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205. Gratitude for What Each Enneagram Type Brings to the Workplace
29 Nov 2025
00:47:45
In the spirit of Thanksgiving, this episode is a celebration of the people you work with; the ones who keep projects moving, solve problems behind the scenes, strengthen relationships, and hold your team together in ways that often go unnoticed.
Instead of focusing on potential friction points or growth edges, we’re taking a moment to appreciate the strengths each Enneagram type brings to a team and why your workplace is better because of them. Whether you lead people, work closely with a diverse group, or simply want to feel more grounded in gratitude, this episode gives you language to recognize and celebrate the nine unique ways people contribute.
What You’ll Hear for Each Type:
Type 1 – Striving to Feel Perfect: Integrity, follow-through, and the commitment to doing things right.
Type 2 – Striving to Feel Connected: Empathy, support, and the ability to make people feel seen.
Type 3 – Striving to Feel Outstanding: Drive, momentum, and the energy that inspires others into action.
Type 4 – Striving to Feel Unique: Creativity, emotional depth, and the ability to bring meaning into the work.
Type 5 – Striving to Feel Detached: Calm clarity, expertise, and thoughtful problem-solving.
Type 6 – Striving to Feel Secure: Group cohesion, preparedness, and forward-thinking protection for the team.
Type 7 – Striving to Feel Excited: Optimism, adaptability, and the ability to bring possibility into any conversation.
Type 8 – Striving to Feel Powerful: Passion, advocacy, and the willingness to speak the truth plainly.
Type 9 – Striving to Feel at Peace: Stability, inclusion, and a grounding presence that keeps teams connected.
A Thanksgiving Invitation:
Take one moment this week to share appreciation with someone on your team, whether you know their type or not. Name one strength you see in them. The smallest acknowledgment can change someone’s entire experience at work.
204. Enneagram Type 4: Striving to Feel Unique - How It Shows Up at Work
24 Nov 2025
00:33:38
In this episode of Enneagram at Work, we're continuing the 9 Types Overview Series with a deep dive into Enneagram Type 4: Striving to Feel Unique, often called The Individualist or, in the Awareness to Action framework, The Visionary.
This episode explores how Type 4s bring creativity, emotional depth, and originality into the workplace, and how their search for meaning and authenticity shapes their leadership, communication, and team dynamics. You’ll learn how this type adds emotional depth and richness to teams, where they can get stuck, and how to better collaborate with people driven by purpose and identity.
What You’ll Learn:
The core motivation or "root logic" behind Type 4’s drive to feel unique
Why Type 4s are often the emotional and creative heartbeat of a team
How strengths like depth, empathy, and originality can become overused
How Type 4s approach work, purpose, and self-expression
How the 3 instinctual biases create different expressions of Type 4 energy
Growth practices using their arrows to Type 1 and Type 2
How to give and receive feedback in a way that feels safe and meaningful
Try This at Work:
If you’re a Type 4: Practice grounding your ideas in structure. Ask, “What’s the smallest step I can take today?”
If you work with a Type 4: Invite their perspective. Ask what something means to them, not just what they think about it.
For Teams & Leaders:
Type 4s bring heart, storytelling, and emotional intelligence to teams. They help organizations connect to purpose, humanity, and meaning. But they can also feel misunderstood, left out, or undervalued if their emotional world isn’t acknowledged.
Teams that work well with Type 4s make room for both performance and meaning, honoring feelings without letting them derail progress.
195. Why We Rely on 1s, 2s & 6s at Work with Co-Host Demetrius "D" Parker
13 Sep 2025
00:49:25
Before we dive in: Most of our work at Enneagram MBA is rooted in the Awareness to Action model developed by Mario Sikora and team. But from time to time, we like to explore other Enneagram approaches and insights that come up in the workplace and coaching conversations. This is one of those episodes, so you may hear some differences from the ATA model we typically use.
In this episode, I’m joined again by my co-host, Demetrius (“D") Parker, as we continue our Coworker Chemistry series. Last time, we looked at the high-energy types (3, 7, and 8). This week, we shift gears to talk about another powerful trio: Types 1, 2, and 6, commonly known as the dutiful types.
These three strategies bring such a strong sense of responsibility and group cohesion to their work and teams, though they each express it in different ways. In our conversation, we covered:
Type 1 (Striving to Feel Perfect): integrity, high standards, and the pressure of an inner critic.
Type 2 (Striving to Feel Connected): empathy, connection, and the challenge of people-pleasing.
Type 6 (Striving to Feel Secure): loyalty, risk-awareness, and the courage it takes to ask hard questions.
We also dig into how these types can complement one another, where they might clash, and what growth looks like for each...from turning “the way” into “a way,” to setting clear boundaries, to transforming fear into collaboration.
Whether you identify with a 1, 2, or 6 (or work with someone who does), I think you’ll find this episode full of both practical insights and real-life examples you can take back to your team.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode
The strengths and blind spots of Types 1, 2, and 6.
Why these types are often the backbone of teams.
Stories and analogies (including the “Mafia boss” and the six’s “BS meter”) that bring these strategies to life.
Practical tips for collaboration, leadership, and personal growth.
And stay tuned! Our next episode will cover the remaining group: Types 4, 5, and 9.
D and I both facilitate workshops on behalf of Enneagram MBA. Learn more about the options and booking your team's end-of-year experience with us over at enneagrammba.com.
105. How Can Type Nines More Confidently Make Decisions? feat. Felecia Holmes, Sober Life Coach and Real Estate Agent
04 Jul 2023
00:52:09
Why do Type 9s struggle to face conflict? What can they do to shift their people-pleasing tendencies to more self-care practices? How can Nines be more confident in their decision-making?
These are just a few of the topics real estate agent and Enneagram and Sober Living life coach, Felecia Holmes opens up about with her own self-growth journey.
Whether you relate to Type 9 or have a Nine in your life, you'll leave this conversation with deeper insight into the core motives and fears and how to better understand the Peacemaker energy.
As a life coach, Felecia specializes in working with women to help them achieve their personal goals by identifying and owning the issues that are causing them anxiety, stress, and distress.
Learn more about Felecia's sober coaching and Enneagram life coaching programs: https://www.ownitforgood.com/
Connect with Felecia on social media and let her know what you're taking away:
104. Which Enneagram Types Get Along Best at Work? feat. Executive Coach and Former Founder, Nathan Parcells
27 Jun 2023
00:20:11
What types work best together?
This is a question that comes up during team workshops and while there are no types that work "best" together, it can be helpful to understand the strengths each type can bring to a working relationship, to their team, and to the organization. It can also be valuable to know what potential challenges you might face working with someone who might share a very different perspective than you.
Regardless of your type, the insights Nathan shares will give you new things to think about when it comes to better understanding yourself and those that you work with.
103. What Benefits do Type 1's Bring to a Team? feat. Katy Lumsden and Linda Kolean
20 Jun 2023
00:54:49
Do you get frustrated when others don't follow the rules?
Do you strive to take things from good to great and have the precision and plan to make them happen?
Do you have a very loud and very harsh inner critic?
Is it perfection or nothing at all?
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You might be an Enneagram Type One...
Learn more about the energy behind a Type One at work to understand yourself better --- or someone you work with inside this conversation.
You'll get a few clues and hopefully, some clarity about the Type 1's: ✔️core motive ✔️superpower ✔️common behaviors ✔️ problem-solving style ✔️way they get things done
And, you'll hear from informants, Katy Lumsden and Linda Kolean, about life and work on the "inside" as a Type 1.
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Katy is a self-proclaimed Noisy Introvert, an expert in the HR, Organizational, and Leadership Development space, and a best-selling author and founder of Know No Bounds.
Connect with Katy here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-lumsden-noisy-introvert/
Linda does sales support, sales operations, supply chain, and project management in the pharmaceutical space.
Connect with Linda here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-kolean-42198a103/
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Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
102. Can Fictional Characters Help You Use the Enneagram? feat. Kate Hallock, Author
13 Jun 2023
00:49:56
Is Batman a Type 1?
Is the Hulk a Type 2 or Type 9?
What type is Peter Pan?
And more importantly, why does it matter?
In this fun and light-hearted episode, we're delving into a unique approach to understanding Enneagram types. We'll be exploring how fictional movie characters can provide valuable insights into the nine Enneagram types, helping us deepen our understanding of ourselves and others.
You'll also get to hear from Nine Ways to Die: An Enneagram Murder Mystery, author Kate Hallock who shares her experience and insights with using fictional characters to better understand the Enneagram and ultimately the other people in your life.
Kate is a writer who loves taking non-fiction topics and turning them into engaging fiction. Her Debut novel, Nine Ways to Die: An Enneagram Murder Mystery, takes the concepts of the Enneagram and displays them in the fun puzzle of a murder mystery.
She's also the podcast host of the show, "Nine Ways To..." and identifies most with the Enneagram Nine.
101. What are the Biggest Pet Peeves for Type 7's at Work?
06 Jun 2023
00:51:13
Do you tend to look on the bright side, and can find the good in almost any situation?
Are you easily fascinated by interesting people, events, and ideas?
Do you find yourself always coming up with new, visionary ideas?
Do you dislike limits of any kind and prefer to keep your options open?
If any of these resonate, you might be an Enneagram Seven.
Or maybe you see these qualities in a co-worker?
Either way, when you listen in, you'll learn more about the Enneagram Type 7 strategies and hear from two real-life experiences to help better understand yourself or your teammates.
Connect with our Case Study "informants," Ellen and Kate, to let them know what resonates with you most about what they shared:
100. What is the Co-Worker Compatibility of Type 2 and Type 8?
30 May 2023
00:59:15
Do Type 2s and Type 8s get along at work?
What should each type know about working with each?
What should they know about working with someone of the same type?
Join us for this co-worker compatibility conversation with Hannah, Sarah, and Julie from the Cincinnati Children's Hospital as we explore the strengths and challenges of their individual Enneagram types in the workplace and gain valuable insights on each type's communication style, collaboration preferences, and personal growth realizations.
When you listen in, you'll hear about:
how Hannah, a Type 8, thrives in her strength while navigating vulnerability and being misinterpreted
Sarah, a Type 2, shares her empathetic nature and passion for helping others, even at her own expense at times.
Julie, also a Type 8, and the importance of standing up for those without a voice and the impact of gender dynamics on other Enneagram Type 8s
This episode is perfect for anyone looking to better understand their Type 2 and Type 8 teammates.
Connect with the panel over on Linkedin:
Sarah Coyle , Donor Relations Officer II, Champions Program Manager, has been working for Cincinnati Children’s for almost 5 years and has the honor of working with families who want to get involved and share their stories to encourage hospital support. https://www.linkedin.com/in/saracoyle/
Hanna Firestone, Donor Relations Officer I, Special Events, started at Cincinnati Children’s in June of 2022 where she is instrumental in executing fundraising events for the hospital. https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannafirestone/
Julie Spendal, Donor Relations Officer II, Annual Giving, helps donors connect to the community, as well as raise funds and awareness for kids and families in need. https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-spendal-322818a3/
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Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
99. Can the Enneagram Really Help You Get Along Better with Your Boss?
23 May 2023
00:50:54
Do any of these types of bosses sound familiar?
A brand new boss, someone you’ve never met before.
A manager you don’t see face-to-face because she works in another location
An insecure boss (hint: it’s important to know how to tame his ego)
An all-knowing
An indecisive boss
A manager who gives you conflicting messages
A long-winded boss
A hands-off boss
A manager who isn’t as smart as you
A boss that’s actually a board of directors, rather than a person
In a 2015 Harvard Business Review article, called What Everyone Should Know About Managing Up, these 10 types were outlined as potential team member-leader challenges.
No matter what type of manager you have, there are some skills that are universally important.
You need to know how to anticipate your boss’s needs
You need to understand what makes your boss tick (and what ticks her off) if you want to get buy-in for your ideas
You need to know the best way to bring a problem to your boss (based on their personality) and be able to navigate sticky situations together
In today's episode, we're learning from Joy M. Pederson, Ph.D. on how to specifically use the Enneagram in all of these situations to manage up.
Listen in to get insight and a quick tip about working with each Enneagram type of boss.
98. How Do You Use the Enneagram with Remote Teams? feat. Type 8 Co-Founders Cathy Decker and Stacy Royal
16 May 2023
00:40:22
Remote work is a bit of a hot topic in the working world right now.
There's the camp of full-time in the office, different hybrid models, and full-time remote teams.
There are benefits and advantages to each, and of course potential challenges with each.
In today's episode, we're talking with the Principles and Co-Founders of The Decker/Royal Agency (2023 Inc's Best Workplace Winner), Cathy Decker and Stacy Royal, on how they've used the awareness they've gained from the Enneagram to navigate some of the challenges of a fully remote team and to better understand:
their own leadership styles as Type 8's
the co-leadership dynamic with each other
each member of their team more deeply to better communicate and collaborate
and... their clients.
Do you work on a remote team? How have personality tools like the Enneagram been beneficial? Drop any insights or experiences you have at enneagrammba.com/contact and I'd love to share them on a future episode!
Learn more about Cathy and Stacy and the work they do with their team at The Decker Royal Agency over at: https://www.deckerroyal.com/
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Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
97. How Do You Start a Difficult Conversation with Any Personality Type? feat. Jill Shroyer, Expedition HR
09 May 2023
00:57:11
Have you ever found yourself at a loss for how to handle a difficult conversation at work?
Whether it's frustration over having the same difficult conversation repeatedly, or not knowing how to bring it up to even start the conversation, our guest today, is going to walk us through how to start a hard conversation with any Enneagram type.
Jill Shroyer, the CEO & Lead Consultant of Expedition HR and the author of the best-selling book, Conquer Sticky Situations, is bringing her 20+ years of HR experience to this conversation, as well as all of her Type One strengths :)
In this episode, you’ll learn how to move through her 5-step formula for having difficult conversations with almost any topic - and what tweaks might need to be made based on the team member's personality style.
Jill’s approach is both effective and compassionate, so regardless of what Enneagram type you identify with, or have on your team, you’re going to leave with some very tangible scripts for having these important conversations.
Learn more about Jill's HR subscription model to have your own HR Director on demand with all the support, tools, and resources, a growing team needs: https://www.expeditionhr.com/subscription
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96. What Should You Know About Working with a Type 9? feat. Tim Brokopp | Enneagram Case File Series
02 May 2023
00:43:26
Do you avoid conflict like the plague?
Are you known for being calm and steady?
Do you sometimes say "yes" when you really want to say "no?"
Do you work hard, but don't like being the center of attention?
Do you find yourself "going with the flow" rather than "rocking the boat?"
If any of these rang true, you might be a Type 9....
To better understand the Enneagram Type 9, whether for yourself or someone in your life, check out this replay of a "case file review" featured Type 9 guest, Tim Brokopp.
Tim is the Director of Business Development and Sales for Blink Tech Solutions and Founder and Executive Director of AMOVEO Group.
Learn more about Tim and connect with him over on Linkedin:
194. BONUS - Enneagram Types 3, 7 & 8: How to Tell the Difference feat. Co-Host, "D" Parker
06 Sep 2025
00:28:26
Still wondering if you’re a Type 3, 7, or 8 on the Enneagram?
In this bonus conversation, co-host Demetrius “D” Parker (Type 3) and I (Type 7) break down the similarities and key differences between these high-energy types. From what “gut punch” clues reveal your true type to how instincts and personality expressions can look very different, this episode offers insights for anyone navigating their typing journey.
Whether you identify with Type 3’s drive to be outstanding, Type 7’s need for excitement, or Type 8’s push for power and control, you’ll find practical reflections to help you clarify your type and better understand your strengths.
95. What Does Race Have to Do With the Enneagram? feat. Jessica Denise Dickson, Type 8
25 Apr 2023
00:59:12
The Enneagram is a system that applies to individuals of all races and ethnicities.
However, it's important to note that the Enneagram, like any personality typing system, can be influenced by a variety of factors, including cultural and social conditioning.
Individuals from different racial and cultural backgrounds will probably have different experiences and perspectives that can affect how they interpret and apply the Enneagram - and how they "show up" as that type. It may not look like the stereotypical behaviors we see shared on social media.
Certain Enneagram types may be more common or valued in certain cultural contexts - like those in Asian cultures valuing both being perfect (Type 1) and being successful (Type 3).
And so, it's important to approach the Enneagram with sensitivity and awareness of these potential cultural and social influences, and to recognize that individuals from different racial and cultural backgrounds may have different experiences and perspectives on the Enneagram.
In this interview, life empowerment coach and Enneagram guide, Jessica Denise Dickson provides more insight and context into using the Enneagram to actually do the work and grow, both as an individual and in our understanding of others.
Listen in to hear more about:
What mistakes to avoid in the typing process
Jessica's own typing journey that includes taking 20+ quizzes and tests
How your culture, family systems, religion, and social expectations also impact how you "show up" as your Enneagram type
The cons of using the TriType theory
How growth may look different for the same Enneagram types and vary based on gender and race
How to start on your growth path regardless if you know your type or not
How the Enneagram and Anti-Racism work expand us
How your type may have helped you stay in privilege and bypass and what is there to let go of
What embodiment actually means and all the things it's made up of
How to use the Enneagram in the workplace as a manager or leader
94. How Can the Internal Family Systems Model Compliment Your Enneagram Journey? feat. Katie LaCelle
18 Apr 2023
00:47:13
Calling all worn-out overachievers, caretakers, and people pleasers...
Do you consider yourself highly successful in your professional life but struggle when it comes to making time for yourself?
Have you been to therapy and/or tried lots of recommended “self care” but STILL can’t seem to figure out how to stop feeling so exhausted all the time?
Are you frustrated that you can’t seem to find a way to balance your professional goals and personal dreams in a way that allows you to actually enjoy life?
Figuring out how to find calm moments and peace in your busy, everyday life is no simple task...especially when everyone is telling you you need to DO more and you need to BE more in order to qualify as "enough."
But, that is exactly what our featured guest does.
Katie LaCelle is a strategic coach, leadership coach, and IFS (Internal Family Systems) coach who runs her company, Cressana, to help others create their own guide to what actually brings them peace and joy while still supporting their passions and daily responsibilities.
In this episode today, you'll get an introduction to how Katie does that using parts work and the IFS model as a way to better understand yourself and what you actually need - and how to incorporate what you've learned about yourself using the Enneagram into that process.
93. What Should You Know About Working with a Type 5? feat. Kathy Farah | Enneagram Case File Series
11 Apr 2023
00:44:28
Do you prefer to work alone and find it incredibly annoying to be interrupted while you work?
Does getting recognized for your depth of knowledge and know-how make you feel appreciated?
Do you find yourself wishing people would leave their personal life and drama at home? Or almost immediately zone out when someone starts sharing a personal story that isn't directly relevant to the work or team?
Have you ever procrastinated because you needed to gather more information?
If you answered to yes to these, you might be a Type 5!
Listen in here to learn more about the Enneagram 5 energy, whether you're trying to narrow down your dominant type ...or looking to better understand a Type 5 in your life.
Kathy Farah will be our informant, sharing life on the "inside" as we open up this week's Case File.
Kathy helps business owners who need to get critical tasks off their plates so they can focus on growing their businesses and supporting clients work with me to customize their backend systems to be more efficient and profitable.
92. What Enneagram Types Don't Know They're in a Burnout Cycle? feat. Hillarie Kay
04 Apr 2023
00:46:43
A recent Forbes article reported that 84% of Gen Z experience burnout along with 74% of Millenials and 47% of Baby Boomers.
What is causing all this burnout? And what can we do about it?
In this episode, Enneagram coach, speaker, and author, Hillarie Kay shares her insights into what's behind this burnout epidemic and how knowing our Enneagram type can better help navigate through it.
Listen in to hear more about:
The typing mistake most people make that led her to think she was a Type 8 at first and how she uncovered her true type as a Three.
The problem of separating our personal and professional life
The difference between stress, overwhelm, burnout
How to determine where you are in a burnout cycle
How to use your arrows (aka resource points) to identify stress
Tips for helping you narrow down your dominant Enneagram type
How to avoid burnout altogether and how to get out if you’re already in it
How knowing your Enneagram Instincts can help you be in balance
Connect with Hillarie and join her next group coaching program at:
Season 4 officially kicks off next week! Listen in to this week's welcome episode to know what to expect going into this new season....AND how to land an interview on the show!
🤳Are we connected yet? If not, find me below and say hello!
90. Enneagram for Entrepreneurs: Build an Aligned Business by Studying These 9 Pieces
08 Dec 2022
00:32:53
I'm guessing if you're listening to this one, you have a business that you started around something you love or a cause you're passionate about.
But, over time that love and passion have been known to fade because of all the other things that are required of you to run a successful business.
That light for your business can start to dwindle and instead of inspiring you, it can start to drain you.
Part of this is just the normal ebb and flow of running a business.
And part of it might because there are certain things out of alignment with your personality, interests and strengths.
The more you know about yourself and your entrepreneur style, the more ease and enjoyment you can put back into your business.
In this episode, you'll learn 9 pieces of the Enneagram to dig into more to uncover specific parts of how your type and your work and creator style can overlap to create a business that fits into your whole life, not the other way around.
1. Insight about your sales style 2. Alignment around what you sell and how you deliver it 3. Specific challenges based on your Center of Intelligence 4. Understanding the energy you bring to going after what you want and getting your needs met using Stances 5. What stress looks like for you and what to do about it 6. What growth looks like for you and when to celebrate wins 7. Better understand you clients and customers using conflict style insight 8. What reoccurring obstacle you may be running into based on your specific type 9. What unhelpful message you'll need to work to turn down the volume on based on your type's Childhood Message
89. The Skills and Strengths that Can Sabotage a New Leader with Jodi Flynn | Women Taking the Lead | Type 3
01 Dec 2022
00:48:57
You've probably heard the saying, "What got you here, won't get you there."
In this interview episode with leadership consultant, executive coach, host of the Women Taking the Lead podcast, keynote speaker, and Type 3, Jodi Flynn, you'll learn one of the biggest mistakes new leaders make, especially women, that can leave them overworked and questioning if they are cut out for this new level of leadership.
It has to do with letting go of the mentality of success that got you this promotion because it no longer works at this level.
You'll learn how to avoid this mistake (it happens to the best of this!) and instead how to set yourself up as a sustainable, successful leader that has a full life in and out of work.
When you listen in, you'll also hear from Jodi on:
important questions to consider like "what does it look like to hit a wall?"
the power of good enough
when it's okay not to bring your A-Game
why the workplace isn't always set up for women to get and succeed in a promotion
one thing that can sabotage new leaders - and what to do about it
signs it's time for a break - and how to know you're ready to come back
when you might need to reset your podcast to better align with your business
the impact a podcast can have on your sales strategy
88. A 2-Question Enneagram Test and How You'll Know When You Find Your Type
24 Nov 2022
00:23:47
What if you could start to uncover your Enneagram type, or help someone else start to uncover their Enneagram type, in just 2 questions?
With the holidays coming up I thought this would be a fun and practical episode to share in case you wanted to nerd out and share the Enneagram with your family and friends.
While tests can be anywhere from 60-90% accurate, they can be a great starting point when you're new to the Enneagram. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ There is a 144-question typing test that I use during my Know Your Number "Enn-Focus" Typing Sessions. It takes about 30 minutes to complete with about an 80% accuracy, so there's still some additional digging needed. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ But, if you're not ready for that yet, there is the 2-question Riso-Hudson QUEST Test will help you narrow down your type in less than five minutes with about a 70% accuracy. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ TEST RULES When you go thru the questions: ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ 1) Select just one paragraph in the following two groups that best reflects your general attitude and behaviors as you have been for most of your life. Remember we have all 9-types inside of us, but one particular style is our "home base."
2) You do not have to agree completely with every word or statement in the paragraph you select. You may only agree with 80-90%. You should, though, agree with the general philosophy of the paragraph - don't pick it just because of a single world or phrase.
3) Do not overanalyze your choices! Go with your gut.
TAKE THE TEST HERE: https://www.enneagrammba.com/blog/enneagramtest ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ How will you know when you've finally discovered your type? ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ --> You will just know - waves of relief and embarrassment and excitement will wash over you.
--> Things that you have always known unconsciously about yourself will suddenly become clear and patterns will emerge. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ 💡 ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Self-discovery is a process, and that the process does not end with discovering your type - really, it's just the beginning! ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ . ✨
87. 3 Ways to Use the Enneagram in Your Job Search
17 Nov 2022
00:32:36
Are you on the hunt for your next career?
Maybe you're fed up with where you've been.
Or maybe you're getting back into the job market after being at home parenting kids, taking care of a parent, or healing from a health issue.
Regardless, of why you're ready, this episode's intention is to help you get ready by focusing on three parts of the job search process and how to apply the Enneagram in each one:
1) Prework: Getting Clear on a Direction Study yourself, understand what's not working in your current role, what is that you'd like to take with you, and what you would prefer in the next chapter using insight and information taken from your Enneagram type. This is foundational for setting a clear path as to what role would be a great fit for you, what type of company culture you prefer, and what type boss would bring out the best in you.
2) Writing a More Accurate and Effective Resume Drop the "hardworking" and "positive attitude" characteristics and use the Enneagram to validate and embrace your natural strengths (not everyone has them!), give you clear and meaningful language to explain your past experiences, and effectively communicate what makes you unique.
3) Getting Your Questions Answered During the Interview Take advantage of getting to ask questions at the end of your interview and ensure you get valuable information from them by asking specific questions about your role, your working environment, company culture and your manager's priorities and communication/leadership style to help you more clearly see what's a "heck yes!" and what might be "not a good fit" based on how those things overlap and compliment (or drain) your energy.
Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
86.{Special Veterans Day Episode} How Military Experience Impacts Your Enneagram Type | Type 3 or Type 8? feat. Vicky Johnson, Army and Air Force Veteran Officer
10 Nov 2022
00:35:24
How is your personality impacted by military service?
How might it make uncovering your Enneagram type a little tricky?
Inside this special Veteran's Day episode, you'll hear from Army and Air Force Veteran and CEO/Owner of VJ and JJ Property Management in Reno, NV, Vicky Johnson about how she's noticed her Type 3 or Type 8 Enneagram typing journey impacted by 30-year military career.
You'll hear about what core qualities of each type she's had to step into as a military officer, as well as which qualities she no longer resonates with as she develops as a professional and along her personal growth path.
Even if you don't identify with either Type 3 or Type 8, tune in to gain valuable insight about the 3s and 8s in your life.
Thank you again to Vicky for her service and to any listener here who's also served - we're celebrating you this Veteran's Day!
193. Workplace Relationships with High Energy Types (3, 7, & 8) with Co-Host Demetrius "D" Parker
06 Sep 2025
00:54:39
Before we dive in: Most of our work at Enneagram MBA is rooted in the Awareness to Action model developed by Mario Sikora and team. But from time to time, we like to explore other Enneagram approaches and insights that come up in the workplace and coaching conversations. This is one of those episodes, so you may hear some differences from the ATA model we typically use.
What happens when three of the most high-energy Enneagram types (Threes, Sevens, and Eights) work together?
In this conversation with guest co-host Demetrius “D” Parker, we dig into the unique strengths and challenges of these assertive types, how they interact with each other, and the dynamics they create with other styles on a team.
We also explore practical growth paths for each type, helping them channel their drive, enthusiasm, and power into stronger professional relationships and sustainable leadership
If you happen to still be on your typing journey and stuck between two or all three of these types, be sure to check out the bonus episodewhere D and I talk about the similarities and key differences between these three to give you additional insight and reflection points as you narrow down your top type.
85. Using Therapy (and the Enneagram) to Understand What You Need During a Hard Time feat. Christie Rocha | Sass Says Host | Type 3
03 Nov 2022
01:10:29
Are you ever in a difficult time and know what you've been doing isn't working, but aren't sure what would work better?
There is a ton of great advice out there for how to take care of ourselves and navigate through challenges.
The problem happens when it may not be great advice for yourself, for whatever reason.
Inside this episode, you'll learn how therapy (and the Enneagram) can help you better understand yourself and what you actually need in a difficult time.
Our guest and guide through this conversation is, Christie Rocha, mother of two, former corporate employee, now running a family business, and keeping up with a successful podcast, Sass Says.
She opens up about how she landed herself in therapy and the life changing benefits that have come from it - including the launch of her podcast where she interviews therapists and other mental health experts inside "therapy sessions you didn't know you needed."
You'll also hear about:
what leading can look like even when you don't have every duck in a row
the shame and guilt of not being happy, even when you "should" be
how she's started to unpack diet culture and the hate we can have for our bodies
what we get wrong about self care
how to join in on her weekly "Mental Health for Content Creators" Instagram series
Sass Says episodes Christie mentioned during the interview:
84. When Quitting is Powerful | Leveraging Type 4 Energy in Business | feat. Tiffany Napper, Business Coach for Creatives
27 Oct 2022
01:00:47
Tiffany Napper is a former Creative Director who produced massive photo shoots for artists like John Legend and Elton John. She's started and ran five successful product and service-based businesses. And now, Tiffany is a Business Coach to creative entrepreneurs who helps her clients make bank without the burnout.
Inside this interview you'll hear about:
finding joy in your business or career journey again
when it might be time to quit
being a successful multi-passionate entrepreneur
the secret to starting more than one business
deciding what to focus on next
why you shouldn't turn every hobby into a business
the importance of self-awareness as a business owner
why curiosity is key in leader
Tiffany also identifies as an Enneagram Type 4 and shares a ton of insight that energy's superpowers and struggles. We go into how:
she knew she was a Type 4
she uses the drive to be significant and unique in her business
her superpower of empathy and understanding others shows up
she brings a big vision to life
to deal with mundane tasks that can feel hard
to handle comparison triggers
she sees the Type 1 arrow benefit her and her business
she incorporates the Type 5 wing into her marketing data and strategy
83. 9 Practical Ways Managers and Leaders Can Use the Enneagram | Enneagram in Organizations 2022 Global Survey
20 Oct 2022
00:33:41
Would you be curious to know how other people are using the Enneagram at work? And what benefits they're experiencing from it?
If you're here listening to a show about the Enneagram, I'm going to take a wild guess and assume, yes :)
That's great because in this episode we're using the 2022 Enneagram in Organizations Global Survey to guide this conversation about how managers and leaders can use the Enneagram with their teams.
You'll learn 9 specific ways (you only need to start with one!) that have been inspired by my own experiences, workshop feedback, and learnings from other teachers and mentors, so that you can turn your Enneagram information into a meaningful transformation for your team and organization.
New Hire Onboarding (3 ideas)
Giving more meaningful feedback (and how to deliver it)
In the hiring process
Providing personalized growth paths for each team member
Growing everyone's capacity for empathy and understanding of one another
Understanding your team's sales or customer relations strengths and possible obstacles
Improving customer, client, and vendor relationships
Ethically influencing each member of your when new initiatives are rolled out or company goals are communicated
Noticing the different ways each team member expresses and manages stress to avoid burnout and help them navigate through a stressful work situation
82. Building a Healthy Co-Founder Relationship Using the Enneagram feat. Nathan Parcells | Type 4w3
13 Oct 2022
00:52:49
Nathan Parcells is an Executive Coach and owner at Sharpened Coaching, helping co-founders build better partnerships. He's a co-founder himself so in addition to bringing his expertise and training to clients, he's bringing years of real-world experience navigating his own co-founder relationships.
This episode is very practical and very specific as Nathan shares with us three types of co-founder relationships, looking at both the partnership strengths and possible challenges with that pairing. Regardless of your type, the insights he shares will give you some new things to think about when it comes to better understanding yourself and those that you work with.
Co-founder Matchups
Type 3 and Type 8
Type 8 and Type 9
Type 1 and Type 3
In addition to the matchup insights, you'll also hear about:
Nathan's own startup founder journey
his biggest tip for getting the most out of applying it
what he sees as the most helpful aspects of the Enneagram
his experience having a coach and what to look for when hiring one
one thing he's laser focused on getting better at as someone with Type 4 energy
helping co-founders manage burn out and when needed, navigate a successful exit
81. Applying Personality Assessments in Real Life with Heidi Dexter | Type 7 [Part 6 in Personality Assessments at Work Series]
06 Oct 2022
00:45:46
When you think of the traits that make up your personality, are you viewing them as all the things that are "wrong with you?"
Often times in my own personal experience and Enneagram teaching experience, the more we learn about ourselves it's the "negative" qualities we tend to focus on first.
Inside this final episode of the Personality Assessments at Work Series, you'll hear from Heidi Dexter, Type 7w8, head of customer experience at Beauty Culture Med Spa, and self-growth student on how she's shifted her thinking over the years from personality deficiencies to her personality strengths - and some things for you to think about to do the same.
Over the last 5 episodes you've heard about different personality assessments to help you better understand yourself, and others, at work:
When you listen in to episode 81 you'll hear Heidi sharing how she's applied what she's learned from her personality assessments (some of them being new ones you haven't heard of before!) both at work with her team and clients and in her relationships as a spouse and parent.
You'll also get some additional insight on life as a Type 7 with that 8 wing energy that you can use to narrow down your own Enneagram type or better understand someone in your life with that 7 energy.
Listen in to hear more about Heidi's real life application of personality assessments and how she's using them to grow one bite at a time.
80. How to Fascinate with Your Personality feat. Madelyn Ridgeway | Type 6w5 [Personality Assessments at Work Series]
29 Sep 2022
00:48:48
Do you have a good idea of how others see you?
With the Enneagram, a lot of what we uncover is about ourselves and other people.
But, how helpful would it be if there was a tool that gave you an additional perspective of how others see us and more specifically, how we fascinate them?
So fun, right?
That's exactly what you'll hear more about inside this conversation with CBE Companies Diversity Director, Personal Branding Strategist, and Certified Fascinate Advisor, Madelyn Ridgeway.
When you listen in you'll get the overview of the 7 Fascinate Archetypes to help you to start narrowing down your own:
The Innovation Archetype - uses the language of creativity and new ideas
The Passion Archetype - uses the language of relationships (buy-in)
The Power Archetype - uses the language of confidence
The Prestige Archetype - uses the language of excellence
The Trust Archetype - uses the language of stability
The Mystic Archetype - uses the language of listening
The Alert Archetype - uses the language of details
You'll also learn how to start to apply your dominant and secondary advantages to the work you do and the roles you have, and what you need to know about using your dormant advantage.
Get connected with Madelyn to learn more about how to find and use your Fascinate Archetype:
79. Building Better Relationships at Work Using DiSC with Nancy Marmolejo | Type 7 [Personality Assessments Series]
22 Sep 2022
01:01:54
Would you describe your preferred working style as dominating, influencing, steady, or conscientious? Maybe a blend of two?
The DiSC assessment can compliment what you've learned about yourself through the Enneagram by sharing both validating insights and and new perspectives about your preferences and tendencies. Like the Enneagram, it should be used for dialogue, not a diagnosis.
To help us jumpstart that conversation and be able to use and apply the DiSC to our own personal growth journey and relationships at work, we have DiSC certified, leadership trainer, and owner of Talent and Genius, Nancy Marmolejo on the show today.
Inside Part 4 of our Personality Assessment Series, you'll learn about what DiSC is and the 4 main styles within the framework:
The D (Dominance) Style prioritizes getting immediate results, taking action, challenging themselves and others and is motivated by power and authority, competition, winning, and success (sound familiar Type 8s and 3s? :) )
The i (Influence) Style prioritizes expressing enthusiasm, taking action, encouraging collaboration and is motivated by social recognition, group activities, and friendly relationships (Type 7 anyone?))
The S (Steadiness) Style prioritizes giving support, maintaining stability, enjoying collaboration and is motivated by stable environments, sincere appreciation, cooperation, and opportunities to help (sensing some Type 2, 6, and 9 - What do you think?)
The C (Conscientiousness) Style prioritizes ensuring accuracy, maintaining stability, challenging assumptions and is motivated by opportunities to use expertise or gain knowledge and attention to quality (hearing some Type 1 and event Type 5 in there?).
The only Enneagram type that I didn't see a direct DiSC Style correlation with was the Type 4 (which you probably appreciate :)), but what do you think? Where do you see this energy show up on the DiSC?
And more importantly, where do you see yourself? How does that overlap (or not!) with your Enneagram type?
78. Identify Your Natural Gifts Using CliftonStrengths with Melissa Moore | Type 3 [Personality Assessments Series]
15 Sep 2022
00:48:10
Gallup Certified Training Manager, Melissa Moore is our guest expert today on the Enneagram MBA podcast in Episode 78 of our special Personality Assessments at Work series.
Inside this conversation you'll get a crash course into the 4 CliftonStrengths Domains:
Strategic Thinking
Relationship Building
Executing
Influencing
And how to use them along with what you know about your Enneagram type.
You'll also hear about:
What is a Floor strength and when to use it
Why you don't actually have weaknesses and how to think about them instead
A review of real assessment results as an example
How CliftonStrengths compliments the Enneagram
What the chances are of having the same top 5 strengths as someone else
How teams can get results from group trainings
How women can get the most from this information to increase confidence
What resonates most with Melissa about the Type 3 energy and how her own CliftonStrengths results overlap
77. What the Kolbe Tells You About How to Grow a Business Your Way with Elizabeth Cook, Type 6 [Personality Assessments Series]
08 Sep 2022
00:55:38
When it comes to data and information, are you a bottom line person who prefers a quick answer or do you like to get (and share) all the details?
To accomplish a goal and get through a project, do you prefer a lot of structure and processes or do you more often find yourself winging it along the way and more flexible in your approach?
Do you have a lot of ideas that you jump into and experiment with or are you more deliberate, protecting what's already working and doing your best to remove uncertainty?
Just like with the Enneagram, there are no wrong answers. This is information that the Kolbe gives us understand about ourselves to help know our natural gifts and preferences for solving challenges and taking action.
Inside this interview with Elizabeth Cook, Certified Kolbe Consultant she walks us through the 4 areas of our work style we can gain a deeper understanding of:
1) Fact Finder - how you gather and share information
2) Follow Thru - you best way of organizing; how much structure and organization you need
3) Quick Start - your method for dealing with risk and uncertainty
4) Implementer (Demonstrator) - all about your deal with physical space and tangible items
You'll also hear about:
How is it different from the Enneagram
How to use the information you learn about yourself from Kolbe and Enneagram together
What the Kolbe can tell an entrepreneur about how they can most naturally grow their business
How a business partnership or team can use the Kolbe to better understand how each works best
My own Kolbe results that Elizabeth helped me interpret
Life and leading as a Type 6
What about the Type One also really resonates with Elizabeth
and stay tuned for the end to hear how she defines her best life - it's so good!
76. Getting to Know Yourself Better Using 360 Reviews, Tara Nesser, Type 7 [Personality Assessments for Work Series]
01 Sep 2022
00:45:06
Experts tell us that our unconscious mind makes a majority of our decisions. Which means, most of the time, we're cruising through life on autopilot.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing.
It would be impossible to be constantly "awake" to every thought, feeling, and behavior. We absolutely need autopilot turned on. The problem happens when our autopilot never gets a tune up.
Left unchecked, these blind spots, or unconscious biases, can end up steering your life, possibly in a direction you don't want to be going in.
Identifying these blind spots is the first step to course correcting, but doing it on your can be difficult - hence the name - "blind spot." :) So, what do you do then?
Getting feedback from others can be tremendously helpful in uncovering where you might be running on autopilot in a way that's not serving you, and also what strengths you have you may not realize you have.
Our guide today for learning more about how to get feedback from trusted sources and conduct a productive 360 Review (and how absolutely not to do one), is Level Up Talent CEO and Founder, Tara Nesser.
Inside this interview with Tara you'll learn so much about being a new or emerging leader including:
common challenges new leaders face and how to navigate around them
the importance of self-awareness as a growing leader
why she focuses on both strategy and mindset in her leadership coaching
what life and leading is like with the Type 7 energy
Tune in to this first episode in the Personality Assessments at Work Series and let Tara know what you're taking away with you!
192. When Strategy Meets Strength: Type 5 and Type 8 Coworker Chemistry Explained
30 Aug 2025
00:44:07
What happens when you pair the bold intensity of a Type 8 with the thoughtful reserve of a Type 5? That's what we're talking about today!
In this episode of Enneagram at Work, we explore how Type 5s (The Strategist) and Type 8s (The Commander) work together in the workplace. While they may look like opposites on the surface, their differences can be exactly what makes them powerful collaborators...if they learn how to navigate the friction points.
Here’s what you can expect in this episode:
Why Type 5s and 8s respect each other’s independence and competence
How they balance sustainable strategy with decisive action
The biggest friction points that show up around pace, energy, and control
How instinctual biases (Preserving, Navigating, Transmitting) add an extra layer of chemistry - and why people sometimes confuse these two types when typing themselves
If you’ve ever felt pulled between being the quiet observer or the bold decision-maker, or you’re managing these styles on your team, this episode will give you a practical look at turning tension into teamwork.
👉 Did you know coworker chemistry is one of the biggest factors in team performance? At Enneagram MBA, we help leaders and teams use the Enneagram to improve communication, reduce friction, and deepen connection. Learn more about our workshops at enneagrammba.com
75. Leading From Where You Are with Fan Experience Consultant and Career Coach, Jahaan Blake, Type 2
25 Aug 2022
01:00:02
When you hear the word leader what comes to mind?
Is it a person in a power suit leading from the front of a room?
Maybe someone leading a big team, inside a big corporation?
Leading as an owner of a business?
Leading a large community online or from a big stage?
I'm going to guess, if you're like a lot of people, the initial image wasn't of yourself.
Maybe because you don't have the title or a team yet, or you don't own a business, or because you don't have "that many" people in your community yet. Or maybe people you just don't feel like you have the personality for it.
Whatever the reason you may not feel like a leader (yet!), inside today's episode you'll learn how to start operating with a leader mentality and leading from wherever you are this minute.
Our guest today is Jahaan Blake - fan experience consultant in the sport and entertainment industry, career coach to high-achieving women wanting to land leadership positions in that industry, and host of the Game of Her Own podcast.
Listen in to hear about:
the 4 traits of a successful leader
how to start leading from where you are
leading as an introvert
and Jahaan's personal experience leading as an Enneagram Type 2
Connect with Jahaan and learn more about how to work with her:
74. The Dos and Don'ts of Navigating a Career Change with Mollie Lo, Type 3, Lotus Mentoring
18 Aug 2022
00:57:39
Mollie Lo helps millennial women hack the job search process so they can land a career they desire and deserve. And she does it with her Enneagram Type 3 energy.
Inside this conversation with Mollie, you'll learn more about how to find the best job for you and what NOT to do if you're wanting to stand out among all the other candidates.
Listen in to hear:
What Type 3 strengths she sees herself using the most as an entrepreneur
What struggle she's had to navigate through and what we can all learn from it
How to identify your dream job even if you have no idea what that is yet
What every stand out resume must have have
What you should never do in any interview
Insights about getting a higher salary
and more!
If you're not already, be sure and subscribe so you can be notified when other informative and inspiring interviews like Mollie's are shared each week. And if you know of someone else who would enjoy this conversation, please share!
73. How Being in Nature Can Improve Your Leadership and Life with Pam Cho - Type 2, Trek Executive Coaching
11 Aug 2022
00:53:05
Pam Cho is the Principal and Senior Executive Coach at Trek Executive Coaching. And she identifies as an Enneagram Type 2.
Inside this conversation with Pam, you'll learn more about how bringing the outdoors into your business and company can benefit your leadership and your overall life.
Listen in to hear:
What in the world is "forest bathing"
The science backed benefits of being around trees
How certain symbols in nature can unconsciously help us relax
What she sees as some of the biggest challenges for leaders right now
Her journey from employee to entrepreneurs
Success stories of real leaders using nature's benefits in their careers
What Type 2 strengths she sees show up in her career
A common struggle of Type 2s she's had to work through that we can all learn from
If you're not already, be sure and subscribe so you can be notified when other informative and inspiring interviews like Pam's are shared each week. And if you know of someone else who would enjoy this conversation, please share!
Welcome back! Next week officially kicks off Season 3 and to prepare I wanted to give you the inside scoop on what to expect.
Inside this announcement episode you'll hear the new intro (I love it - it's so fun!), the theme for Season 3, a sneak peek on series you'll be hearing in September, and other types of interviews, guests, and topics we'll be covering.
Thanks for being here. I'm really excited about this next season and can't wait to reconnect with you!
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Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
The Enneagram Type 3 is known as the Achiever, the Performer, or the Role- Model, striving to feel outstanding, accomplished, and successful.
The Enneagram Type 7 is known as the Multi-tasker or the Enthusiast, striving to feel excited, satisfied, and fulfilled.
These two types are common "look-alikes" that can get confused by their energetic personalities, future focus, forward-moving energy, and positive outlook on life. They both love a good plan, but for different reasons, and both can juggle multiple projects and can get bored easily.
There's also some key differences that you'll learn about in this episode, including each type's:
effort around focusing
motives behind planning
relationship with options and limits
ability to see a project through
core driver behind their job or business
If you know of someone else that might be helped by this, please share!
Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
The Enneagram Type 1 is known as the Improver, the Reformer, or the Perfectionist, striving to feel perfect, good, right, and correct.
The Enneagram Type 5 is known as the Expert, the Observer, or the Investigator, striving to feel self-sufficient, capable, and informed.
If you're still struggling to narrow down your dominant Enneagram type between these two, this video will give you additional insight into some of the key differences, including how each of them:
handles conflict
manages stress
makes decisions
sets boundaries (or doesn't...)
and experiences feelings
Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
69. Behind the Scenes of the Enneagram MBA Makeover: Using Your Enneagram Type to Align Your Business or Career
30 Jun 2022
00:41:54
Have you been thinking about a change in your career? Or a pull in a new direction with your business?
Inside this unofficial Season 2 finale...
For the curious, you'll hear about some of the reasoning behind the recent changes to the Enneagram MBA brand - from the colors, to new offers, from a new website, to the social media strategy.
And for anyone looking to make changes in their own career, business, or life in general, tune in to hear about the specific pieces of my type (7) and subtype (Social or Navigating) I used to let go of some old ways and more confidently embrace and move forward in a more aligned direction.
I hesitate to say "new" or "pivot" because these changes feel more like a natural evolution, but the insight I took into consideration with the Enneagram helping me hold up a mirror, made me more confident about the changes and the timing.
Even if we have different Enneagram types and subtypes, the intention for this episode is
A) give you insight into the brand and what to expect so you can decide to stick around or not (of course I hope you do!) and B) to further study your own dominant type and subtype to see what clarity and direction they might offer in your own upcoming changes.
Was this helpful? I'd love to hear from you! Connect with me on Instagram or Linkedin and let me know anything that resonated or that you'd add to the conversation!
The Enneagram Type 7 is known as the Multi-tasker or the Enthusiast, striving to feel excited, satisfied, and fulfilled.
The Enneagram Type 9 is known as the Peacemaker or the Harmonizer, striving to feel peaceful and calm, both internally and with the world around them.
They are two of the most optimistic types on the Enneagram, typically choosing to avoid hard feelings and difficult conversations, but for different reasons. Both of these types tend to embellish reality more than the other types, perceiving things better than they really are.
But, with those similarities, there are also key differences that you'll hear about in this episode to help you narrow it down between the two, including:
the different type of optimism each type expresses
how they view interruptions
handling distractions
their orientation to time
getting their needs met
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Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
67. The 2 Most Common Mistakes in Coaching Contracts with Maria Spear Ollis, Type 2
23 Jun 2022
00:50:10
Are your service contracts laying out clear boundaries to help you build a sustainable business that you don't burn out from?
Is your website protected from the 5 legal blindspots?
Do you know the difference between a trademark and copyright? And when does your business need one or the other?
If you're like me, and aren't sure, don't worry.
Inside this interview with Maria Spear Ollis of Spear IP Law, you're going to get all these questions, and more, answered for how to create a healthy, long-living business (or as long as you want) that you run, not that runs you.
You'll also get an insider's look into what being a Type 2 entrepreneur is like and how she's worked to build healthy boundaries and developed rituals that allow her to take care of herself, not just others.
Learning from Maria is like learning from your friend with a law degree. Her advice is not only pure gold, but also approachable and easy to understand.
66. Common Relationship Challenges by Enneagram Type with Natalia Hernandez
16 Jun 2022
00:30:42
What if you could know right now what the recurring challenges were going to be in your future relationship?
Or if you better understand the repeat issues that keep coming up in your current relationship and what most likely will trigger the next fight?
My guest today isn't a mind reader or a physic, but she's going to lay it out for us using her relationship expertise with the Enneagram.
Relationship and Enneagram Coach, Natalia Hernandez is back this week to share one of the most common challenges each Enneagram type will face in their relationships --- and what to do about it so it doesn't keep happening.
Feeling incompatible with your partner? Learn more about The Compatible Couple where Natalia will guide you and your partner through a 4-week Enneagram for Couples experience.
191: Who's Teaching the Enneagram Teachers? A 2025 IEA Conference Recap feat. Demetrius "D" Parker, Trust Leadership Collective
23 Aug 2025
01:01:00
The Enneagram is everywhere - from yoga retreats to C-suite boardrooms, therapy sessions to prison programs. But who’s guiding the guides? What trends, challenges, and conversations are shaping the future of this powerful tool?
In this episode, I'm joined by Demetrius Parker, a leadership development expert and Enneagram MBA facilitator, for a behind-the-scenes look at the 2025 International Enneagram Association Conference in Minneapolis. It wasn’t just a conference, it was an experience. From poetry and DJ sets to neuroscience and relationship sessions, we talk about what’s changing in the Enneagram world and what still needs protecting.
We talk about:
What made the IEA Conference feel like a full-body experience, not just a professional event
Conversations with Enneagram thought leaders like Russ Hudson, Suzanne Stabile, and Mario Sikora
How the Enneagram is expanding beyond its spiritual roots and into boardrooms, government offices, even the military
The importance of doing your homework before teaching the Enneagram
How to use the Enneagram as a path, not an identity
Whether you're an experienced facilitator, an Enneagram enthusiast, or a leader looking to apply personality insight in your team, you’ll walk away with inspiration and insight from the people shaping what’s next in this space.
🛠 Resources & Links:
Learn more about Demetrius Parker and Trust Leadership Collective
65. Life as a Type 7 Entrepreneur with Natalia Hernandez, Enneagram and Relationship Coach
09 Jun 2022
00:29:46
Are you constantly getting new ideas? Do you love a good brainstorm session? Do you have a natural ability to put a positive spin on almost anything? Are you always seeking out the next exciting adventure or new experience?
If so, you might be an Enneagram Type 7.
Sevens are known as the Enthusiasts, the Optimists, the Multi-taskers or the Visionaries.
They are innovative, enthusiastic, funny, witty, inspirational, creative, big-picture thinkers, charming, and action-takers.
Sometimes that same energy can lead to being impulsive, irresponsible, coming across as shallow, having a short attention span, needing to always be stimulated, and having a lack of commitment or follow-through (you know, just in case something more exciting comes along).
Natalia Hernandez is our guest today is a relationship coach and life coach specifically for Type 7s. Inside this episode, you'll get to hear her personal experience of life as a Type 7 entrepreneur - what's helped her be successful and what can get in her way.
She shared several great resources that you can find below, along with getting connected with her and learning more about how to work with her.
Natalia is also a relationship coach and in next week's episode we zoom out the conversation to talking about all 9 Enneagram types and one challenge they each face in communication and in love based on that type, so definitely be sure to come back!
64. How to Successfully Join Someone Else's Team with Speaking Your Brand CEO Carol Cox, Type 5 and Lead Coach Diane Diaz, Type 6
02 Jun 2022
01:01:09
Have you been running a business of your own and love your clients and the work you get to do with them, but aren't so in love with the backend tasks of creating funnels, new promotions, accounting, etc. etc. and wish you could just focus on helping people?
Inside this interview with Speaking Your Brand CEO, Carol Cox (Type 5), and Lead Speaking Coach, Diane Diaz (Type 6), you'll get an inside look into what that could look like for you, including:
what it's like to join someone else's team as a former entrepreneur and what to consider before you make the change
what bringing in a lead coach to your team looks like and why you may want to consider that option
what parts of Carol and Diane's unique personalities have each contributed to a successful and fun working partnership
If you happen to identify with either the Type 5 or Type 6, I think you'll feel so seen inside this conversation :)
And if you don't, you're going to get such an insightful look into those in your life with possible Type 5 or 6 energy.
Top Tool Recommendations: Carol's favorite - Loom for recording processes to help with delegating Diane's favorite - Voxer to stay connected and get quick questions answered ---
Not sure what your Enneagram type is yet, but want to?
63. Turn Your Content into Cash Using Pinterest with Presh Rodgers, Type 3w2
26 May 2022
00:50:08
Should your business be on Pinterest?
You may already feel like trying to keep up on social media is taking up all your time as it is, so why, and more importantly, how would you add another thing to manage?
Or maybe you're already on Pinterest and while you're getting lots of views and even website visits, nothing is happening with your bank account so you're wondering if it's even worth it?
Inside this interview with Pinterest Badass, Presh Rodgers you'll learn about why Pinterest isn't just another social media platform and how to harness its power for authority building, feeding your funnels, and ultimately growing your business. And as a Type 3 striving to be outstanding, you'll also hear how Presh helps her clients be outstanding on Pinterest!