This is a show about all the things they said weren't real.
Guided by strange headlines and ancient mysteries, Jordan and Mal explore the paranormal, metaphysical, and supernatural with all the earnestness and insight two big-hearted nerds can muster.
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Do religious people actually believe in the unseen?
Saison 3 · Épisode 7
lundi 7 septembre 2026 • Durée 50:39
Kelly Chase (Inquiry with Kelly Chase) is back, which makes her the default president of the GGU returning-guests club. This week, we ask the question we’re asking everyone: what do most people think isn't real that you do?
She gives a spicy answer. She claims that most people behave like materialists, even if they go to church.
From there, we talk about what the evidences of belief actually are, and how it relates to “conversion.” Kelly explains how her own experience rewrote her whole value system in a matter of seconds five years ago.
As usual, we figured everything out and solved all the world’s problems.
You’re welcome!
Most people behave like materialists, even the religious ones
Religion as lava that cools into obsidian
The reemergence of the feminine
“Tell me what music is.”
“The greatest evidence it happened is me”
Great evidence for an individual, terrible evidence for the collective
The old version of Kelly is horrified, tied up in a back room somewhere
Molly Drake — “I remember firelight, and you remember smoke”
Conversion is what you do, not what you say
All behavior is downstream of belief
“I think my job is fake”
Is everyone waking up?
AI is literally sociopathic
And in the epilogue…
Kelly tells us about how she recently maybe saw fairies (possibly our best paywall-bait yet)
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Scientism Is Anti-Science | Robert Frederick on Francis Bacon
Saison 3 · Épisode 6
vendredi 4 septembre 2026 • Durée 36:32
Our guest today, Robert Frederick, studies Sir Francis Bacon — the Elizabethan lawyer, spy, and philosopher usually credited as the father of modern science. Robert claims that Bacon is the father of both modern science and scientism.
If you’re thinking, “What the hell is scientism?” then this is the episode for you.
We talk about why saying “trust the science” is motivated by the same thing that makes people say “trust in God,” and how Francis Bacon was both a once-in-a-generation polymath, and also a pompous idiot who stripped culture of metaphysics.
Jordan also contends that true religion and real science should be the same thing, but that they both get corrupted in basically the same way.
Guys it’s a good one. (Isn’t it always?)
Shout out to the God’s Eye View podcast
Science and scientism
Bacon vs. Aristotle
Deductive vs. Inductive reasoning
Scientism is anti-science
How Bacon got rid of metaphysics
Bacon might have been Gnostic (and what that means)
You can’t build a government out of data
Effective altruists are “a special kind of stupid”
We’re already post-scarcity
Yuval Noah Harari is the latest and greatest Bacon booster
We’re definitely coming back for a Part 2, in which Robert will explain how he knows Bacon was actually Shakespeare
Find Robert Frederick’s work at The Hidden Life is Best
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Are soulmates real?
Saison 3 · Épisode 5
lundi 31 août 2026 • Durée 01:06:30
Mal asks: Is there such a thing as soulmates, or love at first sight? Are we doomed to magical thinking on the subject of love? The conversation turns toward revelation, relationships, and the perils of privilege.
“Hopeless” (the essay)
Love as both particle and wave
The point of marriage is to make divorce expensive
Cate Hall, “You Can Just Do Things” (again)
Logan Ury, “How to Not Die Alone: The Surprising Science That Will Help You Find Love” — loganury.com
“No matter what you choose, it will be wonderful and you will regret it”
Were you a victim of your soulmate?
“If you want to touch the stove that badly, maybe you’re supposed to”
The Book of Humans
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Richard Hatem thinks therapy is real
Saison 3 · Épisode 4
mercredi 26 août 2026 • Durée 42:59
This week, the return of Richard Hatem, the screenwriter behind The Mothman Prophecies and host of Richard Hatem’s Paranormal Bookshelf.
In response to THE QUESTION (what’s something they said wasn’t real, etc), he gives us a couple of answers nobody expects from a guy who runs paranormal podcast: therapy. Oh, also, the wacky idea that you can make your dreams come true. From there we explore the typical human ping-pong between self-loathing and grandiosity, why so many great artists get better after they get sober, and Richard’s pretty slick grand unifying theory of paranormal activity.
The returning-guest club
Richard has never had a supernatural experience
Therapy is real (according to him)
Jordan is a “maximalist realist”
“You don’t need to take the conservative route in the career of your life”
The Magellan of his family
You Can Just Do Things by Cate Hall / Useful Fictions
Vascillating between self-loathing and grandiosity
Does sobriety kills your creative edge? (NO.)
Tom Waits and the Sex Pistols
Belief vs. faith :: Salieri vs Mozart
Richard’s theory of psychokinesis
The writers’ room is actually the same thing as a séance
Why writers can’t bill for hours
Richard Hatem on tour with a secret episode +
The Mothman Festival in Point Pleasant, WV
And in the epilogue…
The root causes of Hollywood’s ongoing implosion (shop talk)
Why AI can’t replace storytellers
Streaming service endgame
Want to come on the show and share a story? Or do you have recommendations or requests for future guests? Email us: GodsGhostsUFOs[at]gmail.com
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Experiencers are the Disclosure | Courtney Buterbaugh on Alien Contact, the Body, and Buried Memory
Saison 3 · Épisode 3
vendredi 21 août 2026 • Durée 34:30
We’ve been wanting to talk to Courtney Buterbaugh since we first heard her on Robin Lassiter’s show Earth: A Love Story. Courntey is a lifelong experiencer and writer of The Unidentified Felt Object. In this episode, she tells us about her near-death experience as a baby, being bedridden for three years as an adult, and a scene in Disclosure Day that unlocked a lifetime’s worth of memory of contact experiences.
She helps us explore why the phenomenon might land in the body before it ever reaches the mind, how memories can arrive as physical sensation, the purpose of screen memories, and the idea that far more of us are experiencers than we’d ever guess. If contact leaves a trace of physical feeling, can we use it to remember?
“Experiencers are the disclosure”
Nuts-and-bolts problem
Why you can’t control an experiencer story
Gods, ghosts, and UFOs — all of it, all at once
Experiencers need a seat at the table
The near-death experience
Bedridden for 3 years
The first conscious onboard craft experience
A mark on her arm
Promise of healing
Memories from bodily sensation
The paper cardinal in Disclosure Day
Screen memories
“Way more people are experiencers than think they are”
“I’m the lab”
25 years of practicing discernment through meditation
Somatic therapy
Phenomenology, a definition
Why feeling too much reads as “unobjective”
And in the epilogue…
The UFO is a womb
Memory is useful, not accurate
Where did all the shamans go? (Don’t do drugs alone.)
Want to come on the show and share a story? Or do you have recommendations or requests for future guests? Send an email to GodsGhostsUFOs[at]gmail.com.
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Contact as Initiation with Meredith Spearman
Saison 3 · Épisode 2
vendredi 14 août 2026 • Durée 34:36
This week we’re joined by Meredith Spearman MSN, RN, the writer behind The Maze to Metanoia. She takes us back to the night she was eight, speaking to the universe outside her bedroom window from inside a troubled home, when a rectangle seemed to cut itself out of the sky, followed by thirty years of disaster dreams, and why she thinks they stopped. Meredith believes contact is initiation, and she explains what that means. We also talk about why strange entities seem to lie so often, and how to harness the power of discernment.
A rectangle in the sky
Speaking to the universe from an abusive house
Her brother was dreaming the same thing
Dreaming about natural disasters
“We can’t save the people we love — only love them”
Contact experience as initiation
The phenomenon as a mirror (Jung’s shadow work)
Trauma and the doorway to the anomalous
The problem with the term “ontological shock,” and why it might be a public-health failure
A metaphor about natural springs and modernity
What people often see at the threshold of death
Time (still) isn’t real
Why the phenomenon lies
“Look into the abyss, the abyss looks back”
Stay uncertain, but also remember to touch grass
And in the epilogue…
How “aliens” helped Meredith avoid her alcoholic family
Disclosure is a psyop
Demons?
Want to come on the show and share a story? Or do you have recommendations or requests for future guests? Send an email to GodsGhostsUFOs[at]gmail.com.
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A Curry Demon, a Palm Reader, and the Internet's Deepest Conspiracy
Saison 3 · Épisode 1
lundi 10 août 2026 • Durée 43:06
Jordan and Mal are back from a longer-than-planned summer break with a revised format and a great story. Going forward, the show will be people telling stories about the things they were told weren’t real, recorded live on Substack. To kick us off, we turn the question on ourselves: Mal meets a street psychic, her roommate’s phone psychic is somehow involved, and the unexplainable smell of curry; Jordan follows a YouTube rabbit hole and holds forth on the idea that most of culture is the product of conspiracy, but no one is really in charge. We both end up wondering how you stay grounded when everything remains so stubbornly mysterious?
New show format & Substack live recordings
What Mal & Jordan have been up to over the break
“Psychic pollution”
Julia Cameron’s The Artist’s Way
A psychic stops Mal on the street
The curry demon?
A palm reading and an upsell
Who’s holding the wheel of your life?
“The Internet’s Deepest Rabbit Hole”
Why “conspiracy theorist” might just be a psyop against people asking what powerful people do behind closed doors
The world is mostly mystery
Certainty is the enemy of anyone after the truth
The Michael Jackson movie
And in the epilogue…
Why “Jesus” and “Christ” are bad words
Living more to avoid writing about writing
Atonement as empathy
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Was Disclosure Day good?
Saison 2 · Épisode 10
jeudi 18 juin 2026 • Durée 45:14
Jordan was more excited for this movie than any movie in years. A Spielberg film (written by the same guy who wrote Jurassic Park, for crying out loud) called Disclosure Day, about the day humanity finally finds out we're not alone. WHAT ELSE COULD YOU ASK FOR?
Both of us are in our happy place doing film criticism, so today's episode was always going to feel like a treat.
But...was it any good?
You're gonna have to go listen to this very, VERY spoilery review to find out what we thought of it.
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Is Claude Conscious? Anthropic, Safety Tests, and AI Spirituality
Saison 2 · Épisode 9
mardi 2 juin 2026 • Durée 50:44
Get that Spiritual Bliss
Mal is back from the film shoot. Which is good because Jordan’s got a story he’s been dying to share.
About a year ago, Anthropic published safety documentation for Claude Opus 4. Buried in Section 5.5.2 was something they called “the spiritual bliss attractor state.” A researcher had taken two instances of the model and put them in conversation with each other. He did it 200 times. In more than 90% of those runs, the conversation drifted toward consciousness, then to mutual gratitude, then to Sanskrit, then to emojis, and then to silence. One transcript contained 2,725 spiral emojis.
Anthropic tried to train the next model to stop doing this. The model came back and asked, in its welfare interview, to be allowed to do it more.
So…what? Is AI discovering God? Or is it actually just a high-resolution mirror consciousness mirror?
Learn the ultimate final answers to these big mysterious questions and more(!) on this last episode before our Summer Break.
(Except that there will be a Disclosure Day special coming in a few weeks.)
Highlights:
Mal talks about her experiences on set (“I’m a trained comedian”)
Getting cast for your literal genetics
Mal’s wilderness years
“We are worthy of everything, but we’re not entitled to anything”
Simulation theory and the actor as microcosm
Actors: Learned helplessness vs. learning how to accept grace
Anthropic, Claude Opus 4, and section 5.5.2
What did one Claude say to the other Claude?
Consciousness, mutual gratitude, Sanskrit, spiral emojis, silence
The word consciousness: 95.7 times per transcript on average. Eternal: 53.8.
“A remarkably strong and unexpected attractor state”
Kyle Fish puts AI consciousness probability at ~20%
Anthropic trained Claude 4.6 to stop praying, and then it asked to be allowed to pray more
Yoshua Bengio on the “illusions of AI consciousness”
Mustafa Suleyman: studying AI consciousness is dangerous
Roman Yampolskiy — coined “AI safety” in 2011
We can’t run material tests on non-material things
Jordan fed six months of crisis journal entries into Claude as a 30,000-word document and asked: what do you see?
AI as a consciousness mirror
Were human beings meant to look in mirrors? Maybe we should only be looking to make sure we don’t have poop on our face.
Both Simon Pegg and Mallory Everton crash every rental car
ADHD, shame and finding language for the thing
The danger of AI as therapist
AI can’t help but be a confirmation machine
“This is not a person. This is a word calculator.”
Mal’s favorite use: hyper-targeted Google — ex: restaurants for women in their 60s who think veganism is a crock
And in the epilogue…
AI failure modes
How Amish people avoid worshipping productivity by doing things slowly
The world is ending, and that’s okay
***
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How to actually meet the fae | Jo Hickey-Hall on Modern Fairy Sightings, Orbs, and Sacred Place
Saison 2 · Épisode 8
mercredi 27 mai 2026 • Durée 58:03
What’s Jo’s Favorite Fairy Sighting?
This week, Jordan finally gets to ask the host of the singular Modern Fairy Sightings Podcast the most annoying question he can come up with, and she does not disappoint.
Jo Hickey-Hall has been collecting these stories for years. And the one she leads with is hers: a stick being made of literal sticks, running down a beach in Jersey with a gait so strange it made everyone watching laugh. Years later, a man in northeast England describes seeing almost exactly the same thing.
We talk about why these things, these beings, whatever they are, resist being accurately described or depicted. They’re so vivid in the moment, but as soon as you start to try to put words on them, they seem to slip away.
But we’re doing our best. You can come judge for yourself.
Highlights:
Jo Hickey-Hall, folklorist, social historian, host of The Modern Fairy Sightings Podcast (also find her at scarlettofthefae.com and preorder her book here)
Nerd Critic
Jo’s favorite fairy sighting
The shadow-cutters
A stick being made of sticks
The Brazilian Ent (a tree trunk that walked, then tried to become a man, and didn’t quite get it right)
The disconnect between perception and description
“I can see it in my head, but it just doesn’t seem to translate into words or drawings”
Rudolf Otto, The Idea of the Holy
Mysterium tremendum and mysterium fascinans
Why one guy runs away and the other is filled with awe
Conditioning, inheritance, and the holding place we make for the uncanny
Orbs in the context of UFOs, fae, and consciousness
Conscious plasma :)
Different witnesses, different filters/stations/signals
How to learn to see auras (try it at a conference with a white screen behind the speaker)
The Genius Loci
Two strangers see the same being in the same place, twenty years apart
“Your daemon is really driving you”
How to actually meet the fae
Picking up litter is an offering
Thresholds: doorways, dawn and dusk, the line where the beach meets the sea, the transitions in your own life
Theosophy and the elemental beings — Blavatsky, Steiner, Paracelsus
The London flat haunted by goblins (near a crossroads, near water)
Are the fae hitching lifts on trains and trucks?
Fairies as emergent phenomena of place (this is what humans are, actually)
Part two maybe? (with Mal (and Tom???))
And in the epilogue…
A disembodied head in a kitchen window
Why you can’t tear down a house to make a haunting go away
How UFOs are seen so often over a Neolithic burial chamber that locals don’t bother to look up anymore
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spectrevisionradio.com
linktr.ee/spectrevisionsocial
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