Welcome to DejaVue, the Vue podcast you didn't know you needed until now! Join Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter on a thrilling journey through the world of Vue and Nuxt.
Get ready for weekly episodes packed with insights, updates, and deep dives into everything Vue-related. From component libraries to best practices, and beyond, they've got you covered.
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Was Nuxt just sold?! (with Daniel Roe and Sébastien Chopin)
Épisode 61
jeudi 10 juillet 2025 • Durée 30:46
In this special episode of DejaVue, Alexander and Michael are joined by Daniel Roe and Sébastien Chopin to discuss the recent acquisition of NuxtLabs by Vercel. Questions like "Was Nuxt just sold", "How much influence has Vercel", and "What is Vercel excepting from the deal" are answered. If you wonder what impact the deal has on Nuxt, you as a user and developer, as well as the open-source community, you should tune in!
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In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alexander look into the major release of Vite 7, including the move to ESM-only, dropping Node 18 support, and adopting the Baseline browser target. They also discuss the evolving Environment API, upcoming changes in Rolldown-Vite, new Vite dev tools, and more.
Enjoy the Episode!
Chapters
(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
(00:48) - Vite 7 without breaking changes
(01:53) - Node Version dropped
(03:13) - ESM-only and Module Formats
(09:04) - What does ECMA and GIF mean?
(10:51) - Browser target to Baseline Wide Available
Double Trouble: The Nuxt Surprise (with Daniel Roe)
Épisode 59
dimanche 15 juin 2025 • Durée 41:07
Big news in the Nuxt ecosystem. While you out there already know what has been announced - some of us didn't. Luckily, Daniel Roe, Head of the Nuxt team joins this DejaVue episode and discusses the highly anticipated "double trouble": Not one, but twomajor versions for Nuxt are on the horizon. After over a year of delays, Daniel reveals the strategic decision to release Nuxt 4 in less than a month from now, followed by Nuxt 5 which will include the long-awaited Nitro 3 integration and significant Vite improvements. The episode covers the smooth migration experience early adopters reported already, the philosophy behind careful breaking changes, and how the team plans to maintain a yearly major release cycle moving forward.
(09:28) - Early adopters of compatibilityVersion 4
(11:56) - Depending on other dependencies and versions bumps
(13:45) - Is bumping the minimum Node version a breaking change?
(16:33) - A Quick Nitro TL;DR
(20:46) - Nitro in other frameworks
(25:20) - Why Nuxt 4 now?
(28:41) - LTS support Plans
(29:53) - Nuxt Bridge
(31:46) - Release Dates and skipping Nuxt 4 altogether
(33:14) - We need Release names!
(35:53) - Release Dates for Nuxt 4 and 5
The History of Nuxt and NuxtLabs (with Sébastien Chopin)
Épisode 58
jeudi 5 juin 2025 • Durée 01:01:07
Join Alex and Michael with special guest Sébastien Chopin, creator of Nuxt.js and CEO of NuxtLabs, to learn more about the origins and evolution of the Vue-based meta framework. Sébastien shares valuable lessons from open source, how he came to create Nuxt.js in the first place and which challenges came with it.
In the second part of the episode, they cover Sébastien's company NuxtLabs - from its inception over to taking Venture Capital and products, such as NuxtHub or Nuxt UI Pro.
Eventually, the NuxtLabs CEO also outlines how they handle sponsorships of maintainers, and what the future holds for Nuxt and NuxtLabs.
(37:11) - Why going all in on Cloudflare for NuxtHub
Motion for Vue (with Matt Perry)
Épisode 57
jeudi 15 mai 2025 • Durée 01:03:21
In this episode of DejaVue, Michael and Alex chat with Matt Perry, the creator of Motion (formerly Framer Motion), about animations in web development. Matt talks about his journey from designing gaming magazines as a kid to becoming a full-time developer, sharing his experiences with ActionScript, jQuery, and how Motion was born. They discuss how simple and powerful Motion's API is, its ability to work with different frameworks, and how it stacks up against other animation libraries like GSAP and AnimeJS.
But the episode also covers a lot of open source aspects, such as the challenges of keeping Motion going! Matt explains how Motion+ funds the development of Motion with one-time payments and time-gated (then publicly available) content, to support the project.
Snapshot Testing and Beyond (with The Jared Wilcurt)
Épisode 56
mardi 22 avril 2025 • Durée 01:06:40
In this episode of DejaVue, Alex and Michael are joined by Jared Wilcurt, UI architect and open source contributor, to get knee-deep into the world of testing in Vue.js, especially Snapshot Testing.
Jared shares his journey from React frustration to Vue enthusiasm, and explains how he identified gaps in Vue's testing ecosystem that led to the creation of his Vue 3 Snapshot Serializer library. No matter if you are a testing novice, wondering why you should bother with tests at all, or an experienced developer looking to improve your snapshot testing workflow, this episode got something for you - from reducing test noise, improving readability, and gaining confidence in your Vue applications and components.
Discover how snapshot testing complements traditional assertion-based tests and why it might be the missing piece in your testing strategy.
In this episode of DejaVue, Alex sits down with James Garbutt, open source maintainer and lead of the e18e initiative. James shares his journey from writing web scrapers as a teenager to maintaining critical JavaScript libraries like parse5 or Chokidar and eventually co-creating the ecosystem performance initiative.
The conversation is then all around e18e, which aims to improve performance across the JavaScript ecosystem through three pillars:
Cleaning up dependency trees
Speeding up popular packages
Creating lighter alternatives to bloated libraries
James explains how the community-driven approach has produced impressive results all across the web development landscape.
Learn about real-world examples of performance improvements, including replacement packages like tinyglobby and nano-staged, and discover how to contribute to e18e even if you're new to open source. James shares also insights on balancing between backward compatibility and performance, bundling dependencies, and also shares future plans for e18e in 2025.
Open Source Sustainability (with Daniel Roe, Chad Whitacre & Rijk van Zanten)
Épisode 54
dimanche 6 avril 2025 • Durée 01:00:24
Join hosts Michael Thiessen and Alexander Lichter for a special episode of DejaVue - a fascinating panel discussion on open source sustainability with three open source enthusiasts:
Daniel Roe (Nuxt Team Lead),
Chad Whitacre (Head of Open Source at Sentry), and
Rijk van Zanten (CTO and co-founder of Directus).
The panelists dive deep into what sustainability truly means in open source and get deep into the weeds of different licensing models, debating whether open source functions as a gift economy, and discuss the challenges of project governance.
The panel also discusses important questions about leadership structures in open source projects, the role of companies in funding development, and practical ways everyone can contribute to making the ecosystem more sustainable - whether financially or through other meaningful contributions.
Nuxt 3.16 dropped and it's packed with goodies! In this episode, Alex and Michael break down all the cool stuff in this release that'll make your Nuxt development smoother.
They dive into the new command to initialize a Nuxt application, the performance-game-changing lazy hydration support that'll boost your app's performance, and named layer aliases (that you've been waiting for). Plus, huge performance improvements, better error messages with Nitro 2.11 and debugging improvements that'll save you hours of head-scratching.
But wait, there's more! The duo also geeks out over Nuxt UI v3, which (surprise!) now works with plain Vue.js too - not just Nuxt. Learn how it leverages Tailwind v4, introduces a sweet CSS variables-based design system, and builds on Reka UI primitives for better accessibility. And somehow, a discount code for Nuxt UI Pro* *cough DEJAVUE cough* gets snuck in there too!
Enjoy the episode!
Chapters
(00:00) - Intro
(00:54) - Nuxt 3.16 Feature Overview
(01:27) - A new way to initialize Nuxt projects
(07:06) - Lazy Hydration in Nuxt
(16:05) - Named Layer Aliases
(17:45) - Lines of Code vs. Complexity
(20:16) - What a new Nitro minor brings to the table
(21:33) - Fine-grained debugging options
(23:25) - Nuxt Devtools v2
(25:47) - Faster module resolution (and faster boot up time)
(27:39) - Using OXC to speed up component parsing
(28:58) - Benchmark performance improvements
(31:43) - Nuxt UI v3
(40:58) - Sneak peek at next weeks episode 👀
(41:17) - Suggest a new slogan!
Visualizing Data in Vue (with Dennis Adriaansen)
Épisode 52
vendredi 21 mars 2025 • Durée 01:03:14
In episode 52 of DejaVue (yes, it is a whole year), Dennis Adriaansen joins Michael and Alex to discuss data visualization in Vue.js. Dennis shares insights about building chart components, his experience with different charting libraries, and introduces his own Vue charting library. They explore topics like chart customization, performance considerations, and integrating charts into dashboards.
The conversation also gets into broader topics such as open source sustainability, UI libraries, and backend integrations with Nuxt.
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(41:50) - Vite Environment API
(45:34) - The difference between Nuxt and NuxtLabs
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(50:39) - Thoughts on other ways of monetizing Motion
(52:43) - Can AI replace animation libraries?
(57:41) - The difference between Motion and other libraries
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(25:31) - Snapshot Testing
(29:45) - Snapshot Updating Fatigue
(36:09) - Responsibilities & ROI of a Snapshot Test
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(02:10) - How did you get into programming?
(04:57) - What lead you to Vue.js
(06:40) - Not ending up in a framework bubble
(09:41) - Meta frameworks converging
(11:28) - What is e18e?
(15:40) - The purpose of e18e
(18:27) - How to participate?
(20:38) - Are there prerequisites?
(23:59) - Ripple effects from e18e improving the ecosystem
(26:36) - Helping other projects migrate
(30:27) - Considering backwards compatibility
(35:50) - Example for replacement packages
(37:56) - tinyglobby
(40:40) - Edge cases and modular architecture
(43:49) - Performance pattern and anti pattern
(45:32) - Bundling dependencies
(50:48) - What is planned for e18e in 2025?
(56:39) - How do you lead and structure the e18e initiative?
Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.
Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.
Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.
Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.
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