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Who was Socrates, and why does he still matter today? In this short episode of Good Is In The Details, Gwendolyn explore Socrates' understanding of wisdom and virtue through Plato's Apology, and why philosophy sees critical thinking as a path toward the good life.

Gwendolyn gives an accessible introduction of what critical thinking is, why it matters beyond the classroom, and how we've practiced public philosophy throughout 2025 with our guests.

This episode is perfect for listeners searching for philosophy podcasts, educational podcasts, public philosophy, or a deeper understanding of how learning to think well can shape a meaningful life.

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Gwendolyn and Rudy welcome founder/president of Leaders of Tomorrow Youth Center, Dr. Dermell Brunson.  In this episode we focus on the importance of the arts in education, how it contributes to creative skills, connection with community, and self-esteem. Dr. Brunson debunks the myth that the arts are tangential to a good education.  Quite the opposite!  Students learn the value of discipline through the process of artistic expression and this paves the way for improved mental health and career opportunities.   

We address several common questions like:

How does arts education benefit children?

Is arts education linked to academic success? 

What skills do students learn from arts? 

How do the arts support social and emotional learning?

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome journalist Matthew Hongoltz-Hetling (The Ghost Lab). What does it mean to be in the paranormal space? How do we understand belief, religion, and spirits?  What cultural and economic factors are considered when we examine mediums, Tarot, Ghost Hunters, and all things UFO? What does Rudy really think about aliens?  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome Erin Darling (Hot Pizza Ass podcast) back to the pod to talk about her latest show Popspiracy. We chat about some episodes and the research that goes into the show.  What is the inspiration? The work? 

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If you could choose your child's intelligence, athleticism, personality, and lifespan before they were born — would you?

And more importantly: should you?

That question — which once belonged exclusively to science fiction — is rapidly becoming a practical one. Genetic engineering and bioenhancement technologies are poised to make virtually every human capacity modifiable: physical dexterity, mental acuity, memory, focus, and more. And the parents of the near future will face choices that no generation in human history has ever had to make. 

In this award-winning episode of Good Is In The Details — recognized with a Silver Davey Award in the General: Educational category — Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo sit down with Professor Michael Bess, Chancellor's Professor of History at Vanderbilt University, recipient of major fellowships from the J.S. Guggenheim Foundation, the American Council of Learned Societies, the National Human Genome Research Institute, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and the Fulbright program, and author of Our Grandchildren Redesigned: Life in the Bioengineered Society of the Near Future (Beacon Press) described by Kirkus Reviews as "an extraordinarily thoughtful... insightful philosophical analysis" and named one of the most important books on biotechnology ethics of the past decade. 

Professor Bess has spent decades thinking carefully about what these technologies will do to human identity, human equality, and the meaning of a human life. This conversation is the clearest, most accessible, and most philosophically rigorous introduction to those questions that we have produced.

What we explore in this episode:

• What genetic engineering actually is, and what the near-future technology of designer babies, epigenetic modification, and germline editing will genuinely make possible for parents in the coming decades
• Rejuvenation therapies potentially extending human lifespans to 160 years or more; cognitive enhancement that could double or triple IQ scores; bioelectronic devices for modulating brain processes — and what it means that these possibilities are crossing the threshold from science fiction to reality 
• The philosophical heart of the episode: what does it mean to be human, and does genetic engineering threaten, enhance, or simply change that meaning?
• The ethics of parental choice: when parents are given direct control over the genetic components that make a child who they are, what moral responsibilities does that power create? And what does it mean for the child's autonomy, identity, and sense of self?
• The pressure of human enhancement applied to the whole range of capacities we value, and what happens to a society when every human trait becomes a competitive variable subject to modification
• The justice problem: if genetic enhancement is available to those who can afford it and not to those who cannot, what does that do to equality, opportunity, and the social contract? Is a genetically stratified society a just one?
• What philosophy's oldest questions about human nature, identity, and the good life have to say about biotechnology's newest possibilities, and why the examined life has never been more necessary than in a moment when the self itself is becoming redesigned
• Whether there are things about being human (vulnerability, mortality, the randomness of birth) that we should choose to preserve even when we have the power to eliminate them
• What Rudy's interest in genetic re-engineering of his own introductory skills tells us about the limits of self-improvement, and what Professor Bess would say in response

🏆 Silver Davey Award — General: Educational, Individual Episodes & Specials (18th Annual, 2022)

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Guest: Professor Michael Bess — Chancellor's Professor of History, Vanderbilt University. Guggenheim Fellow. MacArthur Fellow. Fulbright Scholar. Author of Our Grandchildren Redesigned (Beacon Press, 2015), Choices Under Fire: Moral Dimensions of World War II (Knopf, 2006), and The Light-Green Society (University of Chicago Press, 2003), which won the George Perkins Marsh Prize of the American Society for Environmental History. Co-editor of Posthumanism: The Future of Homo Sapiens (Macmillan, 2018). Teaching at Vanderbilt since 1989. 

Good Is In The Details is hosted by Gwendolyn Dolske, Ph.D. and Rudy Salo — a philosophy, books, and ideas podcast exploring the examined life in the spirit of Socrates.

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo reflect on Season 2.  A special guest joins the pod!

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Part II with Dr. Tom Keith.  Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo continue their conversation with Professor Keith about his latest documentary "How Does It Feel To Be A Problem?" We discuss otherness in American discourse and the process of filmmaking. 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome back Dr. Tom Keith to discuss his latest documentary "How Does It Feel To Be A Problem?" What is systemic racism?  We delve into a conversation about race, culture, and the role of social media. 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Dr. Michael Cholbi (University of Edinburgh) about his book Grief. A Philosophical Guide.  What does Philosophy offer for our understanding of grief? Why do we grieve?  Is grief a good?  And, what are Rudy's plans to live forever?

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Life Coach/Podcaster/Time Hacking Expert, Vikki Louise.  We learn about optimizing our time, valuing our time, and reflecting on the intention we put into our activities.  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome back Dr. David Pena-Guzman of Overthink Podcast to discuss the relationship between philosophy and science.  How does science impact cultural understandings and inform our notion of being?  

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What part of American history have we overlooked and why?

In this episode of Good Is In The Details, we explore a lesser-known chapter of Los Angeles history: the mass deportation efforts of the 1930s that targeted Mexican and Mexican American communities.

After attending a lecture by writer and professor Desiree Zamorano, Gwendolyn reflects on what it means to encounter a history you didn't know, and why these stories matter today. Zamorano's historical novel Dispossessed brings to life a period often left out of mainstream discussions of U.S. immigration and civil rights.

Questions we explore in this episode:

What was the Mexican Repatriation of the 1930s?

Why is this part of California and U.S. history not widely discussed?

How do historical narratives shape our understanding of immigration today?

What can literature reveal that history books sometimes leave out?

Why is it important to revisit overlooked or uncomfortable histories?

This conversation connects history, immigration, and philosophy, inviting us to think more critically about collective memory, identity, and the stories that shape public understanding.

If you're interested in: U.S. history and immigration, Los Angeles history, Mexican American experience, social justice and historical memory, philosophy and critical thinking, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

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Gwendolyn Dolske sits down with Dr. Kate Madorin to learn about the journey of IVF, pregnancy, and some myths regarding delivery. We're discussing the emotional, medical, and physical realities of maternity.  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Oliver Traldi (University of Notre Dame) about social epistemology, expertise, and how the internet has altered/shaped arguments.

Oliver Traldi

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Rudy's recommendation: "The New Puritans"

Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome back journalist Liz Farmer to talk about all things infrastructure.  What is the scope? Impact? What is social infrastructure? 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with poet/novelist Christina Strigas.  What is role of poetry in culture?  The romance novel?  What are some tips for writing?  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome back to the pod Josephti Cruz (Wealth Garden Financial Services). What does it mean to respect money? What is the importance of credit?  How to budget?  How do women invest/spend differently?  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Professor Neil McArthur (University of Manitoba) about his work on the ethics of sexbots.  What are some of the moral and legal implications regarding robot sex?  What can we learn about ourselves and the role of AI? 

Learn more about Professor McArthur: https://neilmcarthur.com

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo team up with Overthink Podcast hosts Dr. Anderson and Dr. Pena-Guzman to discuss public philosophy and the role of philosophy in podcasting.  We also cover topics such as free speech in university, Critical Race Theory, and the evolution of relationships. 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk about some of their favorite moments on Good Is In The Details. 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with actor/producer/musician John F Thomas about his work in film and production.  We learn about he importance of storytelling and the work behind the creative process.  And... who was Mansa Musa?

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"Due to your Asian physical features, the assumption is that you're a foreigner."

That single sentence, spoken not as outrage but as calm, familiar observation by a scholar who has lived it, contains the entire history of Asian Americans in the United States. A history that most Americans were never taught. A history that made the hatred of 2020 and 2021 not a sudden eruption but the latest chapter in a story that has been unfolding for more than 150 years.

The enduring "perpetual foreigner" stereotype, which portrays Asian individuals as outsiders who will never be "genuinely American," has its roots in a racist past and continues to be a source of harassment for Asian people today. Between March 2020 and December 2021, Stop AAPI Hate received 10,905 reported incidents of racism and discrimination targeting Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders across the United States. And five years later, those still fighting anti-Asian hate worry it will only intensify. 

This episode of Good Is In The Details was recorded in May 2021, at the height of the Stop AAPI Hate movement, and it has not aged a day.

Gwendolyn Dolske came to this conversation from a place of genuine personal distress about the hate crimes she was witnessing and a genuine desire to understand their historical context. Her guest, Professor James Paligutan, historian, educator, and a friend since their undergraduate years together, came to it with the knowledge, the warmth, and the moral clarity of someone who has spent his career making sure this history is told accurately and completely.

What followed was one of the most important episodes Good Is In The Details has ever produced. It won a Communicator Award of Distinction in the Individual Episodes — Diversity, Equity & Inclusion category at the 28th Annual Communicator Awards, judged by professionals from Netflix, Spotify, Amazon, Disney, and the Wall Street Journal. More importantly: it teaches.

What we explore in this episode:

• The full arc of Asian American history in the United States, from the first waves of Chinese immigration in the mid-19th century through the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, Japanese American incarceration during World War II, the Immigration Act of 1965, and the contemporary AAPI community
• How policies such as the 19th-century Page and Chinese Exclusion Acts and the World War II-era incarceration of Japanese Americans under Executive Order 9066 established a pattern of institutionalized bias against Asian communities that shaped American law, policy, and cultural perception for generations.
• The perpetual foreigner myth — what it is, where it comes from, how it operates in everyday interactions, and why the assumption that Asian physical features signal foreignness is not an innocent mistake but a historically constructed bias with documented, measurable consequences
• How diseases have historically been used to justify anti-Asian xenophobia, a pattern dating back to the 19th and 20th centuries that shaped the rhetoric of 2020 and the violence it enabled 
• What the Socratic spirit of genuine inquiry, the willingness to ask what you don't know, to sit with a person who knows more than you, and to learn rather than assume, looks like when applied to American history
• Why understanding Asian American history is not a partisan act but a civic one, and what philosophy says about the obligation of an examined life to examine the society it lives inside
• What celebration looks like when it is grounded in honest history, and why Gwendolyn chose to approach this episode not as a debate about current events but as an act of genuine, joyful learning

This is the episode for everyone who considers themselves a student of American history, and for everyone who has ever been made to feel like a foreigner in the country of their birth.

🏆 Communicator Award of Distinction — Individual Episodes, Diversity, Equity & Inclusion — 28th Annual Communicator Awards

Judged by an invitation-only jury including professionals from Netflix, Spotify, Amazon, Disney, and the Wall Street Journal.

Guest: Professor James Paligutan, historian and educator. A friend of Gwendolyn Dolske since their undergraduate years, and one of the people she most trusts to teach her what she didn't know she didn't know.

Good Is In The Details is hosted by Gwendolyn Dolske, Ph.D. and Rudy Salo — a philosophy, books, and ideas podcast exploring the examined life in the spirit of Socrates.

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Gwendolyn welcomes owner of Master Your Presence and fellow podcaster, Kate Ziuz.  In partnership with Modern Day Wife, Good Is In The Details brings you Business Details!  Kate offers advice for women on how to speak and present themselves with confidence.  What is presence?  How do our gestures and attire impact our ability to communicate expertise?  Learn concrete tips for your next presentation.

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Dr. Gelareh Solomon about the nature of anxiety.  How is it defined?  How is the pandemic impacting us?  What are some tools for dealing with anxiety?  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo learn about the business of matchmaking with Tammi Pickle of Elite Connections.  What is it like to be a professional matchmaker?  

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What drives human beings to explore space? Why do we feel compelled to understand the universe?

In this episode of Good Is In The Details, we speak with NASA engineer Tracy Drain about the philosophy of space exploration, scientific curiosity, and the deeply human desire to know.

As renewed interest in lunar missions and deep space travel grows—with programs like Artemis II capturing global attention—this conversation explores the enduring question: Why explore at all?

We examine:

• The role of curiosity in science and human flourishing
• What space exploration reveals about human nature
• The philosophical meaning of discovery and knowledge
• How engineers approach uncertainty, risk, and innovation
• Why learning about the universe satisfies something deeply human

This episode connects philosophy, science, and current events—showing how ancient questions about knowledge and existence remain central in the age of modern space exploration.

If you've ever wondered:

• Why do humans explore space?
• What is the purpose of space exploration?
• How does curiosity drive scientific discovery?
• What can philosophy say about science and exploration?

This conversation offers a compelling and thoughtful perspective.

🎧 Listen now and discover how the drive to explore shapes both our understanding of the universe—and ourselves.

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Alexandra Beattie (creator of Divide and Thrive) and financial advisor Josephti Cruz about the emotional and financial aspects of divorce, and how to flourish post divorce.  We discuss goal setting and learning to see the world anew.  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome back Rev. Dr. Angela Gorrell to the pod to discuss her book Always On.  How can we navigate the social media landscape?  How does our online life reflect our character?  How can we be better with the way we interact on social media? 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Philosophy Professor Richard Greene about his book Spoiler Alert!  We learn the definition and nuance of spoiling.  Many films are discussed in this episode so...Spoiler Alert!  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo discuss the portrayal of young girls and women in the media with Professor Gigi Durham (School of Journalism and Mass Communication, University of Iowa).  We focus on her book The Lolita Effect.

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Elizabeth Wydra, President of the Constitutional Accountability Center.  We discuss the event at the capital on January 6th, the impeachment, and the history of the constitution.  

Learn more about Elizabeth Wydra: https://www.theusconstitution.org

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with long time real estate investor, Mark Farrelly (Mark Brian Realty). How do trends in real estate reflect values?  What are steps to achieve financial goals?  How has Covid-19 impacted the way we view home/work life?  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Konstantin Hatcher talk with sex educator, Cindy Scharkey.  What is good sex education?  How can we better understand female pleasure?  What are desire styles?  How can parents talk to their children about sex?  

Learn more about Cindy's work (and upcoming podcast Permission for Pleasure): Cindyscharkey.com

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Gwendolyn and Rudy welcome back finance and relationship expert Brian Page of Modern Husbands.  In honor of Father's Day we're diving into the meaning of fatherhood.  How has the role changed?  What should one prioritize as a father?  How can stress be managed? What cultural dynamics impact ideas of fatherhood? 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Break Up coach, Kendra Allen, about her work and insight into breaking up with grace.  What do we learn about ourselves?  How can we heal? How can we be a supportive friend to someone going through heartbreak? 

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Gwendolyn and Rudy welcome back to the show law enforcement analyst, Jeff Cortese.  Jeff discusses his take on the issue of voter fraud and why we should examine the issue (setting bias aside).

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with journalist Liz Farmer about the new dynamics of work in the gig economy.  What are the  legal implications?  How will this impact cities?  

https://www.farmersfieldonline.com

Rudy Salo's Forbes article.

Prop 22.

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Sex and Relationship Therapist Dr. Rossana Sida about dating in the time of coronavirus. We discuss dating apps, intimacy, and relationships. 

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She was hired by Yale University to study joy. Then she lost three family members in four weeks.

There is perhaps no more honest setup for a conversation about what joy actually is, and what it is not.

In this episode of Good Is In The Details, Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo sit down with Dr. Angela Gorrell (theologian, author, speaker, and former research scholar at the Yale Center for Faith and Culture) for one of the most moving, honest, and genuinely profound conversations this show has ever had. Gwendolyn read Dr. Gorrell's book in one sitting. She cried. This episode will help you understand why.

Shortly after being hired at Yale to work on the Theology of Joy and the Good Life project, Dr. Gorrell received word that a close family member had died by suicide. Less than a month later, she lost her father to fatal opioid addiction and her nephew — only twenty-two years old — to sudden cardiac arrest. Three deaths in four weeks. The theoretical joy she was being paid to research suddenly felt shallow, distant, and completely unreachable.

But joy, it turned out, was closer than it seemed, and it arrived from the most unexpected direction. As Dr. Gorrell began volunteering at a women's maximum-security prison, she met people who had suffered enormously and yet still showed a tremendous, unmistakable capacity for joy. What she discovered changed everything she thought she understood about what joy is, where it comes from, and what it requires of us.

The Gravity of Joy: A Story of Being Lost and Found — called "searingly honest, devastatingly painful, profoundly wise, and beautiful" by reviewers, and described by Booklist as a book anyone can connect with regardless of faith background — is the record of that discovery. And this conversation brings it to life.

What we explore in this episode:

• What joy actually is, and what it definitively is not (it is not happiness, not the absence of pain, and not something you manufacture through positive thinking)
• Why joy doesn't obliterate grief, and why it has a mysterious capacity to be felt alongside sorrow, and even most especially in the midst of suffering
• What Dr. Gorrell found at a women's maximum-security prison that she couldn't find anywhere else, and what incarcerated women taught a Yale theologian about resilience, community, and joy
• The philosophy and theology of joy as a "counteragent to despair" and why America's crises of addiction, suicide, and isolation make this one of the most urgent questions of our time
• What the simple things, the ones we overlook, have to do with the most profound experiences of joy
• The difference between seeking joy and becoming postured toward it, open to its possibility even in the unlikeliest places
• What community has to do with joy, and why we can drink from each other's wells when our own runs dry
• How to find meaning when grief has taken hold, and what it looks like to keep going anyway

This is the episode for anyone who has ever wondered whether joy is still available to them. The answer, Dr. Gorrell argues with her whole life, is yes.

Guest: Dr. Angela Gorrell — theologian, author, speaker, and consultant. Former research scholar, Yale Center for Faith and Culture. Author of The Gravity of Joy: A Story of Being Lost and Found  and Always On: Practicing Faith in a New Media Landscape. Her research has been highlighted in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and NPR. She has provided thought leadership for organizations including the US Army and the NBA.

Good Is In The Details is hosted by Gwendolyn Dolske, Ph.D. and Rudy Salo — a philosophy, books, and ideas podcast exploring the examined life in the spirit of Socrates.

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Dr. Cori Wong (Meta Level Love Podcast) about her work in public philosophy, her Ted Talk on Feminist Friendship, and the art of living. 

https://coriwong.com

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo welcome back comedian Erin Darling Torralva to the pod! We discuss comedy, the documentary The Social Dilemma, and her podcast Hot Pizza Ass.  Erin also answers a few questions from Professor Dolske's students. 

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with scholar-activist-author, Jackson Katz Ph.D. (The Macho Paradox and Man Enough?).  How can the narrative regarding violence be reframed?  What is the role of culture and media in our understanding of masculinity? 

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How are our habits changing because of social distancing?  Our moods?    Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Psychology Professor Maire Ford (Loyola Marymount University) about her research on the psychological impact of social distancing.  

To learn more about Dr. Ford's work: https://bellarmine.lmu.edu/psychology/faculty/?expert=mireb.ford

Rudy's article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rudysalo/2020/07/31/has-covid-19-and-its-accelerated-work-from-home-experiment-permanently-changed-the-future-of-cities/#2eab486b3ba9

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-14/coronavirus-pandemic-sex-birth-rate-population-demographics

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Professor Jack Fong (Cal Poly Pomona) about the study of groups and how that helps us navigate being in the world.  Dr Fong explains the meaning of existentialism as a way to approach sociology, and we discuss his book The Death Cafe. 

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http://www.csupomona-fong.org

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In this episode of Good Is In The Details, hosts Gwendolyn Dolske, PhD, and Rudy Salo are joined by philosopher, author, and Hi-Phi Nation host Barry Lam to explore one of the most enduring questions in ethics and public life: Can rules and laws ever fully capture moral reality?

Drawing from Lam's book Fewer Rules, Better People, the conversation examines how moral decision-making often involves complexity, context, and human judgment beyond what legal systems can anticipate. When should we follow rules strictly, and when does moral discretion matter? How do individuals navigate situations where law, ethics, and real-world circumstances collide?

Through engaging examples and accessible philosophical insight, this episode explores:

• the relationship between law and morality

• the role of discretion in ethical decision-making

• how context and human judgment shape moral responsibility

• why simple rules often fail in complex moral situations

Blending philosophy, ethics, and real-world reflection, the discussion makes big ideas approachable without sacrificing depth. Whether you are a student, educator, lifelong learner, or simply curious about how we make moral decisions, this episode offers thoughtful tools for understanding justice, responsibility, and human behavior.

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How has Ancient Greek thought impacted our understanding of the body?  Science? What is the value of philosophy?  Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with Philosophy Professor Dr. Christia Mercer (Columbia University) about her work unraveling the context and history of our contemporary ideas.  

Learn more about Professor Mercer here: https://philosophy.columbia.edu/directories/faculty/christia-mercer

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The discussions continue!  More philosophy, psychology, culture, books, and wit.  

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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo interview candidate for Massachusetts 4th congressional district, Natalia Linos.  Natalia's science background offers a unique perspective to the realm of politics.  We discuss health care, Covid-19, and environmental justice.  

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