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In this episode Nyssa Tang and Jason Robertson discuss two less-often remembered xi-cleft points. KI-8/交信 /jiāo xìn  is the xi cleft of yin qiao vessel. KI-9 筑宾 /zhù bīn is the xi cleft of yin wei vessel.  Dr. Wang's experience with these points is discussed as are clinical cases from Nyssa and Jason.  

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In this episode, Jason Robertson and Jonathan Chang discuss his recent trip to teach at the yearly international congress in Rothenburg Germany.  Jason asks Jonathan about his presentations on cardiology and the concept of 'constraint'  (鬱 yù).  For those interested in diving deeper into Jonathan's presentation, see his article here

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In this episode Jonathan and Jason discuss the fascinating synergy of the annual TCM Kongress held in Rothenburg Germany.  This event was the last place Dr. Wang taught internationally in 2014 and one he enjoyed immensely.  This year, Jason participated in a roundtable discussion and demonstration of palpation in East Asian medicine. In addition, he discussed the anatomy and physiology of the Jueyin system as described in classical texts with Italian sinologist Giulia Boschi.  For more information on the Kongress see   Home - TCM Kongress Rothenburg (tcm-kongress.de). 

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang talks to Dr. Meng Xiaonan about his experiences becoming a doctor at a TCM hospital in Beijing. Later in the episode, Dr. Meng answers some listeners' questions about the treatment of post-stroke patients. 

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson remember Dr. Wang on the annual holiday known as "Tomb Sweeping Day"  (清明節- Qing Ming Jie).  In the spirit of remembrance, Jon and Jason reflect on one of Dr. Wang's favorite quotes from the Neijing.  Ling Shu chapter one describes the very nature of  "channels/points [which are] where spirit qi moves, exits and enters [and are] not [the same as] skin, flesh, tendons and bones" （所言節者，神氣之所遊行出入也，非皮肉筋骨也）.

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In this episode, Yefim Gamgoneishvili and Jason Robertson discuss the much-debated question regarding 'tonification/補 bǔ' in acupuncture. Specifically, the question often arises regarding whether or not we can actually tonify using acupuncture (or moxa) or whether 'true' deficiency requires herbal medicine or dietary supplementation.  In this episode, Yefim also discusses how a practitioner might assess whether a given point is in a state of 'excess' (實 shí) or 'deficiency' (虚 xū).

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In this episode of Dialogues on Applied Channel Theory, Jonathan Chang and Nyssa Tang chat about an eye twitching case that illustrates an aspect of the yin-yang relationship between the Jue Yin and Shao Yang. 

The conversation also meanders into some observations about channel pathophysiology post-Covid and Dr. Wang Ju-Yi’s needling technique at DU14. 

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In this episode, Jonathan talks with Dr. Rodrigo Aranda about his experiences treating post-Covid patients in Chile. Four common categories of patients that are typically seen are discussed (chronic fatigue, IBS, peripheral neuropathy and cough), including the  common point combinations used. 

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson describe a common point pairing strategy used by Dr. Wang.  Namely, what might be done when a presenting pattern fails to fit perfectly into categories of 'excess' or 'deficiency'.  In these situations, more of a 'regulating' treatment is called for where the channels and organs are cleared without depleting. This discussion provides a broad overview of how these patterns might look in each of the six channels.  In addition, some guidelines for creating innovative point combinations are described.  

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One of Dr. Wang’s most useful analogies for describing the physiology of the channels is the classic bamboo steamer that is a common sight at dumpling and bao shops in China. It’s a useful image for understanding how the channels support and influence each other to maintain a healthy internal environment. 

In this episode of Dialogues on Applied Channel Theory, Jonathan and Nyssa share two cases where the lid of the steamer is opened to vent the Shao Yang. 

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In Lingshu Chapter 18, the Neijing describes each of the three 'burners' (焦 jiao) in the trunk of the body as having what Dr. Wang described as 'environments'.  In that text, the middle burner is described as a 'pickling pot' (漚 ou). In this discussion, Jonathan and Jason discuss a variety of common patterns and physiological concepts related to this central area of post-natal qi creation.  Cases are described, questions are posed and, as usual, there is more to explore in the clinic!

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In this episode, Jonathan talks to Dr. Meng Xiao Nan from the Huguosi TCM Hospital about his use of Applied Channel Theory in the treatment of post-stroke patients.

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 In this episode, Yefim Gamgoneishvili and Jason Robertson discuss the centrality of placing a 'primary symptom' (主 症 zhǔ zhèng) at the heart of the diagnostic process.  Dr. Wang Juyi would often emphasize that the careful choice of a primary symptom was the crucial first step in the process of perceiving symptom-pattern-structure (症候结构  zhèng hòu jié gòu).  While many students and practitioners learn this concept early in their training, we all can make the common clinical error of diffusing the effects of acupuncture by needling single points for single symptoms. 

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In this episode, Mei and Jonathan answer some listeners’ questions. A few topics are covered, such as Dr. Wang Ju-yi’s approach to tonifying and draining points, point selection and changes observed to the channels over the course of treatments. 

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Dr. Wang Ju-Yi always reminded his students to see acupuncture points like friends. It takes time to learn their character and personality, tendencies in activity, needle sensation, and how each point should feel when palpating for their location. In this latest episode, Jonathan and Nyssa chat about some point friends  they have re-visited recently in their clinics, like PC-6 and LR-5, and, how channel palpation helps to re-evaluate their functions. 

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson discuss an unusual recent case.  Some have noted that post-Covid patterns may involve the Shaoyin channel. When this pattern emerges, it often includes more familiar symptoms of insomnia, heart palpitations and some kinds of tinnitus. In this case, the primary complaint was a deep pain in the left shoulder joint.     

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April 5th, 2022 was the Tomb Sweeping Day （清明节）.  Jonathan shares some thoughts and memories of Professor Wang Ju-yi, who passed away in August 2017.

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In this episode, Yefim and Jonathan talk about the difference between treating channel sinew disorders with the Tai Yang and Jue Yin. Different strategies and point combos are discussed, illustrated with a  couple recent clinical cases.  

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In this episode Jonathan Chang begins by asking Jason Robertson about an article he wrote for the Journal of Chinese Medicine (https://www.channelpalpation.org/s/Point-Pair-Synergy-and-Defensive-Qi.pdf).

In the course of discussing the article, Jon and Jason reflect upon  just a few of the concepts surrounding clinical application of defensive qi (衛氣 wèi qì) theory in East Asian medicine.  While avoiding  assigning  one-to-one equivalency of  'defensive qi' to the  'immune system', cases are described where complex disorders might be viewed through the prism of lung-kidney physiology.     

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson discuss two unusual cases- one from Dr. Wang’s clinic and another from Jonathan’s clinic in Beijing.  An analysis of these cases leads to a review of extraordinary vessel theory, modified point locations and some insights into the types of situations where extraordinary vessel theory can help unwind a difficult case.

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Does this fall season have you re-assessing and returning to your routines and rhythms? In this episode, Jon and Nyssa talk about the seasonal affect on our Lung Tai Yin systems and things that we can do to support our bodies and minds. 

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In this episode, Mei and Jonathan discuss Dr. Wang's case study book 《王居易针灸医案讲习录》。They discuss their inspiration for working on this project with Dr. Wang, including talking about some of the clinical cases that initiated the writing of this book. In addition, Mei and Jonathan give an update on the progress of their translation of this book into English.    

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In this episode, Jonathan talks to Yefim about his approach to the treatment of chronic pain. The discussion covers the point-pressing technique and channel palpation for diagnosis, including common points used to treat chronic pain. There is also a summary of a recent chronic low back pain case. 

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In this episode, Yefim and Jonathan discuss the treatment of acute knee pain.  Yefim shares his general approach to the treatment of this type of disorder, from treatment methods to diagnosis with the use of channel palpation. 

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In this episode Jason Robertson and Jonathan Chang discuss Dr. Wang's first published article on what eventually became Applied Channel Theory. This article was recently translated with commentary by Jonathan an re-published in The Lantern (https://www.thelantern.com.au/)

The discussion re-visits core concepts at the heart of Dr. Wang's clinical approach and how that approach is being used in our clinics today.  

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In this episode, Nyssa and Jonathan discuss Dr. Wang Ju-yi's clinical application and location of LR-5 （蠡沟), and how its location shifted over the years. Discussion of this point also expands to briefly describe Dr. Wang's location of the foot jue yin liver channel.  

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In this episode Jason and Nyssa build upon recent discussions of Taiyin and Jueyin physiology by exploring clinical presentations of qi stagnation/constraint/鬱 yù.  When we first begin to study East Asian medicine, we often fall into the trap of considering all qi stasis patterns to involve the liver.  This discussion uses clinical insight to compare and contrast Jueyin and  Taiyin qi constraint and some point pairs used to address this common presentation in the modern clinic.  

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In this episode, Jason and Jonathan discuss the relationship of the liver and pericardium in Jueyin using insomnia as an example.   Within each of the six channels, the particular relationship of the organs is unique.  When confronted with theoretical complexity, it is often most helpful to begin with a case study to bring things back to reality. 

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In this episode, Yefim and Jonathan discuss the point pair combination LU-5 + SP-9. Yefim recalls his initial obsession with this point combo, and how his understanding of it evolved over the years. The functions of this point pair on regulating tai yin physiology are introduced. In addition, it is compared to another common point pair -- the four gates. 

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In this episode Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson discuss the back shu points.  Dr. Wang had a unique location for these important points which is discussed in detail.  In addition, Jon and Jason discuss how to palpate these points for diagnostic clues and how each of them use them in their daily clinical work. Cases are discussed and strategies for correlating distal channel palpation with palpation on the back are outlined. 

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In this episode Jason Robertson has a follow-up discussion with Yefim Gamgoneishvili  about the concept of the five minds and how they might relate to the seven emotions. The discussion takes ideas outlined in an earlier episode and further explores strategies for approaching psycho-emotional patterns ( 證 zhèng).  Using this lens, careful differentiation of more commonplace signs and symptoms can provide clues to effective treatment strategies for these sometimes thorny complaints. 

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In this episode Nyssa and Jonathan reminicse about Dr. Wang, especially his love for swimming. They discuss the impact of Dr. Wang's approach to life on their clinical approach, from his curiousity to never being in a rush.  

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In this episode, Yefim discusses with Jonathan the treatment of a patient suffering from chronic upper back pain. He describes in detail the palpatory findings both distally and locally, while also analysing the points selected for treatment. There is discussion on the selection of BL-43 (膏肓 gao huang), along with the other four "huang" points. 

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In this episode Nyssa Tang and Jason Robertson discuss a series of recent cases, how palpation and questioning shaped their diagnosis and insights gleaned from results.  In particular, the cases have revolved around the impact of modern life on Taiyin physiology.  Favorite point pairs are discussed and the mechanisms of their action are considered. 

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In this episode Jonathan shares a surprising belching case where channel palpation changed the course of his diagnosis and understanding of the patient’s physiology. He and Nyssa also discuss how Dr. Wang differentiated burps, the P6/SP4 point combination and its many uses. 

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In this episode, Mei Li and Jonathan Chang discuss Dr. Wang's concept of channel confusion and exhaustion. Mei talks about her experiences treating American patients who have developed channel confusion from the use of antibiotics and steroid medications, including ways to rehabilitate the channels.  

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson discuss the relationship of Yangsheng/ 養生 (Nourishing Life Practices) to the channel system.  An understanding of the physiological role of the channel system is fundamental to the flexible clinical application of Applied Channel Theory. What is sometimes overlooked however is how our conception of physiological process can be used to motivate patients to make lifestyle changes.  By exploring how the effects of lifestyle choices can be palpated and perceived by our patients, a powerful clinical tool comes to life.  

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In this episode Jason Robertson joins Nyssa Tang for a discussion of how an initial exposure to Dr. Wang Juyi began a process which slowly changed an understanding of the practice of acupuncture.  Applied Channel Theory is an approach to East Asian Medicine which can be readily integrated with other approaches to practice.  The key is to develop strategies for using six channel theory and palpation in diagnosis to compare and contrast other currents of thinking. Nyssa and Jason begin by discussing their earliest exposure to Dr. Wang. 

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In this episode Jason Robertson and Mei Li discuss some of Dr. Wang's ideas about needling on the head.  The discussion includes his well-known use of Du-19 (hou ding) as well as other points he often used.  Conditions successfully treated as well as common strategies for palpation in diagnosis and point location are described.  

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In this episode, Nyssa and Jon talk about Dr. Wang Ju-yi's approach to treating facial paralysis. Nyssa also shares an interesting personal experience with facial paralysis while she studied with Dr. Wang in Beijing.  

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In this episode, Yefim discusses Professor Wang Ju-yi's understanding of the five minds and how he has incorporated these concepts into his clinical practice for the treatment of psycho-emotional disorders. 

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In this episode, Jason and Mei Li discuss an interesting and difficult case treated with acupuncture. Mei Li describes her initial intimidation treating a case of gangrene and threatened amputation.  As the discussion unfolds, certain diagnostic and treatment principles in dermatology using Applied Channel Theory are described. 

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In this episode, Nyssa talks about the channels as a living system that can reveal a patient's "story." Later in the episode, Nyssa also explains Dr. Wang's bamboo steamer analogy of the six levels. Finally, Jonathan gives a brief description of one of Dr. Wang's massage techniques. 

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In this episode, Jason Robertson discusses source and collateral points with Mei Li. The conversation begins with her experience being treated by Dr. Wang for a difficult skin condition and how that has shaped her understanding of using this common point-pair strategy in Applied Channel Theory. 

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In this episode, Yefim Gamgoneishvili discusses his methods of diagnosing orthopedic disorders by using a point pressing technique.

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In this episode, Jonathan Chang and Jason Robertson discuss a case which shines a light on the interesting role channel palpation might play in Chinese herbal medicine.  What seemed like a fairly straightforward gynecological case using Wen Jing Tang (温经汤) offered potential insight into the Yang Ming system.  One of Dr. Wang's hopes was to integrate channel palpation more methodically into Chinese herbal medical diagnosis and strategy. To that end, Dr. Wang used herbal formulas in some of his clinical cases but felt that the work was not finished. We're hoping that those listening might find ways to build experience using this approach to evaluate the mechanisms of formulas in their clinics. 

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In this episode, Nyssa and Jonathan discuss the effect of the natural and social environments on the channels, including on people in New York and Beijing during COVID-19.  

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In this episode, Yefim Gamgoneishvili talks about his experiences treating patients in rural Guatemala, including the treatment of a patient who suffered from a scorpion sting.  We also have a brief discussion on the clinical use of the point pair SI-3 with BL-62. 

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