Tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode of Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast. Join Francine L. Shaw, the savvy CEO of Savvy Food Safety, and Matthew Regusci, compliance connoisseur and founder of Fostering Compliance, as they serve up the latest in food safety with a side of laughter.
Explore the ins and outs of food systems, responsible food practices, and food safety regulations. Stay informed about food safety awareness and the not-so-occasional food recall. Delve deep into the complexities of the food supply chain with our dynamic duo, who blend expert insights with a pinch of food safety humor. Whether you're knee-deep in the food safety industry or just passionate about what's on your plate, this podcast promises a fresh take on staying safe while eating well.
Expect candid conversations, personal anecdotes, and occasional guest appearances that spice up the discussion. Shaw and Regusci bring their combined decades of experience to the table, making each episode as informative as it is entertaining. From industry trends to must-know food safety news and regulations, they've got your back (and your lunch).
In essence, Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast is not just about imparting information; it's about fostering a culture of food safety. By shedding light on the intricacies of the food supply chain and the latest food safety news, it aims to promote awareness and encourage responsible food practices among consumers and industry professionals alike.
When it comes to food safety, knowledge is power, and a good laugh is the best seasoning. At the heart of every episode is one golden rule: Don't Eat Poop!
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Welcome to Area 51: Supplements, Claims, and the Product Safety Nobody Validates | Episode 191
Épisode 191
mardi 3 novembre 2026 • Durée 27:34
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
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Welcome to Area 51: Supplements, Claims, and the Product Safety Nobody Validates | Episode 191
A company gets caught. A new LLC shows up in Suite 108, and Suite 107 quietly stays open as the “warehouse.” Welcome to Area 51 of product safety, the place that officially doesn’t exist.
Recorded live at the Food Safety Consortium, this episode features Trevor Morones, president and chief quality officer of Control Point Holdings. He talks with Francine and Matt about supplement claims, unpermitted operations, process authorities, and why leadership has to show up at every level. Spoiler alert: if you can’t validate it and keep verifying it, you can’t claim it, no matter how good it looks on Instagram.
In this episode: 💩 Cold open: Suite 107, Suite 108, and Area 51 💩 Meet Trevor Morones and Control Point Holdings 💩 Product safety starts with one question: “Who’s your team?” 💩 Supplement claims and the FDA’s attention 💩 Probiotics: the count at what point? 💩 New LLCs, unpermitted spaces, and coffee roasters who think they’re exempt 💩 Mom, Instagram, and mushroom supplements 💩 Drug interactions, heavy metals, and supply chain verification 💩 Becoming a process authority under 9 CFR 💩 Cosmetics, serums, snail secretions, and collagen 💩 Meeting Dr. Darren Detwiler and the Thought Leader Product Safety Innovation Summit 💩 The four A’s and how to join the Control Point community 💩 Seek and Destroy: a Listeria tabletop exercise with a cybersecurity twist 💩 Food and cannabis under one roof at the Food Safety Consortium 💩 What conferences need more of: leadership at every level
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
“It’s important that operations don’t try to market something they can’t actually validate. We have to validate and then continue to verify something.” – Trevor Morones
“If we’re trying to provide supplements to people for health and well-being, let’s do it in a way that’s transparent and it can be traceable.” – Trevor Morones
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🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.
Securing What Feeds Us: Why Every Food Cyberattack Is a Food Safety Incident | Episode 190
When hackers took over refrigeration systems in grocery stores across France, the cybersecurity world focused on how they got in. Almost nobody asked the bigger question: what happened to the food? Kristin King says that blind spot is exactly what puts our food supply at risk.
Recorded live at the Food Safety Consortium, Francine and Matt sit down with Kristin King, operational technology security expert, host of Bites and Bytes, and author of Securing What Feeds Us, to talk about where cybersecurity and food safety collide, and about what it is really like to be a woman in a male-dominated industry.
Spoiler alert: In the food industry, a cyberattack is a food safety incident until someone proves it isn’t.
In this episode: [01:39] Live from the Food Safety Consortium with Kristin King [03:37] Animal food safety, zoo commissaries, and “gorilla salad” [07:32] The JBS ransomware attack and food and agriculture as critical infrastructure [08:44] Founding her firm, launching Bites and Bytes, and writing Securing What Feeds Us [16:48] More than 400 publicly reported food sector incidents in seven years [17:50] The book’s atlas of global food and ag cyber incidents [25:25] If it doesn’t need to be on the internet, don’t put it there [27:25] Insurance, nation-state attackers, and “acts of war” [36:30] Allyship and finding your advocates [40:40] Where to find Kristin, her book, and her podcast [43:37] The book’s dedication to everyone who touches food
Infant Formula Botulism Outbreak: The Supplier Link l Episode 189
Épisode 189
mardi 20 octobre 2026 • Durée 48:41
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Infant Formula Botulism: One Supplier, Two Brands | Episode 189
Two infant formula brands, made by different companies on different continents, sickened babies with botulism seven months apart. The thing they had in common wasn’t a factory. It was an ingredient, sourced from the same organic whole milk supplier and spray-dried at the same facility, and nobody in the chain was testing for botulism.
Francine and Matt break down how the outbreak was traced upstream, why “we never tested for that” keeps showing up in outbreak investigations, and what it would take for companies to get ahead of risks they don’t even know exist yet. Spoiler alert: food safety keeps getting treated as an expense until an outbreak forces it to become an investment.
In this episode: 💩 01:16 The CDC names the supplier behind the infant formula botulism outbreak 💩 06:56 The Marler Blog breakdown: one ingredient, two brands 💩 10:49 The sub-supplier problem: brands may not know where their ingredients originate 💩 17:09 Risk assessments by product and region 💩 22:44 Food safety budgets: investment or expense? 💩 33:31 Francine’s experience auditing for insurance companies 💩 41:40 From The Jungle to Jack in the Box 💩 44:54 Matt’s advice: get out of your silo
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
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Food Safety Culture Across Borders with Food Safety Manager Santoshi Muriki | Episode 188
Épisode 188
mardi 13 octobre 2026 • Durée 39:57
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.
In India, Santoshi Muriki watched inspectors stay quiet and management toss her proposals in the trash. In the US, she found unannounced audits, stricter rules, and the same old problem: people cutting corners when nobody's watching.
In this episode of Don't Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine sit down with food safety manager Santoshi to compare food safety culture in India and the US, from scheduled-only audits and quiet bribes to the risk-based supplier program she built to get ahead of recalls.
Spoiler alert: Perfect paperwork doesn't prove a strong food safety culture. Sometimes it's the biggest red flag in the building.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 Meet Santoshi: From Produce Processing in India to US Warehousing
💩 00:04:15 Food Safety Culture: What People Do When Nobody's Watching
💩 00:08:27 Food Safety in India vs. the US: Traceability, Enforcement & Audits
💩 00:12:19 Being a Woman in Food Safety Leadership in India
💩 00:16:32 Quality vs. Operations
💩 00:21:33 When Food Safety Records Look Too Good to Be True
Machetes, Hostages & Jerk Pans: Food Safety Inspections in Jamaica with Food Safety Girl Allison Richards | Episode 187
Épisode 187
mardi 6 octobre 2026 • Durée 45:25
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.
Ever had someone sharpen a machete while you work through your inspection checklist? Allison Richards has. With over 15 years of food safety inspections in Jamaica, she has also been told by owners to take her shoes off at the door and has been locked inside a store until they decided the inspection was over.
In this episode of Don't Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine sit down with Allison, better known as The Food Safety Girl. They swap inspection war stories and dig into consumer education, food insecurity, cold chain, canning, street food, and the new Caribbean chapter of Women in Food Safety.
Spoiler alert: Fear doesn't fix food safety. Education, relationships, and informed consumers do.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 Meet The Food Safety Girl, Allison Richards
💩 00:17:10 Cockroach Popsicles and the Kangaroo Oxtail Rumor
💩 00:19:50 Food Tourism and Consumers as Agents of Change
💩 00:23:45 Food Safety Compliance Through Relationships
Food Safety Culture vs. Training vs. Leadership: Everybody Knows the Rules and Still Screws Up | Episode 186
Épisode 186
mardi 29 septembre 2026 • Durée 45:20
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
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Everybody knows the food safety rules. So why do we keep screwing this up?
After a summer shaped by the Taylor Farms Cyclospora outbreak, Francine and Matt dig into whether the real problem is training, behavior, leadership, or culture. They use Taylor Farms, Taco Bell, and Chipotle to show where accountability really lands and how to win buy-in from the people who make the decisions.
Spoiler alert: Knowing the rules has never been the problem. Getting people to buy in is.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 Three Years, 186 Episodes of Food Safety
💩 00:03:05 Training vs. Behavior vs. Leadership vs. Culture
💩 00:06:47 Taylor Farms Food Safety Culture
💩 00:10:53 The Parent Company Owns the Outbreak
💩 00:14:17 Food Safety Culture from Corporate to Facilities
💩 00:16:41 Hiring for the Right Food Safety Behaviors
💩 00:21:41 Fire Them or Move Them? Positional vs. Personal Influence
💩 00:27:39 Building Food Safety Buy-In From the Middle
Largest Cyclospora Outbreak in US History “Over”: What the CDC Isn't Saying | Episode 185
Épisode 185
mardi 22 septembre 2026 • Durée 45:56
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
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The largest Cyclospora outbreak in U.S. history is over, according to an anonymous federal official who told a reporter before anyone told the public. The CDC's own outbreak page still says "open." In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop, Matt and Francine dig into the numbers nobody's updating and ask a question they've never asked in 185 episodes: is this incompetence, or something worse?
This episode breaks down the outbreak data agencies stopped counting, the consumer trust numbers still falling, and the case for and against a full-blown conspiracy.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 Cyclospora Outbreak Declared "Over"
💩 00:08:21 The Outbreak Numbers Nobody's Updating
💩 00:11:19 Consumer Confidence In Free Fall
💩 00:13:03 Congress Sends 13 Letters, Gets Zero Cyclospora Outbreak Answers
💩 00:16:05 Incompetence or Food Safety Conspiracy
💩 00:20:54 Is The Whole Food System Broken?
💩 00:23:08 Could Someone Be Weaponizing A Broken System?
💩 00:36:45 How Matt Got A Broken Industry To Adopt Compliance
The Food Safety Blame Game: Cyclospora, Taylor Farms, and Who Really Pays | Episode 184
Épisode 184
mardi 15 septembre 2026 • Durée 35:28
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.
Over 30,000 confirmed Cyclospora cases this summer, and the CDC's own math says the real number could be over a million. So why did it take so long to get straight answers about where it came from?
In this episode of Don't Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine tear into the Cyclospora outbreak tied to Taylor Farms lettuce and Taco Bell, and the industry-wide habit of pointing fingers instead of fixing problems. They break down how the contamination likely happened, why Taylor Farms' size makes it nearly impossible to avoid its product, and what Roger Hancock's crisis-communication playbook gets right.
Spoiler alert: the companies that survive an outbreak aren't the ones that dodge blame, they're the ones that communicate fast and own it.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 The Food Safety Blame Game
💩 00:08:51 The Real Cyclospora Outbreak Numbers
💩 00:11:10 How Cyclospora Likely Got Onto The Lettuce
💩 00:13:52 Taylor Farms, Private Label Confusion, And Dodging Blame
💩 00:17:37 Article: What Restaurants Can Learn From The Lettuce Recall
💩 00:21:43 Supply Chain Consolidation And "Too Big To Fail"
2026 Outbreak Overload: 21 Recalls & More Than 30,000 Sick | Episode 183
Épisode 183
mardi 8 septembre 2026 • Durée 34:14
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
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Cyclospora cases have topped 30,000. Eggs, jalapeños, blueberries, and infant formula are all being recalled at the same time. In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine ask the question everyone's TikTok feed is already joking about: is there anything left in the food pyramid that hasn't been recalled?
The episode walks through every major outbreak of the summer, one pathogen at a time, before digging into the supply chain quirk (the terminal market) that makes some recalls nearly impossible to fully contain.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 The New Food Pyramid
💩 00:05:16 2026 Outbreak Update by Pathogen
💩 00:09:21 Driscoll And The PFAS Strawberry Whistleblower
💩 00:11:02 The Egg Recall: 19 Million Eggs
💩 00:14:01 Salmonella In Jalapeños Hits Over Two Dozen States
💩 00:17:28 How Consolidation Created The Terminal Market Workaround
💩 00:21:51 Who's Liable When A Recall Traces Back To A Terminal Market
💩 00:29:52 Starbucks Sandwiches And A Trunk Full Of Egg Salad
Cyclospora Outbreak: Why the White House Went Silent | Episode 182
Épisode 182
mardi 1 septembre 2026 • Durée 32:42
🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.
Nearly 21,000 Americans are confirmed sick with Cyclospora, and three different government sources can't agree on the actual number. When the administration finally addressed it, the best they offered was a joke. In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine break down what accountability was supposed to look like, and the eight concrete fixes still sitting on someone's desk.
They walk through the math behind the conflicting case counts, why the government's own numbers may be undercounting sick Americans by a factor of 10 or more, and the specific policy changes that could stop the next outbreak from disappearing into a spreadsheet.
Spoiler alert: the real number of people sick could be well over a million, and nobody in Washington wants to say so.
In this episode:
💩 00:00:00 Bill Marler's Article: Govt’s Response to Cyclospora
💩 00:06:09 CDC's Three Conflicting Case Counts
💩 00:08:32 The Government’s Flawed Food Safety Advice
💩 00:09:48 The White House's Silence So Far
💩 00:11:15 Extrapolating The Cyclospora Case Count
💩 00:13:42 Eight Recommended Fixes For The FDA
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
“Anytime there is a cybersecurity incident within food, it is automatically a food safety incident until someone tells me otherwise. And it needs to be treated that way first.” — Kristin King
“Things have to change, but it is not my responsibility to change it. My responsibility is to remind people to be good human beings and that when they see something they need to say something and that’s the truth about it.” — Kristin King
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“They see it as an expense until they have some kind of major outbreak. And then suddenly it’s important for a while.” – Francine L. Shaw
“If you’re bored in food safety, you’re really doing something wrong.” – Matt Regusci
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“ Food safety culture is what people do when nobody is watching.” – Santoshi Muriki
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“Consumers are really the agents of change. They're the ones spending. They have the spending power.” – Allison Richards
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"Everybody knows the rules, so why do we keep screwing this up?" – Francine L. Shaw
"Most of the time you can't play by the rules to change a culture." – Matt Regusci
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"If you don't count [the victims], they don't matter. They don't exist." – Francine L Shaw
"This is either absolute pure incompetence, or it's a conspiracy, and I could believe in both, or both simultaneously." – Matt Regusci
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“Today's topic is the food safety blame game, and the industry has been doing this probably since its inception.” – Matt Regusci
“Can we just stop arguing about whose fault it was and try to figure it out?” – Francine L Shaw
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“Francine and I do not lack content, but we would really like it if these outbreaks came out every other month or so, so we could keep up with them.” – Matt Regusci
“We'd be talking about the eggs right now if the lettuce wasn't so bad because the eggs are bad, too. The lettuce is so bad that the eggs are kinda just sliding under the radar.” – Francine L Shaw
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“ I do believe the states should be able to make their own laws, but I do think that the federal government should also have laws pertaining to food safety, and those laws should be statistics.” – Matt Regusci
“Food safety's not political. We're talking about people's well-being.” – Francine L Shaw
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