”Not just another mining podcast... Hearts & Mines won’t be reporting on share prices, production guidances or the latest advances in mining technologies. Instead, we’ll be showcasing the achievements, practices and insights of company directors and executives who are passionate about improving the human experience within the industry.
Join us as we explore this often underrated but critical aspect of mining. Our guests will share personal stories and experiences that are rich in substance and instructive for our own development. These are the captivating stories of mining people who understand the value of leadership in engaging stakeholders and improving workplace culture.
With your hosts Alana Bray–White & David Beilby, stay tuned for insightful discussions and inspiring stories! Also if you would like to tell your story and join the conversation, please contact us at info@ivyandgecko.com.au to register your interest.”
”Hearts & Mines is recorded at Hush Connective studios in Perth.
Episodes produced by Angela Vitalich.
Guest scheduling by Carol Wilson.
Host David Beilby.
Co host Alana Bray–White.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in ’Hearts & Mines’ are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
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Taxes, Falling Rankings and the Blue-Banded Bee - Tania Constable's View on Mining Policy - Special
Épisode 44
lundi 20 juillet 2026 • Durée 42:22
Recorded in Canberra, this special edition of Hearts & Mines features ivy & gecko's Managing Director Alana Bray-White and co-Founder David Beilby, in conversation with Tania Constable, CEO of the Minerals Council of Australia (MCA) — our nation's peak body representing the mining industry on federal policy, taxation and regulatory matters.
Returning to the Hearts & Mines platform following her 2025 appearance, Tania provides a timely update on key policy and investment issues shaping the future of Australia's resources sector. The discussion explores the MCA's Hands Off Our Fuel campaign, proposed capital gains tax changes and their potential impact on junior explorers, industrial action in the Pilbara, and Australia's declining competitiveness as a destination for global mining investment. Alana, David and Tania also examine the industry's evolving relationship with Traditional Owners, the rapid adoption of artificial intelligence across exploration, operations and regulatory approvals, and the policy settings needed to rebuild investor confidence and strengthen Australia's position as a leading global mining jurisdiction.
A thoughtful policy-driven discussion on the challenges and opportunities facing Australia's most important industry, featuring insights from one of mining's most respected policy leaders with contributions from the Founders of ivy & gecko, Australia's #1 firm for mining executive and board search.
Recorded and produced by Podwave Studios:https://podwavestudios.au/
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
In this episode of Hearts & Mines, David Beilby speaks with Marnie Finlayson, Managing Director of ASX-listed uranium explorer DevEx Resources. A minerals processing engineer by training, Marnie spent 17 years at Rio Tinto across iron ore, gold, uranium, battery metals and rare earths, culminating in the role of Managing Director of the company's battery materials business, and played a key role in implementing recommendations from Rio's landmark workplace culture review.
This is a candid, high-energy conversation covering Marnie's upbringing on a remote sheep station north of Kalgoorlie, why she walked away from a major ASX company to build a junior uranium explorer from scratch, what authentic leadership really looks like at the top, and how AI has become a genuine part of her leadership team. A warm, honest conversation from one of WA's rising resource sector leaders.
(00:50) Welcome Marnie Finlayson & the Raoul rivalry (02:28) Career snapshot: engineer, Rio Tinto, Northern Star, DevEx (03:33) Growing up on a sheep station north of Kalgoorlie (06:25) Boarding school and the School of the Air (08:14) Letters to Grandpa and the lost art of letter-writing (10:30) Finding mining: WASM and life on site (13:26) The tertiary education gap in mining (14:10) The ship loader operator and finding purpose (15:40) Life outside work: cold ocean swims, boxing, yoga and fiction (17:25) What leadership means to Marnie (19:29) Courage, diversity of thought and challenging the status quo (22:07) Authenticity, listening and lessons from Serbia
Site Visits, Self-Esteem & Succession Planning: Debra Bakker's View on Mining Culture
Épisode 42
dimanche 21 juin 2026 • Durée 50:45
In this episode of Hearts & Mines, David is joined by co-host Gail Triston to speak with Debra Bakker, professional non-executive director sitting on the boards of IGO and Yancoal. A former corporate banker turned career NED, Debra has spent decades navigating boardrooms, project financing, M&A transactions, and corporate strategy across the resources sector.
This is a candid, wide-ranging conversation about what genuine leadership looks like at board level versus the executive level, why empathy and encouragement matter more than authority, and the real value of governance training. A genuinely warm and honest conversation from one of WA's most respected directors.
(03:50) Early life, upbringing & running away to the mining camps
(07:00) How Debra fell into a career in mining finance
(08:30) Life on the farm in Margaret River
(10:15) Something not many people know about Debra
(12:10) Leadership at board level vs executive level
(14:40) Why leadership is about empathy and encouragement
(17:15) The value of the AICD Director's Course and failing the exam
The Remuneration Specialist: Mining Pay Structures Are Breaking & How to Fix Them | Allan Feinberg
Épisode 41
dimanche 7 juin 2026 • Durée 46:38
In this episode of Hearts & Mines, David sits down with Allan Feinberg, MD of Remsmart, a remuneration and reward strategy consultant with more than 20 years of experience advising boards, REM committees, and HR executives with a particular focus on the mining industry.
Far more than a conversation about pay structures, this is a masterclass in understanding what truly drives people, builds trust, and shapes culture inside resource companies. Allan unpacks why mining remuneration is fundamentally different from every other industry, how poorly designed incentive plans can quietly destroy a culture, and why the difference between an incentive and a retention plan matters far more than most boards realise. He also shares refreshingly candid reflections on self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and what it really takes to show up well as a consultant and as a leader. Whether you work in mining, people management, or any business where relationships are the currency, there's something here for you. #
(01:45) Early life: growing up in Johannesburg & moving to Perth
(06:50) The red tractor dream something not many people know about Allan
(09:05) What Allan loves about working in the mining industry
From Net Zero to World First: Darren Stralow on Building Bellevue Gold from the Ground Up
Épisode 40
dimanche 24 mai 2026 • Durée 58:02
In this episode of Hearts & Mines, David sits down with Darren Stralow, MD & CEO of Bellevue Gold. Over four years, Darren has led Bellevue through one of the most ambitious journeys in modern Australian mining, from exploration project to the world's first net zero gold producer, built from the ground up as a single-asset company. Far more than a gold story, this conversation is a masterclass in leadership, culture, resilience and people. Darren reflects candidly on navigating the inevitable challenges of building a mine, what it really takes to retain and inspire a high-performing team, the dance floor versus balcony philosophy of great leadership, and why doing the right thing by the environment turned out to be brilliant business. Whether you work in mining, resources, or any people-driven organisation, the lessons here are universal.
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00:00 Gold Versus Printing Money
00:52 Bellevue Update
03:08 Net Zero Goldmine
07:03 Early Life Roots
08:51 School Mines Years
12:33 Switching Off
14:06 Sports And Leadership
16:19 Leadership Essentials
23:00 Trust Through Visibility
25:12 Storytelling That Sticks
28:35 Stories That Teach
29:32 Empathy And Fair Judgement
30:13 Trust And Communication Filters
31:42 Board Versus Executive Leadership
33:27 Stakeholders License To Operate
35:04 Incentives And Retention
36:49 Values Beyond Money
38:25 Three Cs Of Engagement
39:17 Culture Is 100 Small Things
40:56 Making Values Real
43:40 Mining Industry Challenges
44:31 Exploration And Red Tape
46:47 Rapid Fire Reflections
46:52 Hope In Next Generation
48:03 Hard Assets And Gold
48:54 Proudest Achievements
50:15 Future Aspirations And Balance
51:57 Dinner With Schwarzenegger
53:40 Best Advice Stay Grounded
55:14 Advice To My 20 Year Old Self
56:57 Closing Thanks And Farewell
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Leadership insights from the man who took the West Coast Eagles to 5 Grand Finals and 4 Premierships
Saison 1 · Épisode 39
dimanche 10 mai 2026 • Durée 47:04
In this episode of Hearts & Mines, David sits down with Trevor Nisbett, former CEO of The West Coast Eagles and leading businessman. Over more than two decades at the helm, Trevor transformed the Eagles from a financially troubled interstate newcomer into one of the AFL's most commercially successful clubs, competing in five grand finals and winning four premierships. Far more than a football story, this conversation is a masterclass in leadership, culture, resilience and people. Trevor reflects candidly on navigating the club's darkest chapter, the qualities that define great leaders, what it really takes to build a winning culture, and the wisdom he'd pass on to his 25-year-old self. Whether you work in sport, mining, or any people-driven organisation, the lessons here are universal.
Leading with Heart: Mia Gous on Breaking Barriers in Global Mining
Épisode 38
dimanche 19 avril 2026 • Durée 54:15
In this episode of Hearts & Minds, we speak with Mia Gous, Regional Operations Manager at First Quantum Minerals. Mia is an accomplished engineer with extensive global experience, famously serving as the first female General Manager in Chile’s large-scale mining sector. She shares powerful reflections on leading through the COVID-19 pandemic and her journey across diverse cultures, commodities, and languages. The conversation explores the critical pillars of trust and purpose in leadership, the importance of culture in executing strategy, and the evolving challenges of maintaining competitiveness in the Australian mining landscape. A deep and empathic discussion with a pioneering leader dedicated to mentoring the next generation of industry talent.
01:05 The Courage to Stay: Leading a Chilean Mine through COVID-19
04:00 Reflections on the "Pivotal Decision" to put people first
06:36 Formative Years: Growing up in Apartheid-era South Africa
08:00 The Impact of Nelson Mandela’s Moral Leadership
10:25 Navigating Different Cultures, Commodities, and Languages
14:45 Career Highlights: Becoming the first female GM in Chile
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Building a Modern Gold Producer, Leadership Lessons with Matt Nixon, CEO of Genesis Minerals
Épisode 37
dimanche 15 mars 2026 • Durée 51:56
In this episode of Hearts & Mines, we speak with Matt Nixon, CEO of Genesis Minerals. Matt is a mining engineer with around 20 years’ experience across operational, technical and executive roles in both underground and open pit mining. He shares insights from his journey through the industry and discusses the strategy behind Genesis Minerals’ growth as a gold producer in Western Australia’s Laverton and Leonora districts. The conversation explores leadership in mining, building high-performing teams, and the realities of operating and expanding assets in today’s gold market. A practical and thoughtful discussion with one of the sector’s emerging leaders.
From the Mine Site to Executive Leadership, Tim Hewitt on Scaling Gold Operations
Épisode 36
lundi 2 mars 2026 • Durée 43:24
In this episode, we sit down with Tim Hewitt, Chief Operating Officer of Ramelius Resources, to discuss what it takes to scale a Western Australian gold producer toward 500,000 ounces by 2030. A mining engineer with more than 30 years’ experience, Tim shares leadership insights from senior roles at Lihir Gold, St Barbara, Newmont and Gold Fields. The conversation explores operational leadership, growth execution, and the realities of running large, complex mining operations.
Leading Growth and Corporate Value with Scott Williamson
Épisode 35
dimanche 15 février 2026 • Durée 42:51
In this episode, we speak with Scott Williamson, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of Horizon Gold, where he is leading the development of the Gum Creek Project. Scott also serves as a Non-Executive Director of Leeuwin Metals and Corazon Mining. With previous roles as Managing Director of Blackstone Minerals, Investor Relations Manager at Resolute Mining, and Resources Analyst at Euroz Hartleys, Scott brings global experience across multiple commodities. We explore his leadership journey, operational perspective, capital markets insight and approach to building corporate value in evolving resource businesses. An insightful conversation for mining and investment professionals alike.
Recorded and produced by Podwave Studios:https://podwavestudios.au/
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast.
Content provided is for informational purposes only.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
(10:40) Leaving Hay Group to start Remsmart
(12:15) Launching during the 2008 crash
(13:30) Why mining remuneration is unlike any other industry
(17:20) The non-negotiable qualities of great leadership
(19:50) How to build trust with clients
(22:40) What makes a good remuneration framework
(25:10) The difference between incentive, retention, and capability plans
(30:10) How a poorly designed incentive structure can damage company culture
(32:25) Advice for a first-time REM committee chair
(38:30) Rapid fire: proudest moments & what's still ahead
(40:20) Most admired leader: Thomas Edison
(41:35) The book that shaped Allan's thinking The Goal by Eliyahu Goldratt
(43:35) Allan's daily productivity habit knowing when NOT to pick up the phone
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
(09:30) The Wirrpanda Foundation and community legacy
(10:30) Post-Eagles plans family, grandkids and leadership education
(11:15) The qualities of great leaders toughness, empathy and mentorship
(14:30) Vulnerability in leadership Hayden Bunton Jr. and owning your mistakes
(17:45) The biggest challenge navigating the Ben Cousins drug saga
(21:00) What the club learned acting sooner and the power of a strong board
(23:15) Engaging a team of individuals getting young men to collaborate
(26:15) What makes a strong and healthy culture and why "culture" is overused
(29:00) Trevor's question to David how do you recruit from a shallow pool?
(33:45) Rapid fire dinner with Nelson Mandela and the question he'd ask
(35:00) The wisest person Trevor has met Ron Evans and the art of not recruiting
(36:30) The greatest AFL coaches of all time Norm Smith, Sheedy, Malthouse
(37:45) The greatest AFL players of all time Farmer, Ablett, Judd
(39:30) Book recommendation The Power of Choice by Neale Daniher
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
18:00 The Future of Mining: Changing the Industry’s Global Image
19:55 Mining Families: A daughter’s perspective on a FIFO career
23:45 A Day in the Life of a Global Operations Manager
28:50 Three Pillars of Leadership: Relationship, Trust, and Purpose
32:15 The First Quantum Values: Bolder, Smarter, Driven Together
36:30 Why Culture is the Bedrock of Strategy and Execution
39:40 Challenges Facing the Australian Mining Jurisdictions
43:55 David’s Formula for Trust
46:10 Rapid Fire: The 10:00 PM Club and Advice to her 25-year-old self
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
17:48 Vulnerability & Trust: Being Human as a Leader
19:28 Decision-Making Under Disruption: Lessons from COVID and Capital Markets
21:10 Lead with Optimism: Focus on What You Can Control
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in 'Hearts & Mines' are those of the podcast participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of ivy & gecko or any other agency, organisation, employer, or company associated with the podcast. Content provided is for informational purposes only.
