In this special episode of New Blood: DFW's Young Gals Raising the Bar, Chris sits down with three remarkable athletes who proved that the best training partners are sometimes the ones you never actually train with.

Sisters Maddie Stier (32, Allen, TX) and Grace Chow (29, Washington, DC), along with their close friend Melanie Lassen (34, Casper, WY), came together at the California International Marathon to achieve something extraordinary—all three broke 2:50, finishing within minutes of each other after training separately in three different states.

Maddie stayed rooted in the DFW community, training with the Sloths Running Club by "chasing people faster than her" without a formal plan. Grace hired her first coach, Jordan Hogan (formerly Jordan Hassay), and navigated solo training in the cold, dark mornings of Washington, DC. Melanie moved to Casper, Wyoming, trained at 5,000 feet elevation, and struggled through nearly every workout—barely hitting a single target pace.

But when they reunited in Sacramento for a girls' weekend (no husbands, no kids, just chicken quesadillas and Zootopia), something magical happened. They ran their races separately but together, supporting each other from different parts of the course before meeting at the finish line for a core memory they'll never forget.

Finish times:

• Maddie Stier: 2:47:15 (6:24/mile)
• Melanie Lassen: 2:48:06 (6:25/mile)
• Grace Chow: 2:49:46 (6:29/mile)

This episode captures what makes running special: the power of community that transcends geography, the magic of shared goals, and what happens when you find your people—even when they live 1,500 miles apart. You'll hear about the Mile 20 declaration, the ultra-runner named Jesus who became their hype man for 22 miles, and why Maddie's brother's quote—"If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room"—drives everything they do.

This is the future of running. This is New Blood. And it's happening right now.

Welcome to The OGs: DFW's Running Pioneers - a series dedicated to the runners who built the DFW running community from nothing. These are the originals. The ones who ran when nobody cared, when the shoes were garbage, when there were no gels, barely any water, and definitely no fanfare. They did it because they loved it, and they created the foundation we're all standing on today.

Kerry Little launches the series with an incredible journey: growing up as a swimmer in Illinois, moving to Texas in the early '80s, and discovering she could run - really run. Her first marathon? A 3:15 that would still turn heads today. Multiple Boston qualifiers, Ironman Hawaii, coaching with Luke's training programs, and a current streak of over 3,700 consecutive days of running. Now working at Luke's Locker Dallas (Mockingbird/75) for 17 years, Kerry connects the past to the present, sharing what it really took to be a runner when running was still finding its identity.

In this refreshingly honest episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Madeleine Rouse, a runner whose story defies every typical running origin story you've ever heard.

Forget soccer. Madeleine's athletic background includes figure skating (where she admits she wasn't very good), horseback riding, swimming, and playing third-string field hockey while "running aimlessly up and down the field" to look busy. She never touched a soccer ball growing up and was "painfully uncoordinated in every area of my life."

Fast forward to adulthood, and Madeleine pulled off one of the most dramatic marathon progressions you'll hear: 3:25 to 3:19 to 2:50 in just three marathons. That's a 35-minute drop that she describes as her "magical season" - a breakthrough that seemed almost impossible.

But this isn't just another "I got really fast" story. Madeleine opens up about what comes after the breakthrough - the pressure, the expectations, and the reality of trying to maintain elite performance after having twins. She candidly discusses feeling like she's been "running into a brick wall," the temptation to retire after achieving her PR, and the slow process of rediscovering her motivation.

From choosing theater over track in middle school to training with "The Sloths" in Dallas, Madeleine's journey is equal parts inspiring and relatable. Whether you're chasing your first PR or struggling to recapture past glory, this conversation about resilience, self-compassion, and finding joy in running again will resonate deeply.

Tune in for an authentic discussion about the highs, the lows, and everything in between.

In this episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Kendall Rose, a rising star in the Dallas running community who's quickly making her mark as both an elite marathoner and certified running coach.

Kendall shares her inspiring journey from a burned-out college athlete who barely ran during her time at Texas A&M to a sub-3:05 marathoner with her sights set on breaking 3 hours at the 2025 California International Marathon (CIM). Along the way, she opens up about:

Running Highlights:

• Her unconventional return to running through a golden doodle puppy and F45 classes
• A breakthrough first half marathon (1:35) that led to marathon training
• The painful lessons from her first marathon at Irving (3:36)
• Earning her Boston Qualifier at Houston 2023 (3:22)
• The emotional experience of running Boston 2024
• Her stunning 18-minute PR at CIM 2024 (3:04:51) and the strategic race execution that made it possible

Coaching & Community:

• How she became RRCA certified and started coaching runners remotely
• Her role as a CIM Ambassador and what that means
• Leading the Not Your Average Run Club's half marathon training program with 34 runners
• The importance of building running community in Dallas and her connections with Pegasus, White Rock Running Co-op, and Frisco Running Club

Race Strategy Insights: Kendall provides fascinating insights into her strategic approach to racing, including how she studied the CIM course, executed a nearly perfect race plan, and made a bold mid-race decision at mile 13 to test her sub-3 hour potential. She discusses the art and science of coaching, the importance of trial and error in racing, and why sometimes you need to blow up at a 5K to learn how to pace properly.

Whether you're chasing your first PR, looking for coaching insights, or trying to find your running community in Dallas, Kendall's story offers valuable lessons about smart training, strategic racing, and the power of showing up consistently—even when you're shy and don't know anyone yet.

Connect with Kendall Rose: https://www.runstrongwithkendall.com/ 

In this inspiring episode, Chris sits down with Dustin Darakhshan, a Richardson-based runner and coach whose transformation story is nothing short of remarkable. After a 20-year hiatus from competitive running, Dustin went from 235 pounds and unable to run a mile in February 2020 to running a 2:34 marathon at St. George just three years later.

Dustin opens up about his early running career in high school, his journey through college and young adulthood where fitness took a back seat, and the pivotal moment after his son's birth that sparked his return to running. He shares the emotional connection to his late father, a Boston Marathon finisher, and how honoring his memory drove him to chase—and ultimately achieve—his own Boston qualifying time.

Throughout the conversation, Dustin discusses:

• His dramatic weight loss of 50+ pounds in six months
• Running three major marathons (Boston, Chicago, and New York) in 2022
• The power of running with faster people and the Dallas Sloths running group
• His transition into coaching beginners and first-time marathoners
• Dealing with an inguinal hernia injury and his comeback journey
• Balancing training with a full-time job and family life
• Why he believes in focusing on the process over the numbers

This episode is perfect for anyone looking for motivation, whether you're just starting your running journey or chasing your next PR.

Pierce Showe is 24 years old and has already broken a world record, completed three 200-mile races in 90 days, and become the youngest person to finish the ultra marathon triple crown. But his journey started with struggling through a 5K in high school.

In this episode, Pierce shares the Navy SEAL mental strategy that kept him from quitting at mile 60 of his first 200-miler, the brutal moment on day 98 when a camera malfunction forced him to run a full marathon in one day, and why he believes consistency is harder than extreme distance.

We dive into his progression from first half marathon to 240-mile races, his approach to coaching athletes twice his age, the role of faith in his running journey, and his unconventional training philosophy that doesn't require 100-mile weeks.

Whether you're training for your first 5K or contemplating an ultra, Pierce's story proves that incremental progress and mental toughness can take you further than you ever imagined.

Guest: Pierce Showe - Ultra Marathon Runner, World Record Holder, Running Coach

Meet Grace Chow and Maddie Stier—two sisters whose competitive fire has fueled a lifelong running journey that spans from childhood ice hockey rinks in Cleveland to military bases across the globe. Grace, a 7-year Marine Corps veteran and mother of a 1-year-old, embodies the "do what Grace wants to do" mentality that led her to run her first marathon at just 14 years old. Maddie, a Dallas-based mother of three and Sloths running group regular, represents the Type-A planner who thrives on structure and strategic training.

What drives these sisters isn't just sibling rivalry—though Grace admits she originally started running the mile in track simply because Maddie did it first. It's their shared understanding that running is both a personal challenge and a way to maintain identity through life's major transitions. Grace has carried her running through multiple military relocations, deployments to Italy, a CrossFit phase, and new motherhood, always finding ways to adapt without losing the core drive that had her logging 16-mile runs as a teenager. Maddie channels her competitive nature into meticulous training, showing up to track workouts with faster runners and hanging on "for dear life" because she knows that discomfort leads to growth.

Both sisters are currently training for December's California International Marathon—each balancing motherhood with serious training goals. Grace, working with her first-ever coach, hopes to break her 2:57 PR while managing early morning runs around her 1-year-old's schedule. Maddie targets a sub-2:50 breakthrough while coordinating training around three children. Their approach couldn't be more different: Grace thrives on flying by the seat of her pants while learning structure for the first time, while Maddie lives by routine and strategic planning.

Whether it's Grace running cupless marathons in Hawaii while dealing with dehydration, or Maddie maximizing every minute of training time when leaving her husband with the kids, these sisters prove that the drive to run fast comes from embracing challenge, supporting each other across distances, and never losing sight of the competitive spark that started it all in middle school track. They demonstrate that motherhood doesn't diminish athletic ambition—it sharpens the focus and makes every training opportunity count.

In this powerful conversation, Chris Detzel sits down with Theo Murdaugh, founder of Run It Up Dallas, to explore how one man's vision transformed the running landscape for Black and brown communities in Dallas. Starting with just 30-40 runners in March 2023, Theo's movement exploded to 200-300 participants after a single viral video, forcing the group to navigate rapid growth while staying true to its mission.

Theo shares his journey from corporate automotive executive to nonprofit leader, explaining how traditional run clubs often felt intimidating and exclusive to newcomers. Run It Up breaks that mold with DJ music, group stretches, pace groups for every level (including walkers), and a welcoming atmosphere that feels more like a family reunion than a serious training session.

But this isn't just about running. As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, Run It Up tackles cardiovascular health disparities head-on, partnering with organizations like the Black Heart Association to provide free health screenings and education. With heart disease and hypertension disproportionately affecting Black communities, Theo's work extends far beyond fitness into life-saving health advocacy.

The conversation covers the practical challenges of scaling from a solo operation to a 15-person team, the importance of creating inclusive spaces in predominantly white running culture, and Theo's ambitious plans to take Run It Up to HBCU campuses nationwide. Whether you're interested in community building, health equity, or just want to understand how to make fitness accessible to everyone, this episode offers valuable insights into creating meaningful change through movement.

From beginner walkers to Boston Marathon qualifiers, Run It Up proves that running can be both serious training and joyful community celebration.

In this compelling episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Julie Rembold for an in-depth look at one of the most remarkable running journeys you'll ever hear. Julie's story begins at age 37 when she started marathon training with virtually no running background, quickly dropping from a 3:47 debut at Houston Marathon to a 2:51 Boston qualifier in just two years.

But this isn't just a story about fast times. Julie's journey takes a dramatic turn when mysterious health issues began affecting her performance and quality of life. Despite running impressive marathon times, she experienced symptoms ranging from severe fatigue and heart rate irregularities to neurological issues that made her leg feel "disconnected" during runs. For four years, she battled through these challenges while doctors struggled to provide answers.

What makes Julie's story truly extraordinary is how she took her health into her own hands. Using her engineering background and relentless research, she discovered that mineral imbalances—particularly copper and iron deficiency stemming from five pregnancies and breastfeeding—were at the root of her problems. Her recovery involved switching from synthetic supplements to natural nutrition sources, ultimately healing her body completely.

Julie opens up about the challenges of balancing marathon training with raising five children, the support system that made her running possible, and how her husband's leukemia diagnosis affected her first marathon. She also discusses her transition into health coaching, helping others who face similar struggles.

Now at 45, Julie has returned to form with recent marathons under 3 hours and ambitious goals ahead, including a 2:45 target at the Marathon Project in December. Her story is a testament to the power of listening to your body, advocating for your health, and never giving up on your goals.

This episode offers valuable insights for runners dealing with unexplained performance issues, parents trying to balance training with family life, and anyone interested in the connection between nutrition and athletic performance.

Meet Jim Dietz, a 65-year-old retired TI engineer who's been defying age-group expectations with sub-1:20 half marathon times and consistent sub-18-minute 5Ks. In this conversation, Jim takes us back to the golden era of corporate running in the 1980s, when Texas Instruments funded a legendary distance running program that attracted All-Americans and near-Olympic-level talent.

Jim's journey spans 45 years, from watching a New York City Marathon movie in college to becoming part of TI's powerhouse team that could take over entire races at Plano Pacers. He shares the untold story of corporate America's investment in employee wellness through competitive running, complete with national meets, sponsored travel, and workplace cultures that encouraged midday training sessions.

After a 12-year hiatus where he gained 60 pounds, Jim returned to running at 55 and rebuilt himself into one of the most competitive masters runners in the Dallas area. His unconventional training philosophy—running hard every other day at sub-7-minute pace for 50-65 miles per week—flies in the face of traditional coaching wisdom but continues to produce remarkable results.

Beyond the times and training, this episode explores the deep community connections that have sustained Dallas running for decades, from the consistency of Plano Pacers to the enduring friendships formed at White Rock Lake. Jim reflects on retirement, staying injury-free, and why he believes someone breaking the 2:30 marathon barrier locally could inspire a wave of similar achievements.

Whether you're curious about running's corporate history, seeking motivation for masters competition, or wondering how to maintain speed well into your 60s, Jim's story offers both inspiration and practical insights from someone who's truly lived the sport.

Join host Chris Detzel for an extraordinary conversation with Alison Miller, a 46-year-old physical therapist and endurance athlete attempting one of ultra running's most grueling challenges: the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning. This rare feat requires completing four iconic 100-mile races—Western States, Vermont 100, Leadville 100, and Wasatch 100—all within a single season, totaling 400 miles in just seven weeks.

Alison's athletic journey began as a scholarship soccer player at Texas A&M, transitioned through 19 Ironman competitions (including five Kona World Championships), and evolved into ultra running where she's conquered races like UTMB, Badwater, and numerous 100-milers. But the Grand Slam represents her biggest challenge yet.

In this candid interview, Alison shares the highs and lows of her quest. From her worst-ever performance at Western States—where she chased cutoffs for 29.5 hours and barely finished within the 30-hour limit—to her redemptive run at Vermont 100, and the leg-crushing reality of Leadville's elevation and cutoffs. She discusses the mental fortitude required when your body is depleted, the challenge of not training between races, and what it takes to "dig deep" when everything hurts.

Beyond the physical feats, Alison opens up about the logistics of crew support, the financial commitment required, the importance of having a supportive spouse, and how she balances this pursuit with her career as a physical therapist. She also shares insights from her extensive Ironman background and what drives someone to continually seek bigger challenges.

With Wasatch 100 and Kona still ahead at the time of recording, this episode captures an athlete mid-journey through an almost impossible challenge. Whether you're a trail runner, road runner, or simply fascinated by human endurance, Alison's story demonstrates what's possible when determination meets preparation.

Featured Topics: Grand Slam of Ultrarunning, Western States 100, Vermont 100, Leadville 100, Wasatch 100, Ironman World Championship Kona, ultra running strategy, race nutrition, crew support, endurance psychology.

After three years away from race directing, legendary Texas trail running organizer Rob Goyen is officially back with the launch of Rise Racing Co. In this candid conversation with Chris Detzel on DFW Running Talk, Rob opens up about his journey from stepping away in 2022 to his current role as a contractor with Ultra Signup, and why the pull to return to race directing became impossible to ignore.

Rob shares the personal struggles that led to his hiatus - from wanting to be present for his young daughter Ruby to dealing with "race director nightmares" that signaled his readiness to return. He discusses his transition from Ultra Signup employee to contractor, ensuring complete separation from company data and operations while maintaining his role helping race directors succeed on the platform.

The conversation dives deep into Rise Racing's inaugural event: the Tex Miss Trail Race at Bucher State Park on December 13th, 2025. Featuring distances from 7 miles to 107K, this Christmas-themed trail party promises to showcase Rob's signature style - big, bold, fun events with serious buckles and a 20-hour cutoff for the ultra distance.

Rob also reveals his broader vision for Rise Racing: 6-8 races annually across Texas, including returns to beloved locations like Surfside Beach and San Antonio. He emphasizes community building over pure competition, discussing plans for ambassador teams, elite support, and collaborative races with other directors. His partnership with longtime colleague Amanda and focus on welcoming the growing "lifestyle trail running" demographic signal an evolution in his approach.

This episode captures both the business strategy and personal passion behind one of Texas trail running's most influential figures as he prepares to re-enter the sport that shaped his identity. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to trail running, Rob's insights into community building, race organization, and the explosive growth of running clubs offer valuable perspective on where the sport is headed.

New Blood: DFW's Young Guns Raising the Bar

The bar just got raised in Dallas.

Steven Fahy, a 29-year-old NCAA steeplechase champion and Brooks Running employee, just won the Dallas Marathon in his debut with a time of 2:23:28 - making him the fastest marathoner in DFW at this moment. But this isn't just a story about natural talent crushing a race. It's about rediscovering why you run in the first place.

This episode kicks off New Blood, a special DFW Running Talk series spotlighting the next generation of elite runners who are redefining what's possible in North Texas. These aren't your average weekend warriors - they're 20-somethings running sub-2:25 marathons, breaking 3:05 on their debuts, and proving that the future of competitive running in DFW is already here.

After an accomplished collegiate career at Stanford (2019 NCAA steeplechase champion, five-time All-American, two-time Pac-12 champion), Steven moved to Dallas in 2023 and spent two years running solo. It wasn't until summer 2024 that he connected with the Sloths and local running community, transforming his training and reigniting his competitive fire.

Steven shares what it's like to win a marathon on the same routes you train daily, surrounded by the people who pushed you all season. He opens up about the mental shift from collegiate pressure to post-collegiate joy, why he's eyeing Eugene Marathon next, and what "bottle service for elites" really means.

This is the new generation of DFW running - fast, humble, and here to stay.

What You'll Learn:

• How a 2019 NCAA champion found his running community in Dallas
• The strategy behind winning your first marathon at 2:23
• Training alongside the Sloths, Train Pegasus, and DFW's best at Germany Park
• Why Steven almost thought Matt Campbell would beat him at the 1776 Mile
• The post-collegiate identity crisis every runner faces
• What's next: Eugene Marathon and the long-term marathon journey

Perfect for: Young competitive runners, post-collegiate athletes looking for direction, anyone curious about what elite-level marathon training looks like in DFW

In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Mark Olateju (affectionately known as "Mark O" to those who struggle with his last name), the beloved photographer who has been documenting the Dallas running community for over two decades. Mark's journey from a reluctant 8K participant lured by free breakfast to a sub-3:09 marathoner is as unexpected as it is inspiring.

Discover how a principal's promise of homemade breakfast sparked a running career that would span 640+ races. Mark opens up about his transformation from a "5K expert" who raced every weekend to a dedicated distance runner training at 3 AM with partners like Shaheen Satar. His story takes fascinating turns through trail running and 50-milers, all while maintaining his philosophy that "ignorance is bliss" when it comes to racing.

But Mark's true legacy lies behind the lens. Known throughout White Rock Lake and beyond as "the picture guy," he's captured thousands of moments - from triumphant PRs to those less-flattering mid-race grimaces that runners initially complained about but now treasure as authentic memories. His slow-motion videos helped runners analyze their form, though not everyone appreciated seeing their "jiggly parts" highlighted.

The conversation takes a poignant turn as Mark discusses his recent transition from competitive running following a complete knee replacement, his current focus on weightlifting and low-impact training, and his continued dedication to preserving running memories through photography. He shares the mysterious "Twilight Zone" race where runners inexplicably walked through one section of the course, memorable encounters with future Boston qualifiers, and watching his 13-year-old student casually drop a 1:27 half marathon.

This episode captures the heart of running community - the bonds formed at 4 AM training runs, the evolution from beginner to mentor, and how one person's passion for capturing moments has become an invaluable gift to an entire running community.

What happens when strangers become family through the simple act of putting one foot in front of the other? In this heartwarming episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with the leadership team of White Rock Running Co-op (WRRC) to explore how a free running club in Dallas has transformed lives and built an incredible community.

Meet Chet, who moved to Dallas knowing no one and found his people through Wednesday night runs; Craig, who discovered that showing up consistently led to lifelong friendships and invitations to concerts; Vivian, who learned that running with others isn't just more fun—it's safer; and Andy, a late-in-life runner who went from struggling to run 100 yards to completing his six World Marathon Majors, all thanks to the support and knowledge sharing within WRRC.

While we couldn't have everyone on this episode, the team also includes Nick Polito, a long-standing member who's been with the club since its infancy, and Josh Odegard, who hosts the popular Wednesday night social runs and is known for his incredible ability to connect people and build community within the group.

From track workouts on Tuesdays to the famous "Hills Pay the Bills" Wednesday sessions, Saturday long runs with post-run tacos, and Sunday recovery loops around White Rock Lake, discover how this 6,000-member community accommodates everyone from casual 5K runners to Boston qualifiers and ultra-marathoners.

You'll hear inspiring stories about:

• How the club helped Andy qualify for Boston and complete his World Marathon Majors
• The safety and camaraderie that keeps runners coming back week after week
• Why "suffering together" on the track beats suffering alone
• How showing up consistently leads to unexpected friendships and travel companions
• The welcoming culture that makes newcomers feel at home from day one

Whether you're a seasoned marathoner or someone who's never run a mile, this episode showcases the magic that happens when running becomes about more than just personal fitness—it becomes about community, friendship, and achieving dreams you never thought possible.

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Greg Rankin, a cornerstone of the Dallas-Fort Worth running community whose journey proves it's never too late for a comeback. From earning a pink fourth-place ribbon in his first high school track meet to running a 2:46 marathon, Greg's story is one of resilience, reinvention, and the power of community.

In this episode, Greg shares his three distinct "running careers" - from a college scholarship runner who walked away from the sport, to a Young Country radio team member getting back into racing, to becoming one of DFW's most respected marathon coaches. You'll hear about his dramatic transformation from 232 pounds and struggling to tie his shoes to qualifying for Boston, his harrowing experience at the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, and how he's helped dozens of runners achieve their goals.

Greg opens up about the role running played during his divorce, his decade-long Boston Marathon streak, and his transition from corporate IT to coaching elite marathoners. He also discusses the evolution of the DFW running scene, where sub-3-hour marathons have become increasingly common and the community continues to push each other to new heights.

Whether you're a beginner looking for inspiration or an experienced runner seeking insights from a seasoned coach, Greg's story offers valuable lessons about persistence, smart training, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right community.

Topics covered:

• Early running career and college scholarship
• Three major comebacks to the sport
• Boston Marathon bombing experience
• Coaching philosophy and approach
• The evolution of DFW's running community
• Training for sub-3-hour marathons
• Balancing family and running goals

Recorded live in Dallas, Texas

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Chris and Anne Barnwell, the husband-and-wife team behind Blaze Trails Running, one of Texas's most beloved trail racing organizations.

Discover how Chris transformed from a 245-pound tech worker to an ultra-runner whose first 100-miler was the legendary Western States, and how Anne found healing and purpose through running during her own life transitions. Their love story began at a running club, evolved over cake concerts and trail miles, and ultimately led them to create a trail running empire spanning 12 races across Texas.

From taking over struggling races like Grasslands and Rockledge Rumble to building new challenges like the grueling Dana Peak course, the Barnwells share the behind-the-scenes reality of race directing—from permit struggles and weather cancellations to the incredible volunteer community that makes it all possible.

Learn about their philosophy of making trail running accessible to everyone, from 5K newcomers to seasoned 100-mile veterans, and why they believe trail running creates a unique community where elite athletes and back-of-the-pack runners share the same trails and support each other's journeys.

Whether you're a seasoned ultra-runner or someone curious about getting into trail running, this episode offers insights into the passion, dedication, and community spirit that drives the Texas trail running scene.

Featured Races: Grasslands Trail Run, Rockledge Rumble, Dana Peak Challenge, Possum Kingdom Trail Run, and more.

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Richardson native Farrell Hedrick, whose remarkable running journey embodies the power of transformation and perseverance. What started as a simple goal to lose 50 pounds after college has evolved into an incredible story of athletic achievement and career reinvention.

Farrell shares his progression from struggling to run half a mile in uptown Dallas to becoming a 2:47 marathoner with 31 marathons under his belt. Along the way, he opens up about the mental challenges of his first Dallas Marathon, the breakthrough race at Woodlands Marathon that changed everything, and how accidentally coaching a friend led him to discover his true passion.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• How Farrell went from finance and investment banking to becoming an RRCA-certified running coach
• His recent career pivot to Training Program Director at Fleet Feet Dallas
• The exciting new performance-focused training program he's launching across the DFW metroplex
• Training and nutrition insights from someone who's made every mistake and learned from it
• The untapped potential he sees in Dallas's running community

Whether you're a beginner runner, seasoned marathoner, or someone contemplating a major life change, Farrell's story proves that with consistency and courage, extraordinary transformations are possible. Plus, hear about the innovative weekly track nights and community-building initiatives coming to North Texas that aim to elevate the entire Dallas running scene.

What do you get when you mix a guy who got hit by a car at 14, another who abandoned his marathon buddy via 4AM text, and enough curry paste to feed a small army? This episode of DFW Running Talk.

Join Chris as he sits down with Colin Hamilton and Philip Paris, two runners whose friendship was forged through shared miles, questionable life choices, and an inexplicable love of Indian food. Colin's journey starts with getting literally run over by his brother's girlfriend (yes, really) and somehow leads to a brief but legendary ice cream empire that had people offering him business deals while he just wanted to make frozen treats for fellow runners.

Philip's story is slightly less dramatic but equally relatable – from soccer player to cycling enthusiast to the guy who did Couch to 5K, immediately detrained, then somehow convinced himself a 4-mile Turkey Trot was achievable. Spoiler alert: it was.

The conversation takes some serious turns as Colin opens up about mental health, panic attacks, and learning when to say no to opportunities that look good on Instagram but feel terrible in real life. Meanwhile, Philip navigates the beautiful chaos of new parenthood while trying to maintain his sub-3 marathon dreams and wondering if he'll ever sleep through the night again.

From terrible marathon training advice (running every workout at race pace, anyone?) to the wind-battered disaster that was Houston 2025, these two prove that running journeys are rarely linear – and that's exactly what makes them worth sharing.

Topics covered: Injury recovery, marathon training disasters, mental health in running, entrepreneurship burnout, parenting while training, finding your running community, and why your watch doesn't actually tell you how fast to run.

Perfect for runners who've ever questioned their life choices at mile 20.

Join host Chris Detzel as he sits down with Matt Barron, whose incredible marathon journey spans over a decade of ups, downs, and breakthrough moments. Matt shares his transformation from struggling with 3:25 marathons to running a stunning 2:38 at Houston Marathon.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• How Matt went from "couch to Dallas Marathon" training cycles for 7 years
• The game-changing moment when he joined the Dallas running community
• Why consistency matters more than speed in marathon training
• How running 90 miles per week led to a 21-minute PR
• The mental shift that took him from Boston qualifier to sub-2:40 runner
• Practical training tips for breaking through marathon plateaus

Matt's story proves that marathon success isn't just about talent—it's about patience, consistency, and finding your running tribe. Whether you're chasing your first Boston qualifier or looking to break through a time plateau, this conversation offers honest insights into what it really takes to achieve your marathon goals.

Perfect for: Marathon runners, Boston Marathon hopefuls, running community enthusiasts, and anyone looking for motivation to stay consistent with their training.

Guest: Matt Barron - Sub-2:40 marathoner, Boston qualifier, and active member of the Dallas/Fort Worth running community.

Marathon training at 7,000 feet elevation: Amanda Hicks shares how she's run 16 consecutive Boston Marathons with a 3:01 PR while living in Flagstaff, Arizona. From Dallas Morning News reporter to elite altitude runner, discover her 70-mile weekly training routine, White Rock Lake heat training origins, nutrition strategies for long runs, and race tactics that helped her nearly break the 3-hour barrier. Plus: Sydney Marathon plans, ultramarathon insights, and advice for qualifying for Boston. Perfect for runners seeking elite marathon training tips and Boston qualification strategies. 

Dallas runner Rebecca Roush shares her journey from college injuries to running a 2:57 marathon as a new mom. Discover her low-mileage training approach, cross-training secrets, and how she overcame multiple stress fractures and ACL surgery to achieve consistent marathon PRs. Rebecca reveals why high-mileage training didn't work for her body, how she found her sweet spot at 50 miles per week, and the game-changing role of strength training and cycling. Plus, hear about her dramatic Boston Marathon experience, training with Dallas running groups like Train Pegasus and Completely Sloth, and managing postpartum running with baby George. Essential listening for injury-prone runners, working moms balancing training, and anyone seeking sustainable marathon success 

From devastating stress fractures to a 3:14 marathon PR - athletic trainer and mom Amy Lyles shares her incredible running comeback story with host Chris Detzel. After being sidelined for a full year with pubic bone injuries following her first pregnancy, Amy rebuilt from zero with just 5-minute run/walk intervals.

In this episode, Chris and Amy discuss how she:

• Overcame multiple stress fractures and bone density issues
• Used Peloton training to stay fit during injury recovery
• Worked with coach Neely Gracie to achieve a 7-minute marathon PR at Houston
• Balanced motherhood with Boston Marathon qualifying goals
• Found community through Ray's Track Club and DFW runners

Key topics: Marathon training for moms, stress fracture recovery, postpartum running challenges, athletic trainer insights, Peloton cross-training, bone density issues in female athletes, Ray's Track Club, Houston Marathon, Boston qualifying times.

Perfect for runners dealing with injury setbacks, new moms returning to running, or anyone seeking inspiration for their comeback journey. 

Amy's story proves that with patience, proper coaching, and determination, you can come back stronger than ever.

Guest: Amy Lyles, Athletic Trainer at Plano West High School

Host: Chris Detzel Part of DFW Running Talk - featuring Dallas-Fort Worth running community stories.

Brent Woodle didn't run competitively in high school or college—he was too busy playing World of Warcraft. But after moving to Dallas at 25 with no friends and a bucket list goal to run a marathon, he joined every running club he could find. Fast forward to today, and Brent is one of the fastest masters runners in DFW, with a 2:28 marathon PR.

In this episode, recorded before the Dallas Marathon (where Brent would go on to run 2:39:05), we dive deep into what it takes to run at an elite level as a masters athlete. Fresh off running 2:28:26 at the Indianapolis Marathon, Brent shares his high-volume training philosophy—100-mile weeks, running twice a day six days per week, tempo-focused workouts over VO2 max intervals, and the importance of making running a daily habit. He opens up about the mental battles of goal-setting, recovering from burnout after Houston Marathon, and the sacrifices required—giving up alcohol during training cycles and prioritizing eight hours of sleep every night.

Whether you're chasing your own PR or curious about what separates good runners from great ones, Brent's story offers candid insights into the discipline, routine, and mental approach needed to compete at the highest level while balancing a 16-year career as a software engineer and raising two young kids.

Episode Highlights:

• How Brent went from casual runner to 2:28 marathoner without running in high school or college
• His high-volume training approach: doubles six days per week, prioritizing frequency over intensity
• Why running two 5-milers is better than one 10-miler for injury prevention and recovery
• Race fueling strategy: consuming 900+ calories during marathons with Maurten gels and mix
• The mental challenge of pacing and avoiding the trap of starting too fast
• Plans for Paris and Chicago marathons in 2026 at age 41
• The importance of running community and lifelong friendships built through the sport

In this compelling follow-up episode, Matt Campbell returns to share his evolved approach to racing and the mindset shifts that have transformed his competitive strategy. From his dominant performance at the Velvet Hammer 5K to his ambitious sub-2:30 marathon goals, Matt breaks down how he's learned to race the competition rather than chase times.

Matt opens up about his tactical approach to the Velvet Hammer 5K, where he brought his Completely Sloth teammates and executed a perfectly planned race strategy—breaking the 5K into kilometers with specific mantras for each segment. He reveals how letting go of time fixation and focusing on execution has actually made him faster and more confident on race day.

Beyond racing tactics, Matt dives deep into the challenge of balancing elite-level training with family life and a demanding career. He discusses his "three pillars" philosophy—family, work, and running—and how he's learned to periodize his life while keeping family as the top priority. From skipping Boston Marathon to be present for his family to the reality of 5 AM training sessions, Matt shares honest insights about making sacrifices and finding sustainable balance.

The conversation also covers the often-overlooked importance of strength training for runners, injury prevention through experience, and the mental game that separates good runners from great ones. Matt candidly discusses his upcoming California International Marathon goal, his transition into speed season, and his growing role as both a coach and community builder in the DFW running scene.

Whether you're chasing PRs or simply trying to fit running into a busy life, Matt's perspective on racing smart, training purposefully, and maintaining balance offers valuable lessons for runners at every level.

Topics Covered:

• Race strategy and execution over time goals
• Balancing elite training with family and career
• The importance of strength training for runners
• Building and leading running communities
• Mental approaches to competition and goal-setting
• Upcoming race plans and sub-2:30 marathon goals

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Michael Mazzara, CEO of Rogue Expeditions, who's revolutionizing how runners think about their sport. After signing up for 20 marathons and only finishing 3 due to constant injuries, Michael discovered there's more to running than chasing PRs and collecting race medals.

From his early days attempting untrained half marathons in Brooklyn to building a successful running travel company in Austin, Michael shares his journey of falling out of love with racing and into love with adventure. He explains why he believes the running community has become too focused on competition and how Rogue Expeditions offers an alternative—immersive cultural travel experiences for runners who want to explore the world's most beautiful trails without the pressure of race day.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why most running opportunities feel "too one-dimensional"
• The difference between running a city during a race vs. truly experiencing it
• How running travel compares to cycling tours and yoga retreats
• What it's like to run through Morocco's Atlas Mountains, Iceland's glaciers, and Italy's Dolomites
• Why the "stop racing, start exploring" philosophy resonates with so many runners
• How Rogue Expeditions creates adventures for all fitness levels with expert guides

Whether you're burned out on racing, curious about destination running, or simply love hearing about epic adventures, this conversation will challenge how you think about your running journey. Michael's passion for creating meaningful experiences over competitive achievements offers a refreshing perspective on what it means to be a runner.

What happens when a former ski bum who used to hide in pickup trucks to avoid running decides to chase a Boston qualifier in his very first marathon? You get one of the most inspiring transformation stories we've ever featured on DFW Running Talk.

Host Chris Detzel interviews Kevin Hebert, a 46-year-old who went from running just twice a week with Dallas Running Club to breaking 3:10 in his marathon debut. In this captivating conversation, Kevin shares his incredible journey from someone who "would never run a marathon" to crossing the finish line at California International Marathon in a stunning 3:08:58.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• How Kevin transformed from a casual half-marathoner to a sub-3:10 machine in just one training cycle
• The mindset shift that changed everything (hint: it involved quitting coffee and alcohol)
• Why he hired a coach for his first marathon and how it paid off
• The exact training approach that took him from 35 miles per week to 70 miles at peak
• His emotional finish line moment and immediate plans for marathon #2
• The power of running with experienced groups like White Rock Running Co-op

Whether you're a weekend warrior wondering what's possible or a seasoned runner looking for motivation, Kevin's story proves that with the right focus, coaching, and community, extraordinary breakthroughs can happen faster than you think.

This isn't just another running story – it's proof that sometimes the biggest transformations come from the most unexpected places.

In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Duncan Cragg, the legendary store manager at Luke's Locker and a cornerstone of the Dallas-Fort Worth running community for over three decades.

Duncan's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Growing up in apartheid-era South Africa, he discovered his passion for distance running in elementary school when he couldn't make the track team as a sprinter. This setback became the catalyst for an incredible journey that would take him from the high altitude training grounds of South Africa to SMU's track team as a steeplechase specialist.

What makes this episode special:

• An inspiring immigration story: How running became Duncan's pathway from South Africa to America, including his recruitment to SMU during the final year of apartheid
• Breaking barriers through sport: Duncan's powerful account of training with athletes across racial lines before it was legal, and how this integrated group elevated everyone's performance to world-class levels
• From competitor to community builder: Why Duncan stepped away from racing marathons to focus on the "mindful journey" of running and helping others discover their own relationship with the sport
• 30 years at Luke's Locker: Behind-the-scenes insights into the specialty running industry, shoe technology evolution, and how the Dallas running boom has transformed over the decades
• Revolutionary family running program: Duncan's innovative approach to bringing parents and kids together through his unique group at White Rock Lake's Norbuck Park

Key topics explored:

• The philosophy of distance running vs. sprint mentality
• How modern shoe technology (carbon plates, super shoes) is changing the sport - for better and worse
• The explosion of Dallas running culture and diverse running communities
• Creating inclusive spaces where families can exercise together
• The difference between performance-driven and journey-focused running

Duncan's perspective on running transcends times and technology. He advocates for "parkour-style" natural movement, mindful running without structured intervals, and staying connected to the pure joy of the sport. His family running group has become a safe haven for kids intimidated by traditional track teams and a bridge for parents wanting to share the running experience with their children.

Whether you're a seasoned runner curious about the evolution of the sport, a parent looking to get active with your kids, or someone interested in how running can build community across cultural and generational divides, this episode offers profound insights and inspiration.

Perfect for listeners who enjoy:

• Stories of athletic achievement and personal growth
• Immigration and cultural integration narratives
• Community building and youth development
• Running industry insights and shoe technology discussions
• Philosophy of sport and mindful movement

Don't miss Duncan's take on why he's never run past a half marathon, his thoughts on the "Labrador with a tennis ball" mentality of race-focused runners, and how a chance meeting in a South African running store led to a 30-year career helping Dallas runners find their perfect fit.

Join host Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Traci Duty, whose 23-year running journey proves that breakthrough performances can happen at any age. From her first cotton-clad marathon disaster in college (4:28) to becoming a sub-3:00 marathoner at 45 (2:52), Traci's story is a masterclass in persistence, community, and smart training.

In this episode, Traci shares:

• Her early days as a high school sprinter who "hated" cross country
• The friends who kept convincing her to run "just one more marathon"
• How joining the Dallas Running Club transformed her training approach
• The power of running with faster groups (hello, Sloths!) and believing in bigger goals
• Her breakthrough season: four consecutive PR half marathons leading to her first sub-3:00 marathon
• Training insights including strength work, nutrition, and race strategy "chunking"
• The reality of running injuries and her current battle with osteoarthritis in both knees

What makes Traci's story particularly compelling is her late-career speed development. At an age when many runners are slowing down, she was running personal bests and keeping pace with athletes 10+ years younger. Her journey highlights the importance of community, proper training, and never giving up on your potential.

Whether you're chasing your first marathon PR or wondering if your fastest days are behind you, Traci's story will remind you that with the right mindset, training partners, and approach, breakthrough performances are possible at any stage of your running journey.

Key Takeaways: The power of training groups, importance of strength training and nutrition, race strategy tips, and maintaining a positive mindset through injury setbacks.

Join Chris Detzel for an inspiring conversation with Ray Nicholas, the founder of RTC (Ray's Track Club) and one of DFW's most influential runners. Ray shares his incredible three-chapter running journey - from high school cross country star running 15:32 for 5K in California, through a 15-year hiatus filled with basketball, weightlifting, and other sports, to his remarkable return to running that culminated in a stunning 2:48 marathon PR.

Discover how Ray went from a casual 3:42 first marathon to breaking the 3-hour barrier and eventually running 2:48 at Houston Marathon - a massive 15-minute personal record achieved through what he calls his best training block ever. Ray reveals the secrets behind that breakthrough performance, including training alongside elite DFW athletes like Melanie Lawson, Jennifer Pope, and Brent Woodle.

Learn about the founding of RTC (Ray's Track Club), born from a simple need for quality training partners in North Dallas. What started as Ray organizing workouts for a small group has grown into a 60-member community that's helping elevate the entire DFW running scene. Ray discusses how surrounding yourself with faster runners pushes everyone to new levels - a philosophy that's helped create the incredible depth of sub-3:00 marathoners in Dallas-Fort Worth.

The conversation also covers Ray's Boston Marathon experiences, his thoughts on modern shoe technology's impact on performance and recovery, and his upcoming goal of chasing a 2:43 marathon. Plus, hear about his awkward first meeting with Chris at the airport before Boston 2019, complete with lacrosse ball rolling on the terminal floor.

Whether you're chasing your first Boston qualifier or dreaming of going sub-3, Ray's story proves that with the right training partners, dedication, and community support, remarkable breakthroughs are possible at any stage of your running journey.

Key Topics: Marathon training, Boston Marathon, running community, DFW running scene, personal records, training groups, sub-3 hour marathons, shoe technology, Houston Marathon

In this compelling follow-up episode, Chris Detzel welcomes back Travis Dowd, the talented runner who made headlines by winning his very first marathon at the Dallas Marathon. But this time, Travis shares a different side of the running experience - dealing with injury and the long road back to racing.

Fresh off his breakthrough marathon victory, Travis found himself sidelined with a tibial stress reaction after pushing his recovery too hard too soon. In this honest and insightful conversation, he opens up about the mental and physical challenges of being injured, the mistakes he made during his comeback attempt, and the valuable lessons he's learning about listening to his body.

Travis discusses his creative approach to maintaining fitness through cross-training (following the "10 minutes of biking equals 1 mile of running" rule), the difficult decision to pull out of Grandma's Marathon, and how he's setting his sights on Houston 2026 with Olympic Trial aspirations. As a medical student balancing intense academics with elite running goals, Travis offers a unique perspective on how his studies actually help prevent overtraining and provide mental balance.

From the realities of post-marathon recovery to finding the right balance between competition and health, this episode provides valuable insights for runners of all levels. Whether you're dealing with your own injury setback or simply curious about what it takes to compete at the highest levels while pursuing a demanding career, Travis's story offers both practical advice and inspiration.

Plus, hear about the incredible Dallas-Fort Worth running community and why this region continues to attract and develop world-class talent.

Check out the first episode here Med Student to Marathon Victor: Travis Dowd's Journey to 2024 Dallas Marathon Glory

This engaging episode of DFW Running Talk features host Chris Detzel interviewing four exceptional marathon runners who recently competed in the Boston and London Marathons. The conversation provides a fascinating glimpse into the world of elite marathon running from local DFW athletes.

Aaron Pearson discusses his Boston Marathon PR of 2:37:13, sharing insights about his race strategy and nutrition miscalculations that impacted his performance. Rena Elmer, a 42-year-old mother of seven, reveals her impressive Boston Marathon journey where she finished 43rd overall after entering ranked 50th. Mimi Smith details her Boston experience, where she ran 2:34:04 and placed 26th overall, achieving a PR on the challenging course. Jennifer Pope rounds out the group with her London Marathon accomplishment, running a 2:36:11 PR in what she described as the "rowdiest" marathon atmosphere she's experienced.

The runners engage in thoughtful discussion about several key marathon topics, including:

• Race preparation strategies and how they manage travel, rest, and expo experiences before major marathons
• The balance between racing competitively versus pursuing specific time goals
• Nutrition strategies and lessons learned during marathon performances
• The experience of running with or without pacers during elite marathon competitions
• Their future racing plans, including potential Olympic Trials aspirations

The episode offers valuable insights for runners of all levels while showcasing the impressive achievements of these local elite athletes. As Chris notes in his closing comments, the podcast celebrates both the athletic accomplishments and the dedication these runners bring to their craft.

In this inspiring episode, host Chris Detzel brings together five remarkable women runners from the Dallas-Fort Worth area who recently completed the 2025 Boston Marathon. Julie Rembold (2:56), Liz Northern (sub-3:00), Rebecca Roush (3:11), Maddie Stier (2:55), and Jill Wolf (2:54) share their personal journeys to Boston and experiences on the iconic course.

The conversation covers their diverse training approaches—from high-mileage weeks (Jill's 100-mile peak) to quality-focused training (Liz's focus with young children)—and explores how these dedicated runners balance serious marathon training with family life. Rebecca candidly discusses her postpartum comeback with just 34 days of training, while Julie shares how the right nutrition strategy transformed her race experience.

The women recount memorable moments: Liz high-fiving spectators with a permanent smile, Maddie losing her phone at mile three (and amazingly getting it back!), Julie navigating water stations, and Rebecca balancing breastfeeding with marathon logistics. They also share practical Boston-specific advice about everything from booking hotels early to managing the deceptive course profile.

Whether you're a Boston qualifier yourself, aspiring to get there, or simply enjoy hearing authentic stories from passionate runners, this episode captures the electric atmosphere, supportive community, and magical experience that makes the Boston Marathon truly special.

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In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Jonathan Brower, a structural engineer and accomplished runner who's known for casually passing other racers while pushing a stroller. The conversation begins with Chris recounting how Jonathan once passed him during a 5K at White Rock while pushing his baby in a stroller and discussing the Stars game.

Jonathan shares his unique running journey, which began not as a passion but as training for tennis. After getting burned out on tennis during grad school in 2012, he discovered running as a standalone activity and quickly found success, running his first marathon in Chicago with an impressive 3:06 despite minimal structured training.

The conversation traces Jonathan's growth as a runner: joining Dallas Running Club, running New York Marathon, and eventually achieving a breakthrough 2:58 in Portland after following a more structured training approach. His running adventures include a rainy Boston Marathon experience where he laughed at the absurdity of the terrible conditions, and a triumphant return to New York in 2023 where he PR'd with a 2:57 despite balancing training with raising two young children.

Jonathan discusses his data-driven coaching philosophy and how becoming a parent transformed his approach to training - emphasizing consistency over perfection and the importance of "getting comfortable being uncomfortable." The episode concludes with Jonathan's involvement in the Form Follows Fitness 5K, which perfectly combines his love of architecture and running, and his role in encouraging colleagues to participate in the event.

Ruth Atkinson is helping runners of all levels achieve their own breakthroughs as a coach with McKirdy Trained.

In this episode, Ruth shares her unconventional path to running, starting with a spontaneous decision to go for a run instead of watching Grey's Anatomy one night in 2018. With a background in music education and drum corps, Ruth brings a unique perspective to coaching that emphasizes patience, curiosity, and building durable runners through strength training.

We dive deep into her coaching philosophy, including why new marathoners shouldn't set time goals for their first race, the critical importance of fueling (hint: one gel isn't enough), and why single-leg strength training is essential for injury prevention. Ruth also shares practical advice for runners at every level and her powerful message about not counting yourself out, no matter your pace or experience.

Whether you're a beginner contemplating your first 5K or an experienced runner chasing a PR, Ruth's insights will inspire you to stay curious and keep pushing your limits.

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In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Jill Wolf, an accomplished marathon runner who shares her remarkable journey from high school cross country to becoming the 2023 Dallas Marathon champion. Jill candidly discusses her evolution as a runner - from early talent in high school to completely giving up running in college, before rediscovering her passion as an adult. Listeners will hear about her progression from a 1:56 half marathon to breaking the elite sub-2:50 marathon barrier, with all the triumphs and setbacks along the way. Jill offers valuable insights on marathon strategy, nutrition lessons learned the hard way, and the importance of smart racing over blindly chasing pace goals.

Her story of winning the Dallas Marathon on her home course provides an inspiring conclusion to a conversation filled with practical wisdom for runners of all levels.

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Join host Chris Detzel as he interviews Ariana Allen, a dedicated nurse who transformed from a casual runner into an elite sub-3 hour marathoner. This inspiring conversation tracks Ariana's remarkable journey from her first marathon finish of 4:40 to breaking the coveted 3-hour barrier with a 2:59 flat. Discover how structured coaching, science-based nutrition, and unwavering determination helped Ariana unlock her potential while balancing a demanding healthcare career. From running through the COVID-19 pandemic as a frontline worker to competing in world majors like Boston, Chicago, and Berlin, Ariana shares the practical lessons, training adjustments, and mindset shifts that fueled her extraordinary progression. This episode offers valuable insights for runners of all levels looking to shatter their own limits. 

In this episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Garrett Mayeaux, an elite triathlete pursuing a professional career. Garrett shares his journey from amateur to pro, discussing how he balances his chiropractic practice with training, racing, and coaching. He opens up about the financial challenges of professional triathlon, including expensive equipment, race fees, and travel costs, while explaining how he's pieced together income from part-time work, coaching, and sponsorships. 

Garrett also details his racing schedule, performance goals, and how a conversation with triathlon legend Greg Bennett convinced him to pursue the sport professionally despite having an established career. Throughout the conversation, Garrett provides fascinating insights into the world of professional triathlon training, the competitive landscape, and his connection to the vibrant DFW running community. 

In this captivating episode, we sit down with elite runner Melanie Lassen who shares her remarkable journey of balancing competitive marathon running with motherhood. From her impressive 2:51 Boston Marathon finish to navigating middle-of-the-night feedings with her non-sleeping 9-month-old, Melanie opens up about the realities of pursuing athletic excellence while raising two young children. She takes us through her 20-year running career, from college competition to winning multiple marathons, including her dramatic last-chance Boston qualifier that involved a canceled race, a rental car, and pumping in a race director's truck. 

Melanie candidly discusses running through pregnancy, postpartum comebacks, and how motherhood has shifted her perspective on training and performance. Whether she's fitting in runs after daycare drop-off or dreaming of breaking 2:50, her story demonstrates that elite performance and parenthood can coexist—even when sleep doesn't. This episode offers inspiration for competitive mother-runners and practical insights on maintaining high-level fitness during life's most demanding seasons. 

In this inspiring episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Maddie Stier, a remarkable marathon runner who balances elite performance with motherhood. From qualifying for Boston at her very first marathon to navigating pregnancy with twins, Maddie shares her extraordinary journey of running 20 marathons while raising three children under two.

Discover how Maddie transitioned from casual runner to 2:50 marathoner after joining Dallas's running community, the importance of training partners who pushed her limits, and her creative strategies for fitting in high-mileage weeks around early morning family life. Maddie offers candid insights about maintaining her running passion through pregnancy, postpartum recovery, and the logistical challenges of elite training as a busy mom.

Whether you're a parent looking to maintain fitness, a competitive runner seeking inspiration, or simply love stories of perseverance, Maddie's journey from accidental Boston qualifier to motherhood marathon champion will motivate runners of all levels. Don't miss her preparation strategies for Boston 2025 and her "Summer of Strength" plans beyond!

In this special episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews his wife and running extraordinaire, Lea Ivy. With no formal running background, Lea transformed herself from a recreational college jogger into a Boston Marathon qualifying machine, completing the prestigious race for 11 consecutive years with a 12th on the horizon.  Subscribe to our Substack newsletter

Lea shares her remarkable evolution from running her first half marathon on a whim to achieving a 3:14 marathon PR at age 45. Listen as she reveals the methodical approach that's kept her injury-free for over a decade, her philosophy of training by effort rather than pace, and how working with sports nutrition experts revolutionized her performance.

This conversation goes beyond race accomplishments to explore the mental resilience required for ultra-marathons, the challenges of recent injuries, and how their shared adventures—including traversing the Swiss Alps—have strengthened their bond as a couple. Whether you're a seasoned marathoner or just beginning your running journey, Lea's emphasis on consistency over talent offers invaluable wisdom for runners at every level.

Join us for an intimate look at what it takes to sustain excellence in running and in life, told through the journey of one of Dallas's most inspiring yet humble marathon mavens. 

In this captivating episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Andy Wheatcroft, an inspiring 'mature runner' who completed all six World Marathon Majors. Andy's extraordinary transformation began 14 years ago in the UK when, 50 pounds overweight with a goatee that failed to hide his double chin, he could barely run 100 feet without vomiting. Motivated by his father's sudden death from a heart attack at 60 and his son's classmate battling brain cancer, Andy embarked on a journey that would change his life forever.

The interview captures the moment Andy became a 'real runner' – coincidentally the same day Michael Jackson died, when local teenagers shouted the news as he completed his first non-stop 2.1-mile run. From this humble beginning, Andy methodically tackled increasingly challenging distances, raising significant funds for charities along the way, including $20,000 for his first London Marathon.

Listeners will hear detailed accounts of each major marathon – from the emotional significance of Boston, which took him exactly 10 years to qualify for, to his spectacular fall and recovery during Tokyo. Andy shares his evolution as a runner, from struggling with basic training principles to eventually incorporating 70-mile weeks and structured long runs with strategic negative loading.

The conversation explores Andy's engineering mindset and how it applies to marathon strategy, including his unconventional A-B-C goal approach where his fastest goal was actually 'Plan C' – a mental trick that helped him achieve his Boston Qualifying time. He also reveals the emotional moments that defined his races, like placing a silk lily at the Boston bombing memorial and bursting into tears at the sight of Boylston Street.

Throughout the episode, Andy emphasizes that while the medals and accomplishments are rewarding, the true value lies in the running community – particularly Dallas's vibrant running scene and the incredible friendships formed along the way. From track workouts at 6 AM to margaritas after long runs, Andy's story demonstrates how running transcends physical fitness to become a lifestyle built around connection, challenge, and giving back through pacing opportunities.

Now semi-retired and contemplating new challenges like the emerging marathon majors in Sydney and Cape Town, Andy Wheatcroft's journey exemplifies how running can completely transform a life, one mile at a time.

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Dr. Matt Campbell, a pediatric oncologist who transformed from an out-of-shape medical fellow to a sub-2:31 marathoner and running coach. Matt shares his remarkable journey from struggling to run two miles to qualifying for Boston Marathon in his second race ever.

The conversation explores how Matt found his running community with the "Sloths" - a semi-formal running collective in Dallas that balances serious training with a fun, supportive atmosphere. Matt candidly discusses his marathon experiences, including a humbling Boston debut, his coaching philosophy, and his current goal of breaking the 2:30 barrier.

What makes this episode particularly compelling is Matt's authentic perspective on running as something that should "restore energy" to your life, his insights on the mental game of marathon racing, and his vision for elevating Dallas's running scene by creating a community where runners inspire each other to reach new heights. Both recreational runners and serious marathoners will find valuable takeaways from Matt's thoughtful approach to training, racing, and building running communities.

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Carlos Para, a dentist from Spain who has built an impressive running career after moving to Dallas. Carlos shares his journey from playing field hockey in Spain to becoming a competitive marathoner who has completed seven marathons in a single year, with a personal best of 2:37 at the St. George Marathon.

Carlos discusses how he discovered his passion for running during the COVID-19 pandemic, his remarkably fast progression from novice to Boston qualifier in his first marathon (finishing in 2:55), and his strategic approach to training. The conversation covers Carlos's experiences with both road marathons and ultratrail races, including his participation in prestigious UTMB events as he pursues qualification for Western States.

Throughout the episode, Carlos offers insights about balancing professional life with serious running, training in Dallas's challenging climate, unique training camps he creates in mountainous regions, and how he combines his love of travel with running adventures across the globe. A fascinating look at the journey of a dedicated runner who has found ways to pursue excellence despite the limitations of training in a flat terrain city.

Boston & London Marathon Prep with DFW's Elite Runners

Join host Chris Detzel for an insightful roundtable with six elite DFW-area runners as they prepare for the prestigious Boston and London Marathons. This episode features Brent Woodall, Matt Barron, Aaron Pearson, Eric Bretl, Jennifer Pope, and Mimi Smith - collectively known as "The Sloths" - who share their impressive qualifying times, ambitious race goals, and detailed training strategies.

Listen as these accomplished athletes discuss their personalized training approaches, with weekly mileage ranging from 75-110 miles, and their perspectives on strength training, nutrition, and race-day fueling. The group dives into Boston Marathon course specifics, including the infamous Heartbreak Hill, and offers practical advice for handling everything from mid-race hydration to the unique challenges of Boston's late-morning start time.

Whether you're aiming for a Boston Qualifier or simply curious about high-performance marathon training, this episode provides valuable insights from runners targeting impressive sub-2:40 finish times while balancing careers, families, and everyday life. Don't miss their candid reflections on community support, finding sustainable training approaches, and their post-marathon plans.

Paul Box is the embodiment of running as adventure. Starting his serious running journey at age 30 with a 3:29 marathon, Paul has become a 12-time Boston Marathon finisher, ultrarunning enthusiast, and two-time World Marathon Challenge finisher (7 marathons, 7 continents, 7 days).

As a board member of the Dallas White Rock Marathon, Paul is helping elevate the race by bringing in approximately 150 NAIA Championship athletes and restarting the partnership with Sendai, Japan. He shares his passion for FKTs (Fastest Known Times), running from the Caribbean to the Pacific in Panama, organizing the Waxahatchee 50-miler for 500 runners, and why the 50-mile distance might be the perfect ultra.

Whether you're chasing a BQ, curious about ultras, or dreaming of your next running adventure, Paul's philosophy is simple: go out and find your adventure in this beautiful world.

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel sits down with Alfonzo Gonzalez, the founder and coach of Train Pegasus, one of the Dallas-Fort Worth area's most respected running groups.

Alfonzo's Running Journey

Alfonzo shares his humble beginnings in running, starting in 2009 when a coworker invited him to join a Luke's Locker social run. Despite struggling to complete the six-mile route, Alfonso persisted and gradually built his endurance. With a background in boxing, football, and tennis, Alfonso had some athletic foundation but found the transition to distance running challenging.

His first marathon (Dallas Marathon in 2009/2010) finished just under four hours, and Alfonzo candidly recalls sitting against a wall afterward, convinced it would be his last. However, encouragement from friends led him to continue, eventually transforming into an accomplished marathoner with a personal best of 2:42:40 at CIM (California International Marathon).

The Birth of Train Pegasus

Train Pegasus originated in 2019 when Alfonzo, who was already coaching individual runners, recognized the need for a group where his athletes could train together. What began as a small collection of runners has grown into a vibrant community that meets multiple times per week.

Alfonzo deliberately named the group "Train Pegasus" rather than using his own name because he wanted it to feel like a community rather than just his personal coaching business. The group has expanded through word-of-mouth and referrals, with no formal marketing required.

Coaching Philosophy

Alfonzo coaches approximately 75 active runners (and has coached over 200 total), from local Dallas runners to athletes in Canada and Mexico. His coaching philosophy centers on the "80/20 rule" - 80% easy running and 20% hard efforts. He emphasizes recovery and isn't afraid to run at slower paces (10:30-12:00 minute miles) during recovery days.

He works with runners of all levels, from those targeting one-mile improvements to ultramarathoners, and has even coached high school runners looking to break five minutes in the mile. Alfonzo takes pride in tailoring his approach to each athlete's needs and isn't afraid to refer runners to other coaches when he isn't the right fit.

Community Building

What stands out most about Alfonso's approach is his commitment to inclusivity. While Train Pegasus initially gained a reputation for fast runners, Alfonzo has deliberately created multiple weekly runs at various paces:

• Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday runs are more social and relaxed (9:30-10:30 pace)
• Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday workouts are for "clocking in" (more serious training)

Alfonzo personally ensures that newcomers feel welcome, often sacrificing his own workout to run with someone new to make sure they don't get lost. The group has grown from 4-10 people on social run days to 30+ participants, with workout days sometimes drawing 30-40 runners or more when multiple running clubs join together.

Balancing Life and Running

Throughout the conversation, Alfonzo discusses how he balances his full-time career at AT&T (where he's worked for 20+ years as an account manager) with his coaching responsibilities, which he describes as "a full-time job as well." He mentions that someday he might consider coaching full-time to provide more one-on-one training sessions.

Marathon Accomplishments

Alfonzo has completed 33 marathons, including New York as part of his journey toward completing all six World Marathon Majors (with Berlin scheduled next and hopes for London and Tokyo in the future). He typically focuses on one serious marathon effort per year, with his consistent performance ranging from 2:43 to 2:45.

He also frequently serves as a pacer for both races and his own athletes, including an upcoming 3-hour pacing duty at California International Marathon (Cowtown), which he has paced for the past 4-5 years.

Advice for Coaches

Near the end of the interview, Alfonzo shares wisdom for aspiring running coaches, emphasizing that success doesn't happen overnight. He advises new coaches not to take it personally when runners move to different coaches, comparing it to business relationships that naturally evolve over time.

Throughout the conversation, Alfonzo's passion for the running community shines through, as does his genuine desire to help runners of all abilities improve and enjoy the sport for the long term.

In this episode of DFW Running Talk, you (Chris Detzel) hosted Andy Wang, the race director of the Fort Worth Marathon. The conversation provided an in-depth look at Andy's running journey, his race directing experiences, and his impressive personal achievements in the running community.

Andy's Running Background

Andy shared that he began his fitness journey in 2007 when he joined friends training with the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. Interestingly, he started with triathlons before focusing more on running. He completed his first half marathon around 2007 with the Dallas Running Club. Andy mentioned dealing with common running injuries early in his journey, including IT band issues and a stress fracture.

The Running Streak

One of the most notable aspects of the conversation was Andy's impressive running streak. At the time of recording, he was on day 975 of his consecutive running streak that began during the COVID pandemic. He averages an astonishing 10 miles per day, having logged over 3,650 miles annually for the past four years. Despite a minor hamstring issue that briefly interrupted a previous streak, he's remained consistent and injury-free.

Race Director Experience

Andy detailed his involvement with the Fort Worth Marathon, which celebrated its 18th year in 2024. He initially volunteered for several years before stepping into the race director role in 2023. He shared insights about:

• The various race distances (marathon, half marathon, 20-miler, and relay)
• Challenges faced, including stolen course signs and portable toilet logistics
• Plans to expand to a two-day event with 5K and 10K races on Saturday and longer distances on Sunday

Hell's Half Acre Marathon

Andy also discussed his role as race director for the Hell's Half Acre Marathon, a night race in Trinity Park that evolved from the popular El Scorcho event. This unique race starts at night, with participants experiencing cooler temperatures as they run deeper into the night. He mentioned the race's history and the distinct atmosphere that makes it special.

World Marathon Majors

Andy revealed he's running two Abbott World Marathon Majors in 2025 - Tokyo in March and New York in November. Upon completion, he'll have finished five of the six major marathons.

Downhill Races

You both shared experiences about downhill races, including Revel races like Mount Charleston and Big Cottonwood, discussing the dramatic PRs these courses can produce and the intense muscle soreness that follows.

Pacing Experience

Andy discussed his extensive experience as a pacer with Beast Pacing, having helped many runners achieve their time goals at various events across DFW and beyond.

The conversation concluded with reflections on memorable running experiences, with Andy mentioning a 35-mile Dallas to Fort Worth adventure run and the satisfaction he gets from helping others achieve their running goals.

DFW Running Talk: Cal Nef Episode Overview

In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Cal Nef, an accomplished elite runner, coach, and race director based in Houston, Texas. The conversation explores Cal's multifaceted running career and his journey through various aspects of the running world.

Background and Running Career

Cal shares his lifelong journey with running, starting at age 4 in Louisiana before his family moved internationally for his father's oil industry career. These moves took him to places like Scotland, England, Thailand, Canada, and Australia, with running becoming his constant companion and defining characteristic. After competing at the collegiate level for the University of Little Rock and University of Houston, Cal took a break from running before rediscovering his passion through trail running.

Elite Running Accomplishments

As an elite athlete, Cal has impressive achievements including:

• Multiple Houston Marathon finishes (7 full marathons, 3 half marathons)
• Serving as an official pacer for elite women like Sarah Hall and Keira D'Amato
• Helping Keira D'Amato break the American marathon record (2:19)
• Winning both the Cowtown 50K and Dallas 50K
• Winning the Marine Corps Marathon
• Setting world records for running with strollers in the 10K, half-marathon, and marathon distances
• Competing at the prestigious Comrades Marathon in South Africa

Trail Racing Over Texas

A significant portion of the interview focuses on Cal's role as owner and race director of Trail Racing Over Texas (TROT). He explains how he acquired the company when it was about to shut down, driven by his passion to preserve the vibrant trail running community in the Houston area. Under his leadership, TROT hosts over 10 events annually, including signature races like:

• The Habanero 100 (a uniquely challenging race that begins at noon in the summer heat)
• San Felipe Shootout (where runners compete in 5K, 10K, and half marathon distances back-to-back)
• Brazos Bend 100 (a Western States qualifier)
• Big Dog's Backyard Ultra (modeled after Lazarus Lake's famous format)

Cal emphasizes how he strives to create unique race formats that challenge runners in different ways, moving beyond the standard "gun start, race to finish" model. He discusses the challenges of race directing, including logistics, safety protocols (drawing on his experience with Texas Search and Rescue), and balancing growth with maintaining quality experiences.

Coaching and Training Philosophy

Cal discusses his coaching business, Hard Loop Endurance, revealing that he had 50 athletes competing in the Houston Marathon. He explains his personal training approach, noting that despite being an elite runner, he's not a high-mileage athlete (typically running 30-50 miles weekly, rarely exceeding 100), though he coaches athletes across the spectrum, including some who regularly run 110-120 miles weekly.

Other Passions and Lifestyle

The interview also touches on Cal's other interests, particularly his passion for unpowered flight through hang gliding and paragliding. He lives in a fly-in community where his business operates from a hangar, and he and his wife are working toward their private pilot's licenses.

Cal also mentions:

• His podcast "The Neff Pace" that he hosts with his wife Rachel
• His volunteer work with Texas Search and Rescue
• Upcoming races including the Black Canyon 100K, where he's seeking a "golden ticket" to Western States

The episode provides a comprehensive look at Cal's diverse interests, accomplishments, and approach to running, coaching, and race directing, highlighting his unique position as someone who has succeeded at multiple levels of the running world while creating opportunities for others through his businesses and events.

DFW Running Talk Episode with Jennifer Pope

Episode Overview
This episode of DFW Running Talk features host Chris Detzel interviewing Jennifer Pope, an elite runner from the Dallas-Fort Worth area who has made a remarkable journey from recreational soccer player to Olympic Trials qualifier in a short time span.

Jennifer's Running Background
Jennifer reveals that, unlike many elite runners, she did not have a traditional competitive running background. While she ran cross country in high school, she admits she never took it seriously. Instead, she primarily played soccer from age four through adulthood, participating in recreational leagues in Michigan and continuing when she moved to Texas, playing indoor soccer in Richardson and outdoor soccer in Addison.

Pandemic Transformation
Jennifer's serious running journey began during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 when soccer fields closed. Initially running just to stay active during lockdown, she stumbled upon a virtual 5K challenge that sparked her competitive spirit. As races gradually reopened, she attended a Plano Pacers event where she met Maddie Stier, an accomplished runner who inspired her.

Marathon Journey
Jennifer found a men's sub-3 marathon training plan online and, despite initially struggling with the prescribed paces, committed to it. Her first serious marathon was the Irving Marathon in 2021, where she ran a 2:50. She then qualified for Boston and continued improving, running Indianapolis Marathon in 2022 where she missed the Olympic Trials qualifying time by just 15 seconds (despite winning the race in challenging weather conditions).

Just five weeks later, she maintained her fitness and ran the Houston Marathon in January, achieving a 2:36:20 personal best and securing her Olympic Trials qualifier.

Training Approach & Community
Jennifer credits much of her success to finding a running community. After initially running with the Plano Running Club, she joined a group called "Completely Sloth" who train together several times a week. She emphasizes how crucial the group has been for accountability, motivation, and pushing her pace during workouts.

Challenges & Injuries
In the lead-up to the Olympic Trials, Jennifer faced significant setbacks including plantar fasciitis and bilateral hamstring tendinopathy. Despite extensive treatments including shockwave therapy and PRP injections, she's still managing these issues. Though she ran the 2023 Trials with limited training, she's continuing to work through these challenges.

Current Status & Future Plans
At the time of recording, Jennifer was cautiously building toward another marathon, potentially the London Marathon (pending championship entry acceptance). She emphasizes keeping running enjoyable despite competitive goals, balancing serious training with maintaining a positive mindset.

Notable Achievement (Post-Recording)
As noted, Jennifer went on to win the Cowtown Half Marathon in 2025 with an impressive time of 1:18:00, further demonstrating her continued excellence despite the challenges mentioned in the interview.