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Ep 12 PART 2 Series Takeaway Review w/ Madison Clarke
13 Aug 2025
00:11:01
We explore how safeguarding moves beyond risk management to create environments where people feel safe, supported and empowered to speak up.
This final episode examines balancing safety with rehabilitation, preventing issues through early intervention, addressing spiritual abuse, and maximizing volunteer potential in safeguarding.
• Understanding how past convictions lose predictive power over time, balancing risk assessment with evidence of personal change
• Importance of addressing low-level concerns early to prevent escalation of safeguarding issues
• How perpetrators in faith settings use distorted theology to justify abuse, causing profound spiritual harm
• Why open dialogue about difficult topics is essential in religious organizations
• The critical role volunteers play in effective safeguarding when properly trained and integrated
• Ways volunteers bring unique perspectives that enhance protection through their community connections
Feel free to email me at madison@petros.org.uk for topic suggestions and guests you'd like to hear from in season two.
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Ep 11 PART 1 Series Key Takeaway Review w/ Madison Clarke
02 Jul 2025
00:15:09
Madison revisits key insights from the first five episodes of Faithful Safeguarding, highlighting how safeguarding within faith communities requires everyone's involvement, theological integration, clear boundaries, and inclusive practices that address power dynamics.
Professor Jo Clarke establishes that safeguarding is everyone's responsibility, from church leaders to volunteers and cleaners
Dr Marcus Pound shows how theological concepts like redemption and forgiveness can reshape safeguarding policies to be more compassionate and reflect scriptural teachings
Father Justin Glynn challenges traditional views of disability and vulnerability, emphasising boundaries and belonging
Di Gamage demonstrates how play and drama therapy empower children to communicate safeguarding concerns
Anjum Mouj describes diversity, inclusion and belonging as "the holy trinity of safeguarding”, a crucial component of safeguarding. She goes on to discuss how power dynamics in hierarchical religious institutions often protect abusers rather than victims
Join us for part two where we'll explore criminal convictions, low-level concerns, abuse in faith communities, and the importance of volunteer engagement in safeguarding.
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Ep 10 Closing Loopholes: Beyond the DBS Check w/ Isabelle King (Part 2)
01 May 2025
00:34:48
How do you transform volunteers into safeguarding champions? In this eye-opening conversation with Isabelle King, we unpack the critical role volunteers play in creating robust protection frameworks within faith communities.
Forget the dangerous notion that "a bad volunteer is better than no volunteer." Isabelle shares her belt-and-braces approach to recruitment, revealing why thorough screening matters and what red flags to watch for. With host Madison Clarke, she expertly dismantles the misconception that DBS checks alone create safety, walking us through a comprehensive volunteer recruitment process that closes dangerous loopholes.
The most powerful revelation? Treating volunteers as an integral part of your workforce rather than a "bolt-on" completely transforms safeguarding effectiveness. Isabel shares a remarkable case study where one organization evolved from having a single safeguarding officer supporting 250,000 volunteers to developing a network of trained volunteer safeguarding champions who proudly declared: "We are a safeguarding organization."
Whether you're managing a handful of volunteers or hundreds, this episode provides actionable strategies to build a unified safeguarding culture where everyone - from paid staff to occasional helpers - understands their role in creating safety.
You'll walk away with a clear roadmap for empowering your volunteers to become the eyes and ears of your safeguarding framework.
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Ep 9 Volunteers: Instilling Proper Boundaries - Part 1 with Isabelle King
01 Apr 2025
00:39:42
Volunteers are the lifeblood of safeguarding within faith communities, bringing unique perspectives and fostering trust while facing distinct challenges that require careful management.
In this episode, safeguarding consultant Isabelle King from the Safeguarding Collective, gives us an extended and comprehensive look into ensuring teams, internal and external, employed and volunteering, are well-versed in creating safe spaces for all. Host Madison takes Isabelle through the following:
• Volunteers must be supported as integral team members with proper onboarding, supervision and emotional support • Three foundational principles: volunteers should be supported, informed, and respected • Training must include basic safeguarding awareness, maintaining professional boundaries, and reporting procedures • Secondary trauma affects volunteers as much as paid staff—organizations have a duty of care to provide proper support • Faith communities face special challenges with boundaries as personal connections often overlap with volunteer roles • Volunteer engagement has evolved from informal helpers to formalized roles with clear expectations and proper integration • Clear safeguarding structures are essential in faith settings to prevent blurred lines and ensure proper reporting
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Ep 8 Can We Talk About Abuse in Faith? Understanding the Tough Topics with Tina Campbell
05 Mar 2025
00:32:17
In this episode, we meet Tina Campbell, an international safeguarding consultant with extensive international experience, to discuss why everyone is responsible for supporting safeguarding efforts within the faith community.
We dive into the role of leadership, and the shared responsibility of safeguarding. Tina shares insights on spiritual abuse, the challenges of addressing sensitive topics, and the significance of external consultants in implementing effective safeguarding policies.
Key takeaways
Safeguarding is a collective responsibility that requires active participation from all members.
Strong leadership in faith communities significantly enhances the effectiveness of safeguarding practices.
Spiritual abuse is a critical issue that needs more awareness and understanding within religious contexts.
Clear and accessible safeguarding language can empower communities to engage in safeguarding efforts.
Training on sensitive topics like coercive control and manipulation is essential for safeguarding.
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Ep 7 Proactive Safeguarding in Diverse Sectors with Simon Davies
05 Feb 2025
00:29:30
In this episode of Faithful Safeguarding, Madison Clarke speaks with Simon Davies, a former Australian Federal Police Detective and experienced safeguarding consultant.
With over 25 years in investigative work, Simon shares his insights on the importance of addressing low-level concerns before they escalate, the role of transparency in rebuilding trust, and why external safeguarding support can be a game-changer for organisations.
They also discuss the development of a safeguarding decision-making app, the increasing challenges of peer-on-peer abuse in educational settings, and the benefits of face-to-face training in promoting a proactive safeguarding culture.
Key Takeaways: 🔹 Safeguarding is a preventative approach, ensuring harm doesn’t occur. 🔹 Low-level concerns, if left unaddressed, can escalate over time. 🔹 The 'What Should I Do?' app helps guide individuals in reporting concerns. 🔹 Outsourcing safeguarding can be a cost-effective and practical solution. 🔹 Peer-on-peer abuse is an increasing concern in schools and youth settings. 🔹 Victim support should be prioritised from the outset of any investigation.
Discover more on some of the key mentions and resources from guest Simon below:
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Ep 6 Old Convictions, New Perspective with Dr. Karl Hanson
09 Jan 2025
00:35:41
In this impactful episode of Faithful Safeguarding, host Madison Clark from Petros engages with Dr. Karl Hanson, an expert in risk assessment and rehabilitation, to explore the concept of desistance and its significance in safeguarding practices.
The conversation delves into how criminal history impacts hiring decisions, the role of faith communities in supporting reintegration, and the balance between redemption and safety. Dr. Hanson emphasizes the importance of understanding the nuances of criminal behavior, the effects of time on risk, and the need for supportive environments to foster personal change.
Key takeaways
Desistance is a critical concept in understanding long-term safeguarding concerns.
Criminal history should be assessed in the context of time and personal change.
Faith communities play a vital role in supporting reintegration and providing a sense of belonging.
Redemption and safety must be balanced in faith settings.
Risk assessment tools can help evaluate the potential for reoffending.
The passage of time significantly reduces the likelihood of reoffending.
Supportive environments can help individuals with past convictions lead fulfilling lives.
Hiring managers should consider the context of past offenses when making decisions.
Advancements in research are reshaping how old convictions are addressed in safeguarding policies.
Long-term reintegration requires ongoing support and meaningful engagement.
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Ep 5 Creating Inclusive Safeguarding Practices with Anjum Mouj
31 Dec 2024
00:37:53
In this powerful episode, we welcome Anjum Mouj, a highly experienced trainer, facilitator, and consultant, who has dedicated her career to advancing safeguarding practices and creating safer, more inclusive spaces for all.
Key Takeaways:
How safeguarding policies should be intersectional and reflective of real, lived experiences.
The need for safeguarding frameworks to be adaptable and continuously evolving.
Practical insights into inclusive practices, especially around unconscious bias and marginalised voices.
The role of listening in building trust and fostering community resilience.
With a background in roles like Director and Training Manager at the London Black Women’s Project and Imkaan, Anjum brings deep insights into safeguarding practices that truly reflect the diversity of communities they serve. She currently trains with Solace Women’s Aid and has collaborated with the NSPCC to develop courses in child protection, supervision skills, and safer recruitment.
Our conversation covers the critical need for safeguarding policies to be living documents that evolve alongside the communities they aim to protect. Anjum emphasises the importance of intersectionality in safeguarding, highlighting how policies should account for diverse lived experiences, particularly those of marginalised groups.
She shares practical ways organisations can create safeguarding frameworks that are inclusive, sensitive to unconscious bias, and centred around individuals' real needs and circumstances.
We also discuss the significance of listening actively to marginalised voices and how inclusive practices can help build stronger, more resilient communities. Anjum’s passion for safeguarding shines through as she shares strategies for building trust, embracing diversity, and fostering belonging within safeguarding structures.
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Ep 4 How to Engage Children in Safeguarding with Di Gammage
07 Nov 2024
00:34:45
Episode Summary: In episode 4, we’re joined by Di Gammage, a registered child and adult psychotherapist with over 25 years of experience working in trauma and abuse. Di is qualified in dramatherapy and play therapy and has been invited to the UK Council for Psychotherapy Child Register due to her clinical experience and publications in child therapy.
Key Takeaways:
The significance of listening to children and empowering them in safeguarding.
How dramatherapy and play therapy can help children express their experiences.
Practical strategies to create trust and support in safeguarding environments.
The need for safeguarding systems to be adaptive, flexible, and responsive to children's needs.
Di has worked across various sectors, including co-directing the Sirona Therapeutic Horsemanship Project in Devon and consulting for social services. She is also the author of Playful Awakening and lectures on psychotherapy programmes in London, Yorkshire, and Athens.
In this conversation hosted by Madison Clarke of Petros, we focus on the importance of engaging children in safeguarding processes, ensuring their voices are heard, and empowering them to participate in decisions that affect their safety and well-being.
Di provides valuable insights into the therapeutic techniques she uses to help children express themselves, including dramatherapy and play therapy, and explains why listening to children is crucial in safeguarding.
We also explore how to create environments that foster trust and support, as well as how safeguarding systems can be adapted to better meet the needs of children, particularly those who have experienced trauma or abuse. Di’s passion for resilience and empowerment shines through as she discusses practical strategies for practitioners and faith communities alike.
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Ep 3 Disability & Safeguarding: Boundaries and Belonging with Father Justin Glyn
10 Sep 2024
00:23:05
Episode Summary: Meet Father Justin Glyn; a Jesuit priest, lawyer, and passionate advocate for disability inclusion within faith communities. Drawing from his personal experiences as a blind individual and his extensive work in disability advocacy, Fr Justin offers us a unique and profound perspective on how safeguarding practices can better serve those with disabilities.
Key Takeaways:
Importance of recognising and addressing the specific needs of individuals with disabilities in safeguarding practices
Understanding the concepts of boundaries and belonging and how they relate to safeguarding within faith communities
A critical examination of the traditional framing of disability as a subsection of safeguarding and why this approach may be limiting
Insights into the changing dynamics of vulnerability and power in the context of disability and safeguarding
Led by Host Madison Clarke of Petros, the discussion delves into the themes of boundaries and belonging, exploring how faith organisations can create truly inclusive environments that respect and protect the dignity of all individuals.
Fr Justin and Madison also tackle the changing nature of vulnerability and power, challenging the traditional approach of treating disability as just a subsection of safeguarding. Together, they discuss why this framing is insufficient and offer insights into how faith communities can rethink their safeguarding strategies to be more inclusive and effective.
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Guest Bio: Fr Justin Glyn is a Jesuit priest and lawyer, who, despite being blind, has become a leading advocate for disability inclusion within faith communities. His work focuses on promoting dignity, respect, and inclusivity for individuals with disabilities, challenging conventional perspectives on vulnerability and power.
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Ep 2 Theology and Safeguarding in Faith Communities with Professor Marcus Pound
06 Sep 2024
00:31:01
Episode Summary: Host Madison Clarke welcomes Professor Marcus Pound, a renowned theologian and a key member of the Global Safeguarding Alliance. With a deep understanding of both theology and safeguarding, Professor Pound offers a unique perspective on how faith communities can draw from theological principles to enhance their safeguarding practices.
Key Takeaways:
How theology informs and supports safeguarding practices in faith communities.
Insights from "The Cross of the Moment" report and its relevance to safeguarding today
Practical steps for faith leaders to incorporate safeguarding into their theological framework
Marcus and Madison explore the vital role that theology plays in shaping a community’s approach to safeguarding, discussing the theological underpinnings that can guide effective protection and support within faith organisations.
They delve into Professor Pound’s recent research, including his contributions to the 'The Cross of the Moment' report, which examines the intersection of theology and safeguarding in contemporary faith contexts.
Throughout the episode, they discuss practical ways in which theological insights can be applied to create safer, more inclusive environments, ensuring that safeguarding is not only a policy but a lived experience within the community.
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Guest Bio: Professor Marcus Pound is a distinguished theologian and a member of the Global Safeguarding Alliance. He has a profound interest in the intersection of theology and safeguarding, with recent work focusing on how faith communities can use theological principles to strengthen their safeguarding practices.
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Ep 1 Introduction to Safeguarding in Faith Communities with Professor Jo Clarke
06 Sep 2024
00:30:50
Episode Summary: In this inaugural episode of Faithful Safeguarding, your host Madison Clarke sits down with Professor Jo Clarke, Founder and Director of Petros, to explore the essential principles of safeguarding within faith communities.
Key Takeaways:
An overview of the basic principles of safeguarding: culture, recruitment, training, reporting, and recovery
The importance of creating a culture of safeguarding that is proactive rather than reactive
Practical steps for faith communities to improve their safeguarding measures
With over 23 years of experience as a forensic psychologist, Jo brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise in the areas of resilience, psychological well-being, and safeguarding practices.
Jo and Madison dive into the importance of safeguarding in faith organisations, discussing the fundamental principles that every community should embrace, including culture, recruitment, training, reporting, and recovery.
They also talk about how Petros supports faith organisations in building robust safeguarding frameworks that protect the most vulnerable members of their communities.
Whether you’re a safeguarding lead, a volunteer, or simply someone interested in the topic, this episode provides invaluable insights into why safeguarding is so crucial in faith settings and how to implement effective practices.
Next Episode: Join us next time as we welcome Professor Marcus Pound to discuss the intersection of theology and safeguarding, and how faith communities can integrate these principles into their practices.
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Guest Bio: Professor Jo Clarke is the Founder and Director of Petros, with extensive experience as a forensic psychologist in the criminal justice system. Her work focuses on resilience and psychological well-being, applying research evidence to enhance safeguarding practices within various organisations, including faith communities.