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Deep Transformation

Deep Transformation

Roger Walsh and John Dupuy

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Deep Transformation offers dialogues with cutting-edge thinkers, artists, contemplatives, and activists who combine big-picture, integrative perspectives with profound, contemplative depths. With these remarkable people, we explore the great questions of our time, such as how best to live, and how best to heal, learn, create, and contribute in our era of unprecedented challenges and opportunities. Visit our website at https://deeptransformation.io/ to learn more.
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Keith Martin-Smith (Part 1) – The Wonderful Ideals But Flawed Applications of DEI: Intolerant Tolerance, Undiverse Diversity, Unliberal Liberalism, and More

Épisode 145

jeudi 29 août 2024Durée 55:28

Ep. 145 (Part 1 of 3) | Award-winning author, Zen priest and teacher, Kung Fu master, and professional advisor and trainer, Keith Martin-Smith, took a good look at the diversity, equity, and inclusion movement when he began to notice the damage it was causing people he knew under the guise of progress, or equity. Putting his keen mind to the task, Keith identified seven key areas where the DEI movement goes markedly astray from the values it aspires to. Coming from an integral understanding, Keith does more than simply point out where the movement has backfired. We learn that postmodern thinking is how we became aware of the “subtle soup of racism [and bias] in the cultural field itself”—beyond the concrete, obvious social injustices that activists fought in the 20th century. This more subtle field of bias is responsible for the inequalities we see in society today, which is what the DEI movement would like to tear down. But the ways in which DEI acts to make this happen, ironically, are characterized by exactly the things that DEI is against: intolerance, inequity, undiversity, tribalism, and anti-liberalism.

In his wise, articulate, and gracious way, Keith makes sense of why the diversity, equity, and inclusion movement has become a political flashpoint, raising the hackles of not only rightwing conservatives but also liberal progressives. Sympathetic to the values of DEI, Keith is all about helping to create a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive movement. When asked how the values of DEI could be fulfilled to make it the harmonious, effective, correcting movement it aspires to be, Keith responded, “with conversations like this, for one thing,” adding, “we need to realize that everyone has a portion of truth—we just need to connect everyone’s portion of truth with their heart.” Recorded June 6, 2024.

“Everybody cares…they just care about different things. Consensus and change come from being willing to listen to what people care about and finding space to honor that.”

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Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1
  • Introducing award-winning author, professional advisor & trainer, martial arts master, Zen priest & teacher Keith Martin-Smith (01:12) 
  • How Keith came to articulate what has gone wrong with the diversity, equity & inclusion movement (01:49)
  • The divisiveness of DEI and the need to bring in an integral understanding (06:22)
  • The difference between concrete, overt injustices and systemic injustice (08:27)
  • The subtle soup of racism in the cultural field that we have become aware of in the postmodern period (11:19)
  • All the punches at DEI are being thrown from an early rational or prerational worldview (15:26)
  • What are the seven deadly sins of DEI? (18:15)
  • DEI’s simplistic view of privilege, considering race, sex & gender, but not class, education & family of origin (19:00)
  • What are healthy responses to having been given privilege (as opposed to shame and guilt)? (23:37)
  • DEI proponents lecturing us about privilege don’t talk about their own privilege (26:50)
  • The effect of neglecting class in DEI’s reductionist view of privilege (29:56)
  • The problematic (undiverse) way the DEI movement treats diversity (34:31)
  • Concrete racism versus subtle racism/microaggressions (37:49)
  • Because...

A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series (Dialogue 2, Part 2) – Exploring the Depths of the Soul: Bridging Ancient Wisdom & Modern Psychology Using the Practice of Inquiry

Épisode 144

jeudi 22 août 2024Durée 39:47

Ep. 144 (Part 2 of 2) | In the second A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series conversation, Hameed Ali describes how the practice of inquiry can aid us on our spiritual journey, illuminating our understanding of our personal experience and our soul. He uses the example of inquiring into a sense of worthlessness to illustrate what happens as we begin to investigate the terrain of our consciousness. There comes a point when the inquiry leads beyond where a psychologist would normally end—when it slips from psychological into spiritual inquiry. “If you stay with the wounding, something will emerge: a sense of inherent value. You recognize ‘I am presence’ and this presence has value—all the way to nondual presence and beyond.” 

In introducing us to the Diamond Approach’s inquiry technique, Hameed covers a rich array of topics: the dynamism of consciousness; the importance of scientific objectivity in our exploration of inner experience; modern psychology’s revelation of how our sense of self develops; the essential qualities of curiosity and love of truth; and how understanding the ways in which the past influences the present disentangles it. Hameed is a masterful teacher—with just a few words he can illuminate vast territories of spiritual landscape for the purpose of helping his students learn to live their lives from a deeper, liberated condition. Rather than aiming to transcend our experience, Hameed assures us there is a way through, an unraveling we can do, as we discover never-ending realizations about individual consciousness and the nature of reality. Recorded July 4, 2024.

“The soul is a living embodiment of the life force.” 

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Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2
  • Basic trust: fundamentally we are an indestructible nature, but our basic trust can get whittled away (00:50)
  • Feeling the love inherent to reality (05:27)
  • Marrying ancient knowledge of the soul with advancements in modern psychology (06:09) 
  • Psychology provides us with answers about how our sense of self develops but not about what gets structured—the soul (09:35)
  • Individual consciousness is impressionable, otherwise learning would not be possible (12:31)
  • The self is nothing but the soul structured through the ego stages of development (14:28)
  • Psychodynamics and the self-liberating quality of the soul (15:29)
  • We need our sense of self in order to survive—and in order to become become illuminated, we need a body (17:21)
  • To stay with the ego self is arrested development, but we can develop further to become conscious of consciousness itself (19:53)
  • We can understand the terrain of experience rather than simply transcend it—we can go through it, unravel it, and open up different dimensions of reality as we go (21:40)
  • As we inquire we go deeper, bringing liberation into ordinary life (24:58)
  • The emphasis in the East is on liberation—the emphasis in the West is on how to fulfill life (26:06)
  • What many nondual teachings don’t understand is the individual soul (27:14)
  • The enlightenment drive: motivation beyond ego (30:38)
  • Beyond the enlightenment drive: pure being coming through individual consciousness (34:45)

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Mark Fischler (Part 1) - Democracy in Decline? Making Sense of the Supreme Court, the Trump Trials, and Threats to Public Morality

Épisode 135

jeudi 20 juin 2024Durée 51:12

Ep. 135 (Part 1 of 2) | Criminal justice professor and constitutional law expert Mark Fischler does a brilliant job of deepening our understanding of the challenges facing our democracy, our legal system, and our public morality. How did the democratic process and the values it represents—equality and liberty for all—come to be teetering on the brink? Mark illuminates the fact that the Constitution is not a set-in-stone document, but eminently open to interpretation, and explains that its interpretation is a direct reflection of the worldviews of the Supreme Court justices. In fact, the whole process of democracy needs to be aligned with a certain level of development in order to deliver. Mark points out that democracy hasn’t served all of us, and urges us to explore who and in what ways it has failed, that we may work to correct its flaws and continue to uphold and expand the values foundational to democracy to include respecting and protecting the rights of all beings.

Mark contrasts the moral integrity of revered public figures such as Socrates and Dr. King, who honored the rule of law despite that it went against their own self interest, with the disregard for the law so prevalent among political figures today, and points out that democracy can be subverted not only by malicious intent, but also by misplaced idealism—when people feel that supporting a charismatic leader or ideology is more important than supporting the principles of democracy. With regard to the Trump trials, the question arises, is any human above the law? Mark also shares where he finds hope—in his own university students with their openness to a deeper ethical understanding and responsibility and willingness to undertake civic action. Mark urges all of us who care about democracy to become engaged now. His wise, integral, highly informed insights about the current state of the legal system and of democracy, here and around the world, are revelatory, alarming, and inspiring in turn. Recorded May 22, 2024.

“Democracy really only functions properly when there is a foundational rule of law.”

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Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1
  • Introducing criminal justice professor and integral expert on constitutional law, Mark Fischler (01:32)
  • The hush money trial: you can’t disengage the politics (03:46)
  • Is any human being above the rule of law? (06:16)
  • It was ethical Republicans that got Nixon to resign; now a cult-like status exists in the party (07:36)
  • How people like Supreme Court Justice Alito’s wife and Justice Thomas’ wife have bought into the Stop the Steal idea, supporting the idea that the 2020 election was false (10:15)
  • Impeachment is the most direct form of accountability in the Supreme Court (12:50)
  • Understanding the nature of the current Supreme Court and how the Constitution gets interpreted according to the justices’ worldviews (14:12)
  • The Citizens United case where the Supreme Court ruled to give corporations the right to freedom of speech (17:31)
  • The current Supreme Court is hostile to the Union movement, to regulation around land use, to green, pluralistic values—it’s all about protecting individual rights (20:13)
  • The Constitution is not the solid document we might think, but is very open to interpretation (23:35)
  • The Federalist Society and the rise of originalism (24:35)
  • The...

Miranda Macpherson - Opening to Grace: Welcoming the Gifts of Inspiration and Transformation

Épisode 45

jeudi 29 septembre 2022Durée 55:55

Ep. 45 | Miranda Macpherson, spiritual teacher, author, and leader of the Living Grace Global Sangha, received a life changing transmission of divine grace while meditating in a cave in India in 2005. Subsequently, she developed the practice of Ego Relaxation to guide others in becoming receptive to subtle forms of grace that bring the clarity we need to live the most noble and healing of lives. In this conversation, Miranda discusses questions such as “What is the cause of our being and all being? How do we recognize that grace is already our primordial ground? What limits our capacity to be here, as we are, in this moment?” And she describes how using inquiry aids us in forming a relationship with grace.

Miranda is a spirited, nondual, unabashedly feminine teacher who dares to use the word God. Hers is an inspirational path and teaching leading to the development of profound trust. Miranda describes how her own total trust developed through periods of undoing, sorting out, a period of relinquishment, and finally allowing the dissembling of all that was familiar. Not leading with our intellect is what we need to learn. As Miranda says, “What the world needs is more graceful human beings.” Recorded at the Science and Nonduality Conference, October 2019, with Dr. Roger Walsh, John Dupuy, and Douglas Prater. 

“Be nothing, do nothing. Get nothing, become nothing. Seek for nothing. Relinquish nothing. Be as you are. Rest in God.”

Note: This podcast was recorded live and includes, at times, some extraneous noises in the background. Please excuse them -- we felt the conversation was very valuable and well worth sharing with our audience. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)

Topics & Time Stamps
  • What is grace? The agency of our transformation (01:50)
  • The path of “gentle effort” vs ego effort (05:11)
  • Humbling our sense of being the “doer” and recognizing the cause of our being—and all being (06:05)
  • Using inquiry to form a relationship with grace: what is holding you now? (08:50)
  • The ground of being is more than emptiness; it’s full of life, nourishing and healing (10:42)
  • Recognizing the ground of grace is the beginning of ego relaxation (12:28)
  • Miranda’s ego relaxation teaching practices: holistic inquiry and meditation (13:06)
  • The value of human relationship for awakening (16:24)
  • Fear is a force we need to address if we want to deepen—both individual and cultural fear (17:55)
  • In the practice of ego relaxation, do nothing to fix or change yourself, but allow the mystical power of grace to do the transforming; all you need to do is stop concealing yourself (21:52)
  • Simply letting things be is effective because it brings to light that you are not the doer (24:32)
  • How to overcome the deeply ingrained message “life is not meant to be easy” (27:31)
  • Miranda’s transmission of ego relaxation in a cave in India and her following “period of undoing” (28:58)
  • Our egos are driven by an experience of lack—let’s relax into self-forgiveness and compassion (34:03)
  • What happened with Miranda when more ordinary awareness returned? (38:09)
  • The importance of including our animal humanity—the emotional, the frightened, the irrational and...

A.H. Almaas (Part 2) - Nonduality and Beyond: The Exhilarating Adventure of Discovering the Nature of Reality and How Awakenings Can Unfold Endlessly

Épisode 44

jeudi 22 septembre 2022Durée 43:31

Ep. 44 (Part 2 of 2) | A.H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), renowned author and co-creator of the Diamond Approach, a complete spiritual path that flows out of his direct personal experience and realization, informed by the great wisdom traditions and practices, describes here his own process of inquiry and some of what he has come to discover in his lifelong pursuit to understand the nature of reality and know the truth. 

Hameed tells us answers come in the form of experiences rather than words and that there is no end to what we can realize about our true nature and reality itself. He talks about experiencing the authentic presence of being; the dynamics of realization; the paradox of practice; the importance of curiosity; and the joy of discovery. What makes time possible and what makes timelessness possible? What happens when we die? Throughout the conversation, Hameed transmits a quiet exuberance, humor, profound wisdom, and deep peace. This is a remarkable, inspiring, sometimes astonishing dialogue that will illuminate and exhilarate your understanding of the nature of reality and our potential as human beings. Recorded August 10, 2022.

“Reality really has much more up its sleeve than any human being can imagine.”

(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)

Topics & Time Stamps - Part 2
  • On death: each of us has a particular consciousness that is undying; death is not the end, but how we live our life will influence how we die and afterwards (00:53)
  • Is an initial activation—a “close encounter of the third kind with true nature”—a requirement to enter the Ridhwan School? (07:49)
  • What is “runaway realization''? There’s no end to what you can realize about reality or yourself (09:18)
  • The importance of true curiosity (12:30)
  • The experience of pure, absolute time: what makes time possible and timelessness possible? An example of Hameed’s own inquiry process (13:29) 
  • Spiritual discourse and non-standard realization (15:57)
  • Becoming alive to the zen of ordinariness (20:02)
  • Hameed’s practice: continual inquiry and meditation (22:31)
  • Most of Hameed’s awakenings don’t happen in meditation (24:47)
  • The dynamic of realization: practice opens us to grace (25:56)
  • Opening to transmission (31:59)
  • A new kind of presence: non-standard presence is very important to opening to runaway realization (33:12)
  • In the depths of nondual realization something arises (36:51)

Resources & References - Part 2

A.H. Almaas (Part 1) - Nonduality and Beyond: The Exhilarating Adventure of Discovering the Nature of Reality and How Awakenings Can Unfold Endlessly

Épisode 43

jeudi 15 septembre 2022Durée 42:03

Ep. 43 (Part 1 of 2) | A.H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), renowned author and co-creator of the Diamond Approach, a complete spiritual path that flows out of his direct personal experience and realization, informed by the great wisdom traditions and practices, describes here his own process of inquiry and some of what he has come to discover in his lifelong pursuit to understand the nature of reality and know the truth. 

Hameed tells us answers come in the form of experiences rather than words and that there is no end to what we can realize about our true nature and reality itself. He talks about experiencing the authentic presence of being; the dynamics of realization; the paradox of practice; the importance of curiosity; and the joy of discovery. What makes time possible and what makes timelessness possible? What happens when we die? Throughout the conversation, Hameed transmits a quiet exuberance, humor, profound wisdom, and deep peace. This is a remarkable, inspiring, sometimes astonishing dialogue that will illuminate and exhilarate your understanding of the nature of reality and our potential as human beings. Recorded August 10, 2022.

“Reality really has much more up its sleeve than any human being can imagine.”

(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)

Topics & Time Stamps - Part 1
  • Roger introduces Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) and the Diamond Approach (01:09)
  • The practice of direct inquiry into the fundamental nature of reality: the answers come in experiences rather than words (05:10)
  • Trusting reality to take us to what is good for us; reality is self revealing (08:14)
  • The “paradox of practice”: recognizing our inherent helplessness and hopelessness (10:19) 
  • Hameed’s initial opening: recognizing the authentic presence of being (13:06)
  • Each awakening has a particular view: nonduality and beyond (15:09)
  • Holding on to a view becomes a delusion, regardless of the realization (18:51)
  • The “view of totality”: a metaperspective allowing for endless realizations and openings and appreciation of the boundless creativity of the universe (21:37)
  • Many teachings are working towards liberation and freedom from suffering, but Hameed “wanted to understand reality and to know the truth” (25:22)
  • Enlightenment itself evolves, it keeps moving (28:33)
  • The dichotomy between spiritual and material is a construct (35:10)
  • Discovery is part of life, part of realization (37:18)
  • The completion of realization is going out in the world, learning how to live it (39:04)

Resources & References - Part 1

Beena Sharma (Part 3) - Vertical Development's Many Gifts: How Continuous Adult Development Becomes Possible, the Potentials It Unlocks, and How Understanding It Makes New Sense of Our World and Our Selves

Épisode 42

jeudi 8 septembre 2022Durée 46:44

Ep. 43 (Part 3 of 3) | Beena Sharma, president of the Vertical Development Academy (VeDA), gives a beautifully cogent explanation of the 8-stage, full spectrum model of adult psychological development, Vertical Development, illuminating us not only to the characteristics of each stage of development, but the implications and ramifications of each stage, the process of human development as a whole, and how this model can help us face our current metacrisis. Beena describes how “each stage is a way of seeing the world and oneself, a constellation of our beliefs and assumptions,” and we discover that our development takes form in patterns of evolving worldviews, a progression of capacities with which we make sense of the world.

On an individual level, Beena asks, “Where is your foot nailed to the floor? Where are parts of you still ahead of you? How can this framework help you make a shift?” And collectively, “What does it mean for the human being to evolve? What makes us think humans at this time are at the end of the evolutionary ladder?” Vertical development focuses on the evolving ego, and interestingly, takes us to the stage where we realize the ego itself is only a construct—and beyond. As well as a brilliant unpacking of the vertical development model, this is a profound, warm-hearted conversation, about human evolution and possibility, the dance of the dual and the nondual, the infinitude of the psyche, and what it means to come home to oneself. Recorded July 13, 2022.

"Everything is a dance of the dual and the nondual."

(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)

Topics & Time Stamps - Part 3
  • Keeping the question in mind: “Is this framework getting in the way of me connecting with the person in front of me? (02:54)
  • What light does this model of adult development shed on religions and spiritual leaders? (04:33)
  • The core of Integral yoga—integrating the spiritual and the material (09:00)
  • Everything is a dance of the dual and the nondual; either/or thinking manifests all the way up (09:59)
  • What are Beena’s personal practices to stay sane in our confounding world today? (11:08)
  • Implications for our metacrisis: who are the players who have power? (14:50)
  • Solutions come from within small groups who can collaborate (17:17)
  • Paul Hawken, climate change, and the philosophy of regeneration (18:38)
  • What does it mean to be “life minded?” (19:49)
  • How the state of the world, the current metacrisis, is a direct reflection of our individual and collective consciousness (20:16)
  • Corporate investment in leadership is a $161 billion dollar annual industry; leadership design is key (23:48)
  • Central polarity in Beena’s life: Am I doing? Or am I being done? (31:16)
  • How can transformative practices be scaled? Cultivating people who are both wise and politically involved (32:34)
  • The deliberately developmental organization—and the deliberately developmental civilization (34:42)
  • How do we make developmental programs more effective? (35:30)
  • Harvesting technology for good: a design issue and an issue of expanding the designers’ abilities (36:46)
  • Encouraging people to grow; 50-70% of people are at the conventional stages (37:32)
  • Recognizing the war within...

Beena Sharma (Part 2) - Vertical Development's Many Gifts: How Continuous Adult Development Becomes Possible, the Potentials It Unlocks, and How Understanding It Makes New Sense of Our World and Our Selves

Épisode 41

jeudi 1 septembre 2022Durée 55:11

Ep. 41 (Part 2 of 3) | Beena Sharma, president of the Vertical Development Academy (VeDA), gives a beautifully cogent explanation of the 8-stage, full spectrum model of adult psychological development, Vertical Development, illuminating us not only to the characteristics of each stage of development, but the implications and ramifications of each stage, the process of human development as a whole, and how this model can help us face our current metacrisis. Beena describes how “each stage is a way of seeing the world and oneself, a constellation of our beliefs and assumptions,” and we discover that our development takes form in patterns of evolving worldviews, a progression of capacities with which we make sense of the world.

On an individual level, Beena asks, “Where is your foot nailed to the floor? Where are parts of you still ahead of you? How can this framework help you make a shift?” And collectively, “What does it mean for the human being to evolve? What makes us think humans at this time are at the end of the evolutionary ladder?” Vertical development focuses on the evolving ego, and interestingly, takes us to the stage where we realize the ego itself is only a construct—and beyond. As well as a brilliant unpacking of the vertical development model, this is a profound, warm-hearted conversation, about human evolution and possibility, the dance of the dual and the nondual, the infinitude of the psyche, and what it means to come home to oneself. Recorded July 13, 2022.

“The earlier the stage, the greater the gift; the later the stage, the greater the promise.”

(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)

Topics & Time Stamps - Part 2
  • In this framework, an arc represents the ego’s process of development, with the self-determining stage being the top of the arc (01:38)
  • Self-questioning stage: you realize you are not as independent as you thought—you are conditioned, shaped, and molded by your context (02:30)
  • Resolution of the problems in the previous stage come in the new stage (06:41)
  • The biggest shift is between the self-determining self and the self-authoring self—and Integral Theory’s mean green meme (07:14)
  • Self-actualizing stage, where you realize it’s both all relative and there are also some absolutes, and systems thinking comes online internally and externally (10:37)
  • Complexity thinking skills can be taught and learned (13:56)
  • Self-actualizing stage continued: looking for and integrating higher wisdom, for “and” as well as either/or thinking (18:45)
  • The shadow of the self-actualizing stage (22:11)
  • Construct-aware stage: seeing that all the ideas you have are only constructs, abstractions, there is no reality “out there;” the ego itself begins to see it’s only a construct (23:41)
  • This stage illuminates 3 things: existentialism, the wisdom traditions’ concept of emptiness and liberation, and the postmodern stage of deconstructionism (28:47)
  • The Hindu god Shiva, half masculine/half feminine, is personified yin/yang, where all opposites are integrated, the potential of our human form to be in harmony with both emptiness and form (37:33)
  • Transcendent or unitive stage: falling into no boundaries, falling into the now, recognizing we are all one (39:04)
  • This particular adult development framework bridges psychological development with spiritual development, where...

Beena Sharma (Part 1) - Vertical Development's Many Gifts: How Continuous Adult Development Becomes Possible, the Potentials It Unlocks, and How Understanding It Makes New Sense of Our World and Our Selves

Épisode 40

jeudi 25 août 2022Durée 57:52

Ep. 40 (Part 1 of 3) | Beena Sharma, president of the Vertical Development Academy (VeDA), gives a beautifully cogent explanation of the 8-stage, full spectrum model of adult psychological development, Vertical Development, illuminating us not only to the characteristics of each stage of development, but the implications and ramifications of each stage, the process of human development as a whole, and how this model can help us face our current metacrisis. Beena describes how “each stage is a way of seeing the world and oneself, a constellation of our beliefs and assumptions,” and we discover that our development takes form in patterns of evolving worldviews, a progression of capacities with which we make sense of the world.

On an individual level, Beena asks, “Where is your foot nailed to the floor? Where are parts of you still ahead of you? How can this framework help you make a shift?” And collectively, “What does it mean for the human being to evolve? What makes us think humans at this time are at the end of the evolutionary ladder?” Vertical development focuses on the evolving ego, and interestingly, takes us to the stage where we realize the ego itself is only a construct—and beyond. As well as a brilliant unpacking of the vertical development model, this is a profound, warm-hearted conversation, about human evolution and possibility, the dance of the dual and the nondual, the infinitude of the psyche, and what it means to come home to oneself. Recorded July 13, 2022.

“The earlier the stage, the greater the gift; the later the stage, the greater the promise.”

(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)

Topics & Time Stamps - Part 1
  • Introducing teacher and developmental coach Beena Sharma (01:45)
  • The most exciting discovery in psychology is that psychological development and maturity can continue far beyond our 20s, and beyond our conception of “normality” (02:51)
  • We are being evolved; we are transitional beings. Nature’s secret is the evolutionary process (05:15)
  • Exploring human development and the farther reaches of human possibilities: what does it mean for adults to mature? (06:52)
  • Jane Loevinger’s research showed patterns of evolving worldviews, a progression of capacities to make sense of the world, the trajectory revealed through the stories people tell (11:12)
  • Creating space for the process of development, i.e. not using words like higher and lower, saying instead earlier and later (15:26)
  • Maturity is coming to new understandings about what is real, giving up our assumptions, subject becomes object (18:58)
  • Stages of development is a psychoactive model: just understanding that further development is possible helps us grow into our potentials (21:00)
  • Using this framework in an ethical way: be careful not to use it in a reductionist way and label people as inferior; hold it lightly, the stages are idealizations (23:35)
  • What happens over the course of development? How do we get there? Vertical development is an outcome rather than a goal (27:29)
  • Self-centric stage: self-preservation and survival (29:32)
  • Group-centric: the “socialized” stage, where you want to fit in and belong (32:22)
  • Skill-centric stage: my identity is defined by what I do, not what I am (35:25)
  • The triumph of stepping into the next worldview, the next stage...

Andrew Holecek (Part 3) - The Remarkable Practice of Dream Yoga: How Lucid Dreaming Makes Sleep Endlessly Fascinating and Leads to Lucid Living (and Lucid Dying)

Épisode 39

jeudi 18 août 2022Durée 46:13

Ep. 39 (Part 3 of 3) | Lucid dreaming expert, author, “curiouist,” and integralist Andrew Holecek explains how lucid dreaming opens the door to a greatly expanded understanding of our minds, our perception of reality, and human potential altogether. If we consciously explore our night lives practicing dream yoga, we can learn how to discard our habits, purify our karma, and discover beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are co-creators of our experience. What we do in dream yoga is not limited to nighttime action; it weaves back into our daytime lives, and ultimately our experience of dying.

Andrew describes how dreams are a powerful way to discover emptiness and openness, and fall into reality—like falling into love—our primordial contraction cast away. Besides being a life-changing discourse on the incredible potential of dream yoga, Andrew Holecek’s cheerful, well-informed, easy way of talking and teaching about lucid dreaming—relating it also to the wisdom traditions, our sense of identity, and human evolution—makes this a real pleasure to listen to. Recorded on April 13, 2022.

“Lucid dreaming is metacognitive dreaming: the next iteration of human evolution.”

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Topics & Time Stamps - Part 3
  • How can one begin? First, realize the potentiality of lucid dreaming and become an oneironaut (01:40)
  • The importance of intentionality, and, installing pop-ups in your unconscious mind (04:19)
  • Meditation practice is a super technique to help attain lucidity at night (and in the daytime) (07:18)
  • How you can purify your karma and habits in your dreams (09:51)
  • Transforming the mother of all our habits: reification (12:40)
  • Purifying habits by night purifies habits by day (14:44)
  • His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s teaching on dream yoga (19:09)
  • Dream yoga is a powerful way to discover emptiness, emptiness = openness = love; meditation habituates us to openness, and when falling into reality, the primordial contraction is removed (22:00)
  • How the self sense comes undone when we fall asleep, a concordant experience with dying (26:11)
  • Andrew leads a short (game changing) dream yoga practice: 3-fold impurity—and, where is the dreamer? (29:55)

Resources & References - Part 3

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