疲惫娇娃 CyberPink – Détails, épisodes et analyse

【聊了什么The What】 纠结了一个夏天，我们还是决定聊一聊Drake和Kendrick的Rap Beef（说唱对决）。对于在国内长大的小杨和一芳来说，来到美国之后面对着从“从未考虑过种族“到迷迷糊糊开始思考自己身份的漫长成长过程。而这个成长过程中很重要的文本就是说唱音乐——更具体地说，是Kendrick Lamar的音乐。 这场Rap Beef不仅仅是两个天才创作者之间争夺影响力的创作对决，还掀起了遍布各个角落的涉及嘻哈文化、性别、种族、艺术创作与商业成功之间的大讨论。在这场rap battle中，多首音乐被制作出来，随着battle的火力程度升级，家暴、恋童等指控成为歌词里面乱飞的字母武器。 这些男性rappers们在个人恩怨中提出的未经证实的指控，是在保护真实的女性，还是名人男性之间相互利用对方对于失去名利的恐惧？这些看似正义的歌词其实与受伤的女性无关？嘻哈音乐是否有内生的厌女倾向，还是它只是反映了手握资源的人们对女性困境的不为所动？ As a pop culture podcast, we can’t not talk about one of the biggest cultural moments in hip hop (and beyond): the infamous rap battle between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. But for us here at Cyberpink, dissecting this rap beef goes further than just chronologically listing out who dropped what song when, or the cultural significance of “Not Like Us.” When we first experienced racialization as young immigrants, Kendrick’s profound lyrics were part of the canonical texts we read to understand race and identity in the U.S. Kendrick vs. Drake goes beyond two rappers showing off their creative chops -- it started a whole conversation around how we should consume and evaluate hip hop culture. As insults were traded and the battle escalated, accusations of domestic violence and pedophilia became lyrical weapons casually thrown around; no women or child was spared as partners, sons, daughters, and parents got dragged into the mix. Are these unverified accusations meant to protect real women, or are the two rap stars using each other’s fragile ego and fear of losing fame or wealth for their own gain. What are they gaining -- clout or their name in history as the winner? And at what cost -- women who get caught in the crossfire and further extending hip-hop’s inherent misogynistic tendencies? Is this whole showdown an indication that those with resources are indifferent to women's plight? It’s our job as culture consumers to ask these tough questions. Tune in for our discussion. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00:39 Drake与Kendrick Lamar的说唱对决的前因后果 00:04:57 Drake: 来自加拿大的混血童星和“说唱界变色龙” 00:12:44 Kendrick Lamar: 来自康普顿底层的声音，rap即诗歌，也是黑人文化的守护者 00:18:05 这场battle开始来真的: 音乐创作中开始出现大量个人攻击，战情升级 00:25:56 "Family Matters"与"Meet the Grahams": 当家庭成为歌词中的战场 00:31:57 "Not Like Us"和说唱音乐的性别困境 00:41:06 女艺术家们如何battle: Charli XCX和Lorde的和解 01:00:10 怎么办，我最爱的音乐人是一个艺术怪物 00:00:39 Drake vs. Kendrick: how the rap battle started 00:04:57 Drake: A biracial child star from Canada and too much of a chameleon? 00:12:44 Kendrick Lamar: A voice from Compton, rap as poetry, and guardian of Black culture 00:18:05 The battle gets real: Music creations start to include numerous personal attacks, escalating tensions 00:25:56 "Family Matters" and "Meet the Grahams": When family becomes a battlefield in lyrics 00:31:57 "Not Like Us" and hiphop culture’s gender problem 00:41:06 Female artists beef differently: The reconciliation between Charli XCX and Lorde 01:00:10 What if your favorite artist is an art monster 【拓展链接 The Links】 R-E-S-P-E-C-T Survivor Trauma Cannot Be Treated as Just Another Bar in a Rap Battle Drake and Kendrick Lamar Is the Last Great Rap Beef. Thank God. Drake and Kendrick Lamar are weaponising feminism Every Drake-Related Easter Egg In Kendrick Lamar’s “Not Like Us” Music Video 【结尾音乐 The Song】 Women by Little Simz 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content to talk about our readings, what we are watching, the events we are going to, and more. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 “Minor Feelings”是由韩裔美国作家诗人Cathy Park Hong的一本书，通过回忆录、文化批评和历史回顾的方式探讨了亚裔美国人流动的身份、情感和经历。作者自己作为一个“东亚女儿”和“少数族裔作家”的多重身份让她能敏锐地感受一系列仿佛已经成为日常的羞耻、愤怒和自我怀疑。在美国这样一个高度种族化的社会，亚裔往往被塑造成“模范少数族裔”，他们的勤奋和成功成了主流社会维护现状的工具。然而，当他们感受到种族歧视时，这套话术往往又会阻止亚裔美国人的表达。这些因为边缘身份产生的”微妙情感“（minor feelings）与美国关于种族的主流叙事相冲突，和亚裔美国人这个群体一样在黑白分明的种族讨论中被忽视或误解。 这本书最近被翻译成了中文在中国发表，名为《少数派的感受》。我们也借此契机请到我们的好朋友，杜克大学教授周成荫来谈谈种族意识、模范少数族裔神话以及历史事件对个人和集体身份的影响。 我们也分享了自己的移民经历，以及这些微妙情绪是如何在我们的日常情境和系统结构中产生的。 "Minor Feelings" is a book by Korean-American poet and writer Cathy Park Hong that explores the fluid identity, emotions, and experiences of Asian Americans through memoir, cultural criticism, and historical review. As an "East Asian daughter" and a "minority writer," Hong keenly perceives a range of everyday feelings of shame, anger, and self-doubt. In the highly racialized society of America, Asians are often cast as the "model minority," with their diligence and success used as tools to uphold the status quo of mainstream society. However, when they experience racial discrimination, this narrative often stifles Asian Americans' expressions. These "minor feelings" that arise from marginalization conflict with the mainstream American narratives about race and, like the Asian American community, are often overlooked or misunderstood in the black-and-white racial discourse. Recently translated into Chinese and published in China, we took this opportunity to invite our good friend, Duke University professor Eileen Chow, to discuss racial consciousness, the model minority myth, and the impact of historical events on personal and collective identity. We also shared our own immigration experiences and how these subtle feelings arise in our everyday situations. 【时间轴 The When】 00:29 《少数派的感受》:一本探讨亚裔美国人身份和经历的重要著作 02:50 解析“微妙情绪“:少数族裔在美国的日常挣扎 08:06 一代移民与二代移民的经历对比 13:40 亚裔美国人身份认同的复杂性 20:20 大学里的亚裔学生组织:寻找归属感 31:03 Eileen和小蓝在职场中的微妙种族歧视经历 45:14 亚裔内部的代际矛盾:政治立场的分歧 52:23 共同体意识的形成与挑战 01:17:22 多元文化经历作为一种“超能力” 01:24:39 如何利用自己的特权推动社会进步 00:29 “Minor Feelings”: A crucial book exploring Asian American identity and experiences 02:50 Analyzing “minor feelings”: Daily struggles of minorities in America 08:06 Comparing first-generation and second-generation immigrant experiences 13:40 The complexity of the Asian American identity 20:20 Asian student organizations in college: Searching for belonging 31:03 Eileen and Xiaolan's experience with subtle racial discrimination in the workplace 45:14 Generational conflicts and political stance divergences within Asian communities 52:23 Forming a coalition and a collective consciousness 01:17:22 Multicultural experiences as a “superpower” 01:24:39 Reflecting on how to use privilege to drive social progress 【拓展链接 The Links】 登上《时代》杂志封面的“东亚女儿” - 澎湃新闻 亚裔美国人，一个美丽但充满缺陷的虚构故事 Letter to My Child: Cathy Park Hong on the Peculiar Rhythms of Life During Quarantine 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content to talk about our readings, what we are watching, the events we are going to, and more. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 第96届奥斯卡颁奖典礼在两天前刚刚结束，疲惫娇娃在所有奖项公布之后录了一期播客来聊聊我们当下的感受和反应。在奥斯卡这个奖项在过去的很多年被反复的质疑、挑战之后，在以“学院奖”自居的奥斯卡看起来越来越和时代精神脱节时，我们还是想借助这个颁奖典礼，来重新审视“学院奖”和2023年许多电影（比如《芭比》）和社会事件（比如全世界正在发生的战争）的交织和互动，从而去审视支撑它的历史包袱、权力、固化和正在逐步调整的审美——以及，为什么它仍旧是电影节的最高奖项？赢得它，或者不赢得它，提名，或者不被它提名，意味着什么。 The CyberPink squad is back with an episode on the recently wrapped 96th Academy Awards! Over the past few years, the Academy Awards have faced a lot of questioning and criticism. As the self-proclaimed pinnacle of cinematic excellence, the Academy is struggling to maintain its reputation and convince people of its relevance. But the Oscars ceremony still provides an interesting lens to examine how this major cultural institution addresses ongoing events - from the writers and actors strikes to the conflict in Gaza. Which films, actors and actresses win ultimately is not based on merit, but on a myriad of factors and a relentless awards season campaign that has become the norm of the industry, a profound legacy of none other than Harvey Weinstein and his company Miramax. We discuss the history of Oscars, its genre bias, and what we think about the “Barbie snub.” 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 颁奖典礼的回顾和高光时刻 08:23 颁奖典礼外，加沙和乌克兰的战火 21:04 奥斯卡的种族多样性进步了吗？ 25:02 奥斯卡颁奖的竞选游戏，包括宣传策略和资源投入 33:05 奥斯卡的类型偏见 48:12 女性导演和女性主导电影在奥斯卡中的困境，特别是对《Barbie》和《Poor Things》的讨论 56:42 彩蛋：没想到我们还能继续聊poor things 00:00 Highlights and memorable moments of the 2024 Oscars Awards 08:23 Addressing the war in Gaza and Ukraine 21:04 Is the Oscars doing better in diversity? 25:02 The bloodsport of Oscars campaigning 33:05 The Academy’s genre bias 48:12 Ongoing challenges of female filmmakers in the industry 56:42 Yet more on "Poor Things" 【拓展链接 The Links】 Oscar Wars: A History of Hollywood in Gold, Sweat, and Tears I Still Believe in the Power of Sexual Freedom Jonathan Glazer’s Oscar Speech Becomes Latest Battleground in Israel-Gaza Conflict BarbieGate: Why All Oscars Snubs Are Not Created Equal The profound weirdness of Robert Downey Jr.’s Oscar win — and the category he won Is A24, the Indie Upstart with a Fresh Best-Picture Win, the Next Miramax? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 奥斯卡提名的作品《美国小说》American Fiction讲述了一个陷入这样的创作难题的黑人作家Monk——在以自己作为主体的Monk自己的书不被出版界和读者买账，却发现一部“迎合白人观众、贩卖黑人创伤和贫困”的书却大卖。于是Monk决定用通过写一部充满所以刻板印象的“黑人文学”去反抗自己的命运。但是却遭遇了一系列的家庭变故。 把这个故事翻译到疲惫娇娃熟悉的语境中，我们也能找到共通的挑战：女性书写女性的苦难一定是“吃女权饭”吗？亚裔书写亚裔的创伤是“迎合白人观众”吗？如何在忠于自我生活的创作中，同时能够获得创作的体面（收入、关注等等）？如何演绎生活的复杂度，同时也能鼓励其他族群的人和“我”共情？ 一个很会写的女的Caiwei也加入了这场对话。 The Oscar-nominated work "American Fiction" tells the story of Thelonius “Monk” Ellison, a Black writer who finds himself in a creative dilemma. Out of anger, spite, and disappointment in the publishing industry status quo, he takes up a pen name and writes a piece of "Black literature" filled with stereotypes as a form of rebellion, yet the publishing world gobbles it all up. The movie, when translated into familiar contexts, reveals universal challenges: Is it merely a form of capitalizing on feminism when women write about women's suffering? Is it catering to white audiences when Asians write about Asian trauma? How can one stay true to their own life experiences in their creative work, while also achieving dignity in creation (income, attention, etc.)? How can the complexity of life be conveyed in a way that also encourages empathy from people of other ethnic groups? Caiwei, our a talented female writer friend, also joins this dialogue. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 电影《美国小说》和电影导演编剧Cord Jefferson 05:58 对家庭故事部分的讨论，包括男主角Monk的家庭背景和家族创伤：人生的复杂度和混乱从Monk的角度徐徐展开 17:39 电影中对白人出版界人物的扁平化描写和对白人观众的讽刺 34:00 故事中穿插着故事，这个电影是一个三个圆嵌套的非常meta的结构; 女作家和Monk是互通的，而不是互为对立 40:59 电影结尾的开放式处理和对创作者能讲怎样的故事的探讨 01:00:23 我们值得看到真诚、细腻的少数族裔故事 00:00 “American Fiction”: overview of this Oscar-nominated movie and its creator: screenwriter-turned-director Cord Jefferson 05:58 The duality of the movie: intertwining storylines of the literary plot and the family drama, the complexity of life as a middle-aged man, all from protagonist Monk’s point of view 17:39 The intentional one-dimensional portrayal of characters in the publishing industry and the satirization of a white audience 34:00 The meta structure of this movie’s storytelling 40:59 Our discussion around the choice for an open-ended ending and what kind of creators are allowed to tell what kinds of stories 01:00:23 We all deserve to see authentic and nuanced stories 01:06:55 Bella's patricide, reconciliation with her father, and eventual symbolic rebirth as her father 【拓展链接 The Links】 https://tinhouse.com/on-pandering/ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 《可怜的东西》是一部关于剥削与女性命运的丰富、引人深思、扭曲的成长故事。在跟随好奇而大胆的主角贝拉·巴克斯特的两个小时里，我们闯入了贝拉的生活中，同时收获了一种“有益的混乱”——能够帮助我们理解了一系列复杂的问题：在一个企图界定和限制女性的世界里寻求女性自主权，性工作作为一种艰苦、剥削性质的劳动，以及在某种程度上，生物黑客技术和CRISPR伦理问题。 Poor Things is a juicy, chewy, twisted coming-of-age fable about exploitation and womanhood. The two hours we spent following the curious, bold protagonist Balla Baxter provided a helpful chaos for us to metabolize an array of complex problems: the pursuit of female autonomy in a world seeking to define and confine it, the nature of sex work as gritty, exploitative labor, and, at some point, the ethics of biohacking and CRISPR. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 今年颁奖季的宠儿Poor Things以及为什么我们要重新录制这集播客 04:04 我们对于这个电影的第一感受 10:10 “成熟女人的身体与婴儿的心智“——为什么我们对于Bella的担心程度随着她的旅程展开而忽上忽下？ 13:45 Poor Things是一部彻底翻转过来的《洛丽塔》？ 23:40 (假装我们在聊这部电影）电影的设定导致我们去思考了文本中复杂的性同意 35:47 Poor Things的科幻设定——人类为何恐惧技术？Bella是一个关于AI的角色（？？？），科学设定和伦理困境 45:30 我们对于现有科技以及特权人群改造人体的探讨 51:12 从事性工作的Bella和她的劳工意识觉醒 01:06:55 Bella弑父，和父亲和解，最后“变成父亲”的旅程 00:00 Poor Things - This awards season's darling - and why we're re-recording this podcast 04:04 Our first impressions of the film 10:10 "A mature woman's body with an infant's mind" - Why do our concerns over Bella fluctuate throughout her journey? 13:45 Is Poor Things a thoroughly inverted Lolita? 23:40 (Pretending we're discussing the film) - How the storyline prompts pondering complex consent ethics within the text 35:47 Poor Things' sci-fi premise - Why does technology unnerve humanity? Is Bella an allegory for AI (?) - scientific concepts and ethical dilemmas 45:30 Our exploration of current technologies and how privileged groups alter human bodies 51:12 Bella's awakened labor consciousness after entering sex work 01:06:55 Bella's patricide, reconciliation with her father, and eventual symbolic rebirth as her father 【拓展链接 The Links】 https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5149/9781469661940_berg https://www.thelancet.com/series/HIV-and-sex-workers https://www.thecut.com/2014/01/qa-the-woman-debunking-myths-about-sex-work.html https://pwd.org.au/sex-work-and-the-ndis-frequently-asked-questions/ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃的一季度一次的"氛围检查"aka闲聊节目又来了。从庆祝人生的某些瞬间，到对于婚礼各种细节的选择和对”物品“之间的拧巴关系，再到”怎么才能好好玩“，再到“最近上头下头是啥”，我们又絮絮叨叨聊了一个半小时。 In our quarterly “vibe check” tradition aka rambling chatfest, the CyberPink girls back to dive shallow(ish) once more. We hit the full life spectrum - from celebrating magical moments, untangling our love/hate with things (to Marie Kondos’s delight/chagrin), pondering how to properly “adult”...to spiraling into ‘what’s trending hot and not’ before emerging somehow wiser. Or at least blissfully 90 minutes older. 【时间轴 The When】 01:15 浅浅开头，这集播客我们基本上都在闲聊，如果你想听干货的话这期并没有 02:20 我们各自的焦虑梦 05:50 过去一年没发生什么大事，然后小蓝突然随便结了个婚 08:20 花酱对于小蓝的婚礼上"礼乐”的理解 14:20 小蓝在写婚礼誓词的心路过程 19:25 我们如何解读“结婚”? 如何庆祝一个人的存在？ 37:00 一芳的登基故事和一场回门宴引发的地缘政治事件 54:40 我们最近的上头和下头 1:16:00 活着就是挣点钱然后再去玩 00:15 Super casual open - this episode is all about random banter 02:20 Each sharing anxiety dreams plaguing our sleep/nap 05:50 The past year = no major events really...except Xiaolan randomly threw a wedding?! 08:20 Hana-chan interprets wedding ceremony “rituals” 14:20 Xiaolan details her agonizing vow-drafting journey 19:25 How we each approach/view “marriage” 37:00 Yifang's "enthronement" story...includes the "geo-political" drama at a wedding (!!) 54:40 Our latest addictions/obsessions 01:16:00 let's earn some $ then go play? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 2023年末，疲惫娇娃又与友台不合时宜录制了一期“不时疲惫”，与大家分享一些2023年我们不愿意透露的脆弱时刻。我们围坐在一起，聊起过去一年中各自独自在黑夜与灵魂对视的脆弱瞬间、无法解开的心结、尚未获得疗愈的创伤。希望你听到这期节目能够收获一些力量。大家新年快乐。 As the ball is about to drop to ring in 2024, CyberPink joined up with our comrades to put together another episode — a raw confessional session airing those vulnerabilities from the past year that we’d rather keep under wraps. We gathered round, spinning yarns into the wee hours about our solitary moments of fragility over months past, staring into the abyss of our souls as darkness enveloped us; the lingering emotional baggage yet to be reconciled and wounds still laid bare for all to see. And cheers to a bright new year ahead, friends. 【时间轴 The When】 （本次时间轴文案由不合时宜提供） 01:35 这期节目的由来：不时疲惫一相聚，都会jam出一集节目；而这期节目关于脆弱和痛苦 03:34 第一次去做心理咨询，心路历程经历了什么变化? 10:43 当一段亲密关系逝去以后，“我”的一部分似乎被带走 14:17 跟父母的关系——遥远又亲近 22:28 埋藏在你的成长经历当中的基底，确实形塑了你是什么样的一个人 36:45 和黑暗的情绪共处时，你用什么方式拉自己出来？ 52:33 因为ego的保护，自己可能看不到一些真相 01:01:28 现代人的情绪问题不是一个个体的现象，而是集体性、社会性的现象 01:04:12 在“钱越花越有”的口号下，人人向往模板化的生活，遮蔽了内心真正的追寻 01:09:57 为什么身心灵吸引了那么多女性,这是女权的失败吗? 01:15:13 如何理解宗教对现代社会的作用? 01:25:32 在活着以外，还能做一些正向的事情,就已经额外再创造意义了 01:30:16 如何平衡、界定EGO和自我主体? 01:35 we reunited and had this soulful discussions flow, as in this episode pondering vulnerability and anguish 03:34 One's inaugural therapy session - an intense inner reckoning 10:43 As intimacy dissolves, the lingering sense of losing part of oneself 14:17 Bonds with our parents - profoundly close yet distant 22:28 How the cornerstones of our formative years shape the essence of our identities 36:45 Battling melancholy moods - drawing one's psyche toward sanguinity 52:33 Does ego shield us from difficult self-truths? 01:01:28 Emotional malaise today is not merely personal but shared collective discontent 01:04:12 The compulsion to believe in “the more you consume, the more you have” obscures genuine inner purpose 01:09:57 Why does self-care retain feminine coding - a patriarchal relic? 01:15:13 Can religion still sustain modern life's demands? 01:30:16 Reconciling ego and selfhood - a perpetual undertaking 【拓展链接 The Links】 Gift from the Sea by Anne Morrow Lindbergh 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 有人说Bottoms 垫底俱乐部是一部高校性转版的《搏击俱乐部》，但其实远远不止如此。它荒诞离奇，充满暴力和一些隐藏的不算太深的讽刺和哲思，是适合我们这个时代的美国高校喜剧电影。 故事围绕着Josie和PJ这一对好友展开，她们是这所美国高中食物链的底层，不只是因为她们是拉拉，而是用她们自己的话来说：“gay，ugly and untalented”。在高三毕业前的最后一年这对好友决心突破自己，互为僚机泡到全校最受欢迎的拉拉队队员，而她们达成目标的方式就是阴差阳错组建了这个高中第一个女子搏击俱乐部。 这一期，小蓝和四位酷儿/Gen Z/Older Millennial朋友们，也是一档全新的女权喜剧播客《大波福娃》的主播们，一起聊了聊这部酷儿青少年校园“发烧梦”。 Some say "Bottoms" is a high-school-themed, gender-flipped version of "Fight Club," but it's far more than that. It's a bizarre and whimsical journey, filled with violence and some blazen satire and not-so-subtle philosophical musings— a perfect update of the high school comedy genre fit for our times. The story revolves around Josie and PJ, a dynamic duo situated at the bottom rung of the American high school social ladder. Their struggles extend beyond being lesbians; in their own words, they're "gay, ugly, and untalented." In their final year before graduating high school, this determined pair sets out to break free from their constraints to date the two most popular cheerleaders in the school. Their unconventional method? Accidentally forming the first all-female fight club in the high school. In this episode, Xiaolan and her four queer/Gen Z/Older Millennial friends, who are the hosts of the brand-new feminist comedy podcast "Dat Beauvoir," convene to chat about this queer teenage "fever dream." 本期参与录制的有： 桃子（she/her）：一个还没出道就隐退了的业余脱口秀演员，精通捆粽子和翻花绳 跑跑（they/them）：工匠/小丑/人民教师/高科技亚逼（消歧义），尊重且热爱谐音梗，老龄 Z 世代。 小苕 (it/its)：一颗零零后坡塔头，咖喱牛腩里的薯仔，地三鲜里的土豆 Nancy (she/her)：惨惨的博士僧，是一个older millennial中年人 Sis Peach (she/her): I have a Golden retriever, a plush dog with an imaginary ESA vest. Runrun (they/them): local shop tech / clown / adjunct / computer beep boops, pun always intended. Shao (it/its): A potato with Chinese characteristics. Can’t be fried or smashed. Nancy (she/her): a struggling PhD, older millennial 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 对电影的初印象：高校性转版的《搏击俱乐部》? 10:46 电影里的主要女性角色 33:51 时空错乱美学：Y2K的视觉叠加在2023年的观念上 43:30 美国高校电影和我们的酷儿启蒙 54:48 为什么这部电影里的暴力如此令人心旷神怡（？） 01:15:54 这个电影吃了几个性别研究博士生？ 01:32:58 今夏其他破破烂烂间歇发疯但是歌颂暖心女性友谊的喜剧电影 00:00 Initial Impressions of the Movie: A Gender-Swap High School Version of "Fight Club"? 10:46 Deep dive on our favorite characters 33:51 Aesthetic of Temporal Disarray: Y2K Visuals Superimposed on 2023 Concepts 43:30 American High School Movies and Our Queer Enlightenment 54:48 Why the Violence in This Movie is So Delightfully Liberating (?) 01:15:54 This Film is a Gender Studies Love Fest 01:32:58 Other Ragged, Intermittently Insane, Yet Heartwarming Comedies Celebrating Female Friendship This Summer 【拓展链接 The Links】 大波福娃 ‘Bottoms’ Review: Physical Education Getting So High That You Think You’re Going to Die - Ayo Edebiri - Taking the Stage Sabrina Wu - Hot Girl Impression 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

本期节目已入选豆瓣播客2024新春精选推荐活动，欢迎大家到豆瓣收听！ 【聊了什么The What】 无论你是Taylor Swift的忠实粉丝还是普通路人，你肯定听说过这位美国女歌手，以及她从出道以来经历的不同的“eras”（时代）对流行文化的影响。 从她高中时期固化女性形象“You belong with me”的时代，2009年金融危机后被Kanye羞辱的”受害者公主“时代，2010年中期的时代金发红裙维密秀上的时代，再到2023年她开启的全美巡演撬动几十亿美元经济活动的”eras”时代。 这期疲惫娇娃，我们以Taylor Swift在2023年的演唱会名字“Eras”为主题，回顾她2008年初出茅庐再到2023成为定义时代的流行巨星的一路。无论是循环播放她的歌，还是将她作为流行文化的符号来去深入研究，我们都在人生的不同阶段和Taylor Swift交织。每一个Taylor的时代都能让我们回溯到过去十五年的某一种人生状态，唤起一些根深蒂固的回忆和情绪。本期节目中我们深入挖掘她多年来的各种造型，职业生涯变革的颁奖典礼时刻，与其他巨星的争执以及她的音乐——并探讨这些主题如何与我们自己的成长紧密相连，以及过去十五年“女性”作为一个集体意识是如何进化和蜕变。 Whether you’re a die-hard Swiftie or just a regular person who’s not into her songs, there’s no denying the grip that Ms. Taylor Swift has had on American pop culture since her debut in 2006. In her most recent “Eras” tour, which generated roughly $5 Billion USD for the US economy, Taylor Swift walks the audience through her many eras: the hopeless romantic princess in sparkly dresses in “You Belong With Me,” who then fell from her pumpkin carriage and claimed victimhood after Kanye’s public humiliation of her in 2009; clapping back at critics and experimenting musically with “Red;” embracing her "girl squad" of famous friends and cementing her spot as a pop culture icon with “1989;” her villainelle era with “Reputation;” and taking quaratining at home to the next level by embracing cottagecore with “Folklore” and “Evermore” during the pandemic. In this episode of CyberPink, we take a look at how different stages of our own lives intersect with Taylor Swift’s eras and how we interacted with her – whether it’s through passionately listening to her songs on repeat, reciting the lyrics, or simply studying her as a pop culture artifact and what her popularity means from an anthropological perspective. Each Taylor era evokes memories and emotions that allow us to revisit a moment somewhere in the last fifteen years. So join us as we dive deep into her many looks through the years, career-changing award show moments, feuds with other mega stars, and her music – and explore how the themes intricately intertwined with our own growth, and the evolution of what it means to be a modern woman. 【时间轴 The When】 03:00 Fearless Era：来自纳什维尔的邻家女孩和我们的青春期 22:29 在2009年MTV音乐录影带大奖颁奖舞台上，Taylor和Kanye命运的齿轮开始转动 37:00 Red Era：流行巨星Taylor同时也是机灵乖巧的”最大公约数女性“ 42:40 Taylor vs Spotify：改变音乐行业的流媒体 50:00 Famous歌词的争议，和2016年前后美国流行文化的大转弯 01:09:00 Reputation Era：Taylor的音乐母带和重录争议 01:25:05 Midnights Era：Taylor的第十张专辑，为女性和自己创作 03:00 Fearless Era: The girl next door from Nashville and our collective coming-of-age 22:29 On the stage of the 2009 MTV VMAs, the wheels of fate begin to turn for Taylor and Kanye 37:00 Red Era: Pop superstar Taylor as the clever, well-behaved “common denominator” woman 42:40 Taylor vs Spotify: When streaming upheaved the music industry 50:00 The controversial lyrics of “Famous” and America's culture shift around 2016 01:09:00 Reputation Era: Debate over Taylor's master recordings and re-recordings 01:25:05 Midnights Era: Taylor's tenth album, written for all women and herself 【拓展链接 The Links】 我们提到的文章： For Taylor Swift, the Future of Music Is a Love Story Tom Hiddleston on Taylor Swift, Heartbreak, and Great Bolognese Taylor Swift (Acquired’s Version) Listening to Taylor Swift in Prison 其他参考的内容： Make the Whole Place Shimmer: America Spends Big for Beyoncé and Taylor Swift Non-Fungible Taylor Swift Scooter Braun Makes $300 Million Deal for Big Machine Records Taylor Swift’s Feud With Scooter Braun Spotlights Musicians’ Struggles to Own Their Work The unavoidable politics of Taylor Swift Kanye West Addresses Hip-Hop’s Homophobia In 2005 Interview | MTV News Can't Shake It Off: How Taylor Swift Became a Nazi Idol Taylor Swift: The Rolling Stone Interview 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 从荞麦信箱和Reddit上的“Am I the Axxhole”，全世界人类的一大共性就是热衷于观察其他人的“家务事”，并给出自己的判决——You are not the axxhole，为网友的乳腺着想，分手吧。在最琐碎的家务事中，有无数隽永的社会问题和模糊的道德难题；故事随处可见，但把这样的故事讲好又非常难。2023年斩获金棕榈的法国剧情悬疑片《坠楼的审判》就是个中出彩之作。女作家Sandra的丈夫Samuel从他们的家顶楼坠楼离奇死亡，而Sandra成为了最大的嫌疑人。整个故事就围绕着这桩疑似谋杀案的司法调查展开，但被当堂剖析的不只是疑案——Sandra和Samuel之间失败的婚姻，父子、母子和伴侣之间那些心照不宣，无法言说的细微情绪统统被放在法庭上被代表所谓公平正义的律师、法官和看客逐一剥茧抽丝。 If the popularity of the “Am I The A**hole” subreddit and its Chinese equivalence were any indication, we humans really love nothing more than sticking our noses all the way in other people’s family business and passing judgments. But it takes an extraordinarily skilled storyteller to bring out the universal, profound moral struggles embedded in our seemingly mundane, daily life: what does it mean to be understood, even in the most intimate relationships? Can anyone be persuaded? If so, by facts or manipulation? “The Anatomy of a Fall,” which won the Palme d'Or prize at the Cannes Film Festival this year, is an icey, cerebral thriller about a mysterious death and a failed marriage, but also about truth, persuasion, the power of narratives, and all the unspoken love and cruelty within human relationships. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 坠楼的审判是一部“文学”的电影 12:14 杀人犯是Sandra吗？ 23:50 悬疑片外皮下，对于所谓“真相”塑造过程的剖析 36:48 站在审判席上的“成功女性”和亲密关系中的权力 56:34 Sandra与Samuel的争吵，失权者的绝望 00:00 “Anatomy of a Fall” and why do we like literary cinema 12:14 Did she do it? 23:50 The court scene, and how we construct “truth” in our relationships 36:48 The “successful women” on trial and power dynamics in intimate relationships 56:34 The fight scene, and the despair of the disempowered 【拓展链接 The Links】 'Anatomy of a Fall' dissects a marriage and, maybe, a murder Part of the ‘great resignation’ is actually just mothers forced to leave their jobs 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022