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De Donkere Kamer (English)

Kaat Celis

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De Donkere Kamer is the podcast for photographers who want to grow, behind the camera and in their business. Twice a week, host and photographer Kaat Celis shares a new episode: one solo conversation with her own reflections on creativity and craft, and one in-depth interview with respected names in international photography, including Anton Corbijn, Christopher Anderson, David Campany, and Harry Gruyaert. Together, these conversations explore what it takes to keep growing as a photographer, creatively and in business. New episodes every week. donkerekamer.com

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#59 - Why that restlessness during your holiday has nothing to do with summer

jeudi 20 août 2026 • Durée 35:09

Do you feel restless the moment you go on holiday, while your business simply quiets down? In this solo episode, Kaat walks you through the difference between taking rest and actually experiencing it, and explains why a summer income gap is rarely a coincidence. She shares how she finds rest herself, not by sitting still, but by staying in motion, why the classic work-life balance doesn't work for her, and which questions you can ask yourself to figure out what your ideal holiday actually looks like.

From there, she dives into revenue planning: how to calculate in advance what buffer you need for your holiday weeks, how to make your photography practice scalable, and why entrepreneurship runs in seasons. She closes with a personal message about belief: what you believe about yourself and your craft eventually becomes your reality.

An episode for every photographer who wants more rest this summer, and no more surprise income gaps next year.

What you'll learn in this episode

What rest means to Kaat personally, and why she doesn't believe in a classic work-life balance
Which questions you can ask yourself to figure out what your ideal holiday looks like
How to build a revenue plan so holiday weeks stop causing panic
The difference between an action plan and loose actions like "posting more on Instagram"
How to make your photography practice scalable through recurring revenue
Why your beliefs help shape what you actually achieve in your business

The Daily Frame – Kaat's summer podcast series, 28 days with 21 short episodes, made to keep photographers moving and creative throughout the summer. €10. Link in the show notes.

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#58 - From Magnum Photos to the Banlieue: William Keo on building bridges through photography

mardi 18 août 2026 • Durée 50:36

Recorded live at Les Rencontres d'Arles, this episode brings you into conversation with World Press Photo winner William Keo, a French photographer born into a family of Cambodian refugees. His work has taken him from NGO assignments in a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon and the Syrian refugee crisis, to conflict zones in Iraq, Syria, Ukraine and Israel/Palestine, and eventually into Magnum Photos, where he was represented from 2021 to 2024. William talks openly about being an introvert in an industry that rewards extroversion, about the years he spent testing his own limits as a young photojournalist, and about the project closest to his heart: Extra Muros, a deeply personal document of the French banlieue where he grew up. For this project, he received this year's World Press Photo Award. Together, Kaat and William talk about resilience, why photographers are terrible at editing their own work, why he believes a photo book outlasts everything else, and what it takes to build bridges between your images and the people who will never walk into a gallery.

What you'll learn in this episode

How William turned a low social battery and years of shyness into a way of connecting quickly and honestly with the people he photographs.
Why he believes photographers are among the worst editors of their own work, and how an outside eye (Peter van Agtmael among others) reshaped the edit of his portfolio.
What three years inside Magnum Photos taught him about identity as a photographer, and why he chose not to pursue full membership.
How Extra Muros grew from small chapters shot among friends and neighbours into a World Press Photo-winning body of work about the French banlieue.
Why he's convinced a photo book, not an exhibition or a magazine cover, is what actually resists through time.

About the guest

William Keo (b. 1996, Paris) is a French photographer born into a family of Cambodian refugees. His work explores migration, social exclusion and intercommunity intolerance. He began his career working for NGOs, covering the Syrian refugee crisis, the conflict in Darfur, migration in Europe and the Rohingya humanitarian crisis, before turning to the cycles of violence following the fall of ISIS in Iraq and Syria, and international news including the war in Ukraine and the conflict in Israel and Palestine. He was represented by Magnum Photos from 2021 to 2024. His work has been published in The New York Times, National Geographic, Le Monde, Libération, Vogue and New York Magazine. For his ongoing personal project Extra Muros, documenting the lives of marginalised descendants of post-colonial immigrants in the French banlieue, he received a World Press Photo Award this year.

#6 - Jonas Bendiksen (Magnum Photos) on AI, fake news and the Book of Veles

dimanche 1 septembre 2024 • Durée 52:13

In 2021, Magnum photographer Jonas Bendiksen published a photo book that looked in every way like classic photojournalism. He waited for someone to notice that something was off. That moment never came. Not a single critical comment, not even from his own colleagues at Magnum. The Book of Veles tells the story of a Macedonian town that made money from fake news during the 2016 US election, but the people in the photos didn't exist. They were computer-generated. Jonas kept the hoax going for six months and eventually had to create a fake profile himself just to set his own unmasking in motion.

In this conversation we talk about how Jonas grew up in Tønsberg, why he joined Magnum Photos in 2004, and why he moved his family from Manhattan to a small community in Norway to protect his creative process. We also talk about the panic behind The Book of Veles, why he refuses to keep working in the AI space even though it would be the smart commercial move, and what he thinks photography can offer that AI cannot replace.

In this episode:

Why Jonas made a fully fictional photo book with AI-generated images and let his own peers believe it was real journalism
How he had to plant a fake profile to force his own hoax into the open
Why he believes photography's problems started long before AI, and what he means by "we photographers have always been the biggest machine learning system of them all"
Why he moved his family from Manhattan to a small village in Norway
Why fixing his sailboat means just as much to him as taking pictures

About Jonas Bendiksen Jonas Bendiksen began his career at nineteen as an intern at Magnum Photos in London, before leaving for Russia to photograph the fringes of the former Soviet Union. He joined Magnum Photos in 2004 and has worked for Geo, Newsweek, Vanity Fair and National Geographic. With The Book of Veles he created one of the most talked-about experiments at the intersection of photography and AI. He lives in Norway with his family, splitting his time between commissions, personal projects and his sailboat.

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#5 - Lee-Ann Olwage on documentary photography, dementia in Africa and World Press Photo

vendredi 31 mai 2024 • Durée 53:09

My guest today just won World Press Photo Story of the Year for Valim-babena, her project about dementia in Madagascar made for GEO Magazine. Lee-Ann Olwage is a South African documentary and portrait photographer whose work centers on identity, collaboration and celebration, and in this conversation she takes us into the four years and five reporting trips it took to find a way to tell this story with tenderness instead of shock.

What you'll learn in this episode

Why Lee-Ann decided never to take the most shocking image she could have made, and what that reveals about how she approaches a story.
How The Big Forget came to be, her long-term project on dementia across different African communities, and why so many local languages have no word for the disease.
What changed for her when her own father was diagnosed with dementia, just days before her reporting trip to Madagascar.
Why she calls herself lucky, while also having stood outside a prison for six months trying to get access to a story.
How nine years of working as a set decorator on film sets shaped her visual style as a documentary photographer.
Her advice to young photographers: build your own visual voice, expect a lot of no's, and find other work that buys you the freedom to make what you love

About the guest

Lee-Ann Olwage is a documentary and portrait photographer from South Africa, born in Durban in 1986. She won World Press Photo Story of the Year 2025 with Valim-babena, and previously won World Press Photo Awards in 2020 and 2023. She is a member of Native Women Photograph and African Women in Photography, and her work has appeared in major international newspapers and magazines. Her work centers on identity, collaboration and celebration, using photography as a form of co-creation.

This episode is brought to you by Cameranu. They understand better than anyone that as a photographer you need more than creativity, you also need the right tools, whether that's a new lens or a camera you can rely on during a client shoot. Their specialists think along with you and give honest advice. Listeners of De Donkere Kamer get 10% off their next purchase with code at .

#4 - Fiona Shields (The Guardian): on trust, AI and choosing the images that matter

lundi 1 avril 2024 • Durée 52:27

In this episode Kaat sits down with Fiona Shields, Head of Photography for The Guardian and The Observer, recorded in Amsterdam while Fiona was chairing the World Press Photo jury. Fiona has led the photo desk at The Guardian for 25 years, and she takes us through what that job actually looks like day to day: running a global team publishing 24/7, staying close to photo editing herself a few days a week, and making fast calls on images that reach millions of readers.

The conversation covers AI and the trust problem it creates for photojournalism, why The Guardian now works with local photographers instead of flying someone in to parachute into a story, what a busy photo editor needs from your pitch (send a PDF, not a WeTransfer link), and how Fiona deals with the emotional weight of covering conflict week after week. She also shares how she landed in photography almost by accident, after a teacher pushed her toward a journalism course, and why she still believes a single photograph can do something a video can't.

What you'll learn in this episode

What it takes to lead a photo desk that publishes across print and web, 24 hours a day
How AI is changing trust in photojournalism, and how The Guardian is thinking about verification
Why local photographers now get picked over parachuting an outsider into a story
How to pitch a busy photo editor so your email actually gets opened
How Fiona processes the emotional weight of editing images from Gaza, Ukraine and other conflicts, without losing the ability to do the job

About the guest

-Fiona Shields is Head of Photography for The Guardian and The Observer. She grew up in Scotland, trained as a journalist in London and discovered early on that picture editing, not writing, was where she belonged. She has spent 25 years at The Guardian, and in 2024 she chaired the international jury of the World Press Photo Contest in Amsterdam. Along the way she has overseen the paper's coverage of 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, COVID-19, and the wars in Ukraine and Gaza.

#3 - Edward Burtynsky on photographing the cost of progress

vendredi 1 mars 2024 • Durée 01:00:04

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In this episode Kaat sits down with Canadian photographer Edward Burtynsky in London, right after the opening of his biggest retrospective ever at the Saatchi Gallery. They talk about the furnace room where his father taught him to develop his first roll of film, the helicopter doors he still flies with off, and the four decades he has spent photographing what industry does to the natural world. Edward also opens up about running his own print lab since 1985, about carrying both the artist and the entrepreneur in himself, and about why he still believes in hope as a form of action.

This episode is sponsored by Cameranu. As a photographer you need more than creativity, you also need the right equipment, and Camera Nu's specialists give honest, personal advice, whether you're looking for a new lens or a camera you can rely on during a client shoot. Use code DDK10 at cameranu.be for 10% off your next purchase.

What you'll learn in this episode

How Edward got his first camera and darkroom for 25 dollars from a widow in St. Catharines, and what his very first roll of film taught him about the way he still shoots today.
Why he decided as early as 1983 to dedicate his career to the relationship between humans and nature, long before climate change became a mainstream topic.
How he builds his large murals today, locking a drone into a fixed position and stitching together dozens of high resolution frames.
Why he has run his own print lab since 1985, and what that taught him about running a business.
How he balances being an artist with leading a team of production staff and curators, and a studio that ships exhibitions around the world.

Halfway through, Kaat shares the five things the top photographers she works with, through this podcast, her masterclasses and her 1:1 mentoring, all do consistently, and how you can apply them yourself. It's free, sign up here.

#2 Joumana El Zein Khoury on rebalancing World Press Photo, AI, and why culture is a basic need

vendredi 23 février 2024 • Durée 56:29

Joumana El Zein Khoury has spent her career building bridges between culture under pressure and the people who need to see it. Born in Beirut in 1975 and now based in the Netherlands, she previously led the Prince Claus Fund and worked with the Arab Image Foundation in Beirut before becoming executive director of the World Press Photo Foundation in 2021, right in the middle of the pandemic.

In this episode, Joumana talks about:

Why she calls herself a "democratic dictator," and how she led World Press Photo through a full organizational transition
Why the foundation introduced selection criteria requiring at least one local and one female or non-binary winner per region, and what actually changed as a result
How World Press Photo deals with AI-generated and AI-edited images in a photojournalism contest, and where it draws the line
Why she believes culture is as basic a human need as food or shelter, and what that means for displaced and refugee communities
What it's like to look at thousands of the world's most difficult images every year, and how she finds her own balance
Why the World Press Photo archive, turning 70 next year, might be her biggest personal project yet

This episode is a look inside one of the most influential organizations in photojournalism, and the woman rethinking whose stories get told, and how. You can find more of World Press Photo's work, exhibitions and archive at worldpressphoto.org.

This episode of De Donkere Kamer podcast is proudly supported by Cameranu, specialist in cameras, lenses and photography gear.

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#1 Gaël Turine on photographing climate change, addiction in America, and staying loyal to slow storytelling

lundi 18 décembre 2023 • Durée 01:00:52

My guest today is Belgian documentary photographer and photojournalist Gaël Turine. Raised in a family of documentary filmmakers, he found his calling early: a childhood year spent on a small island in the Indian Ocean planted a lifelong need to travel, observe, and tell stories through images. Decades later, that same instinct led him to turn his camera on his own country, walking the flooded river valleys of Wallonia for two years to document the long, slow aftermath of a climate disaster most of the world had already stopped watching.

We talk about why he chose black and white panoramic landscapes over the human portraits he's known for, what it means to fund and shape a personal project from scratch, the ephemeral but intense encounters he has with the people he photographs, and why he still doesn't fully trust short-form video and algorithms as a home for serious documentary work. We also get into his television work for Arte, his dream project on cooperatives around the world, and the farmhouse in the Ardennes he escapes to when the work gets too heavy.

This episode is proudly supported by Cameranu, my partner for camera gear in Belgium and the Netherlands. It's where I send the photographers I work with when they're looking for honest advice and equipment that can actually keep up with serious work. As a listener of this show, you get 10% off with code [CODE].

In this episode you'll learn:

Why Gaël chose black-and-white panoramic landscapes instead of portraits to document the Wallonia floods
How he secured government funding for a two-year personal project, and what he offered in return
What "activism through documentary" looks like when the story is about your own country
Why he still doesn't trust algorithms and short-form video as a home for serious photojournalism
How his farmhouse in the Ardennes shapes both his creative process and his ability to disconnect

About the guest:
Gaël Turine is a Belgian documentary photographer and photojournalist based in Brussels. Raised by two documentary-making parents, he has spent 25 years covering stories for international magazines, teaches documentary journalism at the Université libre de Bruxelles, and produces documentaries for Arte. His long-term project on the Wallonia floods, Mémoire des Rivières, was exhibited at the Musée de la Photographie in Charleroi.

Welcome to De Donkere Kamer podcast!

vendredi 1 décembre 2023 • Durée 01:28

Welcome to De Donkere Kamer. My name is Kaat Celis, I'm a photographer and entrepreneur myself, and this is the podcast for photographers who want to go further, creatively and in business.

Twice a week, I bring you two new episodes: one solo conversation where I share my own reflections on creativity, on building a photography practice, and on what it really takes to keep choosing this path, and one in-depth interview with some of the most respected names in international photography, from Anton Corbijn to Christopher Anderson to David Campany to Nadav Kander.

This is the new English home for those conversations, and you don't have to wait for episode one. There's already a full archive waiting for you, years of interviews with some of the biggest names in photography, so start wherever speaks to you most.

If you're a photographer who wants to grow, both behind the camera and in your business, you're in the right place. Subscribe, and I'll see you in the next episode

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#57 - What a week at the end of the world does to your photography, your business and the way you see

jeudi 13 août 2026 • Durée 32:34

What happens when a photographer who's never taught before finally says yes? In this episode, Kaat takes you to Estancia El Condor, 40,000 hectares of untouched land at the foot of the Andes, where in February 2027 she's hosting, together with Dutch photographer Bastiaan Woudt, his very first workshop. Eight spots, one estancia, no phone signal, and a photographer whose work hangs in the Rijksmuseum and the Getty Museum.

Kaat talks about the two trips she's already made to this place herself, about the condors with a four-meter wingspan, about why it took her years to convince Bastiaan, and about what happens to the way you see when you're cut off from the world for a week. She also shares what this means for your photography at a time when more images are generated than could ever actually be photographed.

An episode for anyone wondering if this is the year to go somewhere almost nobody goes.

Bastiaan Woudt has never taught a workshop before. Until now. In this episode, Kaat talks about the very first workshop by this renowned black-and-white photographer, held at an estancia in Patagonia so remote there's no phone signal. Eight spots, a week without distraction, and everything that does to your photography and the way you see.

This episode is a personal update on the brand-new photography workshop to Argentine Patagonia that Kaat is hosting in February 2027, together with photographer Bastiaan Woudt. It's the first time Bastiaan has ever opened up his process to a group, and Kaat explains why this place, this photographer, and this moment come together.

Why Bastiaan Woudt said no for years, and what finally changed his mind.
What makes Estancia El Condor so special: 40,000 hectares, condors with a four-meter wingspan, and zero phone signal.
How a week without distraction changes your photography and the way you see.
What to actually expect from the workshop, from the daily reviews to the day on horseback.
How admission works, what it costs, and how to apply.

Bastiaan Woudt is a self-taught Dutch photographer known for his distinctive black-and-white portraits. He shoots for, among others, British Vogue and Harper's Bazaar, and his work is held in the collections of the Rijksmuseum and the J. Paul Getty Museum. You can hear more about him and how he works in episode #248 of the De Donkere Kamer Podcast (Dutch-language).

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