In advance of the premiere of her new AI fueled gesamtkunstwerk “Gorgon”, the artist Marianna Simnett joins us to dive into mythology, mimicry and the saga of convincing tools to do what you want them to!

“Gorgon” (commissioned by LAS) will take place at HAU Berlin from the 13-17th September

https://www.las-art.foundation/programme/gorgon

Follow Marianna Simnett: https://www.instagram.com/mariannasimnett/

Collect OGRESS on Foundation: https://foundation.app/collection/ogress

Over the past two decades Shawn Reynaldo has operated in every corner of electronic music. His substack "First Floor", recently anthologized into his debut book, offers a refreshingly candid account of his feelings about the turbulent state of a culture in transition. 

We dive into some of the choice essays from his book, reflect on some major shifts of the last decade, and attempt a COVID post mortem.

See Shawn on tour: https://thevinylfactory.com/news/first-floor-shawn-reynaldo/

Buy and read First Floor Volume 1: https://velocitypress.uk/product/first-floor-volume-1/

Sub to the  First Floor Substack: https://firstfloor.substack.com/

Follow Shawn: https://twitter.com/ShawnReynaldo

A great joy to host Andy Turner and Emma Catnip to discuss their work in celebration of the release of Plaid's latest album Feorm Falorx. We discuss their intergalactic space travel over the covid lockdown, our mutual rabbit-holing over the latest AI tools and techniques, and the situation for touring artists as they prepare to take the record on the road.

Experience Feorm Falorx, the album and graphic novel: https://plaid.warp.net/

See Plaid on tour soon: https://ra.co/dj/plaid/tour-dates

Follow Andy Turner: https://twitter.com/chimpandy

Follow Emma Catnip's work: https://linktr.ee/emmacatnip

Hi everyone! Back in the saddle after an enforced little break prompted by a peculiar cluster of medical scare, pregnancy and founding a new organization. What a wild year.

Thrilled to host James Bridle to discuss his recent book on ecologies of non-human intelligence "Ways of Being", animal sensing and co-operation, deliberative democracy, the singing origins of language, cybernetics, and a great deal more.  Few have such an encyclopedic and generous grasp of this field and it was a real treat. 

Have a sweet week 🦾

Read "Ways of Being": https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/317823/ways-of-being-by-bridle-james/9780241469651

Order the audiobook of "Ways of Being" read by James himself! https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250856111/waysofbeing

Read "The New Dark Age": https://www.versobooks.com/books/3002-new-dark-age

Follow James: https://twitter.com/jamesbridle

Mat joined our friends Emilie & Andrea at The Culture Journalist to cover a brief history of the current wave of AI art, why artist replacement narratives can veer on the absurd, and the work we are doing launching our new organization Spawning. 

Read and subscribe to the Culture Journalist: https://theculturejournalist.substack.com/

See if you feature in AI training models, and opt out or opt in: https://haveibeentrained.com/

A real joy to welcome one of our favorites David Kanaga, the composer and game designer behind Soft Valkyrie, a recent opera starring Stephen Fry and Attila Csihar, the dog opera O​ἶ​κ​o​ς​piel and more. We discuss gaming and modern composition and the fascinating villainy of Wagner.

Listen to Soft Valkyrie: https://davidkanaga.bandcamp.com/album/soft-valkyrie-first-day-from-the-ring-of-the-nibelung-directors-cut

Follow David: https://twitter.com/dkanaga

Play Oikospiel: http://www.oikospiel.com/

David's music: https://davidkanaga.bandcamp.com/

A joy to welcome Yancey Stickler to discuss his idea of Post-Individualism and his new project Metalabel. We also get into his prior work founding Kickstarter, its parallels to web 3, and new proposals to fund artistic scenes.

Metalabel: https://www.metalabel.xyz/

Follow Yancey: https://twitter.com/ystrickler

Read Yancey's great blog: https://www.ystrickler.com/writing

Such a joy to have on virtuosic musician and instrument builder Tim Exile to discuss his collaborative online musical ecosystem Endlesss, the uneasy state of contemporary music, new folk traditions and what piqued his interest in web 3.

Follow Tim: https://twitter.com/timexile 

Endlesss: https://endlesss.fm/

Tim's music: https://warp.net/artists/91285-tim-exile/info

David Turner shares some of the most insightful and thorough analyses on the music industry through his Penny Fractions newsletter. 

We link up to discuss the current state of streaming, his skepticism about much of crypto, and his positive perspective on the regular recycling of the 20th century in popular culture.

Sub to Penny Fractions: https://pennyfractions.ghost.io/

Follow Penny Fractions: https://twitter.com/pennyfractions

Anil is one of our favorite thinkers on AI. To celebrate the advent of Anil's debut book "Logiciel: Six Seminars on Computational Reason", we try and pick apart some high level concepts on reason and computation,  and discuss why recent deep learning breakthroughs may require a break from traditional conceptions of what we consider to be intelligence.

Follow Anil: https://twitter.com/cavvia

The Inclosure of Reason: https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9

A real pleasure to welcome Emad Mostaque to discuss the impending launch of Stable Diffusion, his comprehensive plans for open source AI infrastructure, the impending reconfiguration of how we create everything, and how artists might hope to adapt to it all. 

Stability.ai - https://stability.ai/

Stable Diffusion Beta: https://stability.ai/beta-signup-form

Follow Emad: https://twitter.com/EMostaque

Wonderful to catch up with DDSP co-author Hanoi Hantrakul, whose practice considers transcultural exchange using new technologies from machine learning to 3d printing. We discuss his contribution to the 2022 AI song contest, his VST plugin developed in his new role at Tik Tok, and the fascinating challenge of fair and generative ways to interact with deep cultural traditions in the context of AI. 
 

Follow Hanoi: https://twitter.com/yaboihanoi

Vote in the AI Song Contest: https://www.aisongcontest.com/the-2022-finalists

Try Mawf: https://mawf.io/

Try DDSP: https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ddsp-vst

Everyone and their llama is talking about AI ethics and law, so we invited the high Llama Andres Guadamuz, an eminent researcher in AI and IP, to discuss the particularities and uncertainties of AI training law, in honor of his recent paper on the subject. It is an issue of our time. We make it fun.

A Scanner Darkly: Copyright Infringement in Artificial Intelligence Inputs and Outputs: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4371204

Follow Andres on twitter: https://twitter.com/technollama

We had a wonderfully funny chat with Marina Abramović on AI authorship and digital twins, the urgent need for heroism, and the parallels between performance art and web 3's attempts to value the immaterial.

Marina Abramović's debut NFT project with Circa - The Hero 25FPS: https://circa.art/nft/

Marina Abramović: Seven Easy Pieces: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Easy_Pieces

Marina Abramović: The Life: https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/marina-abramovic-life/

We sit down with Sound.xyz founder David Greenstein to discuss the many different experiments and approaches happening to revalue music within the Ethereum ecosystem, touching on Spotify, TikTok and the traditional music industry in contrast.

Full disclosure, we contributed a small sum to Sound's seed investment round. 

Follow David: https://twitter.com/dgreenstein1

Follow Sound: https://twitter.com/soundxyz_

Celebrating the release of his first book "Greenpilled: How Crypto Can Regenerate The World" we welcome Kevin Owocki to discuss regenerative crypto-economics, doomer optimism,  impact DAO's, public goods and crypto's relationship to the state .  

Buy Greenpilled and take the pledge: https://greenpill.party/#book

Sub to The Green Pill Podcast: https://availableon.com/greenpill

Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/owocki

Gitcoin: https://gitcoin.co/

Our favorite projects at the moment are finding ways to harness the generative potential of Discord communities to coordinate ambitious projects, and what THE FRINGE are building is remarkable.

Already having created a bespoke successful Sci-Fi universe with their debut film PROSPECT, they are turning to Web 3 to build a more expansive, co-created and ultimately fair way to create movies. 

Really excited to share this one!

THE FRINGE: https://fringedrifters.com/

THE FRINGE White Paper: https://mirror.xyz/thefringe.eth/d4F3Xok4kOKHs8Dzbpan1A7XNtdTO3nBsEWcEGIhGec

Follow THE FRINGE: https://twitter.com/fringedrifters

PROSPECT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_(film)#:~:text=Prospect%20is%20a%202018%20American,in%20the%20moon's%20poisonous%20forest.

Wonderful to chat with Brett Scott in advance of his new book "Cloudmoney: Cash, Cards, Crypto and the War for Our Wallets" (Penguin) about the creeping incursions of cashlessness, the naivety of crypto and why cash is maybe worth keeping around!

Follow Brett: https://twitter.com/Suitpossum

Preorder "Cloudmoney": https://www.amazon.com/Cloudmoney-Cash-Cards-Crypto-Wallets-ebook/dp/B09HSBDLKG

Sub to Altered States of Monetary Consciousness: https://brettscott.substack.com/

Excited to chat with one of the most exciting projects in the music and crypto field, Songcamp, and the world's first headless band, Chaos!

Camp Chaos: https://www.chaos.build/

Songcamp: https://songcamp.mirror.xyz/

Follow Mark: https://twitter.com/markredito

Follow Matthew: https://twitter.com/matthewchaim

Follow Songcamp: https://twitter.com/songcamp_

Follow Chaos: https://twitter.com/headless_chaos

Lars Holdhus: http://www.larsholdhus.com/

Matt Liston's 0xOmega: https://www.ccn.com/crypto-cult-augur-founder-creates-ethereum-based-religion-called-0x%CF%89/

Welcoming crypto art legend and valued Interdependence subscriber Harm van den Dorpel on the podcast to discuss scarcity, genetic algorithms, managing expectations, limit experiences and his upcoming work, Markov's Dream

Follow Harm: https://twitter.com/harmvddorpel

Check out Harm's Work and writing: https://harm.work/

Check out Markov's Dream: https://harm.work/work/markovs-dream

Chemsex Benelux / Indiscreet Units: https://benelux.chem.sex/

Celebrating the release of Debit's album "The Long Count", composed using machine learning tools trained on the worlds largest archive of Mayan wind instruments! 

We discuss the genesis of the project, working with the gorgeous grain of nascent AI instruments, ancestral technologies, travels through Mexico, the plague of musical conservatism, and the double edged sword of "world music".

Buy "The Long Count": https://boomkat.com/products/the-long-count-16d8c6ef-30e1-4e6f-80fa-6957fd643e18

Follow Debit: https://twitter.com/delibeat

Hi everyone!

Something different this week. After listening to some great episodes pulling apart the Bandcamp Epic Games acquisition and showing some skepticism about Web 3, I approached Money 4 Nothing podcast to have a convivial discussion about crypto for a collaborative episode. 

We discuss common concerns and skepticisms, debate the motivations and significance of major labels in the space, ask if saving the 20th century music industry is worth it and a great deal more

I can really recommend checking out M4N at the links below!

Money 4 Nothing: https://money4nothing.podbean.com/

On Twitter: https://twitter.com/M4Npodcast

On Bandcamp and Epic Games: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bandcamp-and-epic-games-get-hitched/id1514180523?i=1000554131793

M4N with David Turner: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/web-3-bro-with-david-turner/id1514180523?i=1000550471345

We are happy to be back after Mat's COVID trip, discussing art prepping, Sterling's upcoming ArtBlocks piece, and his expert opinions on the state of ML, AR, VR and what is worth watching (and ignoring) about the impending metaverse.

Sterling's upcoming ArtBlocks reveal: https://www.artblocks.io/project/279

Sterling's art: http://www.sterlingcrispin.com/

Sterling's great blog: https://sterlingcrispin.blogspot.com/

Sterling's twitter: https://twitter.com/sterlingcrispin

After some weeks of nativity bliss and medical drama we are back! 

A joy to invite Venkatesh Rao to take us down a number of his bunny trails, focussing initially on his great piece The Permaweird, the latest in his Great Weirding series. We discuss the tendency to call "crisis!", a generally ambient sense of weirdness, and how the latest developments in AI suggest that isn't slowing down anytime soon

The Permaweird: https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/the-permaweird

Subscribe to Ribbonfarm: https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/

Follow Venkatesh on twitter: https://twitter.com/vgr

Hey y'all, after many references to this project in previous episodes we are really happy to welcome Adam and Luke from Context!

We discuss their efforts to make Web3 activity legible to humans, debate criticisms of the speculative nature of the Web3 art space, discuss the antecedent of drop culture, the shockwaves caused by making previously hidden financial activity transparent, and the potential for permissionless identities.

Check out Context: Context.app

Follow Luke: https://twitter.com/worm_emoji

Follow Adam: https://twitter.com/adamludwin

Hey everyone! This week we host the inimitable Cherie Hu to discuss the evolution of Water & Music into the first contributor led research DAO for the music industry, the changing definitions and focus of music & technology, Tik Tok and the politics (and occasional burden) of relatability. It was fun and revealing to work through the particularities and practicalities of making the jump into uncertain territory with Web 3 from a position in the more traditional music industry!

Everyone should check out what Cherie is building with Water & Music: https://www.waterandmusic.com/

Read the comprehensive $STREAM report: https://stream.waterandmusic.com/

Follow Cherie: https://twitter.com/cheriehu42

Jacob from ZORA runs us through his latest essay, Hyperstructures, and the future of ZORA protocol. We pull apart how permissionless protocols and cc0 projects are gathering significant momentum and what this might mean for the future of the internet and art making! We also dive down the rabbit hole of some pretty psychedelic NFT use cases. Super fun and enriching as ever. Hope you are all having a great week!

Hyperstructures: https://jacob.energy/hyperstructures.html

What is CryptoMedia: https://cryptomedia.wtf/

Nouns DAO: https://nouns.wtf/

The Congress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Congress_(2013_film)

A wonderful conversation with Jack Callahan, Eric Farber and Mike Pollard of Nina, who are building a protocol for permanent collections of music on the fast and affordable Solana Blockchain. 

Made all the more special that we come from similar experimental music scenes, we discuss the critical importance of establishing and archiving context for marginal musics, Myspace data loss and the revival of 00's era aesthetics, reanimating Scatman John, our our mutual appreciation of experimental composer Jeff Witscher, how protocol art is a more enduring framing than "NFT" art (equivalent to the LP as a medium), and our excitement and frustrations at both the rollout of Web 3 and its detractors. 

Nina Market: https://nina.market/

Jeff Witscher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Witscher

Flea label: https://newmusicindustrialcomplex.com/

Julius Eastman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Eastman

Myspace data loss: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-loses-all-content-uploaded-before-2016

We invited artist Simon Denny over to our studio for the final podcast of the year to go deep on his practice, a commitment to exploring context as a medium, making crypto art and exhibitions before everyone cared, and Dotcom Seance, his wild new art project on Folia.

A perfect guest to close out the year! We will be taking a break for the first week of January to focus on something big to be announced soon, and will also be doing an AMA in the early  new year - send over questions!

Happy new year everyone and thank you <3

Simon Denny: https://simondenny.net/

DOTCOM SEANCE: https://www.dotcomseance.com/

Proof of Stake Exhibition at Hamburg Kunstverein

Contextual data dump:

Making art about stories told about technology

History of art funding and institutional critique

Context as an expanded medium of expression

Unprecedented Participatory auction dynamics

Industrialist patrons aren't new

Proof of Stake Exhibition at Hamburg Kunstverein

Collector DAOs - Fingerprints/Flamingo

Protocol art/Situating crypto art on a longer historical timeline as a sign of maturity for the space

Off chain work in the crypto canon

What canon is, how it is created, and is it changing?

Does an art world want to be decentralized?

Can we have a flamingoDAO book please?

When traditional habits start to reappear as rational

Galleries and intermediaries still kindof make sense when they know what they are doing

Evolution of art fairs

Folia!

Dotcom Seance: bringing dot com companies back from the dead

pets.com

CashWars and FunBugs experimenting with their Seance ENS

The amount of time it takes to run tokenised art projects

The relevance of Web 1 to the present day

CD-ROMS

How to reconcile slower art making practices with the speed of information exchange

Interdependence

Late night debate about conceptual art and beauty

Is anything ugly?

Beauty is in the eye of the token holder!

Beeple

We (Interdependence) are doing an AMA soon - questions in comments ;)

Big one this week, artist and researcher Kyle McDonald did the gruelling work to calculate the energy and carbon cost of Ethereum, and we try to break down those numbers, calculate their relative impact, discuss critiques of web 3 and debate why they are mostly coming from where they are coming from.

Ethereum Emissions: https://kylemcdonald.github.io/ethereum-emissions/

Kyle's art: https://kylemcdonald.net/

Follow Kyle: https://twitter.com/kcimc

Who Pays Artists?: http://www.whopaysartists.com/

People staring at computers: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/people-staring-at-computers/

We had a long and wonderful chat with Ali after reading his "Who Goes Crypto?" piece on the increasing number of working people opting into investing money into the casino of crypto and meme stocks rather than adhere to crumbling narratives over how the economy works, and for whom. We also dive into an area of his expertise, online disinformation and it's political ramifications. 

Holly dips out half way through the discussion, she wasn't feeling great and we did not realise at the time she had contracted COVID. Fortunately all is well now, but that will explain the occasional coughing and spluttering.

Thanks everyone, have a great week <3
 

Follow Ali: https://twitter.com/alibreland

Read Mother Jones: https://www.motherjones.com/

Who Goes Crypto? by Ali Breland https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/11/who-goes-crypto-eth-bitcoin-etc-financialization-gamestop-class-wealth/

Why Are Right-Wing Conspiracies so Obsessed With Pedophilia? by Ali Breland https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/07/why-are-right-wing-conspiracies-so-obsessed-with-pedophilia/

Bad News by Joseph Bernstein https://harpers.org/archive/2021/09/bad-news-selling-the-story-of-disinformation/

We've been wanting to have this conversation for some time! Scott Moore joins us to discuss Gitcoin's efforts to sustain open source developers, the emerging culture shock between late 20th century free software ideologies and new proposals to get developers paid (which parallels a lot of the culture shock happening in the art and music world rn), discuss the role crypto may play in funding and sustaining public goods, and deviate into why setting good precedent may be important in anticipation of rapid onset AI. 

We sound a little croaky for this episode and the next one because we had a bit of COVID in the house. All is good now thankfully. Stay safe out there everyone, and thanks <3

Gitcoin: https://gitcoin.co/

Follow Scott: https://twitter.com/notscottmoore

Gitcoin grants: https://gitcoin.co/grants/

Quadratic Funding primer: https://wtfisqf.com/?grant=&grant=&grant=&grant=&match=1000

Review of Optimism Funding: https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/11/16/retro1.html

Original 'Dependency' cartoon by xkcd: https://xkcd.com/2347/

We had a wonderful friday night hang with artist Deafbeef, who has had a crazy year transitioning from full time blacksmithing to becoming a respected artist known for his on-chain audio visual experiments. After an intense year we try to go as far off script as is possible and just talk about art, satire, music making and cooking videos.

Check out Deafbeef's work: https://www.deafbeef.com/

Follow Deafbeef on Twitter:  https://twitter.com/_deafbeef

Stuff we discussed

Brad Troemel's Athletic Aesthetics: https://thenewinquiry.com/athletic-aesthetics/

Media Archaelogist Erkki Huhtamo: http://www.erkkihuhtamo.com/

Folie à deux: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux

Etoy Corp https://etoy.com/

Frank Zappa at the PMRC hearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAF8Vu8G0w

Wonderful to welcome Jess from Seed club, who help web communities make the transition to member owned DAOs! 

Apply for Seed Club: https://seedclub.xyz/

Follow Jess: https://twitter.com/thattallguy

We caught up with Damien Roach, aka patten, aka 555-5555, to discuss the need for new language to navigate the abstract implications of machine learning for our understanding of art, and the limitations of the modernist approach. We also eventually get around to discussing his beautiful new record "Mirage FM" created in part with Riffusion, a text-to-audio model.

Follow Damien: https://twitter.com/patttten / https://www.instagram.com/patttten

Buy "Mirage FM": https://patttten.bandcamp.com/album/mirage-fm

Slaying Moloch, starting the first crypto art registry, Bowie Bonds, Data markets and data unions with Ocean Protocol's Trent McConaghy

Trent has been very influential to our thinking. There are few people who can talk with such fluency on matters we care about, even better build compelling alternatives. 

In this we discuss how he and his wife Masha built the first crypto art registry, Ascribe, long before the concept of an NFT existed. We also discuss how his latest project Ocean Protocol proposes to hand us control of our data at the dawn of the next internet. 

Follow Trent: https://twitter.com/trentmc0

Trent's Blog: http://trent.st/blog/

Ascribe: https://www.ascribe.io/

Ocean Protocol: https://oceanprotocol.com/

Swash: https://swashapp.io/

 In conjunction with this years Ljubljana Biennial of Graphic Arts titled "Iskra Delta "curated by Tjaša Pogačar we interviewed Janez Skrubej, the author of "The Cold War For Information Technology: the Inside Story".

 Inside indeed, as Janez was the former CEO of Iskra Delta, a major contender on the world stage for not only personal computers, but also large scale networked IT systems. Based within Tito’s Yugoslavia it was caught in the crosshairs in the cold war, working between the US, Soviet Union, China, and India, with each corresponding intelligence agency pushing their own agenda. Janez was the managing director during this time, and was personally paid visits by the presidents of the Soviet Union, China and India, as well as the CIA and KGB. Ultimately the conflicting interests overpowered the small IT company and it closed, leaving Europe without a major contender in the global IT race. 

It’s a treat to speak to Janez about this extraordinary situation, and to imagine an alternative history where Iskra Delta might have had a fighting chance.

Read The Cold War for Information Technology: The Inside Story: https://www.amazon.com/Cold-War-Information-Technology-Inside-ebook/dp/B00C1NWL2E

Follow Janez Skrubej updates: http://sbpra.com/janezskrubej/

We cannot wait to see this film! http://senca-studio.si/en/portfolio/sparks-in-time/

Check out the Ljubljana Biennale of Graphic arts, with contributions by Other Internet, John Akomfrah, Simon Denny, Josh Citarella, us and more!: https://34.bienale.si/en/

Hi everyone!! We often have discussions on here about web 3 representing a real opportunity for the independent music industry, and Bruno Guez is an expert on how that might end up transpiring, from his time working as a label head, directing the Merlin Network and more recently in building Revelator.  

Check out Revelator: https://revelator.com/

Follow Bruno on Twitter: https://twitter.com/brunoguez?lang=en

Rhea Myers conceptualised a new art world by curiously tinkering with new tools and seeing what art she could make with them. We catch up with her to reflect on the earliest days of crypto art, her experiments with the medium and their art historical roots in 60's conceptualism, the current state of the field, Loot frenzy and the recent arrival of the dragonslayers, and some areas she feels are yet unexplored.

This was crazy fun.

Follow Rhea on twitter: https://twitter.com/rheaplex

Read and check out Rhea's Work: https://rhea.art

Conceptual Art, Cryptocurrency and Beyond: https://www.furtherfield.org/conceptual-art-cryptocurrency-and-beyond/

Ethereum Art Market: https://rhea.art/ethereum-art-market

Certificate of Inauthenticity: https://rhea.art/certificate-of-inauthenticity

Tokens Equal Text: https://rhea.art/tokens-equal-text

Rhea's writing on Furtherfield: https://www.furtherfield.org/author/rhea-myers/

Furtherfields (excellent) book Artists Rethinking the Blockchain: https://torquetorque.net/wp-content/uploads/ArtistsReThinkingTheBlockchain.pdf

Rhea's Gallery Kate Voss: https://www.katevassgalerie.com/

Flow Blockchain:  https://www.onflow.org/

Fingerprints DAO: https://www.fingerprintsdao.xyz/

Thrilled to welcome artist, educator and meme master Max Alper (La Meme Young) to join us to discuss running an online art school, sound and meme pedagogy, musical body building and deliver an on the ground report of crypto excessiveness arriving in his new home of Puerto Rico.

Learn music with La Meme Young: https://www.patreon.com/la_meme_young

Follow his incredible Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/la_meme_young/?hl=en

Brian Ferneyhough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RTPYaWXj8

Jason Eckardt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrY1V2Q3iwI

Nitro - Freight train - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGf5NxLQoEo

Our first ever in person discussion this week with writer and curator Shumon Basar to discuss his new book with Douglas Coupland and Hans Ulrich Obrist, The Extreme Self, published in accompaniment with the exhibition "Age of You" most recently hosted at Jameel Art Centre, Dubai.

We discuss a number of neologisms that appear in the book, not least Shumon's concept of  "Emotional Capitalism", the growing and alarming gulf between reality and the stories we have to comprehend it, and how art institutions might hope to keep up!

Read The Extreme Self:

Europe: https://doyoureadme.de/shop/culture-society/the-extreme-self?v=3a52f3c22ed6

US: https://www.artbook.com/9783960989738.html

Dazed Interview: https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/53342/1/extreme-self-age-douglas-coupland-shumon-basar-hans-ulrich-obrist-interview

Watch Shumon's Visual Essay "Season Ending (The Day Of Forever): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzAc8yRWGCo 

Hey everyone,

thanks again for your support! We have a great cast of people joining us over the next few weeks. In line with our recent emphasis on collective character development, we invited Arif Khan and Juliet Gardner of Alethea AI to discuss the incoming age of synthetic media, collectively and autonomously created characters, their concept of interactive NFTs and much more

Check out Alethea AI: https://alethea.ai/

Follow Arif: https://twitter.com/ArKhan

Follow Juliet: https://twitter.com/cybersomeone

If you have spent any time online recently, you have no doubt seen an explosion of remarkable images generated from text with Latent Visions, VQGAN and CLIP. We spoke to Adverb, the creator of Latent Visions, about his project, Promptism, and where we see these applications developing in the next few years (or at this pace, months). 

Unmissable discussion with someone who has contributed so much to the field this year!

Follow Adverb: https://twitter.com/advadnoun

Thrilled this week to invite artist and author Emily Segal, whose debut auto-fictional novel “Mercury Retrograde” tells the story of a young artists attempt to reconcile the abstract landscape of overfunded startups and the art world, set in New York between Occupy and the Trump Presidency. We discuss what can be learned from the post-internet era as we stand at the precipice of a new internet, the tensions created by the meeting between financial and social capital, what the hell an artist is anyway now?? and Emily’s recent deep dive on funding new literature projects with web 3.

Read Mercury Retrograde: https://delugebooks.com/products/mercury-retrograde

Deluge Books: https://delugebooks.com/

$NOVEL on Mirror: https://emily.mirror.xyz/0AFENlMKv9amUC1OJIZY26udpISw_raXkoEcvelPvzg

Nemesis Global: https://nemesis.global/

Hi everyone, this week we are thrilled to invite author and developer Daniel Suarez, whose self published science fiction book Daemon became a cult success for its hard science fiction depiction of a narrow AI preprogrammed to re-order the world after the death of it's game developer author. We discuss Daemon and it's follow up Freedom™, how those books inspired aspects of the formation of Ethereum, the importance of reframing narratives through art, and Daniel's more recent work, Delta-V, researching the economics of space exploration. This is a really fun one!

Daniel Suarez: https://daniel-suarez.com/

On twitter: https://twitter.com/itsdanielsuarez

Daemon: https://www.amazon.com/DAEMON-Daemon-Daniel-Suarez/dp/0451228731

Freedom™: https://www.amazon.com/Freedom-TM-Daemon-Daniel-Suarez/dp/0451231899

Delta-v: https://daniel-suarez.com/Delta-v_synopsis.html

Runway have been on an absolute tear of late offering new AI tools for their creative production suite, so we invited CEO Cristóbal Valenzuela to join us to discuss their approach, and how the mental models of artists and greater society may change in accordance with the shifts happening.    
 

Try out Runway: https://runwayml.com

Follow Runway: https://twitter.com/runwayml

Follow Cristóbal: https://twitter.com/c_valenzuelab

Super excited to share this one, on the advent of our collaboration for Holly+, we are joined by Chris Deaner and Yotam Mann of Never Before Heard Sounds, a brand new company releasing AI music tools, to discuss approachable AI tools for music making, the inevitable model economy, new approaches to DAWs and the Holly+ project more generally!

Never Before Heard Sounds: https://heardsounds.com/

Follow them on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeardSounds

Play with Holly+ (and share your results!): https://holly.plus/

Happy to welcome activist and science communicator Zion Lights to discuss Energy Justice, the scientific consensus around Nuclear Power, the shaky morality of Degrowth positions, Greta Thunberg, Extinction Rebellion and her new advocacy organisation, Emergency Reactor!

Zion Lights: http://www.zionlights.co.uk/

Join Emergency Reactor: https://www.emergencyreactor.org/

Continuing our DAO thread we are thrilled to be joined by Aaron & Priyanka of OpenLaw, instrumental in formulating and passing the Wyoming DAO legislation, and stewards of NFT art collection DAO Flamingo, Tempest DAO and The LAO. We discuss what a DAO is, what the legislation means for human and nonhuman DAOs, art collecting in web3 and how DAO governance has been working in practice. 

This is a great introduction to DAOs and early experiments in the medium for the unfamiliar!

Apologies for the imperfect audio, our laptop decided to rebel just as we started the call. 

Next week we continue the theme by inviting Science Fiction author Daniel Suarez, whose book Daemon had a hand in inspiring the concept of the DAO in the first place, as discussed in this episode :)

Thanks again for your support everyone, have a wonderful week <3

OpenLaw: https://www.openlaw.io

FlamingoDAO: https://flamingodao.xyz/

The LAO: https://www.thelao.io/

Follow Priyanka: https://twitter.com/pridesai

Follow Aaron: https://twitter.com/awrigh01

Watch Josh's streams: https://www.twitch.tv/joshuacitarella

Listen to Josh's interviews: https://www.patreon.com/joshuacitarella

Joshua Citarella - 20 Interviews Book: https://www.amazon.com/20-Interviews-Joshua-Citarella/dp/1034279270/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=joshua+citarella&qid=1611597124&sr=8-1

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