Dragons in the Details – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie dive deep into the mysterious Isles and Gods of the Empyrean series in this mind-bending episode! We're finally tackling all those burning questions about the divine powers that shape Rebecca Yarros' world, and trust us when we say this one gets juicy!

We kick things off with a deep-dive omissions corner about dragon ages. After some detective work about conflicting quotes, we've uncovered that someone is definitely lying about their age. Looking at you, Sgaeyl and Tairn!

Then we jump into our main topic - the Isles and their connections to the gods! We explore why these mysterious lands aren't on any Navarian maps despite surrounding the continent "in every direction." How did Asher visit them all? Did he work with the irids? And why did Asher die so young?

Our deep dive into Unnbriel reveals some fascinating connections between dragons and this mysterious island. Why did Tairn kept cutting off Violet's thoughts whenever she started connecting dots about claws in emblems and faded tattoos? The evidence is mounting that Tairn has definitely been to Unnbriel before, despite what the Queen claims about not seeing "fire breathers in centuries." 

Our Hedotis analysis gets wild as we uncover some seriously sketchy behavior from Faris and the Triumvirate. From his suspicious red ruby to his purple eyes and complete disregard for his wife's life, something isn't adding up. We present our theory about what might have happened 150 years ago when they razed the entire city and rebuilt it with "intention."

The gifts from Zyhnal provide some of our juiciest theories yet! From Ridoc's kiss on each cheek to Cat's ruby necklace and Xaden's glass box "the size of his foot," we analyze what each might mean for our favorite characters' futures. The symbolism runs deep, and we're convinced these gifts will play crucial roles in upcoming books.

We round it all out with a fascinating discussion about Malek, who might not be the nefarious underworld figure we initially thought. Our analysis of how souls are "commended" to him suggests he's more like a guardian of heaven than a collector of the dead. Plus, we explore the compelling evidence that Violet is touched by multiple gods, with her multi-colored eyes potentially representing an "amalgamation" of divine influence.

In our wildest Precog Corner yet, we theorize about why exactly six dragon eggs are missing when Marlis requested twelve, and what connection this might have to the six gods. We also question whether Tairn might be much, much older than anyone realizes - perhaps old enough to have witnessed events from centuries ago!

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 05:26: Intro and dragon age discrepancies

05:27 - 12:04: Corrections, omissions, and social media shout-outs

12:05 - 22:38: Why aren't the Isles on maps and how did Asher visit them all?

22:39 - 38:02: Unnbriel and Dunne

38:03 - 52:35: What's up with Hedotis?

52:36 - 1:16:42: The gifts!

1:16:43 - 1:22:14: Loial deep dive

1:22:15 - 1:28:00: Amari deep dive

1:28:01 - 1:37:21: Malek deep dive

1:37:22 - 1:45:13: Precog Corner

1:45:14 - 1:48:25: What we're reading

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with their most mind-blowing episode yet as they dive deep into the mysterious world and politics of the dragons in “Onyx Storm: Dragons Deep Dive!”

We kick things off with a surprisingly divisive intro question - who's our favorite dragon? Ronnie shocks everyone (including Abby!) by choosing Sgaeyl, but Abby pledges allegiance to Andarna for her incredible sass and that iconic line, "Can you fly while insulted?" 

Then we jump into the dragon politics We break down the six dragon breeds, their ancestral grounds, and notable dragons of each color. But the real mystery emerges when we start questioning what determines a dragon's color - the answer might be more complicated than we realized.

Next, we tackle the fundamental question of dragon power. The bombshell from Onyx Storm reveals that while Irids are inherently magical, the six dragon breeds must channel from a source. We explore the fascinating connection between dragons and gods (six gods, six breeds... coincidence? we think not!), and whether dragons might be channeling from something far more ancient than we've been led to believe.

Things get wild when we discuss what the dragons might be lying about. Are they responsible for creating signets? Did moving their hatching grounds damage the land outside Navarre? Why would they specifically create wards that prevent gryphons from channeling if they're supposedly allies against the Venin? What exactly is going on here?

We dive into theories about why the Irids left after firing the Wardstone. The Irids specifically say they were "born for peace, not violence like the others" - what does this tell us about dragon nature? And why were the Irids completely erased from history, just like the Venin?

Our Tairn investigation gets particularly juicy as we question what he's been doing his whole life. If he's been alive for at least 100 years but only bonded to Naolin and then Violet, what was he doing for those other 89 years? Why is he so sketchy about Unnbriel? And that moment at Threshing - did Sgaeyl really call Tairn to protect Andarna, or was something far more calculated happening?

We round it all out with our most compelling evidence that the Empyrean might not be what it seems - from suspicious changes in military leadership to questionable decisions about who gets to channel magic within Navarre's borders. Something isn't adding up, and we're determined to get to the bottom of it.

In our wildest Precog Corner yet, Abby makes a heartbreaking prediction about a beloved character's fate, while Ronnie theorizes that the source of all magic might be something completely different than what we've been led to believe!

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 02:59: Intro

03:00 - 08:34: Dragon politics

08:35 - 21:11: What determines a dragon's color?

21:12 - 33:02: Dragon power and how they channel

33:03 - 38:38: The dragons and the gods

38:39 - 48:47: What are the dragons lying about?

48:48 - 59:57: Why did the Irids leave?

59:58 - 1:14:49: What has Tairn been doing his whole life?

1:14:50 - 1:25:17: Is the Empyrean corrupt?

1:25:18 - 1:43:05: Precog Corner

***Quicksilver Spoilers***

Ronnie and Abby sit down to discuss one of the books they both chose to cure their Onyx Storm hangover - Quicksilver by Callie Hart! They compare Saeris and Kingfisher to Violet and Xaden, applaud the intricate and fun world building, and agree that Carrion is the real MVP of this book. Plus there are some fun moments where we discuss what voice we gave to the Quicksilver. This one's light on theory but big on fun!

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Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with a DEEP DIVE into the mysterious Venin in this week's episode of Dragons in the Details! We're unpacking everything we know about our creepy (and possibly confusing) villains - and as per usual, the more we find out, the less we know!

We start by exploring the Venin's forms of power and what makes them so dangerous. From their ability to channel directly from "the source" to their fascinating array of signets, we break down what powers all Venin share versus their unique abilities. How come some venin seem to have multiple signets? And what about that weird moment when Jack pushed power into Violet instead of draining her? The implications are wild!

Then we dive into how and why the Venin recruit - is Berwyn dreamwalking into potential recruits' minds? We theorize about the connection between the Venin strengthening and the dragons refusing to bond with humans. Is this just a coincidence, or is something more sinister happening? And who taught the Venin runes? We have some shocking theories about a certain missing father that will make you question everything you thought you knew!

We explore the significance of Wyvern and what "repurposed magic" might mean for the future of this conflict. Could the Venin be planning something even more devastating with dragon scales? And speaking of devastating - we tackle the big question: are all Venin actually bad? The evidence might surprise you!

Our most mind-blowing discussion centers on what really happened to Naolin. The official story has more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese, and we bring receipts! Between Brennan's mysterious rune-shaped scar, Tairn's suspicious behavior, and the timeline of the Tyrrish Rebellion, something doesn't add up. Could Naolin still be alive? And if so... where has he been hiding?

In our wildest Precog Corner yet, we theorize about who "the one who watches" might be (the mysterious Venin leader everyone seems terrified of), and Abby drops a bombshell theory about Basgiath War College that will change how you view the entire series!

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 02:17: Intros and disclaimers

02:17 - 13:33: What we think of the Venin as villains

13:33 - 18:03: The Venin's forms of power - what they all share

18:03 - 22:15: Signets we've seen Venin wield

22:15 - 29:42: How and why do the Venin recruit?

29:42 - 38:13: Why are the Venin strengthening and attacking now?

38:13 - 46:01: Who taught the Venin runes? (The Isaac Mairi theory)

46:01 - 58:08: The significance of Wyvern and repurposed magic

58:08 - 1:07:08: Who might secretly be Venin? (Aetos, Varish, and more!)

1:07:08 - 1:16:12: Are all Venin actually bad?

1:16:12 - 1:33:08: What really happened to Naolin?

1:33:08 - 1:43:31: Precog Corner

1:43:31 - 1:46:43: What we're reading (Quicksilver!) and wrap-up

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie dive DEEP into the enigmatic parents of Violet Sorrengail in "Onyx Storm: Lilith and Asher Deep Dive"!

We kick things off with the burning question: was Lilith a Venin? The evidence is compelling but contradictory! We analyze those suspicious bloodshot eyes Violet remembers from childhood and that chilling quote about Lilith sacrificing "her very soul" at Basgiath. But if she channeled from the ground, how did she hide the physical changes? And why would she die from Sloan's siphoning if she could just channel more power? Something suspicious is going on here.

Then we tackle why Lilith was so cold to Violet compared to her other children. Was Liliths tough love designed to prepare Violet for her “path”? Remember that heartbreaking moment when Lilith says "everything was to get you to this moment"? Did Lilith know how her story was going to end?

We dissect Asher's books and the timeline of his mysterious research trips to the Isles. How did a scribe manage to visit all these dangerous locations? We track his journey from Second Lieutenant writing about Unnbriel to Lieutenant Colonel documenting the Krovlan uprising, uncovering clues about feathertails, unnamed Isle kingdoms seeking dragons, and Asher's surprising Tyrrish sympathies along the way.

The plot thickens when we analyze Tairn's suspicious behavior on Unnbriel! Every time Violet starts connecting dots about the claw symbol or the crossbolts, Tairn snaps "focus now, analyze later." And what about that moment when Tairn says "I was there, I remember"? What isn’t Tairn telling Violet?

Our wildest theories emerge when we discuss whether Asher had magical abilities. Why did he call Violet his "brightest light" years before she manifested lightning powers? How did he know exactly when he and Lilith would die? And what's with those italicized thoughts in Violet's head throughout Fourth Wing? Is someone in her head?

Listen to the end to hear our wild precog corner theories about Asher’s “heart attack” and whether or not he’s actually dead. And as always, we come with receipts. Happy listening!

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 01:35: Intro and disclaimer

01:35 - 06:09: Was Lilith a Venin? If so, was she cured?

06:09 - 13:22: Why was Lilith so cold to Violet?

13:22 - 33:32: What clues did Asher leave in his books and when did he write them?

33:32 - 44:05: Tairn's suspicious behavior on Unnbriel

44:05 - 57:10: Was Asher a Venin? Was he a rider? Did he have magic?

57:10 - 1:07:25: The mysterious italicized thoughts in Violet's head

1:07:25 - 1:27:28: Precog Corner and wrap-up

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are BACK with part two of our DEEP DIVE into Xaden Riorson! After talking for approximately five hours of our lives about this brooding shadow wielder last week, we're  tackling the rest of our burning questions about everyone's favorite angsty wing leader!

We start by analyzing those dreams where Berwyn visits Xaden. We bring receipts showing that until Onyx Storm, Berwyn didn't even KNOW Violet was dreamwalking - meaning everything he said was meant for Xaden's ears only! We dissect the cryptic messages about Xaden being "a pattern not seen in centuries" and how he hasn't "grown into his full abilities" yet. Is it his intinnsic abilities? His shadow wielding? Or something else entirely?

Then we jump into the mysterious "something" Xaden lost that the Venin want. Could it be the Sword of Tyrrendor that keeps appearing in the dreams? Why would a Sage need a sword when he's already so powerful? We theorize about what this could mean, especially if our crackpot theory about Berwyn being Xaden's grandfather turns out to be true!

We round it out with the BIG question: Why Xaden and Violet? We explore how they're perfect foils - lightning/shadow, light/dark, warmth/ice, mind walking/mind reading, power creating/power draining - and how their relationship might be the key to restoring balance in the world. We dive into the gods' involvement, with WILD evidence that Violet is touched by Dunne and possibly Malek (that "reacquainting" line is highly suspicious), and how Xaden is constantly compared to Dunne himself!

Our Precog Corner gets REALLY unhinged this week as we theorize that Xaden will have to DIE to be saved! We bring receipts from across the series about Xaden being "willing to let Violet burn him" and how they might both "meet Malek" - but will they have to die to do it? Could Andarna's flame "alter" Xaden back to human? The blanket of lies is starting to unravel!

We wrap up with some recommendations for what to read if you're stuck in an Onyx Storm rut (nothing helps, but we try anyway).

Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 03:35: Intros and recap of Part 1

03:36 - 10:11: Berwyn's dreams and what they reveal about Xaden

10:12 - 18:05: The mysterious "something" Xaden lost

18:06 - 27:06: Why the Venin want Xaden (his mind reading abilities and more)

27:07 - 35:15: Why Xaden and Violet? The perfect foils theory

35:16 - 42:48: Gods involvement - Dunne, Malek, and the "reacquainting" line

42:49 - 46:08: Precog Corner: Xaden's death and resurrection theory

46:09 - 47:19: What we're reading (Sally Rooney's Intermezzo, Banks' new album, and Quicksilver by Callie Hart)

Your favorite crazy book theorists Abby and Ronnie are back to dive DEEP into the character of Xaden Riorson in this wild first part of our two-part character analysis! Get ready for some serious theorizing about our favorite shadow daddy!

We start with some quick corrections from last week's episode - Abby points out that Violet can wield lightning in dreams (which might mean she'll face off against Berwyn there!), and drops the bombshell theory that Violet must be projecting her memories to Jesinia for the books to be written in first person. Meanwhile, Ronnie clarifies her stance on dragons as sources of magic - she's rejecting the propaganda that dragons are true sources and believes only the Source, ground, sky, irids, and Violet are ACTUAL sources!

Then we jump into our Xaden analysis, exploring what makes him so compelling as a character. We debate which book version of Xaden is our favorite (Iron Flame vs. Onyx Storm - we're divided on this one!), and discuss whether he had to turn Venin at the end of Iron Flame. Was it truly necessary, or could there have been another way?

We get into some shocking theories about Xaden's family tree, including the revelation that his grandfather was documented as his great-uncle and never made it out of the Rider's Quadrant. Could Xaden's grandfather actually be a certain sage?! The evidence is mounting - the tan arm, the youthful face, the sword of Tyrrendor... does this explain why the venin are targeting him?

We tackle the burning question: Is Xaden good? Abby speculates that Xaden hasn’t been entirely truthful about his second signet (with receipts from Fourth Wing!), and we explore the possibility that he blackmailed his way back into his title rather than reluctantly accepting it. But is this part of a larger scheme with Aaric to ensure Violet becomes Duchess of Tyrrendor? The plot is thickening!

Finally, we analyze whether Xaden has fully turned Venin or if he still retains his humanity. We examine the parallels between Andarna leaving Violet and Xaden turning, and how both were tethered back by someone they love. We conclude that while Xaden may be fully Venin, he's NOT beyond redemption - Violet's love has locked itself into his ice, keeping a piece of his humanity intact.

This episode got SO in-depth that we had to split it into two parts! Join us next week for the continuation of our Xaden deep dive!

Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 01:23: Corrections and omissions from last week

01:24 - 03:07: Violet projecting memories to Jesinia theory

03:08 - 05:19: Are dragons true sources of magic?

05:20 - 08:34: What we think of Xaden as a character

08:35 - 16:29: Which book version of Xaden is our favorite?

16:30 - 19:41: Did Xaden have to turn?

19:42 - 31:10: Xaden's family tree and grandfather theories

31:11 - 44:38: Is Xaden good? Mind reading and blackmail theories

44:39 - 52:01: Xaden and Aaric's possible scheme for Tyrrendor

52:02 - 1:05:03: Has Xaden fully turned? Parallels with Andarna

1:05:04 - 1:09:36: Closing thoughts and announcement of part two

Your new favorite literary chaos agents and theory enthusiast Abby and Ronnie begin their coverage of the Empyrean Series with a  DEEP DIVE into our favorite plucky heroine, Violet Sorrengail! We're kicking off our Empyrean series analysis with the character who started it all - and buckle up, because we have THOUGHTS.

We start with our personal journeys into Rebecca Yarros' world. Then we dive into the burning question: what does it mean that Violet wields pure power in the form of lightning? We bring receipts from across the series showing how the Venin keep saying she "commands the sky" and can "draw directly from the source". How does that tie into those origin story epigraphs about the three brothers? Is she channeling from Tairn, or is she actually drawing power from the sky itself?

Then we tackle dreamwalking - what are its limits and why is it so dangerous? We analyze the differences between what Berwyn does in dreams versus what Theophanie says in real life (spoiler: they're not the same!), and theorize that Violet's dreamwalking might evolve into something much more powerful. Could she eventually walk into people's minds while they're awake?! The possibilities are endless.

We explore why Andarna waited 650 years to hatch for Violet (this can't be a coincidence, people!) and what it means that Andarna says they "want the same things." We dissect the timeline and realize Andarna's conception predates the unification - why was she left behind when all the other Ereds left?

Next, we break down all the possible paths Violet might choose - is it just rider vs. scribe? Xaden vs. Dain? Or is there a third option where she chooses herself? We analyze the combat scenario in Unnbriel and what it reveals about her future choices. Plus, we dive into which gods might be courting her favor - is it Dune, Loial, or Malek? Or is it all of them?

Finally, we tackle why Violet's hair is partially silver and what her incomplete dedication to Dune might mean. Why did Asher try to dedicate her without Lilith knowing? Was he trying to save Lilith or the entire continent?

In our first-ever Precog Corner (where no theory is too unhinged), Abby predicts Violet will become Queen of ALL Navarre and General of the armies, while Ronnie drops the BOMBSHELL theory that Violet might be part-Venin - the "evolved offspring" the Irids mentioned! Could this explain why she's the exception to the balance and why her power is attracted to Venin?

Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 01:45: Intros and our journey into the Empyrean series

01:46 - 19:40: How does Violet wield lightning? What does it mean that she wields pure power?

19:41 - 33:32: Dreamwalking - what does it mean and what are its limits?

33:33 - 46:01: Why was Andarna waiting for Violet to hatch?

46:02 - 59:57: What are the paths that Violet might choose?

59:58 - 1:14:49: Why is Violet's hair partially silver?

1:14:50 - 1:25:17: Precog Corner: Our wildest theories about Violet's future

1:25:18 - 1:26:02: Wrap-up and contact information

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with an episode filled with YOUR theories -  “Onyx Storm: Mailbag #1”! We're diving into your wildest theories, burning questions, and brilliant observations that have been flooding our DMs and comments. Get ready for some mind-bending discussions that might just change everything you thought you knew about the Empyrean series!

We kick things off with Claire's fascinating question about the paradoxical nature of alloy - how can something simultaneously kill the Venin while also serving as their power source? We bring receipts from across the series, examine the role of runes, and uncover a bombshell revelation from the final chapter of Onyx Storm that might completely transform our understanding of those mysterious daggers (hint: it's not just Venin who should be worried)!

Then we tackle Nicole's brilliant observation about Violet's wyvern-hopping escape from Theophanie's draining. We dissect what it means for something to have "had its magic repurposed" and why that creates a barrier against draining. Our investigation leads us down a rabbit hole about what wyvern actually are and why Violet specifically needed to reach the flesh of the creature. 

Next, we explore Kathy's prediction about the Tyrrish crown and its appearances throughout the series. From Maren's dream to Bodhi's conversation with Theophanie, we track every mention of this supposedly non-existent crown and what it might mean for Tyrrendor's future. 

We dive into lovebug2110's brilliant theory about Andarna's ability to break magical bonds and what this might mean for Xaden's connection to Berwyn. Could this be the key to understanding the shocking ending of Onyx Storm? We examine what it means to "bend, shape, and break" bonds as you see fit, and theorize about what exactly happened between Tairn and Sgaeyl.

Finally, we round things out with a lively discussion about the mysterious italicized voice in Violet's head. Is it her inner monologue? Future Violet? Andarna communicating across time? Dune herself? Or something far more unexpected? Our commenters have some fascinating theories, and we weigh in on each possibility!

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 02:59: Intro and disclaimer

03:00 - 08:34: Claire's alloy paradox question

08:35 - 15:24: Nicole's wyvern barrier theory

15:25 - 22:00: Kathy's Tyrrish crown prediction

22:01 - 27:29: Lovebug's theory on Andarna breaking bonds

27:30 - 36:16: The mysterious italicized voice debate

36:17 - 39:07: What we're reading/watching and outro

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with a mind-blowing deep dive into the mysterious isle of Deverelli! This episode was born from a throwaway theory that grew into something we just couldn't ignore - and trust us, you're going to want to hear this one.

First, we tackle our favorite Deverelli moments - Ronnie loves when Xaden shows his softer side in the marketplace (and everyone is completely shocked), while Abby confesses her favorite part is when Xaden wields from the alloy to protect Violet (no judgment here!). We discuss how Deverelli represents Xaden's last moment of peace before everything falls apart, and how it gives us a glimpse of what their lives could have been without war and magic.

Then we dive into our main theory about Deverelli's true nature and its relationship with the gods. We bring receipts about how Deverelli doesn't worship any gods (which might actually be the wisest approach), explore the fascinating phrase "the word is the blood," and examine how Violet's challenge with Narelle mirrors what should have happened on Hedotis. 

We explore the mysterious runes on Deverelli and why some work while others don't. Why does Violet feel the urge to weave runes when entering Deverelli's airspace? And what's the deal with those crossbolts that can supposedly kill dragons without magic? Something doesn't add up!

Our investigation takes an intriguing turn when we discuss Courtlyn's collection of magical artifacts. Why would the ruler of an isle without magic be collecting magical amplifiers like the Aemilian Citrine? What does it mean that he's called "keeper of the troth"? And what exactly was the bargain between Courtlyn and Fen Riorson?

We round out the episode with a fascinating look at the vibrant waters surrounding Deverelli compared to its muted land colors, and contrast this with Hedotis's strange aquaphobia. Could there be magic in the water that Deverelli understands but Hedotis fears?

In our wildest precog corner yet, we theorize about a mysterious study on Venin subjects removed from source magic. Could there be a connection between this study and the isles? And what does it mean that there were at least 46 different test groups? The implications are chilling!

We wrap up with our current reads - Ronnie's devouring Sarah J. Maas's Crescent City series and can't put it down, while Abby's halfway through A Court of Thorns and Roses and has thoughts about Tamlin, Lucien, and why the fandom exploded from this series.

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 01:27: Intro and Diet Coke discourse

01:28 - 02:52: Episode overview and disclaimers

02:53 - 04:16: Favorite Deverelli moments

04:17 - 05:59: Xaden's last moment of peace

06:00 - 12:26: Is Deverelli the true Isle of Wisdom?

12:27 - 18:16: Narelle's three questions and their significance

18:17 - 21:30: Cat's ruby necklace tangent

21:31 - 28:27: Deverelli's dedication to wisdom vs. Hedotis

28:28 - 33:32: Runes and their function on the isles

33:33 - 38:17: Magic artifacts and Courtlyn's collection

38:18 - 42:21: Crossbolts and what can kill dragons

42:22 - 46:51: Courtlyn's titles and the mysterious bargain with Fen

46:52 - 48:12: The mysterious italics voice

48:13 - 58:34: What we're reading (Crescent City and ACOTAR)

58:35 - 01:00:10: Outro and social media information