Embodiment for the Rest of Us – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 12: Season 4 Wrap-Up

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up season 4 by reviewing their words of the year for 2024 and 2025, renewed invitations for unmasking while recording, re-commitments to anti-oppression, and season 5 coming in 2026!

Content Warning: Mention of the multiple genocides occurring globally

Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-12-season-4-wrap-up/#captions

A few highlights:

2:06: Chavonne and Jenn discuss their words for 2024 and 2025

3:22: Jenn and Chavonne share how these words have shown up in their lives and the podcast

10:41: Chavonne and Jenn discuss cultural shifts in embodiment, including a re-commitment to anti-oppressive direction

Links from this episode:

Imani Barbarin

Intersectionality

Matrix of Domination

Morgan Harper Nichols

Neurodivergence

Nicola Haggett

Dr. Rachel Fox

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

BlueSky: @embodimentrestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 11: Nikki Haggett

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Nikki Haggett (they/she) in a deep dive about relating across difference, murmuration as metaphor, and a sacred unmasking.

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of the multiple genocides occurring globally,discussion of fascism, mention of childhood sexual abuse

Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-11-nikki-haggett/#captions

A few highlights:

12:37: Nikki discusses the idea of embodiment while recognizing our own neurodivergence

30:05: Nikki discusses how training to be a Gestalt therapist is impacting their own embodiment

1:20:56: Nikki shares help she helps clients them notice how to stay embodied or even purposefully disembodied

1:33:59: Nikki discusses what’s next for them

Links from this episode:

Ableism

Adam Wolfond

Autism

Autistic Masking

Bodymind

Co-regulation

Exteroception

Gestalt Therapy

Interoception

Dr. Margaret Price

Murmuration

Sanism

The Telepathy Tapes

Window of Regulation

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: EmbodimentForTheRestOfUs.com

BlueSky: EmbodimentRestOfUs

Instagram: @EmbodimentForTheRestOfUs

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 2: Deep Dive with Tiana Dodson

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment and children.

Content Warning: discussion of sexuality

Trigger Warnings:

1:45:30: Tiana uses “insane” in a way that is ableist

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-2-tiana-dodson/#captions

A few highlights:

7:06: Tiana discusses how children are embodiment teachers

59:32: Tiana shares how capacity and capability are distinct parts of embodiment

1:19:36: Tiana discusses creating and fostering foster relationships of liberation

1:37:00: Tiana shares what she’s doing next 

Links from this episode:

ADHD

Autism

Being You: A First Conversation about Gender

In This Body: Finding Liberation Virtual Conference

Liberation is a Relationship

Love Notes For A New Year

The Nap Ministry

Neurodivergence

Other People Are In The Way of Your Liberation

RAADS-R

Reclaiming Ugly

Rest is Resistance

Sex Positive Families

We Make the Path

Yes: Your Empowered Sexuality

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 1: Season 4 Intro Episode

Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) introduce Season 4!

Content Warning: None in this episode

Trigger Warnings: None in this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-1-season-4-intro/#captions

A few highlights:

2:02: Jenn and Chavonne share their words for 2024 

20:27: Chavonne and Jenn discuss exploring disability and neurodiversity in Season 4 

32:46: Jenn and Chavonne discuss their commitment to justice and liberation related to the most marginalized humans and bodies in the world 

Links from this episode:

How To Keep House While Drowning

Imani Barbarin

Morgan Harper Nichols IG Post

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 13: Wrap Up Episode

Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up Season 3!

Content Warning: None in this episode

Trigger Warnings: None in this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-13-season-3-wrap-up-episode/#captions

A few highlights:

2:13: Jenn and Chavonne discuss how processing and practicing rest changed and challenged them in 2023

13:14: Chavonne and Jenn discuss capability vs. capacity in their personal and professional lives

23:39: Jenn and Chavonne discuss what they’re looking forward to next year for the podcast

Links from this episode:

Love Jenni K

Mikey Mercedes

Neurodivergence

Whitney Trotter

Whole Self Counseling

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 12: Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Lisa Daughters (she/her) and Fawn McCool (she/her) about their embodiment journeys.

Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/loss, fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, relationship challenges, family dynamics - these are all near and dear to her. She has been serving clients as a professional counselor for 12 years, working with a variety of settings and concerns. She works from a person-centered approach, using humor, mindfulness, and acceptance as tools of healing and transformation. She believes in the need to broaden our view from seeing individual struggles as collective, moving towards solutions that foster interdependence and equity. She approaches counseling as a co-creation, and considers her role to be an insightful companion through the process. She trusts the inherent wholeness of each individual. I have specific training in Expressive Arts Therapy, which utilizes art-making as therapeutic. 

Lisa is strongly anti-diet and diet-culture. She is involved in the fat liberation movement. And it's impossible to talk about body politics without talking about racism, misogyny, and ableism. She is anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. She loves animals and spent years before becoming a therapist working with animals. She believes current social and economic structures have stripped our sense of community and our emotional experiences have been villainized and pathologized to the point that mental health is a growing challenge. She thinks it's a disservice to focus only on individual health without also addressing community. She does not believe in the paternalistic dynamic that she has seen in the mental health world, and she thinks to do my work well she has to be continually learning.

*

Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, collaborative, engaged, and nerdy. She loves brain science so there MIGHT be some mention of neural plasticity or blaming of neural pathways along the way. She will shame the patriarchy, never you.

As an LCSW, she has worked in a variety of settings providing skilled trauma-informed services to families, women and children. She offers clinical therapeutic services in Tigard, OR and enjoys working with a wide variety of issues including but not limited to: trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, perinatal/postpartum mood and anxiety disorders, infant loss, and fertility issues .

She received her Masters of Social Work degree at California State University, Los Angeles in 2006. Her professional credentials include certification in Interpersonal Neurobiology through Portland State University and is Ample & Rooted trained.

Additionally, she has had the honor of presenting at several professional conferences focused on Neonatal Intensive Care Unit experiences, neuroscience & birth trauma, and behavioral health counseling in school based health centers.

She is an anti-racist, LGBTQ+ affirming, and HAES provider. 

Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

40:28-53:29: Chavonne’s audio goes a bit wonky

Trigger Warnings: 

34:22: Fawn mentions Noom and Ozempic

49:42: Lisa uses the words “crazy” and “nutty” in a way that is ableist

The captions for this episode can be found at 

https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-12-lisa-daughters-and-fawn-mccool/#captions

A few highlights:

7:08: Lisa and Fawn share their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges. They also discuss how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for them.

1:01:15: Fawn and Lisa discuss how supporting clients has changed and challenged their own relationships with their embodiment

1:46:47: Lisa and Fawn discuss how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

1:57:48: Fawn and Lisa share where to be found and what’s next for them

Links from this episode:

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents

Dr. Dan Siegel

Neurodivergence

Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 11: Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Fawn McCool (she/her) and Lisa Daughters (she/her) about their embodiment journeys.

Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, collaborative, engaged, and nerdy. She loves brain science so there MIGHT be some mention of neural plasticity or blaming of neural pathways along the way. She will shame the patriarchy, never you.

As an LCSW, she has worked in a variety of settings providing skilled trauma-informed services to families, women and children. She offers clinical therapeutic services in Tigard, OR and enjoys working with a wide variety of issues including but not limited to: trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, perinatal/postpartum mood and anxiety disorders, infant loss, and fertility issues.

She received her Masters of Social Work degree at California State University, Los Angeles in 2006. Her professional credentials include certification in Interpersonal Neurobiology through Portland State University and is Ample & Rooted trained.

Additionally, she has had the honor of presenting at several professional conferences focused on Neonatal Intensive Care Unit experiences, neuroscience & birth trauma, and behavioral health counseling in school based health centers.

She is an anti-racist, LGBTQ+ affirming, and HAES provider. 

*

Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/loss, fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, relationship challenges, family dynamics - these are all near and dear to her. She has been serving clients as a professional counselor for 12 years, working with a variety of settings and concerns. She works from a person-centered approach, using humor, mindfulness, and acceptance as tools of healing and transformation. She believes in the need to broaden our view from seeing individual struggles as collective, moving towards solutions that foster interdependence and equity. She approaches counseling as a co-creation, and considers her role to be an insightful companion through the process. She trusts the inherent wholeness of each individual. I have specific training in Expressive Arts Therapy, which utilizes art-making as therapeutic. 

Lisa is strongly anti-diet and diet-culture. She is involved in the fat liberation movement. And it's impossible to talk about body politics without talking about racism, misogyny, and ableism. She is anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. She loves animals and spent years before becoming a therapist working with animals. She believes current social and economic structures have stripped our sense of community and our emotional experiences have been villainized and pathologized to the point that mental health is a growing challenge. She thinks it's a disservice to focus only on individual health without also addressing community. She does not believe in the paternalistic dynamic that she has seen in the mental health world, and she thinks to do my work well she has to be continually learning.

Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

Trigger Warnings: 

39:23: Lisa discusses getting bariatric surgery

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-11-fawn-mccool-and-lisa-daughters/#captions

A few highlights:

15:05: Fawn and Lisa shares their understanding of embodiment and their own embodiment journeys

1:07:56: Fawn and Lisa discuss how the pandemic has affected their embodiment practices 

Links from this episode:

All Cats Are On The Autism Spectrum

All Dogs Have ADHD

Bibliotherapy

Brianne Benness

Depersonalization

Derealization

Dr. Dan Siegel

Executive Functioning

The Family Experience of PDA

Girls on the Run

Kymber Stephenson

Neurodivergence

Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 10: Whitney Trotter

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Whitney Trotter (she/her) about their embodiment journey.

Whitney Trotter (she/her) is dually licensed as a Registered Dietitian, Nurse, and yoga instructor and is currently working on her doctorate degree to become a psychiatric nurse practitioner. Whitney has over ten years of experience working as a registered dietitian serving various communities such as the HIV/AIDS community and the eating disorder field. Whitney also previously worked at a Level 1 Pediatric Trauma Center as a Pediatric emergency room nurse. In addition to working as an RDN and RN, Whitney has served as a member of her county's Rape Crisis Center. Her work at the Rape Crisis Center equipped her to co-found an anti-trafficking organization Restore Corps, where she now provides medical training to the community focusing on human trafficking response. 

Whitney's career in the Eating Disorder field includes being a former Nutrition and Nursing director of a Residential, PHP, and IOP center. Whitney is also the owner/founder of Bluff City Health, a private practice that bridges the gap in the eating disorder field of equitable care and social justice. This past year Whitney created the first-ever BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference and started #BIPOCEatingDisordersAwarenessWeek

Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-10-whitney-trotter/#captions

A few highlights:

4:21: Whitney shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

8:10: Whitney discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices 

14:26: Whitney shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

24:46: Whitney discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

43:58: Whitney shares how her education and career have changed and challenged her relationship with her own embodiment 

51:18: Whitney discusses her process in co-creating the BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference

1:10:31: Whitney shares her experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems

1:19:27: Whitney discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

1:26:05: Whitney shares where to be found and what’s next for her

Links from this episode:

Ableism

Angela Goens

BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference

Body Trust

Fatness Spectrum

Intersectionality

Marquisele Mercedes

Relative Fat vs. Absolute Fat

Tiana Dodson 

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 9: Mikey Mercedes

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Mikey Mercedes (she/they) about their embodiment journey.

Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes (she/they) is a fat liberationist writer, creator, educator, and doctoral student from the Bronx, New York. As a Presidential Fellow at the Brown University School of Public Health, she works at the intersection of critical public health studies, fat studies, and scholarship on race/ism, examining how racism, anti-Blackness, and fatphobia have shaped health care, research, and public health. 

Mikey is also a co-host of the podcast Unsolicited: Fatties Talk Back, which explores the lived fat experience from diverse vantage points to examine fatphobia in our relationships and culture. Her socials are @marquisele on Twitter, @fatmarquisele on Instagram, and Patreon.com/marquisele on Patreon. Their website is also marquiselemercedes.com

Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, discussion of medical fatphobia

Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-9-mikey-mercedes/#captions

A few highlights:

3:43: Mikey shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges

1:03:33:  Mikey discusses how “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

1:38:34: Mikey shares her work on her podcast and how she stays embodied while working with her co-hosts

1:59:58: Mikey discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

2:04:08: Mikey shares where to be found and what’s next for them

Links from this episode:

ADHD

Autism

Black Feminism Reimagined

Black Feminist Thought

Da’Shaun Harrison

Ebony Oldham

Elite Capture

The Embodiment of Disobedience

Fat Activism

Fatness Spectrum

Fatty MPH

Fearing the Black Body

Google Form for Mikey’s doctoral research

Health Communism

Kimberlé Crenshaw

Matrix of Domination

Rachel Fox

Rest Is Resistance

Rebecca Puhl

Sydney Sky

Unsolicited: Fatties Talk Back

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 8: Marquisele Mercedes

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Marquisele Mercedes (she/they) about their embodiment journey.

Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes (she/they) is a fat liberationist writer, creator, educator, and doctoral student from the Bronx, New York. As a Presidential Fellow at the Brown University School of Public Health, she works at the intersection of critical public health studies, fat studies, and scholarship on race/ism, examining how racism, anti-Blackness, and fatphobia have shaped health care, research, and public health. 

Mikey is also a co-host of the podcast Unsolicited: Fatties Talk Back, which explores the lived fat experience from diverse vantage points to examine fatphobia in our relationships and culture. Her socials are @marquisele on Twitter, @fatmarquisele on Instagram, and Patreon.com/marquisele on Patreon. Their website is also marquiselemercedes.com

Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, discussion of medical fatphobia

Trigger Warnings:

29:06: Discussion of fatphobia regarding climate change

45:21: Discussion of government manipulation of COVID data

47:16: Discussion of hate of disabled people

1:11:25: Discussion of Mikey’s history with Lindo Bacon in the first two weeks of March 2022 here, here, here, and here among others (with updates here and here)

The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-8-marquisele-mercedes/#captions

A few highlights:

6:09: Mikey shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

26:47: Mikey discusses how the pandemic has affected their embodiment practices

Links from this episode:

Aaron Flores

ADHD

Autism

Blakeley Payne

Breathing Into the Machine

Credentialism

Da’Shaun Harrison

Fatness Spectrum

Fatty MPH

Fit To Be Citizens?

Mikey’s Pipewrench Piece

Mikey’s Wegovy Piece

People’s CDC

PTSD

Rachel Fox

Sherronda Brown Announced as Scalawag Magazine's Editor-in-Chief

Wear Your Voice

Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

Please follow us on social media:

Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus