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Porcelain have just released their second record Today's Minor Victories a raucous and authoritative noise-rock/post-punk/post-hardcore whatever collection of songs sure to delight fans of Sonic Youth, Unwound, Blonde Redhead, Slint, etc. Steve has been on the show, but in the time after Exhalants and before Porcelain was a thing. Ep227 in 2021! So needless to say this is overdue. We talk about the formation of the band, playing in a two guitar band with Ryan and all the incredible work they have done as aband. The personal nature of the lyrics for this one. How Scott Evans recording process led to their best record yet. House music being played at the same volume as the bands between bands, the physical toll of live audio work, bombastic outros and millennial dread, walking somebody through life threatening crisis, challenging masculinity and sexual norms, writing a song while grieving his grandmother, and "I'm Going to Live Through This Apocalypse". it's a great far-reaching and deep conversation.

Ale Campos's band Las Nubes is fantastic, but equally fantastic is her road work as Iggy Pop's live guitarist after meeting him at a record store. We hear about how that has come to pass, getting that last minute call, and the kind of world she operates in when playing with Iggy, a living legend. We speak of Tormentas Malsanas the most recent Las Nubes record, recorded with Jonathan Nuñez, Ale's path into music in Florida, including being in a secret christian band, and her disinterest in being a frontperson, how Ale writes hooks (odd time surprises) How Ale's custom aluminum guitar ended up being a divorce gift and so much more!

Wonderlick, a band that comes together through drunk voice notes and instant demos, has a new record with Appalachian folk musicians backing them! We talk about the making of that record Wonderlick Loves You, and how Jay and Tim even met all these musicians, as well as recording in a cabin studio... how house show tours changed their music and record. The Too Much Joy reunion tour and record, deluxe reissues, creative liberty v. touring limits. How being rebellious power-pop for smart people isn't usually a path to mainstream success. What purposefully sitting down and writing a hit felt like. How Too Much Joy sold the first Pay What You Want record BEFORE Radiohead burning out and then picking up the guitar again, all this and a lot of talk of Branson, Missouri and Yakov Smirnoff and the failed pilot Jay tried to make with him. It has been quite a awhile since Jay's TMJ and Wonderlick bandmate Tim Quirk was on the show, which included a new Too Much Joy record and tour, so let's get into it and how likely it is we will see Too Much Joy stuff in the future.

Chances are you know Ryan from playing drums in the desert rock supergroup Stöner, Mario Lalli & The Rubber Snake Charmers or the incredible Brant Bjork Trio, but did you know that Ryan is a multi-instrumentalist who actually started on piano? All of this is on display in his impressive debut record The Shastafarian, evoking everything from Funkadelic, Thin Lizzy to Tom Petty the record is very cool but may not be what you expect. Much talk about the making of that record, as well as the origins of Stöner, Tao of the Devil, Mount Shasta, how being adopted has sculpted Ryan's life, being true to your vision, producing yourself, the demo process, the unique process of live improv the Rubber Snake Charmers and so much more!

Dem Phylzzz boyz are at it again! That's right, new record "Fear the Lord" AND a tour. As well as a live record where everybody is vociferously booing, jeering and shouting insults. no kidding. Super group Gatta Morta. How Clinton recording with Buzz, Pinkus and Coady came to pass. How not caring about insignificant details resulted in them making their boldest record. Vetting bands and created shows that are good vibes, what goes into making a good music video and the story behind the Rodeo Clown video. How trusting each other musically changed their writing, How kindness wins, and why people don't want to help people who are rotten. Shortcuts and the WORK required for true success, how comedy shaped the Phylzzz stage persona, merch business and when studio songs don't need to be played live. Clinton singing History of Bad Men with Melvins live. The story behind Abby and her brief tenure as the third Phylzzz. What makes a song the best and being ruthless with cutting what doesn't serve it. An examination of modern social media from youtube clips to touring with Harry Styles and how one reel led to a million plays. All that and SO MUCH MORE.

The incredible impresario of Rancho De La Luna at last returns to Protonic Reversal! The studio, home to so many classic records, including the legendary Desert Sessions. The Rancho Mezcal! the studio anniversary recording project, Why live shows are harder than they look, and the unique challenges for Earthlings? The Queens of the Stone Age origin story, Dave originally coming to Joshua Tree. loss, age and why you must get on it NOW/ All that as well as the time Iggy flashed a first time fan, as well as the time Iggy threw a mic stand at Larry, and... you know, the whole Post Pop Depression record. The "No New Normal" movie. Surviving the Bataclan attack in Eagles of Death Metal and returning to play, Joe Walsh's "tone secret", being part of the 9th most streamed record of all time with the Arctic Monkeys. It doesn't seem possible that it ahs been 8 years since Dave was last on, but here we are!

The Claudettes new record Garage Glamour might be their best! The piano driven cabaret/blues/R&B group have always had a punk spirit that veers into the film noir world, but this is the first album with powerhouse singer Rachel Williams. The exciting story and theories behind Don't Give It Up to the Thieves, and a Bezos blackmail opera. Growth as a musical artist and using your band's strength, the Bass VI, Why Johnny wants every household to have a piano, We talk about all that as well as Johnny scoring the smash TV series "The Bear" with JQ on a QUICK turnaround, Songwriting process, Bad sounding records that are good, etc.

Michael Hampton (Aka: Kidd Funkadelic) took over for Eddie Hazel as a very young man of 17, playing the iconic Maggot Brain. Costumes and "joining the circus", minimalism in funk, composition and arrangement, the collaboration and cross pollination of the P-Funk extended universe, Eddie's Four-bar solos, why "One Nation Under a Groove" still resonates, practice, mistakes and the ethos of funk. Bands and songs that sample Funkadelic and much more! Michael also has two new record records In the Public Domain, which is released under public-domain license, which grants artists, filmmakers and marketers everywhere royalty-free usage of the music and the brand new King Kong record!

The Dwarves have a new record out called Jenkem, it's a hard, fest and mean one. Hearkening back to many of their now classic records. Such as Blood, Guts and Pussy, with the infamous album cover, Come Clean, and ...are Young and Good Looking. The evolution from the scrappy and tumultuous scum rock band with the bad boy reputation, to becoming purveyors of song craft and sustaining a career. The passion and connection of the Dwarves fans and the gold in the middle of the road. Blag also speaks about the books he has written (three so far), his old column in Zero Magazine, Blag's theories about spreading out attention with monoculture overcorrection, his thoughts on Nirvana the origin story and continuing Saga of Ralph Champagne.

The nomadic duo are back with a new record called Lichtung, and this one is all auf desutch! On limited-edition candy coloured vinyl, CD and digitally. What does lyric writing in German vs. English entail? Well, quite a lot actually. Lots with that, the perils and rewards of recording, the wonders of mixing and mastering. Alexander leaving Einstürzende Neubauten. Desolation Center... Gentrification and cost of living, the obstacles to coming back to the US. and what hackedepicciotto is up in the immediate future. It's been a few years since Danielle and Alexander have been on, but their unique vision continues to shine in all they do.

The long running band Microwaves are back with another awesome record Temporal Shifter! It has been three years since drummer Roman was last on with his microwaves compatriots, so let's find out what has been going on with this long lived and fascinating prog punk band, shall we? A bit of Voivod influence and some of the character in this new record, which includes... Saxophone? Pre-production and other details, the story behind the art by Neil Burke of Men's Recovery Project fame. SON OF Central office (good callback), how microwaves songs are created and lots more. As well as Brown Angel being Adam's vehicle and why the songs stuck, a bit of a lament for Night Vapor (ZZ Tape and Yankee Rose cover inclusive) and some about Rated Eye talk too.

It has been almost four years since Kira came on Protonic Reversal, before her FIRST solo record even. Now her second one Engima is coming out, a tribute to her fallen friend and collaborator, Co-produced with her brother Paul (Screamers) and featuring backing vocals from Petra Haden it features a minimalist bass approach. The Oscar and Emmy winning dialogue editor opines about Black Flag, creativity in the modern world and much more. We talk about that as well as using a headset mic and muscle memory, DOS with two basses (with Mike Watt) being the spirit of the punk rock ethos if not sound, holding it down while the other players in Black Flag went off, European crowds throwing beer cans at Flag because the music was slow and with long hair, the DIY model of touring that Black Flag (and Chuck Dukowksi specifically) started and honed. Check out Kira's awesome new record and this lovely talk with a DIY and punk rock pioneer!

Gene Trautmann played in Queens of the Stone Age, playing live and on the legendary Rated: R record as well as the Desert Sessions. But he is a mysterious figure amongst many fans. Yet he's now resurfaced playing with the legendary Alain Johannes in Alain Johannes Band. Let's find out why Gene stopped blaming his drums. Find out about his start with Miracle Workers and the Paisley Underground. What it was really like playing at Ozzfest with QOTSA, How Gene made Josh promise that he'd get to play on Go With the Flow. Monsters in the Parasol. How a chance meet up turned into touring with rock 'n roll Mozart Alain Johannes ended up with Gene playing in the Alain Johannes Band. Advice for younger musicians and creators. The majesty of Mario Lalli. How dealing with Mark Lanegan required "prison rules" sometimes. Touring with Eagles of Death Metal. Oh yes, and an introduction to Sadie.

Mike Baggetta is back! We've talked in the past about the collaborations with Jim Keltner and Mike Watt, as well as the band mssv (main steam stop valve) with watt and Stephen Hodges, but what precisely is a Casa Sueño ? Well, how about an all new band with Watt, Baggetta and John Herndon of Tortoise and Isotype 217. Learn all about Casa Sueño, and their TRUE west coast tour (Mexico and Canada included) as well as the latest album from mssv See You through... making a record AFTER touring it, why Mike Baggetta has stopped explaining the meaning of songs, playing less and avoiding jam excess, why the new record has only one guitar solo, also why it is just out there without presaves, learning from older players, the the nature of connection with music and engagement and tons more.

Gregg Deal came to being a bandleader and punk rock singer late, coming up as a transgressive visual performance artist first originally from Utah and now living in Denver. Abjectly political and direct, Dead Pioneers have struck a chord and their newest one Wagon Burner, which fits very nicely into that new legacy with a new single featuring Jason Williamson of Sleaford Mods. It is pretty hard to be confused of the messaging with songs like Nazi Teeth. Following up PO$T AMERICAN and the spirited self/titled debut with the iconic song Bad Indian, social issues, political stances and the lived experience of being an indigenous descendent reclaiming a lost voice as well as a physical record collection. The raw energy is hard to beat and it has impressed many, including Pearl Jam who took them out on tour.

Bob Bert is Back! With Beach Blanket Bloodbath, his first true solo album. A percussion heavy record featuring original compositions as well as reimagingings of notable guitar heavy compositions. Just without the guitar. We talk Bad Moon Rising and the enduring legacy of that specific Sonic Youth record. Just exactly what was up with Action Swingers and Ned Hayden. Vincent Gallo causing a ruckus in a diner, What made Lydia Lunch Retrovirus so special and cool. Jon Spencer & the Hitmakers and what happened with the end of that band. The great zine BBGun, Bewitched, filling in on drums for Live Skull, Chrome Cranks and why you probably won't be seeing Bob on tour anytime soon, but should DEFINITELY go to this insane record release show if you are available. Bob is always a great guest and a wonderful guy. Great to have him.

Neptune have a new record and are back on tour! That's right the noise-rock/experimental pioneers with the handcrafted and welded "junk" instruments, feedback organs and other esoteria are out there with a new record called "Play Some Music" and are playing all across the lands once more. Who has been injured by said metal instruments and how? We speak about likeminded compatriots like Liars, Black Dice, Lightning Bolt, etc. hard touring in the 2000s and being paired with all of the strangest bands due to being unclassifiable. The logistics of operating as a band while now living in three different areas and the incredible story behind the artwork of Play Some Music by Sean Micka, details from Book Out Of Stock But Six Pictures, a cycle of paintings about the life of Mildred Fish Harnack (1902 - 1943).

Point Line Plane is back! The early 2000s "synth punk" band that were contemporaries with so many luminaries are back in 2026 with a reissued first album by Skin Graft. Let's hear the story of the band's formation, the deep understanding of lore, as well as the beginnings of Witch Mountain. Witch Mountain, of course, was well ahead of the DOOM trend. Creative viability, pushing forward with sounds and returning to the music after a prolonged absence. Playing drums in Two Ton Boa, building bridges vs. burning bridges, sustainable living as an artist...all that and the origin story for one of the most enduring and respected band booking agencies around, Nanotear booking. Oh yeah, and did you know he's a published author too? Wow!

Duane is back! This time to talk Tomahawk, and the upcoming tour on Tonic Mobility, which the band never has toured before. So listen is as we talk about picking the pool of songs, practicing songs that have never played live. Practice procedures, as you age. Bands growing and changing versus "giving the people what they want". How the playing of the players has changed over the years since the band started as well as some other heady topics. The deconstruction of professional performance of David Yow. Rock as a social event, tje nature of creativity, what makes a great live band, art vs. entertainment, influence, taste, overcoming the algorithm, Jim Kimball, the future of the Jesus Lizard and lots more... as well as the D2Archipeligo!

A drum themed protest record with chants? Yeah, that sounds like a good record store day purchase. The fantastic drummer for Season to Risk, David Silver comes on Protonic to talk all about it an all-percussion album designed to energize and unify the defense of democracy, joined by Ian Prince (Houston, BirdHands). Featuring Matt Chamberlain, Blake Fleming, Kliph Spurlock, Greg Saunier and many more this is a unique and cool project, whose digital versions include EXTENDED versions to be played at nonviolent protests over a Loud speaker. We talk about that, all the recent activities in Minneapolis with ICE, as well as Ian Prince's DIRECT ACTION WITH DRUMS, amongst many other hot button political items. Hear all about how the record on Skinsuit Communications, came together, how to make protests more effective, and more.

Stay Puft is a Ghostbusters themed concept record by the music collective known as The Chop. These are the same guys responsible for The Beverly Crushers (a Star Trek The Next Generation themed concept band that Rob Kassees was on for), and Ghostbeef, a post-apocalyptic concept record about the fast food chain Arby's. Tom doesn't just play bass for these wild conceptual records, but he's also part of the pantheon of the increasingly popular 1001 Album Complaints podcast. Where Classic albums' from the 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die book are given full backstories told by musicians who love to mercilessly nitpick the details. Conan has been a guest on this great show before and will again. This is a deep dive into all things Ghostbusters and a detailed song by song breakdown of the record. Why not? The title of this very show was inspired by the movie!

Six years have past since Chris Spencer was last on Protonic! At the time Human Impact was brand new. So let's catch up. Starting with the reissue of Occupational Hazard on Lamb Unlimited. Remastered and including the AmRep demos. Unsane with Eric Cooper and Jon Syverson will be doing a lot of touring this year, along with an appearance at Roadburn! We speak about that as well the incredible story behind the release of the once lost, than found Improvised Munitions, and exactly where The Ernie Chicorelli disappeared to...the nature of the Telecaster and why it is the perfect guitar for Chris. The Body Bomb video (and MTV's very succinct response), synergy with the sonic science of Jim Coleman with Human Impact. Human Impact writing something like 48 songs during the pandemic. Celan Recording in Berlin's Neubauten studio in a wild two-week sprint. Cutthroats 9, Frank Kozik and Man's ruin. All that and so very much more!

4 years and a month ago (what? Really?), William Goldsmith was on to talk about Sunny Real Estate, Fire Theft, Foo Fighers and Assertion. Now Assertion has a new record that snuck into Conan's top records of 2025 "Basking in the Gaslight". In additon to that Sunny Day Real Estate has been back and playing shows ! The "Down in the Park" sessions with the Foo Fighters (as well as some great talk about Gary Numan).. the recording of Diary and history of that as well as revisiting. Which albums William can listen to and which he can't... and that there are 3 2" tapes of 90s Sunny Day Real Estate waiting to get listened to. Wow! All this plus SDRE and Fire Theft history. William's powerful friendship with Scott Jernigan of KARP, including a two drummer project! and lots, lots more. It's been a long time, let's catch up.

Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: aka: butterfly knives). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in.

1. B. Hamilton - B. Hamilton - Good Foot (ep429)

2. Lung - The Swankeeper - The Money

3. Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays - Break Me In (ep425)

4. mclusky - the world is still here and so are we - way of the exploding dickhead

5. PLOSIVS - YELL AT CLOUD - Falls Equivalency

6. HLLLYH - URUBURU - Black Rainbows (ep434)

7. Buñuel - Mansuetude - Drug Burn (ep401)

8. Deaf Club - We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness - Nihilism For Dummies (Ep432, Ep442)

9. Vile Bees - Joy Coughs - Anime Bodies

10. Chat Pile and Hayden Pedigo - In the Earth Again - Demon Time

11. We Contain Multitudes - Minako - D9 (ep431)

12. Jolie Laide - Creatures - Something for the Thrill (ep424)

13. Resurrectionists - Any Time You Make a Place for Them - Hey Man

14. Cheer-Accident - Admission - Cold Comfort (ep430)

15. FACS - Wish Defense - Wish Defense (ep417)

16. Heet Deth - Bad Reading - King of Swords

17. Cosmic Kitten - Cosmic Kitten - Hole In My Soul

18. The Austerity Program - Bible Songs 2 - Lamentations 4:7-11 (Ep423)

19. Sloan - Based on the Best Seller - Dream Destroyer

20. Swami John Reis - Time to Let You Down - Fed to the Dogs

21. Shiner - BELIEVEYOUME - Asleep In the Trunk

22. Tropical Fuck Storm - Fairyland Codex - Dunning Kruger's Loser Cruiser

23. Melvins - Thunderball - Victory of the Pyramids

24. Lightning Swells Forever - Delirium - Daze

25. Assertion - Basking in the Gaslight - Please Wake Up

Listening playlist - apple music, spotify, youtube music

Also, while listening to stuff... Conan put out a Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends record called The Way of the Neutron too. apple music, spotify, youtube music

The evolution of the Champs, including the Santa Cruz days and move to SF and Tim Green joining. Playing metal in an environment that didn't always support that. changing the name to C4AM95 for their "third record" and why that may have not been the smartest idea. Listing gear in the record jacket, Drag City, Changing to The Fucking Champs (based on a t-shirt), IV and Extra Man. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, Josh leaving and Phil Manley tagging in. Side projects and how the Champs kind of petered out. Tim also has a synth based electronic record out called Orange Magnet on bandcamp. and why a Fucking Champs reunion is pretty unlikely.

It has been SEVEN YEARS since the mighty J.D Pinkus has been on Protonic Reversal. The Butthole Surfers documentary, recording with John Paul Jones (and getting him to swear off alcohol!), lack of credits in the BHS world and dipping out before the "big hit", high tech rednecks putting together the insane visuals in a pre-photoshop era. Playing with Helios Creed, singing in your proper range, space banjo, Double Live and the story of Kathleen the Sh*t lady, Tall Tall Trees and Ponder Machine, Grow a Pear, Union Synthesizers, Fungus Shui (and it being a TRUE solo record, sans dogs), Kramer. Songs v. Sound. Versions of songs and how they live after being written. Jackofficers and "Hick-hop", Hurdy Gurdy Man, word of mouth v. Internet, is P S Y the BHS version of Dark Star? Live at Leather Fly, The BHS book by James Burns. Breakaway bottles, Upcoming tour with Clutch and COC and SO MUCH MORE.

Steven is back, after a 5 YEAR (!) break. Redd Kross has been very busy! Including releasing their latest (and best?) album The Redd album. Upcoming shows with the Hard Ons and Little Steven's Underground Garage CRUISE. The critic inside your head, staying present... the formation and career of OFF!, taking a 10 year break from touring... joining Melvins and adjusting to being a utility player and serving the music, as well as bringing the BIG ROCK! Dynamics with Jeff McDonald, vs. others, a 45 year spanning band! KISS, Neurotica, Sparks talk (like: playing in their live band!). The Redd Kross documentary featuring the SONG Born Innocent. and Spirit of '76. Hey, he's a busy guy, let's dive in.

The legendary drummer returns! A long time coming, This is Rey's return to Protonic Reversal all the way from Episode 27! The Scratch Acid Box Set, and legacy. The "R" band and reactions to that band's name and the future of that music on streaming. Playing with Ministry, Big Boys. Didjits and Phantom Planet (!). What led Rey to try his hand at acting and how that worked out. String sections in punk rock songs and why Rey wish he had gotten to know Steve Albini better.

It has been over 4 years since JP has been on protonic! And in that time Deaf Club has only thrived they have a new record We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness AND he's launched his own podcast called Cult and Culture. What else? Well, a lot actually. Lots of podcast talk, as well as Dead Cross and Dave Lombardo, Michael Crain and Retox, the Locust legacy, Head Wound City, the return of Swing Kids, Brian's love of Nirvana, keeping 31G alive as an independent label in 2025, the Oops tour and competitiveness in music, and amongst everything else...recreating Killing Joke's Extremities with Martin Atkins. It's a back and forth conversation and a good time as Conan squeezes in one last protonic reversal before tour JUST for you.

Nuzzle was a high energy indie rock band from Santa Cruz, adjacent to the Gravity Records and K/Kill Rock Stars west coast scenes of the 90s. Follow For Now, their 1995 record has been reissued by Solid Brass Records a remix and remaster! We get into the history of Nuzzle, Yo-Yo A Go-Go, Junk of Myth, and a little bit of the Dying Californian. As well as revisiting songs, remixing and remastering records without the pressure of immediately going on tour, bay area punk rock history, George Chen, oh yeah and Conan's first van being one of Nuzzle's old vans.

Season to Risk is a legendary band, formed in 1989. They predated the indie gold rush, put out two records on Columbia, toured hard with a "who's who" of 90s rock, Built their own studio (destroyed by a flash flood) and continued on making interesting and unique records. In 2025 they released 1-800-Meltdown, a collection of rare and unreleased songs, covers, experiments, demos and more. They are back and touring, to the delight of all. Also, revealed on the show: A reissue of In a Perfect World for record store day! All of this, the legendary van flip of 1997. The origin of Record Bar, Steve's venue in Kansas city. Sie Lieben Maschinen (with Josh Newton and Chris Bolig), Roman Numerals, Violenteer, a detailed accounting of the Season To Risk's history and a whole heck of a lot more. It has been a long time coming, dig in!

The year is 2025 an the band Silkworm is BACK! This line-up includes early member Joel RL Phelps, who wrote and played on the first three records, but is not as known to people who knew SKWM as a three piece. After the tragic death of drummer Michael Dahlquist in 2005 Silkworm as a band was no more. So let's hear about what these shows entail, how they came about and how it all fits together, shall we? Couldn't You Wait documentary, legacy of the band, growing as musicians, muscle memory, Missoula to Seattle to Chicago, the eras and what songs to play, a quick rundown of the selected Silkworm discography. etc. Tim has been on the show a few times (including a song-by-song deep dive on Firewater) and is always wonderful. In 2025 Silkworm has reformed with original member Joel RL Phelps and new member Jeff Panall. Permanently? We shall see. Tim Midyett returns to talk all about it. SILKWORM!

The Creative Asylum is Daniel House's brand new podcast, a 1:1 interview show exploring the minds & imaginations of people living authentic, creative lives. He may be new to podcasting, but Daniel House has the CV. You may recognize him from his old band Skin Yard with Jack Endino that slightly predate that whole 1990s gold rush. Nirvana opened for them, they had crossover membership with Soundgarden (Matt Cameron!) and put some awesome records. He also operated CZ Records for years, home of the Deep Six comp and later putting out records by the Gits, Silkworm, Built to Spill, 7 Year Bitch and many others. We walk through all of that as well as potential future recording plans and many other things.

The legendary Tom Flynn has a new 7" out DO THE THUD, Dale Crover plays drums on it and the singer for Star Pimp does some vocals. Awesome! We talk about how weirdly timeless The Money Will Roll In by Fang has become, covered by so many famous bands. The foundation of Boner records and operating a record label long before the internet. Meeting Melvins and Steel Pole Bath Tub and then putting their records out. The LYSOL lawsuit, Antler Family, DUH, Suboptics, Star Pimp and FANG! Tom is a unique guitar player and foundational guy in weird and iconoclastic music. Take a listen!

Dazzling Killmen are back in 2025. What an incredible thing to have the band that released the mighty and influential Face of Collapse playing live shows once again. This episode has a focus on their enigmatic, intense and powerful drummer, who started drums young playing in drum line, and had a whole post DK career with the wonderful Laddio Bolocko. AKA: The band that Mars Volta really wanted to be. Speaking of Mars Volta did you know that Blake played in that band? Twice, actually so stay tuned for all that as well as a Dazzling Kilmen early days and deep dive and the future for that reunited band. Certainly not something that could have been predicted when singer and guitarist Nick Sakes came on last.

There's a new band they are called HLLLYH and they have a record called Uruburu. But it also the Mae Shi. Kind of... wait, what? Song by song breakdown of this wonderful record as well as the origin story of this new band, how the record came to pass and another look at the very interesting history of the band that was known as The Mae Shi. Jeff Byron has been on the show, now let's talk to brother Tim!

Nina is back! And with a new record only available on bandcamp. Songs for a World of Trouble isn't just an awesome record, you can't get it on the other streamers. However, you CAN purchase it direct from the artist. Dedicated to the late, great Steve Albini it is a grand experiment and a worthy entry into Nina's discography, it comes with a digital book as well. Song-by-song breakdown of that ensues in this conversation, as well as at length discussions at the state of being an indie musician in a walled garden streaming society and lots more. Updates from the very recent Jolie Laide tour and tons more.
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The mighty DEAF CLUB have a new record called We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness. This excellent band also features former guest of the show Justin Pearson on vocals. This is their best record yet, and we get into all of that as well as Brian's approach to guitar, music, and songwriting. Nirvana, covers, space in music and coming up as a musician in Argentina vs. the US. Spinning Plate Records and the absolute necessity of the record store in the development of younger music fans. the Videos, the nature of collaborations, noise as hooks and lots, lots more.

We Contain Multitudes is Jon Fine's new band with Orestes from Bitch Magnet, and it is a corker. Their debut record is called Minako, and it is out now on Expert Work records. A must for fans of Explosions in the Sky, Fucking Champs, Russian Circles, Side 2 of My War, King Crimson, fugazi and things along those lines. It has been 10 years and one month since Jon's last appearance for his book Your Band Sucks: What I Saw at Indie Rock’s Failed Revolution (But Can No Longer Hear). He ended that book by talking about NOT starting another band. So what changed? Well, listen to find out! As well as a free ranging discussion on discovery, creativity, tour culture, the art of creation and so much more.

The incredible and very long-lived Cheer-Accident have a new record called Admission and some are saying it is their best one yet! Out of... 26? The three decade old band are embarking on a tour of the US and while Thymme is a returning guest, Jeff has never been on the show. Let's get into their longtime collaboration, a song by song of Admission, on the ever reliable Skin Graft records, as well as which Styx record is in the crawl space and which brass instrument can or cannot ruin songs and whether tours are better in retrospect in real time. Dive in!

The new B. Hamilton record is one of Conan's favorites of the year. What a pleasure it is to have the wonderful Ryan Christopher Parks back again to talk all about it. Deep dives into songwriting, Raj's process as well as this one bringing a Warp Records (!) feel to some of those rock 'n roll songs. Arrangements and space. Motorik music, synths, experimentation with lyrics and structure. Losing Macy and gaining Ian Miller (but only after the record is done). The art of songwriting, the deep humanity and dark frustrations of every day life. Wordy as hell ep titles and lots, lots more.

Well alright! 4 years after his bandmate Dave Leto's appearance. Protonic Reversal listener (!) Ralph Cuseglio, the voice of Rye Coalition comes on the show to talk PAID IN FULL. A new double A-side 7" and digital single paying tribute to Steve Albini and Rick Froberg with a cover of Shellac - Wingwalker and Drive Like Jehu - Bullet Train to Vegas. Yes indeed it's the first Rye Coalition release in a VERY long time. The entire Rye discography is discussed as well, included On Top and the seemingly cursed Curses, as well as the Lipstick Game, Hee Saw Dhuh Kaet, the documentary the Story of the Hard Luck 5. All that as well as the absurdity and glory of touring and being a band, getting slapped by David Yow (TWICE!), and all that great stuff. Climb the Stairway to the Free Bird on the Way to the Smoke on the Water!