The GOOD Awaits podcast is produced by Josie Major and Debbie Clarke from The Centre for GOOD Travel. Audio production and music is by Clarrie Macklin.
Tourism’s Interconnectedness: Regenerative Food Systems - Part 3 with Nate Smith
Épisode 20
mardi 3 janvier 2023 • Durée 41:26
In our third episode of three exploring how tourism can support regenerative food systems, we’re thrilled to bring you our conversation with Nate Smith of Gravity Fishing, a man who is a force of nature! Nate was concerned that no one else was doing anything about the extractive fishing industry in Aotearoa and took action to transform the industry, while also using food tourism to reconnect his guests with nature.
Nate speaks to many of the topics we’ve discussed this second season of GOOD Awaits: the power of stories in reshaping our guiding narrative, returning to old ways of knowing, connecting to place through food, educating guests by reconnecting them with the wild, redefining growth, using technology in new and innovative ways, thinking and acting at a systems level, and perhaps most importantly, believing that ‘a small guy’ can change a whole system.
We can all be inspired by Nate, and ask ourselves, “What won’t happen if you don’t step up and do it?”
Join our LinkedIn network of like minded professionals exploring what a regenerative future for tourism can look like. We'd love to see you there and hear your thoughts on this episode.
Want to explore what regenerative tourism could look like in practice? Join our GOOD Awaits Aotearoa New Zealand Experience in March 2023.
Storytelling in a VUCA World - with Alina Siegfried and JoAnna Haugen
Saison 2 · Épisode 11
mercredi 22 juin 2022 • Durée 01:15:58
"We can’t have a different future if we can’t imagine it first”
Whether we’re conscious of it or not, how we live, work, play - and travel - is all informed by the stories we tell ourselves, by the narratives we continue to uphold. We are all storytellers, and the stories we tell and how we tell them matter.
Join us in this two part episode on storytelling in a VUCA world. Our guest for part one is Alina Siegfried who guides us in exploring a new story for humanity, and new myths and narratives for a different future that we can all create together.
In part two, we’re joined by JoAnna Haugen, master storyteller for tourism, who shares how to craft honest, intentional, complicated, and complex stories that help shift our mindset as we adapt to our changing world.
Join our Linkedin network of likeminded professionals exploring what a regenerative future for tourism can look like. We'd love to see you there and hear your thoughts on this episode.
Introduction: What is Tourism’s Purpose in a VUCA World?
Saison 2
mardi 7 juin 2022 • Durée 15:21
Welcome to Season 2 of GOOD Awaits! One year into their journey to research and explore regenerative tourism practice in Aotearoa New Zealand, Debbie and Josie are thrilled to be continuing these critical conversations.
Continuing to unpack the paradigm shift that is required for a regenerative tourism future, this season of GOOD Awaits will go beyond the perceived silo of tourism with a diverse range of guests including story-tellers, students, researchers, and local hosts. Debbie and Josie will explore how these pioneers are creating a new guiding story at individual, local and systemic levels.
A critical question that emerged from Season 1 was: what is tourism’s purpose? Season 2 explores this question further by asking: what is tourism’s purpose in a VUCA - volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous - world? How can we adapt and be resilient while using tourism to regenerate our communities and places? What new stories and myths do we need in order to see ourselves as regenerators of our places?
Journey with Debbie and Josie as they explore these questions and as we work towards an evolving, connected, regenerative tourism future together.
Special Thanks to NZ National Commission for UNESCO for supporting this 2nd season of our podcast.
Season Harvest
Saison 1
mardi 31 août 2021 • Durée 44:07
In this episode, Debbie and Josie revisit and recap the inspiring conversations with their guests, harvesting a vision for what a regenerative visitor economy could look like in Aotearoa, New Zealand. In this harvest, you'll hear some of our favourite interview fragments from all of our guests, as well as ideas and questions sent in by you, our wonderful listeners.The Harvest is designed to help you digest what we've discussed throughout the season, and as a summary for those who haven't had the time to listen to all 10 episodes.
All the guests in this season speak to the urgency and imperative of acknowledging the challenges of an uncertain and complex future. We must face this reality if we’re to be resilient in how we reshape our tourism businesses, industry, and communities. Our collective vision is one in which the wellbeing and thrivability of communities is at the heart of tourism’s purpose. We dream of a visitor economy that fosters deep and meaningful encounters between visitors and hosts, and puts purpose and passion at the forefront.
We hope you find much value and inspiration in this collective vision of a reimagined tourism in Aotearoa, New Zealand. If you’re interested in continuing these conversations we invite you to reach out to us and become part of our growing community.
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This podcast is produced entirely by volunteers. If you are finding value in these conversations, please consider supporting us to continue this work by donating to our givealittle page. We are extremely grateful for your support.
In this episode, Debbie and Josie interview Lee-Anne Jago, owner of Waka Abel Tasman. Lee-Anne and her husband Todd offer waka experiences in the Abel Tasman within a cultural framework of Maori tikanga and world view. They place their community at the heart of everything they do in their business and are passionate about uplifting rangatahi (young people) and supporting their community to thrive.
Our conversation with Lee-Anne is in many ways a summary of the regenerative tourism principles we’ve discussed in previous episodes; demonstrating how tourism can help communities thrive, create deep and meaningful connections, place purpose and passion at the heart of business, and be more resilient and adaptive in this VUCA world. We hope you find much value and inspiration in this example of regenerative tourism.
This episode is the final interview for season 1 of the GOOD Awaits podcast. We will be sharing one more episode, an extended reflection with Debbie and Josie to harvest some of the stories and learnings from the podcast. If you would like to contribute to this, please send us your ideas, reflections or questions and we would love to include them in our conversation.
Support our Work
This podcast is produced entirely by volunteers. If you are finding value in these conversations, please consider supporting us to continue this work by donating to our givealittle page. We are extremely grateful for your support.
For Episode 9 Josie and Debbie interviewed Mandy Bell, co-owner of Criffel Station and Chairperson and Programme Director of WAI Wanaka. Mandy brings innovative, nature-based, and whole of community approaches to her work, and spoke with us about the opportunities to look beyond tourism and work across sectors when taking a regenerative approach.
Mandy is a big picture thinker with ambitious goals for tourism in Aotearoa, but offers practical, actionable examples and ideas in this conversation including models of regenerative practice in action from other sectors and examples of community-driven and nature-based mindset initiatives.
This week, our offering is for listeners who have stayed with us throughout this journey, all the way to Episode 9 of GOOD Awaits. You are a part of this transformative movement, and if you want to talk about how we can continue to drive change, please get in touch with us. We need to work together on this if we're going to create the conditions for a regenerative visitor economy to thrive in Aotearoa.
Support our Work
This podcast is produced entirely by volunteers. If you are finding value in these conversations, please consider supporting us to continue this work by donating to our givealittle page. We are extremely grateful for your support.
In this episode, Debbie and Josie interview Porina McLeod, owner of Mauao Adventures. Mauao Adventures’ core purpose is to connect people with the moana (ocean), the whenua (land) and tangata whenua (local people). Preserving Māori cultural values is important to Porina and these values are woven through every aspect of her business.
Porina speaks about her involvement in Te Whānau Tāpoi Māori ō Tauranga Moana, a newly formed Māori tourism collective that demonstrates true collaboration and is an example of living systems principles, bringing diverse individuals together through relationships and structures to form a emergent, thriving collective.
Porina’s view of the world, how she operates her business, and Te Whānau Tāpoi Māori ō Tauranga Moana are all examples of living systems thinking and practice. We hope you find much value and inspiration in these examples of regenerative tourism.
Support our Work
This podcast is produced entirely by volunteers. If you are finding value in these conversations, please consider supporting us to continue this work by donating to our givealittle page. We are extremely grateful for your support.
In this episode, Josie and Debbie interview Eliza Raymond, Co-Founder of GOOD Travel. Eliza shares honestly and openly the way her life journey has challenged and changed her thinking about what it means to be a global citizen, and the role travel can play in that. It’s a reminder that we’re all evolving as we try to understand what regenerative thinking means for travel and tourism.
Eliza describes how global citizenship requires an understanding of our interconnectedness and interdependency with each other and our planet, echoing the living systems principles we have been exploring as we seek to reframe our communities and visitor economy as diverse, living ecosystems. She highlighted the leading role social enterprises can play in this shift to a regenerative model, and also allowed us to explore the responsibility of the traveller to join us in this journey.
We’re thrilled to share Eliza’s story, as both a tourism operator and an academic, bridging the gap between research, advocacy, and action. We hope you find much to ponder from the thoughts Eliza shares.
Eliza Raymond for this fun, enlivening and inspiring conversation
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Sarni Hart - Fostering Connection to People and Place
Saison 1 · Épisode 6
mardi 29 juin 2021 • Durée 50:50
In this episode, Josie and Debbie interview Sarni Hart, Director of Coromandel Adventures. Sarni is passionate about helping visitors develop greater understanding, respect, and appreciation of our natural world in hopes they will choose to take an active role in protecting it.
Sarni is a model for how as tourism operators, we can be involved in taking care of the environment and communities that we rely on for our industry. She speaks to the challenges of working with varied and diverse stakeholders in communities, and to how their shared desire to create a better future for the Coromandel keeps them moving forward together.
We’re thrilled to share Sarni’s story, as a tourism operator quietly and diligently working for a positive impact on her place. Wherever you are on the regenerative journey, we hope you relate to Sarni’s story and find inspiration in her passion.
(We and our often use words from Te Reo Māori, New Zealand's indigenous language, in their interviews. We welcome and celebrate this, and for listeners outside of New Zealand for whom these may be unfamiliar, we offer an interpretation here to aid your understanding. For more detail, you can reference https://maoridictionary.co.nz/. We also offer explanations of acronyms and other industry terminology used in hope of making GOOD Awaits more accessible.)
(Our guests will often use words from Te Reo Māori, New Zealand's indigenous language, in their interviews. We welcome and celebrate this, and for listeners outside of New Zealand for whom these may be unfamiliar, we offer an interpretation here to aid your understanding. For more detail, you can reference https://maoridictionary.co.nz/. We also offer explanations of acronyms and other industry terminology used in hope of making GOOD Awaits more accessible.)
Aotearoa - New Zealand
Waka - canoe
Waka ama - outrigger canoe
Whakapapa – genealogy, lineage
Tikanga - cultural protocols and values
Te Ao Māori - The Māori world
Koha - offering, donation
Mahi - work
Rohe - area
Kaumatua - elder
Kaitiakitanga - guardianship, stewardship
Manaakitanga – hospitality, care, welcome
Manaaki - to welcome and care for, to uplift others
(Our guests will often use words from Te Reo Māori, New Zealand's indigenous language, in their interviews. We welcome and celebrate this, and for listeners outside of New Zealand for whom these may be unfamiliar, we offer an interpretation here to aid your understanding. For more detail, you can reference https://maoridictionary.co.nz/. We also offer explanations of acronyms and other industry terminology used in hope of making GOOD Awaits more accessible.)
Moana – ocean
Mahi - work
Te Ao Māori - The Māori world
Kaupapa - purpose, policy or values
Taiao – environment
Whenua - land
Tangata Whenua - “people of the land”, Māori people local to a particular area
Haumarutanga - safety, protection
Kaitiakitanga - guardianship, stewardship
Whakaaro – mindset, thought, opinion
Manaakitanga – hospitality
Whanaungatanga - relationships, making kinship connections
(Our guests will often use words from Te Reo Māori, New Zealand's indigenous language, in their interviews. We welcome and celebrate this, and for listeners outside of New Zealand for whom these may be unfamiliar, we offer an interpretation here to aid your understanding. For more detail, you can reference https://maoridictionary.co.nz/. We also offer explanations of acronyms and other industry terminology used in hope of making GOOD Awaits more accessible.)
Kauri - large forest trees native to New Zealand, often growing over 50m tall and living 2000 years, but threatened by Phytophthora agathidicida or Kauri Dieback
Kaitiaki - guardian, steward
Tūrangawaewae - "place to stand", place where one belongs
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