaria is a conspiracy theory that suggests the existence of a vast, advanced civilization that supposedly existed in ancient times but has been intentionally erased from historical records. Proponents of this theory often claim that Tartaria was a highly developed and technologically advanced empire with a global influence, surpassing the conventional understanding of history. They argue that evidence of Tartaria's existence is hidden or manipulated by a secretive global elite. The conspiracy theory often incorporates a variety of historical events, architectural anomalies, and symbols to support its narrative.Research links: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/comments/wggxfa/itsmorganfr_on_tiktok_explaining_tartaria/ https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp78-02771r000200090002-6 https://www.youtube.com/@jonlevichannel https://www.youtube.com/@MindUnveiled https://www.reddit.com/r/tartarianarchitecture/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/ https://www.tiktok.com/@watch_the_rabbit_hole/video/7197053113310661890?lang=en https://www.tiktok.com/@auntytateana2/video/7161746777069145350?lang=en https://youtu.be/4N-GDmlDMts?si=LH4ot7FLSsgzdd3Y https://www.tiktok.com/@zacharydenman/video/7193705054363258117?lang=en https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-04-27/inside-architecture-s-wildest-conspiracy-theory https://youtu.be/dtU_M0Sjd9Y?si=LOds3f6Nj-KXktMQ&t=332 Follow: https://www.instagram.com/otherworldpod/?hl=enhttps://www.patreon.com/Otherworld

Yung Chomsky joins me to talk physical fitness and left wing politics. We discuss the strategic importance of contested spaces online and why we shouldn’t cede this valuable territory to the right. https://twitter.com/yungchomsky https://www.instagram.com/yungchomsky/ https://soundcloud.com/yung-chomsky https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod

I speak with Aidan Walker, a writer at KnowYourMeme.com, for the 67th issue of Meme Insider. Meme Insider #67
: https://memeinsider.com/releases/whitney-chewston Follow Aidan’s work: 
https://knowyourmeme.com/news/staff/aidan-walker https://wordways.us
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What will the declining middle class mean for U.S. party affiliations in the near future? I speak with YouTuber and political commentator J.J. McCullough about his recent column in The Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/09/are-millennial-leftists-aging-into-right-wingers/ https://www.youtube.com/c/JJMcCullough https://twitter.com/jj_mccullough https://www.patreon.com/jjmccullough/posts https://www.instagram.com/jjmccullough/

Audio from the live event: June 6th 2022 at New Museum in NYC. Buy the book (direct link):
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