EST Gee sits down with Loon on It’s Up There ahead of BIGGER THAN THE DEVIL for a wide-ranging conversation about Lil Durk’s federal case, Pooh Shiesty, Yo Gotti and CMG, Future, his current Interscope situation, almost dying at James Harden’s house, street rap, money, grief and what comes next in his career. Loon and EST Gee get into Lil Durk’s case, Gee’s relationship with Durk and where his head is as the trial reaches a critical stage. Pooh Shiesty also becomes part of the conversation as Gee speaks on his relationship with Shiesty, the situation surrounding him and the larger pressure that continues to follow some of the biggest street rappers of their generation. That leads into a bigger discussion about law enforcement and hip-hop. Loon and Gee talk about police understanding the slang, relationships and affiliations inside the culture, how much information artists put online and whether the business around street rap has become too public. EST Gee also addresses the conversation around Yo Gotti and CMG, including the viral $750,000 signing moment, the “Rich Before Gotti” line, the rumors surrounding their relationship and what his next business move could look like as his current Interscope deal reaches an important point. Future comes up through a behind-the-scenes story Gee has never made a major public talking point before. The conversation gets into their tour relationship, money, how Future treated him behind the scenes and why Gee believes Future deserves a different level of respect when people discuss the biggest Southern rap careers. Loon also challenges Gee on his own place in street rap—how much influence he has had on the sound and image of the generation that followed him, whether modern rap has lost its regional identity and why so many artists now seem to look, sound and move alike. Money and success open another side of the interview as Gee and Loon talk about the opportunities, bad investments and strange pitches that start coming once people know an artist has money. They get into expensive dogs, NFTs, clothing brands, scams and some of the lessons Gee learned after becoming successful. One of the wildest stories in the episode comes when EST Gee talks about almost dying at James Harden’s house, and the friend who saved his life joins the conversation to revisit what happened. The episode also gets into grief, losing people close to him, fatherhood, keeping his children away from the internet, meeting King Von, youth football in Louisville and using money and influence to create opportunities outside of music. With BIGGER THAN THE DEVIL arriving during a major transition point in his career, EST Gee and Loon cover where he has been, what changed around him and what the next chapter could look like. Watch the full EST Gee conversation on It’s Up There. 00:00:00 EST Gee - Its Up There 00:01:18 Bigger Than the Devil 00:04:42 EST Gee’s Interscope Deal 00:08:16 Money, Scams & Bad Investments 00:14:05 Biggest Street Artist Since 2020? 00:20:31 Pooh Shiesty 00:25:44 Police Know Hip-Hop’s Slang Now 00:30:52 Lil Durk’s Federal Case 00:37:18 Grief & Losing People 00:43:40 Yo Gotti & the $750K Story 00:50:26 “Rich Before Gotti” 00:57:12 Future Gives EST Gee $300K+ 01:04:38 King Von 01:09:22 EST Gee’s Show & Feature Money 01:15:41 Stitches Left in His Eye 01:19:08 Almost Dying at James Harden’s House 01:27:36 The Friend Who Saved EST Gee Joins 01:32:04 Fatherhood, Youth Football & NIL 01:33:02 Bigger Than the Devil / Final Thoughts 01:34:51 5 Shots • 5th Album 01:35:05 NIL Money 01:38:32 Final Thoughts Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast
