As a capstone to Pop Girl Summer, Sabrina Carpenter's new album, 'Short n' Sweet,' is here. Nora and Nathan talk about the wit and playfulness that runs throughout this album (1:00); how Carpenter is trying out a variety of sounds on this album, from R&B to yacht rock (26:21); and some of their favorite lyrics off an album with an array to choose from (41:53). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about the news and surprises that came out of Taylor Swift's final slate of European shows in London (1:00). Then they turn to Post Malone's first foray into country music: F-1 Trillion. They discuss how the rapper came to the genre (15:29), how seemingly every big name in country has a feature on this album (36:32), and their favorite and least favorite tracks on the record (55:26). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora talks about her experience at the Eras Tour in Edinburgh, Scotland (1:00). Then, Nora and Nathan talk about the meteoric rise of Chappell Roan and her 2023 album 'The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess.' They discuss how her career took off this summer after opening for Olivia Rodrigo and performing on NPR's 'Tiny Desk Concert' (16:05), what happens when an artist with a really passionate fan base breaks into the mainstream (30:59), and how the specificity of her songs turns them into hits (47:43). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan cover a grab bag of pop music news, including Sabrina Carpenter's announcement that her next album, 'Short n' Sweet,' is coming in August (1:00), whether or not Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish are feuding over releasing vinyl variants (15:21), and what surprise songs Taylor has been playing at Eras shows recently (38:31). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

At long last, Nora and Nathan cover Ariana Grande's 'Eternal Sunshine,' her seventh studio album. They talk about how this album seems to be lacking the viral hits that 'Sweetener' and 'Thank U, Next' had (1:00), whether this is a divorce album or if it's actually about Grande's relationship with the press (22:38), and the classic Max Martin production that can be found throughout the record (1:07:36). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about the third studio album from Billie Eilish: 'Hit Me Hard and Soft.' They discuss how Eilish is displaying new vocal ranges in songs like 'The Greatest' and 'Birds of a Feather' (17:32), her continued collaboration with her brother Finneas and whether or not she might branch out in the future (45:14), and how many songs on this album are about her discomfort with celebrity as a young artist (56:03). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan check in on the newly revamped Eras Tour setlist. They talk about the new 'Tortured Poets Department' section of the show, and which songs Taylor Swift chose to include (1:00), which songs she decided to cut in order to make room (36:12), and why she might have decided to change up the show even though tickets have already been sold out (48:39). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan are here to review and discuss Dua Lipa’s third album, 'Radical Optimism.' They start by talking about their journey with Dua Lipa (2:13). Then they get into the album, starting with what they think the biggest hit is (18:52). During their breakdown of the album, they talk about the best song, what they are cutting, and much more. They wrap up by discussing the collaborators on this album and what the next album appetizer is (1:00:41). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Isaiah Blakely Additional Production Supervision: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan give a few final thoughts about 'The Tortured Poets Department,' including what the charts can tell us about how people are listening to this album (1:00), and whether Taylor Swift albums can be properly reviewed anymore (34:25). Then, they talk about Sabrina Carpenter's song 'Espresso,' and how she's poised to be one of our next biggest pop stars (48:08). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Tortured Podcasters Department meets again, this time to open up the mailbag! Nora and Nathan answer a bunch of listener questions about whether their opinion has changed on any songs, what they want to hear next from Taylor, and much more (4:13). Then they answer rapid-fire questions, including one about how they think Taylor will incorporate this album into her tour (59:00). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producers: Isaiah Blakely and Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's the inaugural meeting of the Tortured Podcasters Department. Nora and Nathan discuss the rollout for this album and how Taylor Swift releasing an entire second album worth of bonus tracks affected it's reception (1:00), whether or not "Fortnight" is going to be the biggest hit off of this album (24:06), how Swift is grappling with her level of fame on a lot of the songs on this record (57:12), and the many, many, many easter eggs that are sprinkled throughout this album (1:17:32). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Less than a week away from the release of 'The Tortured Poets Department,' Nora and Nathan talk through some of the burning questions they have about this album. They talk about the five "stages of grief" playlists Taylor Swift released on Apple Music (1:00), what it means that this is most likely a breakup album about Joe Alwyn (13:18), and how this album might sound given that Jack Antonoff and Aaron Dessner are her main collaborators on it (27:54). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan cover a range of pop music news from the last few weeks, including Charli XCX's star-studded birthday party (1:00), who made it onto Barack Obama's annual summer playlist (17:16), why Katy Perry got in trouble with Spain because of the music video for her second single "Lifetimes" (23:45), and the Eras Tour shows that got canceled in Vienna (35:11). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan are here to break down the third album from Maggie Rogers, 'Don't Forget Me.' They talk about how the fact that the album was written over the course of five days impacted its sound (1:00), how she's moved away from the electronic sounds of 'Heard It In A Past Life' and toward the sounds of Linda Rondstadt and Sheryl Crow (32:05), and how her friendships play a major role on this record (48:01). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan take a look at Kacey Musgraves's sixth album, ‘Deeper Well.’ They start by talking about where they think Kacey is at in her career before getting into the album. They go through all the songs, talking about which were their favorites and least favorites (19:30), and at the end, they talk about what they are looking for from Kacey in the future. Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Isaiah Blakely Additional Production Supervision: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

'Cowboy Carter' is here, marking Beyonce's foray into country music—or has she been here all along? Nora and Nathan talk about the breadth of this 27-song album (1:00), the array of influences that Beyoncé pulled from for this project (39:13), and some of their favorite and least favorite songs (1:09:46). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With everyone from Beyoncé to Taylor Swift to Dua Lipa releasing albums this spring, Nora and Nathan are coming together to discuss them all. They talk about why we may be seeing this flux in album releases (1:00), what Taylor's been up to ahead of the release of 'The Tortured Poets Department' (24:03), and the bonus tracks on Olivia Rodrigo's 'Guts (Spilled)' (31:35). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan are back to cover a very busy spring for pop music. They'll be breaking down everything from Beyonce's 'Cowboy Carter' to Dua Lipa's 'Radical Optimism' and of course Taylor Swift's newest release: 'The Tortured Poets Department.' It's "Pop Girl Spring" starting March 28th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan convene for an emergency pod after Taylor Swift announced her new album, ‘The Tortured Poets Department,’ at the Grammy Awards on Sunday. They talk about how the announcement went over with her fan base versus in the room at the awards show (1:00), speculate on what the album is about based on the track list that was released yesterday (30:43), and discuss whether or not she worked with Jack Antonoff on this album or went in a different direction (52:32). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan are here to walk you through everything you need to know before two big Taylor Swift events: the Super Bowl and the Grammy's. They give a rundown on the Chiefs and the 49ers and how the game might go for Travis Kelce (1:00), the logistics of Taylor getting from Tokyo to Las Vegas in time for the game (37:01), and what squad she might be bringing along with her (60:14). Then they preview the Grammy's and make some predictions on what awards Taylor might be bringing home with her (1:08:15). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taylor Swift was named TIME’s 2023 Person of the Year, and in conjunction with that honor gave a rare interview for the profile. Nora and Nathan talk about why she might have decided to give the interview (1:00), some of the major revelations that came from the piece (15:58), and what it means for her future music that she’s in a very happy moment in her life (48:21). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Almost two weeks out from the release of '1989 (Taylor's Version),' Nora and Nathan open up the mailbag to talk about which of the rereleases have had the best vault tracks so far (1:00), which '1989' vault track they think Taylor Swift would make a music video for (45:37), and which album they think best represents Travis Kelce (1:01:51). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan break down the latest release in Taylor Swift’s re-recording project: ‘1989.’ They discuss if Max Martin not producing affected the re-recordings (1:00), which songs sound the most similar and different from their originals (35:51), and the five new vault tracks that almost sound like they could be found on ‘Midnights’ (51:17). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After having the two songs of the summer in "Espresso" and "Please Please Please," Sabrina Carpenter is gearing up to release 'Short n' Sweet.' So first, Nora and Nathan go back to her album 'Emails I Can't Send.' They talk about her transition from a "lowercase pop girl" to an "uppercase pop girl" (1:00), her drama with Olivia Rodrigo and Joshua Bassett that led to songs like "Skin" and "Because I Liked a Boy" (29:54), and what they anticipate from her with this next album (41:53). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan review the Eras Tour movie. They talk about their experiences in the theater (1:00), which songs got cut from the movie (21:35), and whether they would have liked to have seen more behind-the-scenes footage in the film (38:16). Then, they talk about "Tay-vis" (1:00:40) and the forthcoming release of '1989 (Taylor's Version)' (1:16:44). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's time to spill our guts. Nora and Nathan talk about the sophomore album from Olivia Rodrigo, the immense pressure she was under after the success of 'SOUR' (1:00), how Dan Nigro and other influences helped her develop the sound on this album (24:44), and debate whether or not songs like "the grudge" and "lacy" are about Taylor Swift (41:31). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about Taylor Swift announcing that ‘1989 (Taylor’s Version)’ is coming at the final show of the first leg of the U.S. Eras Tour (1:00), then reflect on this first leg of the tour as a whole, including how her hair became a character (23:25), which songs they changed their opinion about after seeing them live (36:16), and when we might expect to see a tour documentary (1:00:44). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about the news that Taylor Swift's concert in Seattle was so loud it caused seismic activity equal to a 2.3 magnitude earthquake (1:00). Then they gear up for the final US leg of the Eras Tour in LA, and debate whether or not she'll announce '1989 (Taylor's Version)' at one of the shows (24:03). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about Harry Styles's Love on Tour finally ending this week, and the rumors that Taylor Swift will do a second U.S. leg of her tour (1:00). Then, they draft their new favorite songs from 'Speak Now (Taylor's Version)' (17:16). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A little over a week after the release of 'Speak Now (Taylor's Version),' Nora and Nathan open up the mailbag to answer some questions and to continue processing their feelings about the album. They talk about why it seems like there has been less hype around the 'Speak Now' rerecord compared to previous ones (1:00), whether "I Can See You" undermined "Cruel Summer" as the song of the summer (31:59), and if we'll get a live version of this album (42:06). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan break down the most recent release in Taylor Swift’s rerecording project: ‘Speak Now.’ They talk about the songs where her voice has most obviously changed and how it is different (25:26), their favorite vault songs from this rerelease and where they might be pulling inspiration from (41:13), and an Easter egg from the “I Can See You” music video that hints that ‘1989 (Taylor’s Version)’ might be coming next (1:16:22). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Less than a week away from the release of 'Speak Now (Taylor's Version),' Nora and Nathan open up the mailbag to answer some listener questions. They talk about which songs off of 'Speak Now' they are most looking forward to hearing the rerecordings of (1:00), discuss whether the Eras Tour set list will be altered once the album is released (15:51), and make predictions for what the vault soundtracks featuring Hayley Williams and Fall Out Boy will sound like (26:36). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard talk about the rollout of 'Speak Now (Taylor's Version)' compared to her other albums (1:00), the speech she gave before playing "Dear John" as a surprise song (16:36), and the announcement of international dates for the Eras Tour (31:20). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard discuss 'The Show,' the latest album from Niall Horan. They talk about the lingering One Direction presence in his music (1:00), the surprisingly soulful song "You Could Start a Cult" (27:00), and what songs they might want to cut from this album (36:48). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In a spring and summer that has been dominated by female artists, Nora and Nathan talk about some of the male artists that have managed to break through on the charts: Post Malone, Zach Bryan, and Eminem. They discuss Post Malone's forthcoming country album and what it tells us about the evolution of Nashville's music scene (1:00), Zach Bryan's 'The Great American Bar Scene' and his rebellion against the music industry (27:16), and Eminem's 'The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce)' and whether the rapper has the capacity to shock anymore (53:48). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about the news that "Cruel Summer," from Taylor Swift's 2019 album, 'Lover,' was released this week as a single. They talk about whether the move could bump the song to the top of the charts (1:00) and why she might have decided to make "ME!" the first single off of 'Lover' instead (18:20). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Summer of Taylor Swift continues, with Nora and Nathan first addressing some outlandish Taylor Swift rumors that were floating around the internet this week (1:00). Then they talk about the meaning behind "You're Losing Me" (9:36) and two songs released with 'Midnights (The Til Dawn Edition)': "Snow on the Beach (Feat. More Lana Del Rey)" (24:25) and "Karma (Feat. Ice Spice)" (31:55). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Introducing the "Summer of Taylor Swift" series ... because there's a lot going on at the moment. To start off, Nora and Nathan take a note from the 'Fantasy Football Show' and do a take purge, airing all of their wildest takes about Taylor Swift. They talk about the length of her concerts (1:00), her very brief relationship with Matty Healy (31:30), and if we're ever going to see '1989 (Taylor's Version)' (59:25). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk with Niall Horan about his forthcoming album 'The Show' and the second single off of it "Meltdown" (1:00). Then they open up the mailbag to answer questions like: Will Taylor Swift release ‘1989 (Taylor's Version)’ soon (20:51)? Which surprise songs have they been most sad to miss on the Eras Tour (1:00:39)? And how do they think Taylor's recent breakup might affect her music and tour (1:06:33)? Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Guest: Niall Horan Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Eras Tour is finally here. Nora and Nathan break down the first two nights of Taylor Swift’s sold-out shows in Glendale, Arizona (or should we say Swift City, Era-zona). They talk about which songs they were surprised to see on the set list (1:00), her decision to include only one song from her ‘Speak Now’ album (20:19), and how she’ll maintain a 44-song, three-and-a-half-hour set over the next seven months (34:19). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan talk about Taylor Swift's recently announced 52-date stadium tour and how she'll possibly fit her catalogue of songs into one show (1:00). Then, they each build their ideal setlist (21:57). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A little over a week out from the release of 'Midnights,' Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard answer a few more questions about the album. They talk about which songs they have changed their opinions on the most (1:55), whether this could be considered a concept album (29:50), and which songs they most desperately need to hear live (53:11). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Meet me at midnight, Taylor Swift's new album 'Midnights' is here. Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard break down the album and talk about where else from her discography she's pulling from (1:00), the biggest songs off of the album (18:37), whether or not Swift will continue to collaborate with Jack Antonoff (65:00), and the meanings behind some of the lyrics on this album (1:15:07). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Surprise, surprise: Taylor Swift has 13 songs where she sings about midnight. Nora and Nathan go through and give their personal rankings for every song where Swift mentions either “midnight” or the “middle of the night.”   Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard are here to answer your questions about ‘Midnights;’ 13 of them to be exact. They talk about why Taylor Swift has seemingly paused her re-records in favor of putting this album out (1:00), what type of sound they hope ‘Midnights’ will have (30:57), what a potential Swift tour could look like (46:14), and what the heck is going on in ‘Midnights Mayhem With Me' (1:16:14).   Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan open up the mailbag to answer a few questions about our year in pop music so far. They make some predictions about who will win the Big Four Grammy Awards (Best New Artist, Album of the Year, Song of the Year, and Record of the Year) (1:00), discuss Kamala Harris's campaign's adoption of "brat summer" (26:47), and debate whether Taylor Swift will rerelease 'Taylor Swift' and 'Reputation' before the end of the Eras Tour (59:22). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's finally time to enter 'Harry's House.' Nora and Nathan talk about whether "As It Was" is the biggest hit off this album, or if there are other songs in contention (9:28). They also discuss songs on this album where Harry shows more vulnerability (30:25), plus all of the references to food, drugs, and alcohol that happen throughout (47:26). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nora and Nathan and joined by longtime One Direction fan Kate Halliwell to answer a few mailbag questions. They talk about whether or not they want any kind of One Direction reunion and what that would look like (10:26) and what songs the band will be known for 20 years from now (42:36). Then, Nora and Nathan draft their favorite One Direction songs and songs from the boys' solo careers (1:10:57). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Guest: Kate Halliwell Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

So what happened to all of the other boys after One Direction split up? It's time to talk about Zayn, Louis, and Liam's respective solo careers. Nora and Nathan talk about Zayn Malik's hit "Pillowtalk" and his turn toward R&B music (8:36), Liam Payne leaning into club music with songs like "Strip That Down" and "Familiar" (46:55), and Louis Tomlinson being inspired by bands like Oasis (55:26). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is 'Heartbreak Weather' one of the most underrated albums of 2020? Nora and Nathan are going to make a case for it. They talk about their love for the song "San Francisco" (14:14), the heavy soft-rock vibes on this album (29:10), and what could possibly be coming next for Niall (46:29). Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices