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From Caravan to Half a Billion: Richard Woods' Journey from The Apprentice to 154-Person Team29 Nov 2025
What if the secret to scaling from 1 to 154 people in just 12 months wasn't about working harder — but building smarter systems? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Richard Woods — three-time bestselling author, award-winning entrepreneur, creator of LinkedIn Breakfast, and founder of a business that's exploded from a one-person operation to a team of 154 in barely over a year. Richard shares his remarkable journey from growing up in an entrepreneurial household (complete with living in a caravan during the tough times) to appearing on BBC's The Apprentice, building and selling three businesses, and discovering why he's not cut out to be a celebrity — but is brilliant at systemising growth. Together, Paul and Richard unpack the brutal lessons from business failure, the hidden traps of coaching without accountability, why discipline beats dopamine every time, and how offshore teams in Nigeria became the unlock for hyper-growth. They also dive deep into LinkedIn strategy, the power of weekly content rhythms, CEO dashboards, and why most entrepreneurs are still firefighting instead of leading. If you're a business owner ready to scale fast, systemise smart, and finally step out of operator mode into true CEO leadership, this conversation is essential listening. Key Takeaways From caravan to half a billion: Richard's entrepreneurial upbringing and the roller-coaster lessons that shaped his risk appetite Why going on The Apprentice taught him he didn't want to be a celebrity — but gave him invaluable sales and negotiation lessons The brutal reality of coaching: why accountability matters more than information How Richard scaled from 1 to 154 team members in 12 months using offshore talent in Nigeria The LinkedIn content system: why a 13-week cycle, weekly moments, and news jacking are game-changers Discipline beats dopamine: why half an hour a day on LinkedIn can generate £100K+ per year CEO dashboards and the power of numbers: how data-driven planning sets you free Why most people struggle with focus — and how the "power of one" unlocks exponential growth The five reasons people buy coaching: leadership, routine, community, personalisation, and accountability What a grown-up business really looks like: when you stop firefighting and start leading strategically About Richard Woods Richard Woods is a three-time bestselling author, award-winning keynote speaker, investor, and serial entrepreneur who has built and sold three businesses. He's the creator of LinkedIn Breakfast, a thriving community on a mission to become the best place on earth to learn LinkedIn for free, and author of The Million Dollar Sprint. Richard appeared on BBC's The Apprentice in 2015, where he broke records by selling £4.2 million worth of property in 24 hours and reached the final. After exiting his marketing agency and a boiler servicing business, he pivoted into coaching — but quickly realised traditional coaching wasn't enough. That's when he cracked the code: combining coaching with fully trained offshore virtual assistants. In just over a year, Richard scaled his latest business from 1 person to 154 team members, primarily overseas based, helping entrepreneurs systemise their growth, dominate LinkedIn, and build businesses that work without them. His superpower? Systemising scale and making the complex simple. Resources & Links SPECIAL SHOW OFFER - 1:1 with Richard Wood to look at how to effectively outsource the things you should not be doing yourself → Book a Call Join the free 5-Day LinkedIn Challenge → linkedinforbreakfast.com Connect with Richard Woods on LinkedIn → Richard Woods | LinkedIn Learn more about Richard’s Virtual Assistants → Sprint VA Get Richard's book The Million Dollar Sprint → Available on Amazon Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights → Paul Avins | LinkedIn Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you'll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think Bigger: Ready to systemise your LinkedIn strategy and start generating consistent leads? Join Richard's free LinkedIn for Breakfast community at linkedinforbreakfast.com Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
From Burnout to Breakthrough: How to Run a Multi-Million Pound Business in Just 25 Hours a Week06 Nov 202501:28:31
What if working less could actually help you scale faster? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul chats with Ben Coomber, founder of Awesome Supplements and high-performance coach, about how he went from complete burnout and long Covid to running a multi-million pound business while working just 25 hours a week. Ben gets really honest about his journey from being a controlling, fear-driven CEO putting in 70-hour weeks to finally stepping back, hiring a proper COO, and figuring out that his best business ideas actually happen when he's nowhere near the office. They dig into why meditation isn't just wellness nonsense but actually a strategic business tool, how getting seriously ill with long Covid forced him to completely rethink leadership, and why freedom should be the whole point of building a business, not something you get after you've destroyed your health. If you're an entrepreneur burning yourself out trying to control everything, or you're wondering how you can actually scale without sacrificing your health and family time, this conversation is going to challenge everything you think about success. Key Takeaways Get "How to Live an Awesome Life" by Ben Coomber → Available on Amazon and all good bookstores How Ben went from fear-based leadership to running his business from a place of abundance and trust Why working 25 hours a week can actually be way more productive than 70 hours if you get it right When to exit a business before you lose passion and the value tanks How long Covid taught Ben that being healthy isn't just about the physical stuff Why meditation is really about paying attention to yourself and spotting where you need to do the work The five things every CEO should nail: sleep, nutrition, exercise, cutting out alcohol, and creating proper space How to stop being an operator and start thinking like an investor in your own business Why hiring a brilliant COO might be the smartest move you make for scaling About Ben Coomber Ben Coomber is a high-performance coach, speaker, and founder of Awesome Supplements, which has won 21 awards and grown to multi-million pound revenues. After building nutrition coaching businesses and training teams of coaches, Ben launched Awesome Supplements focusing on products that actually taste good and work. Ben wrote "How to Live an Awesome Life" and used to host The Awesome Human Podcast. His whole thing is helping entrepreneurs build successful businesses without wrecking their health, relationships, or sanity in the process. He's a dad of two and reckons businesses should give you the life you want, not eat up your entire existence. Resources & Links Try Awesome Supplements with CEO15 discount code — Awesome Supplements Connect with Ben Coomber — Ben Coomber | LinkedIn Follow Paul Avins — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 sleep habits from this episode you'll implement in the next 72 hours and test how they impact your performance. Think Bigger: Ready to treat sleep like the business asset it is? Start tracking your sleep data and building your strategic wind-down routine tonight. Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
Inside the Den: A Journey to Seven Figures with Emma Burke02 Jun 202501:32:29
What really happens when you step into Dragons’ Den? For most entrepreneurs, pitching on BBC’s Dragons’ Den is the ultimate high‑stakes moment. For Emma Burke, founder of LACEEZE, that moment became a turning point in her journey, as she stepped into the Den, faced the Dragons, and walked out with an investment deal that put her grassroots sports brand on the fast track to growth. In this candid conversation with Paul Avins, Emma reveals the highs and lows behind the headlines – from running a multi‑million pound cleaning company, through the pain of business failure, to reinventing herself in the world of sport with an innovation solving one of football’s simplest but biggest problems. Beyond the Den lights and the deal, the discussion dives into the inner journey of entrepreneurship: knowing when to pivot, learning how to bounce back stronger, and why sharing your authentic story is as powerful as building the business itself. Key Highlights Building a successful business demands consistency, adaptability, and grit through challenges. Delegation is critical to free up the founder’s time for higher-value, strategic growth. Sharing your personal journey and engaging authentically builds a relatable brand that attracts loyal customers. Exposure through platforms like Dragon’s Den can enhance credibility, visibility, and open doors to new partnerships. Listen in for a raw, behind-the-scenes perspective on what it truly takes to grow a brand from kitchen table idea to a household name in grassroots sport. About Our Guest – Emma Burke Emma Burke is the founder of LACEEZE, one of the UK’s fastest‑growing grassroots sports brands, dedicated to solving everyday problems for young athletes. After securing investment on BBC’s Dragon’s Den, Emma has taken LACEEZE from start‑up idea to a business on track for seven‑figure revenues—all while keeping her mission of supporting grassroots sport at the heart of the brand. Resources & Links Connect with Emma Burke on LinkedIn — Emma Burke | LinkedIn Explore the Laceeze's brand — Laceeze | Soccer Accessories Follow Paul Avins for scale-up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Ready to build your own “grown up” business? Explore free resources at ScaleUpCoaching.com. Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
From Adversity to Success: Navigating the Billionaire Business Landscape20 May 202502:08:43
What’s it like to sell your business to a billionaire? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Andrew Scott, Founder and CEO of the Ascot Group, serial entrepreneur, investor, and the previous owner of Business Leader magazine, which he successfully sold to billionaire Richard Harpin. Andrew’s story is one of resilience and reinvention: from arriving in the UK aged 18 with no money or qualifications, to scaling his companies to multi-million turnover, building a respected media brand, and ultimately selling it at a premium valuation. Together, Paul and Andrew uncover the mindset, strategies and lessons behind scaling fast, building brand equity, and thinking global – plus what it’s really like negotiating with billionaires. If you’re a CEO or founder aiming to scale faster, increase brand value, or prepare your business for a world-class exit, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways Billionaires move at speed: Deals get done fast – but you must have systems, numbers, and information ready on demand. The 3 Levers of Scale: Everything comes down to lead generation, sales conversion, and customer retention. Brand drives multiples: A strong brand reputation can dramatically increase the price buyers are willing to pay. Good isn’t enough: To scale, you must be willing to break your own business model and reinvent before growth stalls. Lifestyle vs scale-up: Decide if you want comfort or if you want to build enterprise value – the identity shift matters. Health = wealth: Scaling is a full-contact sport – staying physically and mentally fit is essential for resilience. Think global, not local: UK entrepreneurs must widen their horizons to capture true market scale. About Andrew Scott Andrew Scott is the founder and CEO of the Ascot Group and a portfolio of multimillion-pound businesses across marketing, tech, media, home improvement, and property. He is best known for creating Business Leader magazine, which he scaled into the UK’s leading media brand for entrepreneurs before selling it to billionaire investor Richard Harpin. A true self-made entrepreneur, Andrew arrived in the UK at 18 with no money and no qualifications, but went on to build and sell multiple companies while mentoring business leaders and speaking internationally. His upcoming book, Imposter Millionaire, shares his journey from setbacks and adversity to building enduring business success. Resources & Links Connect with Andrew Scott on LinkedIn — Andrew Scott | LinkedIn Learn more about the Ascot Group — ascotgroup.co.uk Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down 3 specific strategies from this episode you will apply in the next 72 hours. Think Bigger: Want to increase your company valuation or prepare for exit? Download free resources at paulavins.com. Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life! 📘Watch out for Andrew’s new book → Imposter Millionaire (coming soon)
Building a Category King: Strategies for Scaling Your Business13 May 202501:30:57
What does it take to turn one product into an 8‑figure global brand and become a category king? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins talks to Paul Sherratt, founder of gloveglu, about how he scaled from a kitchen‑table side business to a dominant global brand now selling in 55 countries. At 50 years old, Paul made the decision to go all in, remortgaging his house to chase a vision. Today, gloveglu is the category leader in a niche most people ignored. Paul Sherratt is the founder of gloveglu, a global soccer brand that started with a single glove grip spray for goalkeepers. He has built the business past 8 figures in revenue, developed a global distribution network, and grown a community of over 1.3 million social followers. He has also created the FIND IT Framework to help founders identify, claim and dominate their categories, and is building a goalkeeper education and training business alongside his brand. Key Takeaways The FIND IT Framework: Frame, Identify, Niche, Differentiate, Innovate, Test. Why narrowing focus creates faster growth than chasing broad markets. The mindset shift at age 50 that changed everything. Critical hires and systems that took gloveglu from £500k to multi‑millions. How TikTok and YouTube became powerful scale engines. Leadership lessons from handling the sudden loss of a team member. The difference between running a business and building a grown up business with systems and scalability. About Paul Sherratt Paul Sherratt is a sports entrepreneur and the founder of gloveglu, an 8‑figure global brand in the goalkeeper market. Starting with one product, Paul has built a category‑dominating business sold in more than 55 countries, backed by a large online following. He is also developing a worldwide goalkeeper education platform and launching the Find the Gap Podcast to help other founders leverage category creation. Resources & Links Connect with Paul Sherratt on LinkedIn — linkedin.com Learn more about gloveglyu — gloveglue Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Thinking about scaling your business — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
Transforming Time into Assets: The Million-Pound LinkedIn Strategy08 May 202501:28:48
There’s an epidemic of short-term thinking right now on LinkedIn and it’s killing people’s chances of actually building networks that create long-term value. In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul sits down with Mike Jones, CEO of Beep2B and one of the UK’s leading experts in LinkedIn social selling. Mike has generated over £100 million in revenue for himself, his clients and partners in the last 15 years using LinkedIn as a platform for relationship-led growth, not spam tactics. Together, Paul and Mike pull back the curtain on what really works right now on LinkedIn and why most of the training and cold-message “hacks” out there are complete rubbish. If LinkedIn is already part of your marketing (or you know it needs to be), this episode will give you the strategic framework to turn it into seven figures of opportunity. Key Takeaways The 7 behaviours every entrepreneur must master to generate seven figures on LinkedIn How to build long-term asset value in your network instead of chasing short-term metrics Why sending “spray and pray” spam messages kills your brand — and what to do instead The role of AI and automation in outreach (and where it undermines trust) Why trust-based conversations and hand-raiser questions will always outperform pitch-heavy DMs How treating your network as a strategic investment compounds into opportunities years later About Mike Jones Mike Jones is the CEO of Beep2B, a LinkedIn marketing productivity company helping world-class businesses grow faster through authentic digital relationships. He combines tactics, training and technology to free up leaders from wasting time on LinkedIn and instead give them a consistent pipeline of inbound leads, strategic partnerships and high-value opportunities. Resources & Links Connect with Mike Jones on LinkedIn — Mike Jones | LinkedIn Learn more about Beep2b — B2B Marketing & Lead Generation - Beep2B Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Thinking about scaling your business — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter
Unlocking Business Potential: The 10X Mindset08 May 202501:17:56
What does it really take to grow a business from a side‑hustle into a multi‑million‑pound, award‑winning brand? In this episode, Paul Avins talks to Sheena Marsh, founder of Oxford Garden Design and RHS Gold Medal winning garden designer, about her journey from the classroom to building one of the UK’s top garden design companies. Sheena shares her honest story of overcoming bullying, facing financial fears, and making the terrifying leap from solopreneur to CEO. Today, her company turns over more than £2 million a year, employs 30+ people, and works with dream clients creating beautiful, wildlife‑friendly gardens. Whether you run a service business, a creative brand, or you’re ready to scale past seven figures, Sheena’s story is packed with lessons on leadership, focus and resilience. Key Takeaways Why the hardest moment of Sheena’s career became the foundation of her success The identity shift of hiring employee number one — and why it changed everything The danger of chasing money over alignment (and the costly mistake it caused) How to say no to the wrong clients so you can attract the right ones Why a predictable business is better than an exciting one if you want freedom The power of pruning — how to cut back distractions, people and products to grow stronger Why financial dashboards and a CFO are essential once you pass seven figures How passion fuels profit — and why your energy disappears if your heart isn’t in it The branding impact of winning high‑profile awards like RHS Gold and People’s Choice About Sheena Marsh Sheena Marsh is the Founder of Oxford Garden Design, one of the UK’s leading garden design and landscaping companies. Starting her career as a teacher, Sheena took the bold leap into entrepreneurship after adversity pushed her to follow her passion for gardens and design. Over the last 20 years, she has transformed Oxford Garden Design from a small solo venture into a multi‑million‑pound business with over 30 employees, delivering award‑winning garden and landscape projects across the UK. Sheena is also a Royal Horticultural Society (RHS) Gold Medal Winner, and her company won the coveted People’s Choice Award at RHS Malvern, making history by taking home four awards for a single show garden. Today, Sheena is recognised not only for her stunning designs, but also for her leadership in running a true “grown‑up business” — one that’s predictable, profitable and no longer depends on her day‑to‑day presence. Beyond business, Sheena is on a mission to educate homeowners on how simple changes in their gardens can help wildlife and biodiversity thrive. Resources & Links Connect with Sheena Marsh on LinkedIn — linkedin.com Learn more about Oxford Garden Design — Oxford Garden Design Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Want to grow your business to the next level — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
From Survival to Scale Up - How to Build your Wealth and Not Sabotage your Health08 May 202501:36:17
From Burnout to Breakthrough: Health, AI, and Becoming a Scale Up CEO In this powerful episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Carly Meyers, Founder & CEO of Made For More AI, to explore the critical link between entrepreneurial health, automation, and sustainable business growth. Together, they unpack the harsh truth most business owners ignore: Too many entrepreneurs trade their health today for wealth tomorrow, only to pay the price later in burnout, breakdown, or business stagnation. Paul shares his own high-stakes health crisis that forced him to confront this very mindset, while Carly talks about how building automated systems not only saves time but can also free up entrepreneurs from the constant firefighting trap, giving them space to take care of themselves and focus on high-level growth. At the heart of this discussion is a game-changing message: in order to scale to 7 and 8 figures, entrepreneurs must evolve beyond being “operators” and fully embrace the identity of a true Scale Up CEO. With raw honesty and practical insight, Paul and Carly challenge the old narratives of hustle culture and provide a refreshing reminder that health and business are not mutually exclusive—they are deeply intertwined. Key Takeaways The pivotal transition from being an operator to adopting the identity of a Scale Up CEO is non-negotiable for sustainable growth. Health isn’t a “someday fix”—entrepreneurs must invest in it now to avoid burnout and build longevity. Immersive environments like retreats and summits create the breakthroughs that can save you years of wasted time. A supportive peer network is a secret weapon against the isolation and self-doubt of entrepreneurship. True success in business is not just financial but also about quality of life, energy, and long-term fulfilment. About Carly Meyers Carly Meyers is the Founder & CEO of Made For More AI, an innovative consultancy helping service-based businesses harness the power of AI and automation to streamline operations, reclaim their time, and scale profitably. Often described as an AI Growth Architect, Carly has a rare gift for simplifying complex technology so that even the most non-technical entrepreneur can implement it with confidence. Her frameworks have helped founders transform clunky manual processes into scalable, systemised growth engines, freeing them to focus on strategy, impact, and revenue. Carly’s entrepreneurial journey has been fuelled by one core belief: you don’t have to sacrifice health, family, or freedom to grow a thriving business. A sought-after business coach and keynote speaker, she regularly shares the mindset shifts and automation strategies that allow entrepreneurs to build businesses that are both profitable and sustainable. Resources & Links Connect with Carly Meyers on LinkedIn — Carly Meyers | LinkedIn Learn more about Carly — Carly Meyers - AI Growth Architect Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Thinking about scaling your business — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter
Attract the Right People to Grow Your Business06 Dec 202400:53:23

How to Build and Leverage a High-Performing Team for Business Growth

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins shares his recent experiences, including mastermind sessions and preparing for the Grown Up Business Awards. He presents an insightful interview with Michelle Cairns from Your Property Podcast, where they discuss the importance of building the right team to scale your business. Paul dives into the specific roles and energies needed at different growth stages, the value of consistent action, and reveals tips for effective networking and team-building. The episode includes strategies for recruiting talent and leveraging technology for productivity and concludes with an invitation to a free training on using team and tech to scale your business.

00:00 Welcome to the Grown Up Business Podcast

00:04 Year-End Masterminds and Awards

00:43 Interview Introduction: Michelle Cairns

00:58 The Importance of Team for Business Growth

02:56 Paul Avins' Coaching Journey

08:16 The Power of Consistent Action

14:46 Setting Big Goals and Intentions

24:30 Building a Successful Team

28:18 Buying Back Your Time

28:21 Finance and Bookkeeping

28:39 Digital Marketing and Branding

28:55 Recruitment Strategy

30:36 Understanding Your Profile

31:00 Building the Right Team

32:11 CEO Mindset

33:05 Prioritizing Tasks

34:40 Networking Strategies

36:21 Effective Networking Tips

47:06 Consistency and Clarity in Networking

48:00 Current Projects and Future Plans

50:52 Final Thoughts and Resources

The Power of Physical Intelligence: Unlocking Peak Performance with Kevin Chapman14 Nov 202401:22:07

In this episode of the Grownup Business Podcast, Paul Evans sits down with Kevin Chapman, a renowned executive and performance coach, and co-founder of the Physical Intelligence Institute. The discussion dives into how entrepreneurs can unlock their peak performance by tapping into their physical intelligence. From managing performance anxiety to understanding the role of neurochemistry in emotional states, this episode provides actionable insights for balancing work and life through strategic state management. Kevin shares practical tools such as breathwork, dynamic movement, and cognitive flexibility, emphasizing the critical role of physical intelligence in overall success. Perfect for entrepreneurs looking to enhance their performance, manage stress, and maintain successful relationships both at work and home.

00:00 Introduction to the Grownup Business Podcast

01:02 Meet Kevin Chapman: Executive and Performance Coach

02:44 Understanding Physical Intelligence

04:46 Managing Performance Anxiety

06:56 The Power of Breathwork

27:03 The Role of Serotonin and Gut Health

37:29 Balancing Health and Entrepreneurship

40:13 The Entrepreneur's Genetic Drive

40:38 The Importance of Recovery

41:13 Dopamine and Entrepreneurial Behavior

43:33 Celebrating Wins and Building Trust

45:19 Balancing Speed and Pace

48:50 The Power of Vulnerability

01:01:08 The Role of Physical Intelligence

01:07:42 Practical Tips for Entrepreneurs

Managing Change and Uncertainty: Insights from Professor Paul McGee06 Nov 202401:10:16

Navigating Uncertainty: Insights from Paul McGee on Adaptability and Resilience

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul welcomes Professor Paul McGee, the author, motivational speaker, and known as the Mancunian motivator. The episode dives into crucial topics relevant to individuals and teams facing rapid change and uncertainty. McGee shares his personal journey, overcoming chronic fatigue syndrome, and evolving into a successful entrepreneur and bestseller of 13 books with an engaging concept called Sumo (Shut Up and Move On). The discussion explores managing mental resilience, coping with disappointment, and staying solution-focused. Key takeaways include McGee's seven essential questions for navigating challenges effectively, the importance of acknowledging and balancing emotional responses, and the power of reflection in improving responses to business and personal adversities. This episode aims to inspire, equip, and empower listeners to create better futures for themselves, their teams, and their customers.


00:00 Introduction to the Grown-Up Business Podcast

00:51 Meet Professor Paul McGee

01:46 Paul McGee's Journey: From Illness to Entrepreneurship

03:34 Overcoming Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

11:26 The Birth of Sumo: Shut Up and Move On

15:08 Navigating Rejection and Finding Success

27:04 The Power of Hippo Time

36:24 The Healing Power of Support

37:38 Showing Up When It Matters Most

40:47 The Importance of Reflection

42:12 Understanding Your Brain's Response

45:35 The Seven Questions for Solution-Focused Thinking

49:47 Applying Lessons in Business and Life

01:05:10 The Power of Positivity and Mindset

01:08:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

EMERGENCY EPISODE: The Budget Debrief & Q&A with Jeff Lermer01 Nov 202400:59:23

The 2025 Budget Briefing, also recorded for a podcast, led by Jeff and his colleague, detailed the recent UK budget's implications on businesses and entrepreneurs. Jeff, a seasoned tax accountant with over 15 years of experience, provided insights into the extensive budget, highlighting key changes and their effects on business operations. Major points included significant increases in minimum wage and national insurance, affecting employer costs; changes to the employment allowance; and the importance of strategic planning around employee benefits and tax-efficient structures such as LLPs and EOTs. Jeff also covered the new capital gains tax rates, adjustments to reliefs, inheritance tax updates, the importance of timely planning, and the changing landscape for non-DOM rules and pension funds. Emphasis was placed on the need for businesses to plan for increased costs and consider productivity improvements and strategic tax planning to mitigate the impacts.

The Sleep Hack That Builds Seven-Figure Businesses: How Entrepreneurs Can Scale Faster with Better Rest18 Oct 202501:17:18
What if the secret to scaling your business isn't working more hours — but sleeping better ones? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, business strategist Paul Avins sits down with Sammy Margo, chartered physiotherapist, bestselling author of "The Good Sleep Guide", and founder of SmartPhysio — a successful 27-person physiotherapy practice in London. Discover how Sammy went from working 15-hour days as the first female physiotherapist in professional football to building a thriving healthcare business while mastering the science of sleep optimization. This conversation reveals why sleep isn't a luxury for entrepreneurs — it's a strategic advantage. Together, Paul and Sammy unpack the 10 evidence-based sleep strategies that can transform your cognitive performance, decision-making ability, and business results. From sleep architecture and strategic wind-downs to bedroom optimization and caffeine timing, this episode provides practical tools for high-performing entrepreneurs who want to scale their businesses without sacrificing their health. If you're a business owner struggling with fatigue, making poor decisions due to sleep deprivation, or wondering how to maintain peak performance while scaling, this episode is essential listening. Key Takeaways How sleep quality directly impacts entrepreneurial performance and business decision-making The 10 strategic sleep optimization techniques every CEO should master for peak cognitive function Why tracking your "sleep architecture" with wearables can unlock better business performance How to create a strategic wind-down routine that transitions your brain from work mode to recovery Sleep cycle science: Why 4-6 complete 90-minute cycles are crucial for entrepreneurs The bedroom environment formula: Cool (16-18°C), dark, quiet, and clutter-free spaces for optimal rest Strategic caffeine and alcohol management to maximize sleep quality without sacrificing productivity How power napping strategies can boost afternoon performance for business leaders Why "lose the snooze" — and how the snooze button destroys sleep quality and morning productivity About Sammy Margo Sammy Margo is a chartered physiotherapist, sleep optimization expert, and founder of SmartPhysio, one of London's premier physiotherapy practices with 27 team members. She pioneered her field as the first female physiotherapist to work in professional football at Barnet FC, and has worked with elite athletes across the world. Sammy is the bestselling author of "The Good Sleep Guide" (featuring a foreword by celebrity chef Nigella Lawson), and regularly contributes sleep and wellness content to major UK publications including Daily Mail, Telegraph, and Observer. She has appeared on QVC, consulted for Dreams Beds, and speaks at high-level business events about the connection between sleep optimization and executive performance. Her expertise combines sports physiotherapy, sleep science, and business scaling — making her uniquely positioned to help entrepreneurs optimize their health while building successful companies. Resources & Links Get "The Good Sleep Guide" by Sammy Margo — Available on Amazon and all good bookstores Progressive Muscle Relaxation video by Sammy — PMR (Progressive Muscle Relaxation) Learn more about SmartPhysio — smartphysio.co.uk Connect with Sammy Margo on LinkedIn — linkedin.com/in/sammymargo Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 sleep habits from this episode you'll implement in the next 72 hours and test how they impact your performance. Think Bigger: Ready to treat sleep like the business asset it is? Start tracking your sleep data and building your strategic wind-down routine tonight. Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
AI vs Automation: Understanding the Difference with Paul McGillivray29 Oct 202401:19:35

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins engages in a deep conversation with Paul McGillivray about the importance of automation and technology in scaling businesses. They discuss the common fears entrepreneurs face when transitioning to new tech, the signs that indicate a business has outgrown its current systems, and the concept of fixed versus evolving systems.

Paul introduces his Scope framework, which helps business leaders strategise, clarify, and optimise their processes for better efficiency and growth. The conversation emphasises the need for a mindset shift from problem-solving to creation, encouraging entrepreneurs to view challenges as puzzles with solutions.

In this conversation, we discuss the importance of prototyping in business, the mindset required for CEOs, and the significance of patience and process in achieving long-term goals. Emphasising the need for lean methodologies and the role of innovation in scaling businesses. The discussion also covers overcoming team cynicism, the distinction between AI and automation, and the future of AI as a digital workforce that can enhance productivity without replacing human jobs.

Key Takeaways

  • Automation is key to scaling a business effectively.
  • Many entrepreneurs feel overwhelmed by technology and its potential.
  • Identifying bottlenecks in business processes is crucial for growth.
  • The fear of change often holds businesses back from adopting new tech.
  • Fixed systems can hinder a business's ability to evolve and grow.
  • Choosing the right tools should be based on the problems you need to solve.
  • A culture of change is essential for successful software adoption.
  • The theory of constraints can help identify and solve process issues.
  • Mapping out business processes can reveal areas for improvement.
  • The Scope framework provides a structured approach to business growth. Prototyping is essential for testing business systems.
  • Entrepreneurs often desire immediate results, which can lead to frustration.
  • Projects require time and patience to develop effectively.
  • Scope creep can derail project timelines and objectives.
  • A CEO must adopt a mindset focused on long-term value creation.
  • Innovation is crucial for business growth and adaptation.
  • Throwing more people at problems is often inefficient and costly.
  • AI can serve as a digital workforce, enhancing productivity.
  • Understanding the difference between AI and automation is vital for businesses.
  • Embracing AI tools can provide a competitive advantage in the market.

Sound Bites

  • "Software is turning the hustle and grind on its head."
  • "The longer you leave it, the more the problem is."
  • "What is the actual problem in the business?"
  • "The scope framework gives you that perspective."
  • "Switching from problem mindset to creation mindset."
  • "Prototyping is basically mocking up your system."
  • "Entrepreneurs want it all now."
  • "Projects take time, don't they?"
  • "That's project creep, really."
  • "The CEO mindset is about creating value over time."
  • "Innovation is key in business."
  • "Throwing people at problems is inefficient."
  • "AI is a digital workforce."
  • "AI isn't going to make people redundant."
  • "You're Batman, AI is Robin."

Chapters

00:00 Welcome to the Grown Up Business Podcast

02:09 The Journey of Automation and Tech in Business

04:37 Understanding the Need for Change in Tech

06:01 Overcoming Fears in Tech Transition

07:00 Identifying When You've Outgrown Your Tech

10:34 Fixed vs. Evolving Systems in Business

12:26 Choosing the Right Tools for Your Business

15:14 The Culture of Change in Software...

The 5 Biggest Mistakes Entrepreneurs & Investors Make that Kill Growth, Waste Time and Cost Money25 Oct 202401:14:24

Mastering Business Scaling: Strategy, Team Building, and Marketing Excellence

In this comprehensive episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Holmes uncovers critical strategies for scaling businesses effectively through acquisitions, strategic planning, and innovation. The episode dives into the importance of having a clear vision, leveraging technology, and building high-performing teams to navigate business challenges and opportunities. Listeners gain insights into the power of delegation, crafting irresistible marketing offers, and utilizing digital assets like video content to enhance credibility and growth. Real-world examples and practical advice highlight the significance of strategic investments, profiling for team effectiveness, and maintaining continuous innovation. Entrepreneurs are encouraged to join future boardroom sessions for deeper learning and to engage with the free 'Scale Up Saturday' newsletter for ongoing tips and insights.


00:00 Welcome to the Grown Up Business Podcast

00:33 Introduction to the Scale Up Masterclass

03:01 Paul's Background and Experience

07:32 The Importance of Strategy and Planning

09:53 Understanding the S Curve in Business

14:20 Building and Scaling Your Team

25:23 Leveraged Selling Systems and Technology

32:45 The Customer Journey and Marketing

36:02 The Power of Passion in Business

36:21 The Importance of Action in Transactions

37:01 Grabbing Attention in a Distracted World

40:08 Creating Compelling Offers

41:31 Building Trust with Guarantees

44:39 Adding Value and Avoiding Commoditization

49:41 The Role of Digital and Physical Assets

57:44 The Importance of Team Dynamics

01:05:17 Effective Recruitment Strategies

01:07:30 Planning Your Exit Strategy

01:10:47 Final Thoughts and Next Steps


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Navigating Change: Resilience in Uncertain Times with Sarah Furness & George Anderson03 Oct 202401:12:51

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins engages in a dynamic conversation with leadership experts George Anderson and Sarah Furness . They explore the multifaceted nature of leadership, emphasising the importance of resilience, effective communication, and the evolving role of leaders in modern business. The discussion covers practical strategies for delegation, the significance of feedback, and the necessity of self-compassion in leadership. The guests share personal experiences and insights, providing listeners with actionable takeaways to enhance their leadership skills and foster a high-performance culture within their teams.

Key Takeaways

  • Leadership is about doing uncomfortable things for a cause beyond your own.
  • Effective communication and understanding your team are crucial for leadership.
  • The language used around team members can impact team dynamics significantly.
  • Transitioning into a leadership role requires clear communication about changing relationships.
  • Delegation is essential for growth, but it requires trust and transparency.
  • Feedback should be a routine part of business operations for continuous improvement.
  • Resilience is not just about bouncing back; it's about managing daily stresses and changes.
  • Mindfulness and self-compassion are key to maintaining a positive mindset as a leader.
  • Physical energy management is foundational for effective leadership and resilience.
  • Creating a culture of reflection and learning from experiences is vital for growth.

Sound Bites

  • "If you don't become a better leader, it's hard to attract talent."
  • "Leadership is doing uncomfortable things for a cause beyond your own."
  • "The language you use around your team is critically important."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Leadership Insights

02:57 Defining Leadership

05:57 The Importance of Team Dynamics

08:48 Transitioning into Leadership Roles

12:04 Delegation and Trust in Leadership

14:54 Feedback and Continuous Improvement

17:49 Resilience in Leadership

20:59 Mindfulness and Self-Compassion

23:48 The Role of Energy in Leadership

26:59 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways

Scaling to Seven Figures: Proven Strategies for Entrepreneurs with Paul Avins25 Sep 202400:54:33

In this episode of The Grownup Business Podcast, host Paul Avins shares expert insights on how serious entrepreneurs can level up their leadership, transform their teams, and scale sales to seven figures and beyond. The episode features a unique interview between Paul Avins and Graham McGregor, wherein Paul discusses actionable strategies and tips on identifying your dream customer avatar, creating irresistible offers, and implementing effective sales systems. Highlighted are real-world examples from diverse industries showing the application of these strategies. Paul emphasises the importance of focusing on physical and mental health for sustained success. He concludes with practical steps to turn insights into action and encourages listeners to engage and share their experiences.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

01:38 Interview with Graham McGregor Begins

01:55 Paul Avins' Business Background

03:54 Step 1: Identifying Your Ideal Customer

11:00 Examples of Ideal Customer Identification

15:25 Step 2: Crafting Irresistible Offers

25:23 High Margin Product Discounts

25:39 The Smile for Life Club Success

26:25 Three Key Offers for Scaling

27:25 Testing Offers with AI

29:29 The Importance of a Selling System

34:47 Creating a Community Through Events

42:39 Final Thoughts and Next Steps


Scaling a Business and Leadership Growth with Simon Leslie18 Sep 202401:04:29

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Simon Leslie, a serial entrepreneur with decades of experience in growing businesses. Simon shares his insights into what it takes to scale a business to new heights, navigate the various phases of business growth, and evolve as a leader along the way.

Key Themes Discussed:
  1. The Evolution of a Business: Simon compares business growth to human development, explaining how businesses go through stages similar to adolescence. He discusses the responsibilities that come with scaling up and the moment when a business must decide to remain small or grow bigger.
  2. Delegating and Trust: As businesses scale, the need to delegate and trust others becomes crucial. Simon emphasizes the challenge of letting go and allowing others to take on responsibilities, even if they don't do things exactly as the founder would.
  3. The Importance of Professional Growth: The episode explores the transition from a "scrappy" startup to a more professional organization. Simon discusses when and why to implement formal processes like HR and how these changes impact business culture and dynamics.
  4. Knowing When to Scale: Simon and Paul discuss the pivotal moments when a business must decide whether to stay small or push for growth. Simon shares his experience with expanding his business to global markets and the challenges that come with operating in different countries.
  5. Building High-Performing Teams: One of the key aspects of scaling a business is building a high-performing team. Simon talks about the importance of trust within an organization and how it can propel a business forward.

Quotes from the Episode:
  • Paul Avins: "If you can't build a team, you can't live the dream."
  • Simon Leslie: "A grown-up business is one that's full of problems and full of opportunities."

Key Themes Discussed:

[00:00:01] Setting the stage for an insightful conversation about building and scaling a global brand.

[00:02:36] Defining a Grown-Up Business

[00:04:45] The Beginnings of an Entrepreneur: Simon shares his early experiences

[00:07:04] Scaling Up and Leadership Evolution.

[00:09:26] Embracing Professionalism in Business

[00:11:48] The Challenges of Growth and Staying Small

[00:14:07] Global Expansion and Cultural Nuances

[00:18:54] The Philosophy of Selling and Building Relationships

[00:25:48] Persistence and Playing the Long Game

[00:32:53] Buying a Football Club and Making a Difference

[00:37:31] Vision for the Future and Community Impact

[00:44:34] Lessons Learned from Selling a Business

[00:51:34] The Dash to the Finish – Life's Journey

[01:00:41] Wrapping Up and Key Takeaways

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Exiting the Business: The Grown-Up Entrepreneur’s Journey with Simon Morton10 Sep 202401:33:28

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins sits down with Simon Morton, founder of Eyeful Presentations, to discuss the emotional and strategic journey of exiting a business. After building a multimillion-pound company from scratch, Simon shares the pivotal moment when he decided to transition from owner to benefactor by selling his company through an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT).

The conversation delves deep into the complexities of letting go, preparing the right leadership team, and leaving a lasting legacy. Simon offers invaluable insights for entrepreneurs who are contemplating their own exit strategies, including why he chose an EOT over traditional exit options like a trade sale. For business owners considering their future, this episode is full of practical advice and reflections on the personal side of stepping away from a company you’ve nurtured for years.

Key Discussion Points:
  • From Founder to Benefactor: Simon discusses his decision to sell his business through an EOT, enabling his team to take ownership while ensuring the legacy and culture of Eyeful Presentations would continue.
  • The Emotional Toll of Exiting: Learn how Simon managed the personal and emotional aspects of leaving the business he built over 18 years, and why it was important to time his exit correctly.
  • Building a Legacy: Simon shares how his focus on team building and leadership development allowed him to confidently hand over the reins, ensuring that the company would continue to grow after his departure.
  • Choosing the Right Exit Strategy: Hear why Simon rejected the idea of a trade sale and how the EOT structure aligned with his values of fairness, legacy, and future growth.

Quotes:

Paul Avins:

  1. “I think one of the biggest questions for entrepreneurs is: ‘When do you know it’s time to step away, and how do you ensure the business thrives without you?’”
  2. “The legacy you’ve built with your team is incredible. It’s not just about growing a business but growing the people within it.”

Simon Morton:

  1. “The hardest part wasn’t making the decision to sell, it was realising that my chapter in the company was over and being at peace with it.”
  2. “Employee Ownership Trusts aren’t just a financial transaction; they’re about giving the business back to the people who made it what it is.”

To learn more about Simon Morton's book, The Guide to Transitioning from Boss to Benefactor, and discover whether an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT) is the right exit strategy for your business, follow Simon on LinkedIn for updates and insights.

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Efficiency vs. Effectiveness: Doing the Right Things to Scale UP with Pete Wilkinson03 Sep 202400:52:33

In this episode, Paul Avins interviews Pete Wilkinson, author of the book 'Unstoppable' and creator of the 135 system. They discuss the importance of strategy, clear outcomes, and leading indicators in business success. Pete explains that strategy is about figuring out what to do with limited resources and unlimited opportunities. He emphasizes the need for clear outcomes and alignment within the team, as well as the importance of measuring and tracking leading indicators to predict and improve lagging indicators. Pete also highlights the significance of training and developing the team to ensure successful execution of the strategy. The conversation explores the concept of the one-three-five method and its application in business and endurance sports. The one-three-five method focuses on three main objectives: strategy, operations, and people. It emphasizes the importance of simplicity, balance, and focus in achieving goals. The conversation also touches on the significance of vision and mission in goal-setting, the role of values in business planning, and the parallels between business and endurance sports. The guest, Pete Wilkinson, shares insights on the Reclaro software and how it helps individuals and organizations implement the one-three-five method.

Takeaways

  • Strategy is about figuring out what to do with limited resources and unlimited opportunities.
  • Clear outcomes and alignment within the team are crucial for successful execution of the strategy.
  • Measuring and tracking leading indicators is essential to predict and improve lagging indicators.
  • Investing in training and developing the team is key to business success. The one-three-five method focuses on three main objectives: strategy, operations, and people.
  • Simplicity, balance, and focus are key to achieving goals.
  • Vision is the long-term ambition, while mission is the next mountain to climb.
  • Values and mission should be aligned with the one-three-five objectives.
  • Business is an endurance sport that requires energy, focus, and regular breaks.
  • Efficiency is doing things right, while effectiveness is doing the right things.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

02:51 Unleashing the Power of Strategy

09:30 The Importance of Clear Outcomes and Alignment

13:49 Measuring and Tracking Leading Indicators

23:43 Investing in Training and Development

26:25 The One-Three-Five Method

28:23 Vision vs. Mission

30:47 The Importance of Focus

33:37 Efficiency vs. Effectiveness

45:22 Business as an Endurance Sport

The Impact of AI on Marketing: Automation vs. Augmentation in Business27 Aug 202401:04:16

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins interviews Barnaby Wynter, a renowned marketer and brand strategist. They discuss the importance of marketing in today's business landscape and how it has evolved over the years. They also delve into the concept of personal branding and its role in business growth.

Barnaby shares insights on creating a value proposition and defining the behavioural style, benefits, beliefs, and what you want to be famous for in your business. He emphasises the need to understand your target market and build relationships based on trust and resonance.

In this conversation, Paul Avins and Barnaby Winter discuss the importance of branding and marketing in building a successful business. They explore topics such as the value of brand on a balance sheet, the impact of AI on marketing, and the role of automation and augmentation in business. They emphasise the need for clear strategy, a strong value proposition, and the importance of building relationships with customers. The conversation provides valuable insights for entrepreneurs looking to scale their businesses and create a go-to brand.

Ket Takeaways

  • Marketing is now the lead discipline in businesses, focusing on bringing the buyer into the boardroom.
  • A brand is every experience that affects the relationship between a product or service and its buyer.
  • Personal branding is important for individuals who are the face of their business, but it should not be the core of the value proposition.
  • A value proposition consists of defining the behavioural style, benefits, beliefs, and what you want to be famous for in your business.
  • Understanding your target market's attitudes, thoughts, and experiences is crucial for effective marketing.
  • Building relationships based on trust and resonance is key to successful marketing and business growth. Branding has value on a balance sheet and is an important asset when selling a business.
  • AI is becoming essential in marketing and can be used for tasks such as copywriting, creative development, image creation, and CRM.
  • Automation and augmentation are two strategies for using AI in business, with augmentation being the more valuable approach.
  • A strong value proposition and clear strategy are essential for successful branding and marketing.
  • Building relationships with customers is crucial for creating a go-to brand and attracting loyal customers.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Barnaby Winter

02:04 The Evolution of Marketing and its Importance in Business

08:09 Defining Your Value Proposition: Behavioural Style, Benefits, Beliefs, and Fame

13:53 The Role of Personal Branding in Business Growth

20:03 Understanding Your Target Market for Effective Marketing

25:29 Building Relationships Based on Trust and Resonance

32:34 The Value of Branding on a Balance Sheet

49:38 The Impact of AI on Marketing

53:09 Automation vs. Augmentation in Business

01:00:06 The Importance of a Strong Value Proposition

01:03:21 Building Relationships with Customers for a Go-To Brand

Creating a Morning Routine for Success and Well-being with Kat Thorne20 Aug 202400:57:14

Entrepreneurs often trade off their health and well-being for financial success. Guest, Kat Thorne, shares her personal story of nearly losing her life and how it led her to prioritise her health. The conversation emphasizes the importance of creating positive habits and having a strong why. It also discusses the disconnect between knowledge and action, and the need for a compelling vision to drive consistency. The hosts highlight the power of energy and the danger of conforming to societal expectations. They encourage listeners to surround themselves with supportive people and to be mindful of their own habits and mindset. In this conversation, they discuss the importance of incorporating positive habits into our daily routines to improve our performance and well-being. They emphasize the benefits of exercise, consuming positive information, and practicing gratitude. They also highlight the significance of having a morning and evening routine that supports rest and recovery. The conversation concludes with the recommendation to focus on one habit for 21 days and analyse its impact before making any changes.

Takeaways

Entrepreneurs often sacrifice their health and well-being for financial success, but health is the number one currency for success in entrepreneurship.

Creating positive habits and having a strong why are crucial for maintaining health and well-being.

There is a disconnect between knowledge and action, and it is important to bridge that gap by consistently applying knowledge.

Having a compelling vision for all aspects of life, including health, relationships, and business, is essential for staying motivated and consistent.

Surrounding oneself with supportive people and being mindful of habits and mindset are key to achieving success and happiness. Incorporating positive habits into our daily routines can have a significant impact on our performance and well-being.

Exercise, or movement, can boost confidence and have a positive impact on our business.

Consuming positive information, such as reading or listening to podcasts, can help counteract negative thoughts and reinforce positive thinking.

Having a morning routine that includes positive habits sets the tone for the day and supports overall well-being.

Creating an evening routine that promotes rest and relaxation is equally important for quality sleep and mental well-being.

Journaling and practicing gratitude can help manage thoughts and emotions, leading to improved mental health and overall happiness.

Chapters

00:00 The Danger of Trading Health for Financial Success

01:37 Creating Positive Habits and Finding Your Why

08:37 Bridging the Gap Between Knowledge and Action

10:06 The Power of a Compelling Vision

19:21 Surrounding Yourself with Supportive People

26:42 Mindfulness of Habits and Mindset

29:21 The Power of Positive Habits

34:09 The Importance of an Evening Routine

38:17 Reading and Infiltrating the Brain

41:23 Asking Your Brain a Question Before Sleep

45:07 Viewing Life as an Experiment

48:20 Business as a Game of Sport

51:59 Focus on One Habit for 21 Days

Getting People's Attention and Generating Sales with Liv Connlon14 Aug 202400:43:32

In this episode, Liv Connlon discusses the importance of building a personal brand and shares her strategies for success. She emphasizes the power of putting your face and name on your brand, as it creates a stronger connection with customers. Liv also talks about the platforms she chose to build her brand on, such as Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram. She highlights the importance of being authentic and relatable in your content, and shares her own experiences of starting out and evolving in her personal brand journey. Liv also discusses the benefits of writing a book and provides tips on how to approach the writing process. In this part of the conversation, Liv shares her experience of launching her book and the marketing strategies she used. She explains how she worked with a hybrid publisher and planned a launch campaign to promote her book. Liv also emphasizes the importance of having your own show, such as a podcast or YouTube channel, to build relationships and promote your work. She discusses the effectiveness of direct mail marketing and shares examples of successful direct mail campaigns she has run. Liv also briefly mentions the tech tools she uses in her business, including ClickUp, ClickFunnels, ActiveCampaign, and TeamUp. The conversation concludes with Liv answering questions from the audience about personal growth, getting help as an entrepreneur, and starting a charity.

Are you looking to build a powerful personal brand and elevate your business? Tune in to this episode with Liv Conlon, where she reveals her proven strategies for success. Learn how to put your face and name on your brand to create stronger connections with customers, choose the right platforms for your brand, and maintain authenticity and relatability in your content. Discover the benefits of writing a book, effective book launch strategies, and the power of having your own show. Plus, get insights into direct mail marketing, leveraging tech tools, and much more.

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Chapters

00:00 The Power of Building a Personal Brand

03:37 Putting Your Face and Name on Your Brand

04:32 Choosing the Right Platforms for Your Brand

07:24 Authenticity and Relatability in Building a Personal Brand

13:14 The Benefits of Writing a Book

17:46 Tips for Writing a Book

22:26 Launching a Book: Working with a Hybrid Publisher and Planning a Launch Campaign

24:52 The Power of Having Your Own Show: Building Relationships and Promoting Your Work

25:48 Direct Mail Marketing: Getting People's Attention and Generating Sales

28:19 Investing in Coaching and Mentorship: Learning from Both Successes and Failures

40:28 Starting a Charity: Making a Positive Impact and Changing Lives

Why Most CEOs Fail at Hiring (And How to Find Your Perfect COO)03 Oct 202501:37:14
What if the secret to scaling your business isn't working harder — but hiring smarter? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Graham Brown — former military medic turned recruitment expert with over 24 years of experience, author of the upcoming book Too Many Hats, and one of Team Purple's specialist coaches in team dynamics and executive search. Graham shares his remarkable journey from serving in the Gulf War as a trumpet-playing medic to building a 39-office recruitment franchise, surviving a painful business collapse, and emerging as one of the UK's leading experts in helping CEOs find their perfect second-in-command. Together, Paul and Graham unpack the brutal truth about why most CEOs fail at hiring, the three pillars of successful recruitment that most founders ignore, and why 50% employee engagement is costing your business hundreds of thousands in lost productivity. They dive deep into the seven types of COO, the difference between competency-based and traditional interviewing, and why understanding energy profiles is the unlock to building high-performing teams that scale. If you're a CEO drowning in operational work, struggling to find the right leadership team, or wondering how to hire someone who can actually take weight off your shoulders instead of adding to it, this conversation is essential listening. Key Takeaways From Gulf War medic to recruitment expert: How Graham's military background shaped his approach to building resilient, high-performing teams The brutal reality of franchising: Why Graham scaled to 39 offices before deciding to shut it down and start again The three pillars of successful hiring: Skills & ability, natural energy alignment, and culture & values fit — miss one and you've got a problem Why most CEOs aren't ready for an A-player — and how to know when you actually are The seven types of COO: Executor, Change Agent, Other Half, Mentor, Heir Apparent, MVP, and Partner — and how to choose the right one for your stage of growth Competency-based interviewing vs traditional interviewing: How to dig deeper and test for what really matters The 50% flow problem: Why half your team is operating at half capacity — and how that's costing you £600K+ per year in lost productivity Why talent acquisition should be treated like customer acquisition — with the same level of strategy, marketing, and investment The TEAM framework: Trust & Transparency, Empower & Energize, Alignment & Accountability, Measurement & Metrics, Safety & Security How to know if you need a COO, Chief of Staff, Operations Manager, or EA — and why hiring the wrong role at the wrong time can be a disaster About Graham Brown Graham Brown is a former military musician and medic who served in the Gulf War before transitioning into recruitment over 24 years ago. He founded the first ex-military recruitment agency in the UK in 2001 and has since helped over 10,000 service men and women transition into civilian careers. Graham built and scaled a recruitment franchise to 39 offices before navigating a painful business restructure that taught him invaluable lessons about resilience, team dynamics, and the importance of hiring right. He's now a specialist executive search consultant focusing on helping scale-up CEOs find their perfect COO or second-in-command. As one of Team Purple's expert coaches, Graham specializes in team dynamics, profiling, and leadership development. He's the author of the upcoming book Too Many Hats, which unpacks everything he's learned about helping CEOs escape operational overwhelm by building the right leadership team around them. Resources & Links Get free team dynamics resources → teamdynamics.com Download Graham's free e-books on recruitment, interviewing, and onboarding → teamdynamics.com Connect with Graham Brown on LinkedIn → Graham Brown | LinkedIn Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights → Paul Avins | LinkedIn Read Second in Command by Cameron Herold → Available on Amazon Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you'll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think Bigger: Ready to stop wearing too many hats and build the leadership team that sets you free? Download Graham's free hiring guides at teamdynamics.com Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
AI and Wealth Creation: Investing in the Future with Piers Linney07 Aug 202400:45:36

In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Scale UP Coach, Paul Avins interviews Piers Linney, a former dragon on BBC Two's Dragons' Den, about the power of AI and how to scale a business using AI. They discuss practical applications of AI, the potential for wealth creation, the future of AI regulation, and the importance of embracing and learning how to use AI technology. The conversation highlights the need for businesses and individuals to adapt to the changing landscape and leverage AI to stay competitive.

The conversation explores the potential impact of AI on various aspects of society and business. It discusses the reinvention of search and the potential decline of advertising due to AI advancements. It also highlights the shift in job markets, with AI potentially replacing high-paying professions and creating new opportunities for skill-based jobs. The conversation emphasises the need for businesses to embrace AI and identify areas where it can be implemented to automate tasks and improve efficiency. It also addresses the risks associated with AI, such as cybersecurity threats and the potential for misuse. Overall, the conversation encourages a proactive approach to AI adoption while also considering the ethical implications and ensuring the preservation of human experiences and fulfilment.

Takeaways

  • AI is a powerful tool that can help businesses scale and innovate, improve customer service, and empower teams.
  • Businesses need to embrace AI and learn how to use it effectively to stay competitive in the market.
  • Practical applications of AI include translation services, customer support, and data analysis.
  • The future of AI regulation is uncertain, but businesses should have policies and guidelines in place to ensure ethical and responsible use of AI.
  • AI has the potential to disrupt industries and create new opportunities for wealth creation. AI has the potential to reinvent search and disrupt the advertising industry.
  • The job market will undergo significant changes, with AI replacing high-paying professions and creating new opportunities for skill-based jobs.
  • Businesses should proactively embrace AI and identify areas where it can be implemented to automate tasks and improve efficiency.
  • There are risks associated with AI, such as cybersecurity threats and the potential for misuse.
  • It is important to consider the ethical implications of AI and ensure the preservation of human experiences and fulfilment.

Chapters

00:00 Meet Piers Linney

03:00 The Power of AI and Practical Applications

08:42 The Danger and Disruption of AI

12:00 The Future of Energy and Nuclear Fusion

15:23 Embracing AI to Add Value

17:02 The Importance of Learning and Embracing AI

21:11 The Future of the Internet and AI

23:03 The Reinvention of Search and the Decline of Advertising

24:00 The Changing Job Market: AI Replacing Professions and Creating New Opportunities

25:40 Embracing AI: Identifying Areas for Automation and Efficiency

32:19 The Risks of AI: Cybersecurity Threats and Misuse

41:37 Ethical Considerations: Preserving Human Experiences and Fulfilment

Using The Power of a Supportive Network to Scale with Terry Fisher29 Jul 202400:42:51

In this episode, Terry Fisher shares his experiences in the corporate world and as an angel investor. He discusses his time at Thomas Cook and the missed opportunity to buy the company. He also talks about his investment in a music app called Voicey and its eventual sale to Snapchat. Terry emphasizes the importance of having a clear exit strategy and surrounding yourself with supportive people during challenging times.

Chapters

00:00 Navigating the Corporate World

11:36 Missed Opportunities and Billion Pound Potential

18:04 Learning from Failure and Building a Supportive Network

23:23 Investing in a Music App and the Power of Timing

29:26 Selling the Music App and Looking to the Future

37:32 The Future of the Travel Industry and Personal Branding

Executing with Excellence with Gerald Ratner23 Jul 202400:37:26

Gerald Ratner, former CEO of Ratners Group, shares his experiences in business and the lessons he learned from his successes and failures. He discusses the importance of acquisitions in scaling a business and the value of key individuals. Ratner also talks about the expansion into the American market and the strategies he used to succeed. He shares his insights on pricing, customer knowledge, and the power of execution. Despite facing backlash and criticism, Ratner remains resilient and focused on his goals.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

00:41 The Acquisition Route

03:30 Expanding into America

11:38 Innovative Pricing Strategies

16:52 The Success of Rolex

19:44 Inspiration and Mentoring

23:37 Building a Business Strategy

25:28 Dealing with Criticism

28:18 Taking Action and Moving Forward

33:02 Overcoming Challenges

36:54 Conclusion

Scaling a Business Successfully with Matthew Mills15 Jul 202400:43:04

In this insightful episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, host Paul Avins sits down with Matthew Mills, the Chief Commercial Officer of The CFO Centre. They dive into the intricacies of scaling a business, highlighting the crucial role of financial visibility and cash flow management. Matthew shares valuable insights from his experience at The CFO Centre, discussing how fractional CFOs can significantly contribute to the growth journey of startups and scaling businesses.

Themes Discussed:

1. The Role of a Fractional CFO in Scaling:

- Strategic Financial Management: Learn how fractional CFOs provide strategic financial insights, driving business strategy and growth.

- Case Studies: Matthew shares success stories where fractional CFOs have helped businesses double their revenue and optimize financial operations.

2. Importance of Financial Visibility:

- Cash Flow Management: Understand why having a clear view of your cash flow is vital for scaling and how to achieve it.

- Financial Reporting: Discover the key financial reports every scaling business needs to monitor for informed decision-making.

3. Achieving Scalability:

- Operational Efficiency: Explore how fractional CFOs mentor internal teams to enhance operational efficiency and maximize the finance function.

- Strategic Planning: Learn the importance of having a scalable business model and the role of strategic planning in achieving long-term growth.

Quotes:

Paul Avins:

- "Data drives decisions. As I'm scaling a business, it's crucial to focus on profitability and cash management to ensure sustainable growth."

- "A grown-up business has a clear vision, a great team, and a sales engine that scales without the constant need for the owner's presence."

Matthew Mills:

- "Having someone who's been there, seen it, and done it can really add value, especially in conversations with funders or during potential exits."

- "Most business owners didn't start their business to face off with HMRC or deal with spreadsheets. They need a professional who can take over the financial management."


Paul Avins:

- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulavins/)

-Twitter](https://twitter.com/paulavins)

Matthew Mills:

- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-mills-8780981ab/)

The Impact of a Labour Government on Scaling Entrepreneurs08 Jul 202401:06:40

In this episode of the Grown Up Business podcast, Coach Paul Avins discusses how entrepreneurs can adapt to and navigate through changes in the business landscape. They explore the impact of political and regulatory changes, such as the recent UK election, on businesses and entrepreneurs.

With guests, Guy Bartlett and Jeff Lermer, they also discuss the importance of staying ahead of consumer trends and adapting business models accordingly. The trio emphasise the need for entrepreneurs to have a long-term perspective and to be open-minded and flexible when facing change.

They also discuss the potential opportunities and challenges that may arise under a Labour government, including changes in tax policies and employment regulations. Discussing the opportunities and challenges facing businesses in the UK. They touch on topics such as tax legislation, payment terms for SMEs, the impact of AI, and the importance of strategic planning. They emphasise the need for businesses to adapt to change, surround themselves with a supportive community, and focus on de-risking and maximizing opportunities. Highlighting the value of proactive accounting and the importance of understanding one's motivations for selling a business. Overall, the conversation provides valuable insights for entrepreneurs looking to navigate the changing business landscape.

Takeaways

  • Entrepreneurs need to be adaptable and willing to change their business models in response to political, regulatory, and technological changes.
  • Having a long-term perspective and staying ahead of consumer trends is crucial for staying relevant as a business.
  • When facing change, it is important to not panic and to approach it with an open mind and flexibility.
  • Under a Labour government, there may be changes in tax policies and employment regulations, which entrepreneurs need to be aware of and adapt to.
  • Opportunities may arise in industries such as housing and AI, but it is important to consider the potential impact of changes in regulations and costs. Payment terms for SMEs can be a major challenge, with corporates often imposing long payment periods that can cripple cash flow.
  • Adapting to change and embracing new technologies, such as AI, can help businesses stay competitive and productive.
  • Strategic planning is crucial, especially in times of uncertainty, to identify opportunities and align business models with changing market conditions.
  • Surrounding yourself with a supportive community and seeking advice from experts can provide valuable insights and help navigate challenges.
  • Understanding motivations for selling a business and de-risking strategies are important considerations for entrepreneurs.
  • Proactive accounting and staying informed about tax legislation can help businesses optimize their financial position and minimize tax liabilities.

Sound Bites

  • "The ability to adapt, pivot and evolve your business model."
  • "It's not personal. There's a reason, don't know what the reason is, there's a change that's make it, let's make that happen."
  • "Control the controllables."
  • "If you're a small business scaling, that kind of contract cripples your cashflow and can cause all kinds of issues."
  • "It's a people business, right? It doesn't matter how big the company is."
  • "The gift at the moment and the opportunity is it's the middle of the year. This is a perfect time to sit down and do another strategic plan."

Chapters

00:00 A New Dawn: Love it or hate it - Labour is in!

03:22 Adapting to Change and Staying Relevant

08:03 Approaching Change and Tax Policy

14:59 Handling Change in Business and Personal Life

29:30 Opportunities and Challenges in the Changing Landscape

34:15 Payment Terms and Cash Flow Challenges for...

Building and Leveraging Personal Brand with Chris James05 Jul 202400:51:02

In this episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, host Paul Avins welcomes Chris James, a prominent figure in the realm of personal branding and digital marketing.

They dive deep into the significance of building and leveraging a personal brand in today's business landscape. Chris shares his journey from starting in sales to becoming a key influencer and speaker, emphasizing the transformative power of a strong personal brand.

Key Takeaways:

1. Importance of Personal Branding:   - Chris discusses

how a well-crafted personal brand can distinguish you in a crowded market. He

highlights the journey of influential figures like Elon Musk and Lionel Messi,

showing how personal branding can surpass corporate branding in impact.

  

2. Steps to Build a Personal Brand:   - Chris outlines actionable steps to develop a personal brand, including consistency in content creation, authenticity, and engagement with your audience. He stresses the importance of portraying your true self and sharing your unique story.

3. Leveraging Social Media Platforms:   - A significant portion of the conversation revolves around LinkedIn. Chris explains why LinkedIn is an underrated platform and how it can be a goldmine for professionals looking to build their personal brand and network effectively.

  

4. Challenges and Overcoming Them:  - Chris opens up about the challenges he faced in his career, from making cold calls to transitioning into digital advertising. He shares valuable lessons on resilience and the importance of not normalizing hardships.

Quotes:

- "When you put your personal brand out there, it becomes a lot more relatable than just a business logo." – Chris James

- "If you can't get excited about having a conversation, we probably shouldn't have a conversation." – Paul Avins


- "Personal branding is like an insurance policy; it makes you more desirable as a person and the company you are attached to." – Chris James


- "Don't normalize hardships. What you tolerate, you tend to keep attracting." – Paul Avins


Follow Paul on Social Media:

- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulavins/)


- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/paulavins/)


Connect with Chris James and learn more about personal

branding and digital marketing:


- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjames)


- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/chrisjames)

Overcoming Sales Challenges with David Angel01 Jul 202400:27:42

In this episode of The Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins sits down with sales expert David Angel to delve into the common challenges businesses face in their sales processes and how to overcome them.

David brings his wealth of experience in helping entrepreneurs scale their sales and build effective sales teams. The discussion focuses on the pitfalls of relying too heavily on salespeople without having robust systems and processes in place, the importance of continuous training, and actionable strategies to enhance sales performance.

1. Challenges in Sales and Solutions:

- Identifying the pitfalls of over-reliance on individual salespeople.

- Importance of having structured systems and processes to support sales teams.

- Strategies to ensure sales processes are scalable and repeatable.

2. Importance of Continuous Training:

- How ongoing training helps maintain and improve sales skills.

- The role of training in preventing skill erosion and keeping the team sharp.

- Examples of effective training practices and how to implement them.

3. Building a Resilient Sales Team:

- Characteristics of a successful salesperson and how to identify them during recruitment.

- The significance of onboarding and ongoing support for new sales hires.

- Tips on creating a supportive environment that fosters continuous improvement and resilience.

Quotes:

- Paul Avins: "When we start out, we sell the way that we feel comfortable selling rather than the way necessarily people wanna buy. Understanding different buying energies is crucial."

- Paul Avins: "One of the biggest mistakes people make with salespeople is they don't onboard them very well. They spend all this time and money hiring and then just expect them to impress without any proper training."

- David Angel: "Most business owners sell the way they like to buy, not based on the way their clients would like to buy. Adjusting to the client's buying preferences is key to improving sales."

- David Angel: "Sales isn't an eroding skill. Like going to the gym to maintain muscles, continuous training is essential to keep sales skills sharp and effective."

Connect with us on social media:

Paul Avins:

- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulavins/)

-Twitter](https://twitter.com/paulavins)


David Angel:

-[LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidangel/)

-[Twitter](https://twitter.com/davidangel)

Cash Flow Challenges and Solutions for Small Businesses with Jamie Beaumont28 Jun 202400:50:45

In this insightful episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, host Paul Avins sits down with Jamie Beaumont, the CEO of Playter, a company revolutionizing the way small businesses manage their cash flow. Jamie shares his journey from the recruitment industry to founding Playter, highlighting the challenges and solutions small businesses face when dealing with cash flow issues.

The conversation dives deep into the common cash flow problems that many entrepreneurs encounter, such as late invoice payments and difficulties in securing funding from traditional banks. Jamie discusses how Plata's innovative financial solutions are designed to help businesses pay their bills later and get paid faster, thereby easing the cash flow crunch.

Whether you’re a startup struggling with liquidity or an established business looking to optimize your cash management, this episode is packed with practical advice and real-world examples that can help you navigate the financial hurdles in your business.

Highlights:

- The importance of managing cash flow for business sustainability.

- Jamie’s personal journey from a recruitment entrepreneur to the fintech space.

- Common cash flow challenges faced by small businesses.

- Innovative solutions Plata offers to help businesses manage their finances more effectively.

- The role of technology in streamlining financial processes for SMEs.

Quotes:

Paul Avins:

1. "I think it can be really confusing sometimes to be an entrepreneur because you look at the data, and even though your business might be turning a profit on paper, there's very little cash in the bank at the end of the month."

2. "The ability to access capital quickly is a skill, and the power of your network plays a crucial role in finding solutions that traditional banks often overlook."

Jamie Beaumont:

1. "We want to leave every business at the end of every single month with more cash in their bank to do whatever they want to do with, whether it's investments or just peace of mind."

2. "Our mantra is to help slow the flow of money leaving your business and help speed the flow of money coming in, providing a more stable cash flow for small businesses."

Follow and connect with us:

- Follow Jamie Beaumont on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/b2bbnpl/)

- Connect with Paul Avins on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulavins/)

- Learn more about Plata and their financial solutions at [Playter's Website](https://www.playter.co)

The Importance of Customer Service in Business Growth with Geoff Ramm.28 Jun 202400:29:46

In this episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, host Paul Avins is joined by customer service expert and keynote speaker Geoff Ramm to delve into the critical role that customer service plays in business growth.

Geoff, known for his groundbreaking work on "Celebrity Service," shares invaluable insights into how businesses can transform their customer service practices to not only meet but exceed expectations.

Highlights:

- Introduction to Celebrity Service: Geoff Ramm introduces the concept of "Celebrity Service," explaining its origin and how treating every customer like a celebrity can create unforgettable experiences and boost customer loyalty.

- Why Customer Service Matters: The discussion highlights the direct correlation between excellent customer service and business growth. Geoff emphasizes that outstanding service leads to higher customer retention rates, increased referrals, and ultimately, greater profitability.

- Common Pitfalls in Customer Service: Geoff and Paul explore why many businesses fail to prioritize customer service, often treating t as an afterthought rather than a fundamental aspect of their operations.

- Real-world Examples: Through engaging anecdotes, Geoff illustrates the significant impact of small, thoughtful gestures in enhancing customer satisfaction and driving positive word-of-mouth.

- Practical Strategies for Improvement: Geoff provides actionable tips for businesses to elevate their customer service standards. He stresses the importance of consistency, attentiveness, and creating a service culture that permeates the entire organization.

Quotes:

- From the Host, Paul Avins:

- "I've always said profit is a direct result of repeat customers."

  - "Too often, great service is down to one or two individuals who innovate it rather than it

being across a whole company."


- From the Guest, Geoff Ramm:

  - "If you are not being tagged into the posts based on the service experience you are giving,

you are not giving a service experience worthy of being tagged into."

  - "We need to change our mindset to a celebrity service mindset, redesign and redefine our

levels of service."


- Join us at the Scale Up Summit 2024:


Discover more about how to revolutionize your customer service by attending the Scale Up Summit.

Visit [Scale Up Summit](https://scaleupsummit.co.uk) to grab your tickets now.


- Follow Us on Social Media:


  - [Paul Avins on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulavins/)


  - [Geoff Ramm on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/customerservicespeaker/)


  - [Paul Avins on Instagram] (https://www.linkedin.com/in/customerservicespeaker/)

Mastering Systems for Business Growth with Marianne Page27 Jun 202400:34:05

In this enlightening episode of The Grown UP Business Podcast, host Paul Avins sits down with Marianne Page, an expert in business systems and processes, and a former executive with over 27 years at McDonald's.

Marianne shares her invaluable insights on how implementing effective systems can be a game-changer for businesses looking to scale up.

Key Themes:

1. The Power of Systems in Scaling a Business: Marianne explains how systems and processes are the backbone of any successful scaling strategy.Drawing from her extensive experience at McDonald's, she illustrates how a well-implemented system can create consistency, improve efficiency, and drive growth.

2. Building a Systematic Approach: The conversation delves into the importance of creating a blueprint for success. Marianne emphasizes the need for businesses to develop repeatable and scalable processes that ensure high performance and reliability across all operations.

3. The Four Types of Systems: Marianne introduces the concept of the four critical systems every business needs:

   - Sexy Systems: These are your marketing and sales processes that attract and convert

customers.

   - Security Systems: Financial and data management systems that protect the business.

   - Service Systems: Operational systems that ensure the delivery of your product or

service meets customer expectations.

   - Sticky Systems: HR systems that focus on hiring, training, and providing feedback to

ensure team cohesion and performance.

4. Real-World Examples and Practical Advice: Using real-world examples from her tenure at McDonald's and her consulting experience, Marianne provides actionable advice on how to start building and refining these systems in your own business.

Quotes:

- Paul Avins: "Simple scales, complex fails. Systems are at the heart of simplifying things."


- Marianne Page: "Businesses aren't very good at systems, but systems are the foundation that creativity can be built on."


- Paul Avins: "If you don't have visibility of numbers as you scale, managing cash becomes a critical skill set."


- Marianne Page: "Train the team member to do their job really well and develop the person to fulfill their potential."


Follow Paul on Social Media:

- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulavins/)

- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/paulavins/)


Follow and connect with Marianne Paige:

[LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariannepage/)




The Brutal Truth About Selling Your Business and Why 75% of Sales Fail17 Sep 202501:30:51
Think you're ready to sell your business? Think again. Selling your business is one of the biggest decisions you’ll ever make — second only to marriage and kids. But how do you know when you’re actually ready to sell? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins speaks with Ken Gorman, Regional Director at Transworld M&A and author of three books on selling businesses, to uncover the reality behind preparing your company for a successful exit. Together, they break down the myths, including why most business owners aren’t ready to sell, how accountants can unknowingly sabotage deals, and why 75% of businesses that go to market never sell at all. Ken shares his personal story from California to London and his 8+ years in sell-side M&A, with over 60 closed deals under his belt. If you’re a CEO or founder thinking about exit planning or simply wanting to build a grown-up business worth buying, this episode is a must-listen. Key Takeaways The “Switch in the Heart”: You’re ready to sell when the emotional shift happens — the moment you know it’s time to do something else in life. Profit is the #1 Value Driver: Buyers don’t buy passion, they buy predictable profits — and your job is to maximise and prove them. Get yourself out of the business: If the company can’t function without you, it isn’t ready to sell (or worth as much as you think). The truth about deferred deals & earnouts: Why the “wedding cake” model of deal structures (cash, deferred payments, earn-outs, rolled equity) matters, and how to protect yourself as a seller. Accountants can derail deals: Not through incompetence — but because they often lack deal experience, especially around working capital negotiations. 75% of sales fail: Selling is as much about EQ as IQ — success depends on managing people, egos, and expectations at every stage. Not all buyers are equal: You don’t want just a buyer, you need the right new owner who can fill the leadership void you leave behind. About Ken Gorman Ken Gorman is a seasoned M&A Advisor, Certified Business Valuer, and Regional Director at Transworld M&A, one of the world’s largest global dealmaking firms. With over three decades in business across the US, UK, and Europe, Ken has personally been involved in 100+ project teams and 60+ closed transactions. He specialises in helping owner-operators prepare their businesses for sale, find the right new owners, and secure life-changing exit deals — all while keeping heart and human dynamics central to the process. Resources & Links Grab Ken’s book “Selling Your Business” — Selling Your Business Connect with Ken Gorman on LinkedIn — linkedin.com Learn more about Transworld M&A — Transworld Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Thinking about selling in 2–3 years? Start now. Building enterprise value takes time — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
Transforming a Family Business into a Global Brand01 Sep 202501:27:11
From family start-up to global brand: the Wolf Eyewear growth story. Paul Avins sits down with CEO Tom Wolfenden to unpack the exact moves behind building a world-class sales team, scaling across borders, and keeping values intact while chasing exponential growth. Discover how Wolf Eyewear scaled from a family business into a global brand with 2,000+ retailers. CEO Tom Wolfenden shares lessons on sales teams, culture, and scale-up strategy with Paul Avins. What does it take to transform a family-run brand into a global scale-up with thousands of retail partners—while never losing sight of your values or community? In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Tom Wolfenden, CEO of Wolf Eyewear Group, to unpack how he took over the family business and steered it towards ambitious growth, culture, and global expansion. If you’re a CEO ready to quadruple your business, build a world-class sales team, and expand across markets without losing culture, this is your playbook. Key Highlights Mindset matters: The bold shift from hustler to scale-up CEO. Sales engine = growth engine: Why building and leading a 17-person sales team unlocked Wolf Eyewear’s growth. Resilience in crisis: How they survived Covid by loaning over £500k of stock to support customers — building loyalty money can’t buy. Leadership at scale: How to deal with underperforming team members while protecting business culture. Investment in yourself = investment in the business: Why Tom doubled down on coaching and retreats to accelerate Wolf Eyewear’s expansion. This isn’t just a story of scaling eyewear. It’s a blueprint for any ambitious CEO who wants to build a grown-up business that wins globally About Our Guest – Tom Wolfenden Tom Wolfenden is the CEO of Wolf Eyewear Group, a UK-based independent eyewear company stocked in over 2,000+ retailers and expanding internationally. Known for bold design and strong community values, Wolf Eyewear is a flagship example of how a family business can scale into a global brand—without losing its heart. Resources & Links Connect with Tom Wolfenden on LinkedIn – Tom Wolfenden | LinkedIn Explore the Wolf Eyewear Group brand – UK Eyewear Brand | Wolf Eyewear for Independent Opticians Follow Paul Avins for scale-up insights on LinkedIn – Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat – The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Ready to build your own “grown up” business that scales globally? Explore free resources at ScaleUpCoaching.com. Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
Beyond Time: Navigating the Past, Present, and Future in Business11 Aug 202501:35:53
What happens when a five-year-old girl changes the entire course of your life? In this thought-provoking episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with High-Performance Coach and former JP Morgan derivatives head Rich Waterman to explore one of the most powerful transformations you’ll hear on the show. Rich shares the moving story of Leonor — his friend’s young daughter whose battle with a terminal illness became the catalyst for his life’s work. Helping to raise emergency funds for her treatment opened his eyes to the power of community, commitment, and the extraordinary impact of turning pain into purpose. Together, Paul and Rich unpack how entrepreneurs can channel suffering into fuel for growth, how presence is the new currency of leadership, and why sometimes the shortest lives leave the greatest legacies. If you’ve ever wondered how to reframe setbacks into rocket fuel, or how to build a business and life truly aligned to your legacy, this episode is essential listening. Key Takeaways Turning Pain into Purpose: The most powerful catalyst for personal and professional growth is learning how to transform suffering into service. The Power of Commitment: Rich’s moment of saying “we’ll make this happen” for Leonor’s treatment shaped his philosophy on leadership and focus. Past, Present, Future Model: How to reframe your thinking by using the past as a resource, the present as practice, and the future as full-colour vision. Presence is Leadership: Top performers plateau when they fail to manage switching “on” and “off.” Learning to be present is now a strategic advantage. Legacy is not Time-Based: The measure of a life well-lived isn’t length, it’s the scale of impact on others. Leonor remains a profound example of this truth. About Rich Waterman Rich Waterman is a High-Performance Coach, mentor, and speaker with a unique background that bridges finance, sport, and psychology. After a decade as Head of Derivatives Structuring at JP Morgan, Rich went on to launch sports analysis businesses working with the England Rugby World Cup-winning team and international cricketers. He later became the first UK-based Senior Trainer for Tony Robbins, coaching teams and teaching leadership at global events. Today, Rich runs Get Rich Coaching, helping entrepreneurs, executives, and athletes unlock performance, presence, and purpose. Resources & Links Connect with Rich Waterman — richwaterman.com Connect with Rich Waterman on LinkedIn — linkedin.com Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Thinking about selling in 2–3 years? Start now. Building enterprise value takes time — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
Making $12M from One Video, and What It Means to Be “Always Free”24 Jul 202501:43:26
“How can one video generate $12 million in 10 months?” That’s exactly what happened for Jason Graystone — and in this episode, he reveals to Paul the mindset, money frameworks, and freedom principles that made it possible. Jason is a renowned entrepreneur, investor, and founder of Graystone Education, and he’s on a mission to help people become Always Free — creating lives of freedom through smart money systems, mindset mastery, and intentional action. In our conversation, Jason breaks down exactly what Always Free means, and why mental, mobility, and financial liberation must all align if you truly want lasting independence. We go deep into building assets (both tangible and intangible), how to delegate effectively, and why defining what freedom means to you personally is the real unlock. This episode isn’t about hustle hacks — it’s about clarity, leverage, and building a business and life around your values so you can live with purpose. Key Takeaways: A single video can change everything — Jason’s $12M YouTube case study proves the power of effective assets. Financial literacy is an essential life skill — freedom begins with understanding how money works. Delegation and knowing your true value are the levers that unlock scale and sustainability. Freedom has three dimensions: mental, mobility, and financial — all must be developed in tandem. Assets create independence — whether intellectual property, digital content, or recurring systems. Defining your personal goals and values is what ensures business growth aligns with fulfillment. Resources & Links Grab Jason's book “Always Free” — Selling Your Business Follow Jason to learn more — Jason Graystone - YouTube Learn more about Jason Graystone — jasongraystone.com Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Tired of chasing revenue but never feeling free? Stop trading time for money. Freedom starts when you build assets that generate income without you. Start building the life you want now — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
From business failure to 7-Figure Scale Up in just 12 Months…04 Jul 202501:01:22
What do you do when 12 years of building gets wiped out overnight? For Nicolas Manuel, Founder of Aim Graphics London, that nightmare became reality. After building a multi-million-pound family print and signage business, a combination of bad debts, soaring material costs, and the Russia-Ukraine war led to its collapse almost overnight. But instead of staying down, Nick fought back. Within just 12 months, he rebuilt from zero to seven figures — all while carrying the weight of personal guarantees, family responsibility, and the lessons of painful failure. In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Nicolas to reveal the hard-earned lessons of resilience, scaling under pressure, and why systems and financial controls are non-negotiable for any founder who wants to survive and thrive. Key Takeaways Collapse to Comeback: Why business failure doesn’t have to define you — it can fuel your most successful chapter. Systems over Stress: The hidden cost of not having financial forecasting and operational controls in place. Rebuilding at Speed: How Nicolas rebounded to seven figures in under 12 months by focusing on core systems, leverage, and team culture. The “Yes Team” Mentality: Why building a client-first, can-do culture is the ultimate differentiator when scaling. Resilience is a Skill: Health, mindset, and being part of a supportive community are what get you through the darkest days of entrepreneurship. Sales First: Founders should delay stepping out of sales too early — being able to sell remains the ultimate survival skill. About Nicolas Manuel Nicolas Manuel is a creative entrepreneur and the founder of Aim Graphics London and Trade Workspace Films, businesses dedicated to simplifying print, signage, and production services with speed, flexibility, and a client-first culture. Starting as a teenage apprentice in the signage industry, Nicolas worked his way into the high-pressure world of London’s creative agencies, serving major brands from Nintendo to Virgin. After co-founding and growing his own family print business to nearly £3m turnover, he endured the devastating collapse of the company during Covid’s aftermath and the global cost crisis. Learning from failure, Nicolas rebuilt stronger and faster — scaling Aim Graphics back to seven figures in just 12 months, with a renewed focus on systems, forecasting, and the “Yes Team” mindset that defines his client relationships. Resources & Links Connect with Nicolas Manuel on LinkedIn — linkedin.com Discover Aim Graphics London — aim-graphics.co.uk Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights — linkedin.com/in/paulavins Build a grown-up business at the Scale Up Retreat — paulavins.com Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Do you have the right systems and forecasting in place, or are you relying on luck? Start strengthening your foundation now — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life!
The FACE Framework: Your Blueprint for Successful Acquisitions19 Jun 202501:12:00
What if growing your business 10x wasn’t just possible…but actually EASIER than growing 10% at a time? In today’s inspiring conversation, Paul sits down with David B. Horne, founder of Add Then Multiply, to talk about scaling through Mergers & Acquisitions (M&A) and shifting to a growth mindset. David shares his remarkable story of driving a business from £1 million to £28 million in just three years using the power of strategic M&A. Together, they explore why most founders think too small, uncover how AI is transforming the deal-making landscape, and walk through David’s practical FACE methodology — Fund, Acquire, Consolidate, Exit — a framework that helps ambitious leaders scale faster and smarter while setting up for an exit. Key Takeaways 10x growth is often easier than 10% — real results show scaling £1m → £28m in 3 years through acquisitions. M&A isn’t just for corporates — founders miss opportunities by assuming it’s “off-limits.” Build your deal team early — specialist accountants & lawyers are critical to navigate the complexity. Consolidation is where success is won or lost — integrating culture, systems and people decides deal value. AI is reshaping deal flow & due diligence — smart founders can leverage it for competitive advantage. About David B Horne David B. Horne is the bestselling author of Add Then Multiply and Funded Female Founders. As the Founder of Add Then Multiply, he helps entrepreneurs scale through ambitious growth strategies involving funding, acquisitions, and exit planning. Over his career, he has: Raised more than £110 million in funding Completed over 30 acquisitions and exits Become a #1 Amazon bestselling author (twice) Delivered his TEDx Talk, “The Fight For Fairer Funding”, now seen by more than 3 million people Founded Funding Focus, a social enterprise fighting to close the gender and diversity gap in funding access He’s on a mission to make M&A and growth strategies accessible to every ambitious founder — not just corporates. Resources & Links Connect with David B Horne on LinkedIn — David B Horne | LinkedIn Learn more about David B Horne — Add then Multiply Find out if you are funding-ready — The Funding Fitness Index Follow Paul Avins for scale-up insights on LinkedIn — Paul Avins | LinkedIn Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat — The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025 Next Steps Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours. Think bigger: Ready to scale smarter and faster? Start now — get your free resources at Paul Avins Scale Up: Get actionable tips from Paul in your inbox every Saturday, Subscribe to Scale Up Saturday Newsletter Level Up: Book a Call with Paul and Get ready to level up your business and transform your life! 📚 Special Bonus from David Horne: Want to dive deeper into David’s financial framework for scaling? Get a FREE copy of his bestselling book Add Then Multiply (just cover shipping).
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