Dev Interrupted – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Want to ship better software? Get in the fast lane.

This week, hosts Ben Lloyd Pearson and Andrew Ziegler open the episode with a discussion of some of the tech topics dominating the news cycle like Microsoft's restructuring to focus on AI, a potential TikTok ban in the U.S. and a status check on New Year's resolutions. 

Then, joined by Dan Lines, they shift their focus to the 2025 Engineering Benchmarks Report by LinearB. This in-depth conversation explores the crucial link between developer experience and productivity, the impact of project management hygiene on development, and new metrics like PR maturity and project traceability.

Within this data-driven discussion, uncover key insights on how smaller PRs boost velocity and quality, the connection between longer cycle times and increased change failure rates, and the ideal investment profiles for engineering teams.

Show Notes:

• Beyond the DORA Frameworks Workshop (Jan. 29, 30)
• 2025 Engineering Benchmarks
• Watch Rob Zuber (CircleCI) & Tara Hernandez (MongoDB) explore insights from the 2025 Engineering Benchmarks Report
• Follow Ben
• Follow Andrew

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Is your company relying on surveys alone to bridge the gap between developers and managers?  

In this episode of Dev Interrupted, host Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines, COO of LinearB, dive into the perceived misalignment between engineers and their leaders on improving developer experience. Together, they emphasize the importance of data-driven insights over relying solely on surveys, highlighting how quantifiable metrics can illuminate issues like technical debt and build times.  The conversation also touches on the power of setting clear, company-wide goals to boost developer experience and productivity.

Next, Conor Bronsdon, in his final episode as host, sits down with Andrew Boyagi, Atlassian's head of DevOps Evangelism. Andrew brings a wealth of knowledge on developer experience, emphasizing the need for transparency, the nuances of measuring productivity, and the crucial role of company culture in aligning development teams with business goals.

Show Notes:

• Beyond the DORA Frameworks Workshop (Jan. 29, 30)
• 2025 Engineering Benchmarks
• Follow Ben
• Follow Conor
• Follow Atlassian

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Everyone knows the era of growth at all costs is over, but where does that leave us? And specifically, where does that leave founders? The answer is straightforward: founders have to start thinking like business people. 

This week, Conor Bronsdon interviews Ashish Aggarwal, founder and CTO of Productive and an active investor in over 30 companies.

Ashish shares his insights on how startups are adapting to the new “efficient growth” environment, why this paradigm shift is an opportunity for founders, and how the pressures of efficiency have created incentives for companies to move towards geo-distributed teams instead of co-located teams.

Show Notes:

• Refactoring x Dev Interrupted Survey
• Ashish’s LinkedIn
• 2024 State of SaaS Consolidation Report

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Picture this: an auto manufacturer with no clue what parts are in its supply chain, where those parts come from and no ability to recall those parts if vulnerabilities are discovered.

That’s not a reality consumers would accept. So why do organizations (and manufacturers!) tolerate it when it comes to software? 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Brian Fox, co-founder & CTO, and Stephen Magill, VP of Product Innovation, join us to talk about Sonatype’s State of the Software Supply Chain Report. 

Listen as Brian and Stephen explain the ins and outs of open source risk management, how companies that aren’t open source maintainers can do a better job protecting themselves and why cybercrime is like “VC funds for the bad guys.” 

Show Notes
8th Annual State of the Software Supply Chain Report

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Sometimes among all the sprints,  the pressure to ship faster,  tools to measure lines of code written,  it seems like we as an industry forget a simple fact: developers are knowledge workers, not robots

To remind us what it means to be a human, we invited some of the most empathetic engineering leaders we know to Interact and asked them to sit on a panel together. The conversation that followed is one of the most insightful and relevant conversations we've heard all year. Whether you are an IC, manager or manager of managers, we promise this conversation will help you become a more empathetic leader and colleague. 

Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI; Jean Hsu, VP of Engineering at Range; and Lena Reinhard, an engineering leadership coach. 

Show Notes

• Watch all of Interact on the Dev Interrupted YouTube channel

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Dev Interrupted takes a detour to Vegas!

In a first for the show, we took the podcast on the road to attend the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas.

While at DOES, we had the pleasure of interviewing Gene Kim, famed researcher and author of "The Phoenix Project" and "Accelerate".

Also attending DOES were friends of the podcast Bryan and Dana Finster, whose presentation on the Rise and Fall of DevOps inspired us to invite them onto the pod.

Listen to this two-part episode as Gene breaks down all things DevOps past, present and future, while the Finsters present their case for platform teams, project ownership and how to win the trust that binds good dev teams. 

Show Notes

• Recap all of DevOps Enterprise Summit 2022, December 6th-8th

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Bad habits have a way of resurfacing during difficult times. Unfortunately for engineering teams everywhere, this is one of those times.

In this topical episode of Dev Interrupted, LinearB co-founders Dan Lines & Ori Keren discuss the current macroeconomic climate, its effect on engineering teams, and why individual metrics are - and should remain - a relic of days gone by.

Our heart goes out to anyone who has been affected by the layoffs across the tech industry. Please reach out to the Dev Interrupted community if there is any way we can help.  

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When your startup is struggling to find its product-market fit, security is the last thing on your mind - and according to security expert Matt Spitz, that’s perfectly fine!

Matt is Vanta's Head of Engineering and he joins this week's episode of Dev Interrupted to  explain everything you ever wanted to know about startups and security.

Matt debunks the real security risks we face (think S3 buckets, not nation states), how to create a company culture that embraces security and when your startup needs to start caring about all this stuff.

Show Notes

• Learn more about startup security on Vanta's blog

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It's no secret this has been a difficult year for many companies in tech. The truth is, it's easy to be a leader when times are good. It's less easy in the midst of a storm.

That's why we assembled a panel of some of the smartest engineering leaders we know at Interact to talk about the leadership principles that help guide an engineering organization no matter what is happening in the world.

Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Michael Stahnke, VP of Platform at CircleCI; Lewis Tuff, VP of Engineering at Blockchain.com; and Carolyn Vo, Partner & Head of Engineering at Oliver Wyman. 

Show Notes

• Watch all of Interact on the Dev Interrupted YouTube channel

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Live from Interact, we're bringing you an interview with our favorite CTO, Charity Majors.

Never one to be shy about speaking her mind, Charity is an outspoken advocate for devs everywhere - and this passion made her a fan favorite at Interact.

Listen as Charity discusses her career, why the hierarchy is bullshit (disclaimer: she likes to swear - we like that about her), and why platform engineering is the most exciting place to sit in computing today.

Show Notes

• Learn about the power of Continuous Merge
• Charity's blog
• Join the Dev Interrupted Discord
• Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.

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