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| From East Berlin to Ireland: A Cold War Journey of Resilience (363) | 30 Aug 2024 | 01:32:51 | |
Juli begins by recounting her early years in East Berlin, a time marked by the tragic loss of her father. Drafted into the army just days before her birth, her father continually deserted to see his family, ultimately leading to his untimely death. This early loss left Juli and her mother to
navigate a harsh landscape in East Germany alone.
Life in East Berlin was a world of contrasts. Juli describes the indoctrination she experienced in school, where lessons were steeped in socialist propaganda. The Berlin Wall, a symbol of division and oppression, loomed large in her family's life, cutting them off from relatives in the West. Despite the regime's efforts to control information, Juli's family found ways to glimpse the outside world through Western television channels, fuelling her desire for freedom.
As Juli grew older, she became increasingly aware of the regime's lies and the oppressive nature of the state. The revolutionary movements of the late 1980s, sparked by events like the Tiananmen Square massacre, galvanized her. Juli joined the Monday demonstrations in Leipzig, risking her safety to demand change.
Juli’s story doesn’t end with the fall of the Wall. She moved to Ireland, where she built a new life and family. Her reflections on transitioning from a controlled, oppressive state to a free society are profound. She speaks candidly about the challenges of adapting to a new way of life and the lingering impact of her upbringing.
East Germany episode playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1gHCa6R8q5OXkUncJQmyFm?si=9cc56794cf7244bc
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| BRIXMIS and the Secret Cold War - Intelligence Collecting Operations Behind Enemy Lines in East Germany (362) | 23 Aug 2024 | 01:07:48 | |
BRIXMIS and its operations behind enemy lines continue to fascinate the listeners of Cold War Conversations. In August 2024 I was honoured to be invited to the National Army Museum in London to interview Andrew Long, the author of BRIXMIS and the Secret Cold War - Intelligence Collecting Operations Behind Enemy Lines in East Germany.
The National Army Museum is a leading authority on the British Army and its impact on society past and present. It’s well worth a visit, particularly their Foe to Friend exhibition about the British Army in Germany since 1945 which is on until the end of September 2024.
In front of a sellout audience including approximately 50 BRIXMIS veterans and their families, we discuss the role, purpose and achievements of BRIXMIS. The accompanying presentation can be viewed here.
The interview starts with an introduction from former BRIXMIS officer Major General Peter Williams and Chairman of the BRIXMIS Association. I’m delighted to welcome Peter Williams, Andrew Long and a sellout audience at the National Army Museum to our Cold War Conversation.
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Linked episodes
BRIXMIS, the defence of Cold War Berlin & Rudolf Hess https://pod.fo/e/f833
Pete – a BRIXMIS driver behind enemy lines in East Germany https://pod.fo/e/eeb4c
Arrested 11 times, plus 3 shooting incidents – a BRIXMIS officer’s diary Pt 1 https://pod.fo/e/13af96
Imprisoned in a Soviet Military gaol - a BRIXMIS officer's diary Pt 2 https://pod.fo/e/13ca90
In conversation with 7 BRIXMIS veterans – Part 1 https://pod.fo/e/1599d9
In conversation with 7 BRIXMIS veterans – Part 2 https://pod.fo/e/15b0ac
Royal Military Police versus the Soviets (SOXMIS) in Cold War West Germany https://pod.fo/e/12c9d6
Behind enemy lines in East Germany with a US Military Liaison Mission driver Part 1 https://pod.fo/e/d4229
Behind enemy lines in East Germany with a US Military Liaison Mission driver Part 2 https://pod.fo/e/d757b
Soviet and U.S. Military Liaison Missions & US Counterintelligence https://pod.fo/e/e4f55
Cold War US Army Intelligence Analyst https://pod.fo/e/1f383
US Army Intelligence gathering in the unified Germany https://pod.fo/e/b2cb3
Episode extras https://coldwarconversations.com/episode362/
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00:00 Introduction
12:06 Post war Germany was split into four occupation zones
16:35 BRIXMIS offices in Berlin and East Germany
21:06 Contacts between Soviets and British
23:27 The tour role in East Germany
30:16 Exploiting intelligence from Soviet rubbish tips
32:15 Restricted areas in East Germany
35:55 Missions and intelligence scoops
40:04 Descriptions of special equipment
42:05 BRIXMIS Cars
44:01 James Bond switches
47:59 Photography
50:36 Overnighting in East Germany
53:25 There East German and Soviet opposition
56:58 Close scrapes and fatalities
01:02 Where to buy the book
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| Cheltenham Schoolboy to Cold War Canberra Jet Pilot (353) | 28 Jun 2024 | 00:44:34 | |
Jeremy Lane’s fascination for aviation was nurtured by countless childhood hours watching aircraft at Staverton Airport and North Weald.
He shares his experiences flying the Jet Provost and later, the Canberra. He describes the capabilities of this versatile and iconic aircraft, from high-speed reconnaissance to its nuclear role.
The Canberra's design, with its twin jet engines and rudimentary navigation equipment, required high skill and constant attention. The stories of flying at low levels, navigating with minimal aids, and the ever-present risk of engine failure provide a gripping insight into the life of an RAF pilot.
This episode is a treasure trove of aviation history and personal anecdotes. Whether you're an aviation enthusiast or simply curious about the life of an RAF pilot, this episode offers a compelling and immersive experience.
Tune in next week part 2 where we go into detail about the challenges of nuclear operations along the edge of the Iron Curtain.
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| The building of the Berlin Wall (263) | 26 Nov 2022 | 01:15:26 | |
From the moment East Germany was formed in 1949, many of its citizens chose to leave to start a new life in the West. By the mid-1950s, the trickle had turned into a flood as large numbers rejected Walter Ulbricht’s Communist paradise. His ‘Workers’ & Peasants’ State’ could not afford to lose the skills and productivity of these key workers, so he proposed a radical solution - to physically fence in the whole population.
I speak with Andrew Long, the author of a series of books about Cold War Berlin as we explore the background and build-up to the building of the Berlin Wall, from the closing of the Inner German border to the momentous events of August 1961.
We examine in detail how Operation Rose, the operation to close the border between East and West Berlin, was planned and executed and look at how the West reacted.
0:00 Introduction
1:04 Formation and Exodus of East Germany
7:51 Dissent and Exodus in East Germany
15:39 The Unique Situation in Berlin and the Establishment of Air Corridors
18:11 Khrushchev's Ultimatum and the Role of Nuclear Deterrence
24:16 Arrival of JFK and the Renewed Ultimatum
33:27 Operation Rose and the Planning for the Berlin Wall
47:08 Situation at Checkpoint Charlie and Allies' Response
56:43 Propaganda and Defection Post-Border Closure
1:07:30 Rules of Engagement and Fortification of the Berlin Wall
1:11:23 Acknowledgement of Financial Supporters and Donation Call to Action
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| Guarding Rudolf Hess, Hitler's Deputy Führer (262) | 19 Nov 2022 | 00:57:19 | |
Dave Phillips is a Yeoman Warder at the Tower of London. The Yeoman Warders have been guarding the Tower since Tudor times.
Dave joined the British Army aged 16 into the Royal Irish Rangers. We hear of his early years in the Army in Northern Ireland and his posting to West Berlin.
In West Berlin Dave is part of the force that guarded Rudolf Hess, a leading member of the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany and appointed Deputy Führer to Adolf Hitler in 1933.
On 10 May 1941, Hess made a solo flight to Scotland, where he hoped to arrange peace talks with the British. He was arrested and stood trial at the 1946 Nuremberg trials of major war criminals. The court convicted him of crimes against peace and of conspiracy with other German leaders to commit crimes and was given a life sentence in Berlin’s Spandau Prison.
Dave describes interactions with Hess, as well as the guard duties and operation of the prison.
0:00 Introduction and Dave Phillips' early experiences in Berlin
1:04 The story of Rudolph Hess and his arrest
6:16 Dave's experiences in Berlin and Spandau Prison
15:38 A typical day for Hess in Spandau Prison and guarding duties
24:56 Hess's time at the Tower of London and conversations with him
28:59 Military training in Berlin and preparations for a potential invasion
36:00 Interaction with other occupying forces and West Berlin locals
39:44 Dave's return to Berlin years later and reminiscing about the fall of the Berlin Wall
45:16 Career progression, service in Northern Ireland and UN Peacekeeping
49:22 Dave's current role as a Yeoman Warder at the Tower of London
52:54 Financial support and donations
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| From Cold War military drone development, to the deployment and command of the nuclear armed Ground Launched Cruise Missiles (GLCM) in Europe (261) | 12 Nov 2022 | 00:56:41 | |
We continue the story of Richard Stachurski from the previous episode. Part 1 is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode260
In 1971 Richard left NASA and was assigned to the Drone/Remotely Piloted Vehicle Systems Program Office at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
From 1975-1978 Richard did a tour of duty with the Air Staff at the Pentagon in Washington D.C. and between 1978-1981: he was Deputy Program Manager, Ground Launched Cruise Missile Program (GLCM) System Program Office-engaged in the adaptation of the Navy’s SLCM for use by the Air Force.
In 1981 he was assigned to the staff at USAFE Headquarters (Ramstein Air Force Base, Germany) responsible for the deployment of the GLCM to five European countries (England, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, and Italy).
Richard was then promoted in 1984 to Vice Commander, Commander, 487th Tactical Missile Wing, Comiso Air Station, Sicily where he was responsible for the missile wing's operational readiness, and his troops' welfare.
0:00 Introduction and background of Richard Stachurski
4:18 Rationale behind developing drone programs
13:12 Design and manufacture of the missile launcher and control center
17:34 Richard Stachurski's agreement to go to the Royal College of Defense Studies in London
34:45 Initial impressions of Comiso Air Base and roles at the base
41:10 Encounter with Russian special forces
45:30 Dealing with peace protesters and security protocol
46:49 The short-lived cruise missile program
51:59 The significance of the Apollo 11 mission
53:20 Cold War Conversations Store Promotion
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| Nuclear missile launch control and Mission Control for the NASA Apollo Moon Missions (260) | 05 Nov 2022 | 00:54:20 | |
Richard Stachurski joined the US Air Force in 1962, on the cusp of the Cuban Missile Crisis as a security police officer guarding nuclear-armed B-58 Hustler bombers.
Within two years he volunteered for the Minuteman nuclear missile program where he served as a Deputy Missile Combat Crew Commander with the 68th Strategic Missile Squadron at Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota. Richard was the junior officer on a two-man crew in a launch control capsule buried beneath the South Dakota prairie who was charged with monitoring the status and launching if necessary ten Minuteman ICBMs.
In 1965 he was selected as one of 128 Air Force officers to be loaned to NASA to support the activation and operation of the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston, Texas. He worked his way up to being a Network Controller, who sat two consoles to the right of the Flight Director in the Mission Operations Control Room. He was responsible for all the ground systems that supported an Apollo mission and was selected as the lead Network Controller on Apollo 11 working on both the launch from Earth and the first-ever launch from the lunar surface.
0:00 Introduction and Career Overview of Richard Stachurski
2:33 Richard's Journey in the US Air Force and the Cuban Missile Crisis
9:25 The Minuteman System and Life in the Bunker
20:14 Launch Protocols and the Dynamics of Working as a Missileer
27:03 Richard's Transition to NASA and his Role in Apollo 11
34:29 Apollo 11 Launch Day, Landing, and Return to Earth
44:43 Richard's Experiences during Apollo 13 and Subsequent Missions
48:10 The Camaraderie and Humour in High-Stress Situations
50:00 Acknowledgements and Promotion of the Cold War Conversations Online Store
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| Britain's 1980s Cold War Dads Army/Home Guard - The Home Service Force | 28 Oct 2022 | 00:57:57 | |
The Home Service Force or HSF was UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's Cold War version of the World War 2 Home Guard.
An almost forgotten unit, the HSF was established in 1982 and recruited from ex-regular Army, ex-territorial and ex-uniformed service personnel aged up to 60 years old. Its mission was to guard key points in the UK as the perceived threat from Warsaw Pact special forces increased towards the end of the Cold War.
I speak with Richard Coles, who served as an officer in the HSF Company of The Honourable Artillery Company (HAC). He tells of the setup of the unit, the incredible characters he served with and details some of the exercises that he participated in.
0:00 Introduction and overview of the Home Service Force
2:38 Richard Cole's background and establishment of the Home Service Force
6:34 Recruitment and training process for the Home Service Force
13:51 Role and perceived threats of the Home Service Force
21:45 Diversity and roles within the Home Service Force members
29:12 Memorable characters and experiences within the Home Service Force
34:31 Career paths and attitudes towards promotion within the Home Service Force
38:35 Various training exercises and anecdotes from the Home Service Force
47:28 Disbandment of the Home Service Force and its irony
51:44 Richard Cole's service in 2 HAC companies and reflections on the bond between old soldiers
53:18 Sponsor: Episode extras, acknowledgements, and invitation to Facebook discussion group
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| An aircraft hijack to escape from the Soviet Union (258) | 21 Oct 2022 | 00:47:16 | |
Back in the 1970s, migrating from the Soviet Union was an unattainable dream for many, particularly Jews wanting to leave for Israel. To leave the Soviet Union for another country, it was necessary to obtain exit visas. In practice, many people found them impossible to get.
On the morning of June 15, 1970, 16 Soviet Jews who had been refused exit visas appeared at Smolny Airport near Leningrad to hijack a plane. They posed as a group going to a wedding — hence the name of the operation.
The plan devised a year before the attempted hijacking, was quite straightforward. The hijackers would target a small aeroplane and book all the seats on it. They would commandeer the aircraft and leave the pilots unharmed on the landing strip, while one of the conspirators would take control of the aeroplane and fly it to Sweden.
I speak with filmmaker Anat Zalmanson-Kuznetsov whose film “Operation Wedding” reveals the compelling story of her parents, the leaders of the group.
0:00 Introduction and background on Soviet Union migration
7:22 The Struggle of Soviet Jews' Emigration
11:16 The Origin and Execution of Operation Wedding
17:03 The Arrests and Aftermath of Operation Wedding
24:36 Prison Conditions and International Reaction
30:17 Influences and Interventions: Golda Meir and Franco
33:03 Soviet Restrictions on Emigration and Its Impact
35:22 Release and Life Post-Prison for Anat's Parents
40:52 The Making of the Film "Operation Wedding"
42:49 Acknowledgement of Supporters and Closing Remarks
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| Defending RAF Gatow - Britain's airbase in Cold War Berlin (257) | 14 Oct 2022 | 00:50:46 | |
Trevor Howie’s role at RAF Gatow was advising the Station Commander on Station defence during times of war, tension or terrorist threat as well as the defence of 26 Signals Unit at the Teufelsberg listening post.
RAF Gatow’s western side was located right against the Berlin Wall which was clearly visible from the control tower. Beyond the Wall was the Döberitz training area for the Soviet and East German Army.
Soviet jets regularly overflew West Berlin emitting sonic booms to underline the immediate threat from their forces.
To gain intelligence about the opposition Trevor used the resident De Havilland Chipmunk aircraft to see across the Wall and observe the neighbouring Soviet and East German forces. He describes the defence plans and exercises such as Exercise Grizzly Bear where every member of the air station would have played a part in its defence.
Trevor vividly describes how he heard that the Wall had opened on 9th November 1989.
It’s a fascinating view of British forces in Berlin and their plans should the Cold War have turned hot.
0:00 Introduction and Trevor Howie's role at RAF Gatow
3:53 The role and responsibilities of a station regiment officer
8:21 The vulnerability of the base and the plan in case of an attack
13:37 Life in Berlin during the Cold War
19:50 Discovery of a Stasi spy on the base and introduction to British Services Security Organization
23:50 Preparations for Exercise Grizzly Bear and the realization of the fall of the Berlin Wall
31:24 Enhanced security measures post-fall of the wall
37:27 Impact of the fall of the wall on Berliners and the beginning of the exit of Soviet forces
43:10 Discovery of World War 2 ammunition and relics in the base
46:10 Podcast extras, appreciation of financial supporters
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| Guarding Britain's nuclear weapons and RAF Akrotiri during the Cold War (256) | 07 Oct 2022 | 00:59:01 | |
Following his RAF Regiment officer training Trevor Howie was posted to 34 Sqn at Raf Akrotiri in Cyprus, commanding C Flight. The RAF regiment was effectively the Royal Air Force’s infantry, providing ground defence for air operations.
34 Sqn had a dual role of providing defence at Akrotiri and in the event of war at RAF Wildenrath in Germany.
Trevor vividly describes his time at Akrotiri, including terrorist threats and realistic anti-riot training exercises the enthusiasm of the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders required a hospital ward to be kept available for casualties.
In 1986 Trevor became involved in Nuclear Weapon Security training, where the training techniques he introduced were the subject of complaints. His service also includes stints at RAF Greenham Common where he describes providing support to the US nuclear-armed cruise missile deployment there.
Don’t miss next week’s episode where Trevor is posted to RAF Gatow in West Berlin as the Station Regiment Officer, responsible for advising the Station Commander on how to defend the Station during times of war, tension or terrorist threat.
0:00 Introduction and brief about Trevor Howie's role during the Cold War
2:31 Trevor Howie's training and role in Cyprus
14:17 Description of weaponry and tactics used during the Cold War
22:30 Potential terrorist incident and precautions taken
30:04 Security and transportation of Britain's nuclear weapons
35:43 Evolution of military readiness and training for competence
42:15 Use and criticism of physical punishment in military training
46:08 Transforming challenges into rewarding experiences during training
48:03 Role in protecting cruise missiles at Greenham Common
54:24 Conclusion: Episode extras and thanking financial supporters
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| The 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis with Sir Max Hastings (255) | 30 Sep 2022 | 01:01:57 | |
The 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis is reckoned to be one of the most perilous events in history, when the World faced a looming nuclear collision between the United States and Soviet Union. During those weeks, the world gazed into the abyss of potential annihilation.
I speak with Sir Max Hastings whose new history Abyss: The Cuban Missile Crisis 1962 tells the story from the viewpoints of national leaders, Russian officers, Cuban peasants, American pilots and British disarmers. The period is brought to life with eye-witness interviews, archive documents and diaries, White House tape recordings, and top-down analysis. More than purely a focus on the 13 days of the crisis, the book provides context through the Cold War experiences of Fidel Castro’s Cuba, Nikita Khrushchev’s Russia, and Kennedy’s America.
Among the areas we discuss are how Cuba became a crisis, the failure of intelligence on both sides, and those nail-biting Thirteen Days in which Armageddon beckoned.
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0:00 Introduction and discussion on the Cuban missile crisis
7:35 Examination of the decision-making approaches during the Cuban Missile Crisis
15:07 Analysis of Jack Kennedy's political considerations and the missile gap myth
25:58 Comparison of Nikita Khrushchev's wisdom and Putin's actions in Ukraine
33:30 Analysis of fear's role in decision-making during the Cuban missile crisis
40:29 Discussion on the portrayal of military leaders in the Cold War
43:05 Exploration of communication failures and the impact of technology during crises
48:08 Cultural context and perspectives of the missile crisis era
52:10 Personal memories and humor in the face of the missile crisis
57:05 Conclusion and details about Max Hastings' book, "Abyss"
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| “Houston, we’ve had a problem” interview with Fred Haise, Apollo 13 astronaut (254) | 23 Sep 2022 | 01:29:54 | |
Fred Haise was one of the three astronauts on the ill-fated Moon mission when a design fault caused an oxygen tank to explode mid-mission putting the Apollo 13 crew in mortal danger on April 13th, 1970. This was the seventh crewed mission in the Apollo space program and the third meant to land on the Moon.
Now as you can imagine I’m genuinely excited to be speaking with one of the Apollo astronauts. Fred and I talk about his life and his almost accidental entry into flying. We cover his admission into the astronaut programme, the family impact, and as you can imagine go into some detail about his experiences on the Apollo 13 mission.
Many of you will know of this mission via the Film “Apollo 13” starring Tom Hanks, and Fred shares his views on the film and corrects some of the inaccuracies.
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0:00 Introduction
6:14 Fred Haise's journey to becoming an astronaut and role in Apollo 11
16:39 Selection and preparation for Apollo 13 mission
32:41 The Apollo 13 crisis: the explosion, aftermath, and survival
51:21 Critical maneuvers to correct trajectory back to Earth
1:03:42 Activation of the command module and return journey
1:11:12 Splashdown and immediate aftermath
1:18:48 Analysis of Apollo 13 film and Fred Haise's book 'Never Panic Early'
1:25:17 Episode extras, acknowledgment of financial supporters, and closing remarks
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| A Cold War Hungarian Journey Through War, Revolution, and Emigration (352) | 21 Jun 2024 | 01:03:27 | |
In this comprehensive narrative, Imre recounts his life from his birth in 1936 in Hungary to his emigration to the West after the 1956 Hungarian Revolution.
He discusses the influence of his family’s Hungarian and German heritage, his father’s work in the oil industry, and the impact of World War II and communist rule on his upbringing.
The account vividly describes his education, military training, and involvement in the 1956 Hungarian Revolution. He also highlights his subsequent escape to Austria and eventual resettlement in England including living with Bridget’s parents who featured in episode 322
Imre elaborates on the hardships faced by his family due to political changes and the repressive regime, as well as his educational and professional journey in the UK, culminating in a successful international career.
His narrative provides a poignant look at the personal ramifications of leaving your country and the impact on relatives left behind.
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| An 18 year old US Military Policeman in Cold War West Berlin (253) | 16 Sep 2022 | 01:15:44 | |
Richard Blevins enlisted aged 18 in the US Army in March of 1987. He completed Basic Training & Military Police School training in July of 1987 and was posted to West Berlin as a United States Military Policeman.
He describes his selection for Berlin duty while at Rhine-Main AFB in Frankfurt and his first journey across East Germany on the US Duty train to West Berlin.
Richard’s first year consisted of patrol duties and combat training as well as serving at Checkpoints Bravo and Charlie as the assistant to the Non-commissioned Officer in Charge.
He also got selected as a traffic accident investigator in 1988 where he would patrol with the West Berlin Police and respond to all car accidents involving US military, dependents, and civilian workers as well as West German nationals.
Richard also describes how he heard the news on November 8th, 1989, that Erich Honecker had lifted all travel restrictions on East Germans starting at midnight.
He is a close friend of Michael Rafferty who appeared in episode 13 with his account of the last days of Checkpoint Charlie. Don’t miss Michael’s video of 1980s Berlin in the episode notes.
0:00 Introduction with Richard Blevins
5:00 Richard's journey to Berlin and first encounter with Soviet troops
15:00 Contrasting West and East Berlin and living conditions
25:00 Richard's assignment to 3rd platoon: Patrol duties, training, and interactions with Royal Military Police
35:00 Liaising with Soviets and training with British units
45:00 Duties at checkpoints Bravo and Charlie
55:00 Living near the Berlin Wall and its transformation post-fall
1:05:00 Friendship with Michael Rafferty and plans to revisit Berlin
1:10:00 Security measures for soldiers and interactions with locals
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| A trip across Central Europe on a East German MZ motorbike (252) | 09 Sep 2022 | 00:43:15 | |
MZ was an East German motorcycle manufacturer located in Zschopau, Saxony. The acronym MZ stands for Motorenwerke Zschopau GmbH (German for Zschopau engine factory).
In the 1980s MZ was regarded by the British motorcycle press as producing ugly and old-fashioned (if worthy) motorcycles however, there was a hard-core set of UK fans who loved this relatively, cheap and easy-to-repair bike.
Julian Howe was a big fan of the MZ bike. He tells of a bizarre honeymoon of fellow MZ club members which involved MZ bike fans from across the UK touring Western Europe and the Warsaw Pact Countries.
From sharing drinks with border guards to being on the receiving end of CS gas in Krakow it’s a tour through late 1980s Europe on the back of a two-stroke MZ motorbike.
0:00 Introduction and background on MZ motorcycles
1:21 Call for donations and testimonial from a supporter
5:28 The journey begins - crossing the border into East Germany
11:26 Interaction with an East German border guard and reflections on environment
15:20 Entering Poland and experiences with locals
22:19 Crossing through Czechoslovakia into Hungary and visit to a private museum
26:12 Visit to Prague and interactions with locals
29:37 Return journey through East Germany and humorous encounter at the border
33:47 Julian's most memorable experience from his trip and favorite media recommendations
38:29 Closing remarks and appreciation for financial supporters
39:02 Encouragement to join the Facebook group and continue the conversation
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| Imprisoned in a Soviet Military gaol - a BRIXMIS officer's diary Pt 2 (251) | 02 Sep 2022 | 01:01:28 | |
This is the 2nd part of my interview with Lt Col. Stephen Harrison, MBE who served for two years as a full-time Touring Officer with BRIXMIS. The tours were hazardous three-man, vehicle-borne patrols collecting intelligence on the Warsaw Pact forces in East Germany for up to five days and nights over a series of four-month patrolling periods.
In this episode, we hear of Stephen’s imprisonment in a Soviet Army gaol, following detention in a Soviet Army garrison town as well as East German and Soviet Army press coverage about his activities.
Stephen’s speciality was using his language skills to engage and befriend opposition troops and thereby gaining valuable intelligence. He used to go into bars frequented by Soviet officers and recalls one particular drunken night in Potsdam..
We also hear about his visit to the infamous World War 2 prison camp of Colditz castle where he befriends the staff enabling other BRIXMIS tours to visit regularly.
Stephen also shares details of the top-secret Operation Tomahawk, a particularly unpleasant mission which may not be for those of a sensitive disposition.
In later years Stephen obtained his Stasi file which reveals that the surveillance on him was far closer than he’d ever believed.
0:00 Introduction and Stephen Harrison's role in BRIXMIS
10:21 Stephen's arrest and time in a Soviet military cell
15:48 Stephen's role as interpreter and socializing with Soviet officers
22:53 Stephen's experiences during town and cultural tours
27:38 Stephen's Stasi files and the accuracy of their reports
33:25 Stephen's work and dealing with detentions
38:49 Operation Tomahawk: Exploiting Soviet military rubbish tips
47:57 Reflecting on the human side of intelligence gathering
49:45 Podcast end notes, acknowledgments and donation information
50:15 Invitation to join the Cold War Conversations Facebook group
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| Arrested 11 times, plus 3 shooting incidents - a BRIXMIS officer's diary Pt 1 (250) | 26 Aug 2022 | 00:52:38 | |
Lt Col. Stephen Harrison, MBE served for two years as a full-time Touring Officer with BRIXMIS. These Tours were hazardous three man, vehicle-borne patrols collecting intelligence on the Warsaw Pact forces in East Germany for up to five days and nights over a series of four-month patrolling periods.
They lived in the field and did not carry weapons while Soviet and East German troops were nearly always armed, and their ever-present sentries carried live ammunition. The Tours operated in the closest proximity to these hostile and aggressive Warsaw Pact troops whose orders permitted them to use whatever force necessary, including opening fire, to protect the property they are guarding.
We hear in detail about Stephen’s experiences in these demanding and frequently dangerous situations, as well as how he used his language skills to engage and befriend opposition troops gaining valuable intelligence which made him a particular threat to the Soviets.
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0:00 Introduction and Background of Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Harrison
2:19 How to Donate to Cold War Conversations
5:27 Stephen's Experiences and Roles During the Cold War
15:05 Techniques and Strategies Used on Tours
23:14 Emergency Situations and Adaptations During Tours
30:10 Interactions with East German Population and Soviet Troops
41:13 Encounter with Soviet Air Defense System and Other Incidents
47:39 Reflections on Risk-Taking during Operations
47:58 Closing Remarks and Acknowledgements of Financial Supporters
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| Life in the forbidden zone at the East/West German border (249) | 19 Aug 2022 | 00:51:00 | |
A young Claudia Bierschenk lived at the edge of a world called the GDR, in a village surrounded by hills, valleys and thick forests.
Her great uncle lives in the Forbidden Zone, the area where the East German border is a few metres away from West Germany. This is where the villages are like ghosts towns and inhabitants need special permits to enter.
Claudia provides a vivid and unique description of entering the Forbidden Zone for the first time after being granted special permits to visit her Great Uncle on his 80th birthday. His house is the last house before the final border fences and Claudia describes up close to the fences, while her grandfather tells her about “rabbit discos”…
We also hear more of her life in this isolated area, including strange sports activities and Claudia’s experience of being trained as a 12-year-old Para medic.
We end the episode talking about how she and her family experienced the momentous events of 1989 when the border opens, and East Germans are free to cross into West Germany.
Claudia has distilled these stories into a book, Never Mind, Comrade, published by Tangerine Press
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0:00 Introduction
1:00 Life and experiences in East Germany featuring Claudia Biashek
10:07 Claudia's family history during World War 2
17:10 Claudia's journey to the restricted zone and first sight of the Berlin Wall
25:35 Claudia's family decision to emigrate and the fears associated
34:35 Claudia's experience during the opening of the borders and crossing into the West
44:27 Adaptation to life in the West
46:00 Introduction to Claudia's book, "Nevermind Comrade"
46:24 Acknowledging financial supporters of the podcast
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| The girl at the edge of the World - an East German childhood at the West German Border (248) | 12 Aug 2022 | 00:56:18 | |
A young Claudia Bierschenk lived in a village surrounded by hills, valleys and thick forests at the edge of a world called the GDR. It could be beautiful, but the Iron Curtain runs through it, like a tectonic plate separating East and West and Claudia from her West German relatives.
She tells of her life in this isolated area, of village life, far away from the socialist showpiece of East Berlin, where there are only two types of yoghurt in the village store.
In a series of snapshots, we re-live her childhood of secretly watching West German TV, learning “Marxism-Leninism for kids” at school, and the rare joy of a phone call from the West.
We also hear of her parents’ challenges. For her father, it’s his home village, but he is criticised for his liberal views and for wearing Western braces to school. Locals see her mother as an outsider, and she yearns for a life in the West with her sister in West Berlin.
Claudia has distilled these stories into a book, Never Mind, Comrade, published by Tangerine Press. Buy the book here https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781910691700
0:00 Introduction and Claudia Bierschenk's early life in the GDR
6:50 Claudia's family occupations and life in a small town
14:08 Education and the system of punishment and reward in East German schools
24:06 Viewing Western television and maintaining contact with relatives in West Germany
33:07 Claudia's family experiences with the Berlin Wall and escape attempts
38:42 School experiences and navigating discussions in East Germany
44:13 Tightening of border controls and holidays in Hungary
49:56 After school activities and sports under the ideology ofEast Germany
51:30 "Nevermind Comrade" book by Claudia Bierschenk
52:00 Acknowledgement of financial supporters and call to action
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| A daughter's 18 year search for her Cold War CIA pilot father at the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba (247) | 05 Aug 2022 | 01:00:41 | |
In 1961, members of the Alabama Air National Guard secretly took part in the failed invasion of Cuba by U.S.-backed Cuban exiles known as the Bay of Pigs. This was a covert attempt by the United States to overthrow the Soviet-allied Cuban government of Fidel Castro.
Pete Ray was one of eight Alabama guardsmen who flew combat missions on April 19th 1961, which resulted in the deaths of Pete and three members of the Alabama unit. U.S. President John F. Kennedy later acknowledged America's involvement but denied that American military personnel had entered Cuban territory. It was not until 1987 did the U.S. revealed that eight ANG members had indeed flown into Cuban airspace.
We hear from Pete Ray’s daughter Janet, who tirelessly worked to find out the truth of what happened that day despite the best efforts of the CIA, the Cubans, and the US government to obstruct her investigations.
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0:00 Introduction to the podcast and the story of the Bay of Pigs invasion
2:32 Guest Introduction: Janet Ray, daughter of Pete Ray
4:22 Pete Ray's involvement in the Bay of Pigs invasion
9:34 Aftermath of the Bay of Pigs invasion and the government's cover-up
15:03 Impact of the mercenaries' deaths on their families
18:52 The fear and paranoia in the families following the Bay of Pigs invasion
22:55 Janet's investigation into her father's death and resistance from the CIA
31:58 Janet's interactions with the Bay of Pigs pilots and Fidel Castro
47:15 The truth about Pete Ray's death and the return of his body
55:58 Wrap up and closing comments by Ian Sanders
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| British Army Air Corps helicopter co-pilot in Cold War Germany (246) | 29 Jul 2022 | 01:26:54 | |
Paul continues his story with his recruitment into the Army Air Corps. It’s initially delayed with a tour providing airfield repair in West Germany and then the Falklands, but finally, he’s at training at Middle Wallop, the home of the Army Air Corps.
He describes the training including underwater escapes, flying and navigation. As a Gazelle crewman, his role was navigator, observer and co-pilot. We hear of exercises including the lesser-known Railex/Probex, a US, French and British exercise to re-open a land corridor to West Berlin should the links be closed by Warsaw Pact forces and the British Frontier Service.
Paul’s story is again full of great anecdotes and the dangerous reality of flying low-level missions in a single-engine aircraft including a forced landing with a General on board.
0:00 Introduction and Paul's recruitment into the army air corps
1:30 Sponsor: Call for donations and listener testimonial
8:08 Discussion on practice drills and Paul's deployment to the Falklands
20:02 Surviving training and posting back to Germany
24:17 Transition to a new hangar and memorable encounter with Apache helicopters
28:34 Flying the inner German border and interception of unauthorized flights
33:42 Exercise Railex Probex: A combined US, French, and British exercise
44:08 Winning the Rolls Royce Trophy and personal experiences in the army air corps
54:24 Reflecting on the dangers of the job and the forgotten casualties of the Cold War
58:33 Importance of timing for the general's travels and emergency landing due to engine failure
1:13:59 Return to the Corps of Royal Engineers and posting back to Germany
1:21:16 Paul's sunshine tour in Gibraltar and final tours
1:21:48 Closing remarks and appreciation for patrons
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| A boy soldier in the Cold War Royal Engineers (245) | 22 Jul 2022 | 00:57:25 | |
Paul joined the Royal Engineers in 1977, aged 16 as an apprentice. We hear of his experience of joining the army at such a young age and being away from home for the first time.
After initial training his first posting was to Osnabruck in 1979. Shortly after his arrival Paul is appointed to the challenging role of driver to the Squadron Sergeant Major
With participation in exercises such as Crusader 80 and Active Edge Paul describes in detail the role of Royal Engineers in Cold War Germany, including mine laying, bridge demolition and fixed defence construction.
Paul’s story is full of great anecdotes and tales of the reality of life in the British Army of the Rhine.
Don’t miss our next episode where Paul joins the Army Air Corps and becomes an Aircrewman Observer on Gazelle helicopters along the Inner German Border.
0:00 Introduction to Paul's journey in the Royal Engineers
1:30 Request for support to keep the podcast running
2:31 Paul's early life and decision to join the army
9:14 Paul's arrival in Osnabruck and his role as a Land Rover driver
29:00 Paul's experiences in Germany and developing an affinity for the country
38:20 Preparation and expectations for exercise Crusader 80
47:00 Cooperation with German farmers during the exercises
59:00 The humanity of the Sergeant Major and the challenges of dispatch riders
35:33 Transition to engineering tasks during the Crusader 80 exercise
42:20 Paul's transition to support troop and working with REME workshop
51:01 Paul's career move and application for the Army Air Corps
52:56 Ian Sanders: Closing thoughts and reminders
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| A Mormon missionary in Cold War East Germany (244) | 14 Jul 2022 | 01:24:22 | |
In the early 1980s East Germany had just 5000 members of the Church of Latter-day Saints, many of which had been members since before World War 2.
In 1982 East German leader Erich Honecker historically allowed the church to build a temple in Freiberg and in 1988 Mormon missionaries were allowed into East Germany. Ken Brady describes his experiences as a Mormon missionary in East Germany as the country gradually disappeared and was absorbed into West Germany.
Ken also gives us a valuable view of life away from Berlin in cities such as Cottbus, Gorlitz, Schwerin, Frankfurt an der Oder and Eisenhüttenstadt. It’s a fascinating story told with humour and candour as Ken grapples with local dialects, the local food and tricks with East German currency.
0:00 Introduction and Ken Brady's early interest in East Germany
7:16 The Church's operations in East Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall
12:24 First impressions of East Germany
21:17 Fear of the Stasi after the fall of the Berlin Wall
28:18 Encounters with locals suspecting them to be CIA agents
34:19 Sightseeing and exploring local culture on days off
42:19 Guidance on political party selection and introduction of West German products
46:17 Teaching religion to those with no prior experience
56:22 Currency Unification and its impact on East Germany
1:09:00 Ken Brady's service in West Berlin
1:18:18 The stark contrast of Soviet architecture
1:21:00 Thanking the Patrons and final remarks
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| Mutiny in the East German Army (351) | 14 Jun 2024 | 00:46:02 | |
In this riveting account, Tilo recounts his experiences as an East German soldier during the final months of East Germany.
He details the rising political awareness among soldiers, and his fear that his unit will be asked to shoot on demonstrators also provides a personal perspective on the pivotal moments leading up to and following the fall of the Berlin Wall, including attending massive protests and his first visit to West Berlin.
Spurred by a broadcasted precedent of concession to striking soldiers in another barrack, Tilo and his comrades orchestrated what can only be described as a mutiny: a demand for rights, dignity, and acknowledgement of the transformative tide sweeping through East Germany.
The fall of the Berlin Wall is often recounted in grand narratives of geopolitical shifts, but regular Cold War Conversations listeners will know that it is stories like Tilo's that remind us that behind monumental changes are individuals and communities.
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| US Navy Cold War airborne electronic reconnaissance (243) | 08 Jul 2022 | 01:17:10 | |
KC flew the US Navy’s airborne Electronic Reconnaissance during the 1980s in the Lockheed EP-3 which is an electronic signals reconnaissance version of the P-3 Orion.
He flew as a Navigator, Senior Electronic Warfare Evaluator and Mission Commander.
We hear about several missions he was involved in including his first detachment to Athens the then main USN operating base for missions in the Mediterranean and the Adriatic.
We also hear about flying in the Baltic from bases in the UK (Mildenhall/Wyton) or FRG (Schleswig-Jagel). Flying from Keflavik in Iceland KC monitored a huge Soviet Navy exercise in the Norwegian Sea involving the Kiev, Kirov, and numerous cruisers, destroyers, and frigates.
In the 1980s Libya was claiming the Gulf of Sidra as its territorial waters and KC flew in support of “freedom of navigation” operations involving USN ships.
It’s a great insight into a relatively unknown part of Cold War air operations.
0:00 Introduction and KC's experience on the EP3
9:21 Focus on the Adriatic and Yugoslavia and Albania
15:24 The aftermath of the La Belle disco bomb attack and increased security measures
26:10 Busy month flying from Athens
32:27 Continuation of Cold War era aircraft in service today
36:15 The Achilles Lauro cruise ship hijacking, October 1985
54:25 Iowa class battleships and their role in the Cold War
1:02:12 KC's last flight in the Baltic
1:06:15 Instructions for landing in enemy territory
1:13:33 Cold War conversations on Facebook
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| My life laid bare through secret police files (242) | 01 Jul 2022 | 01:18:26 | |
What is it like to be under secret police surveillance? On 10 March 1983, 12-year-old Carmen Bugan returned from school to find Romanian secret police in her living room. Her father’s protest against the regime had changed her life forever.
In recent years Carmen gained access to the files of the Romanian secret police. She herself is surprised by the intimacy of the surveillance. Forgotten conversations, love letters, and arguments are all laid bare via the detailed notes taken by the Securitate. We hear the sadness of discovering friends and family members were involved in informing on them too.
Carmen and I discuss the “language of oppression”, the subtle and not-so-subtle methods used to try and ensure a compliant population but still thwarted by humanity even in the darkest recesses of the Romanian prison system.
It’s a warning from history and the meaning of freedom in current times.
0:00 Introduction of guest Carmen Bugan and her experience with the Romanian secret police
4:08 Carmen's first experience with the secret police at the age of twelve
10:55 Initial reactions to reading the secret police files and seeing recorded intimate details
18:28 Carmen's discovery of surveillance files and their impact
24:12 Carmen reads out a transcript from the files
33:57 Carmen on the conflicts stirred by the files
41:17 Carmen elaborates on why the secret police needed justifications for arrests
49:21 Carmen discusses how family members justified their involvement with the secret police
1:02:28 Carmen talks about the power of language to harm and inspire
1:13:33 Ian Sanders introduces Carmen Bugan's book and previous episode
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| Royal Military Police versus the Soviets (SOXMIS) in Cold War West Germany (241) | 24 Jun 2022 | 01:22:45 | |
Keith Bailey Joined British Army at 16 in 1973. He was recruited into the Blues and Royals, (Household Cavalry) and served in West Germany as a gunner in Chieftain tanks.
However, he was keen to serve in the Royal Military Police and particularly 19 (Support) Platoon known as "The White Mice". Their role was to track the SOXMIS (Soviet Military Mission) in West Germany.
SOXMIS operated under a 1946 agreement where the Soviets, British, US and French agreed to exchange mission groups to patrol the opposing side’s then zones of occupation.
The agreement continued to 1990 and needless to say both sides bent the rules somewhat…
0:00 Introduction
2:35 Keith Bailey's Military Career and Transition to the Royal Military Police
16:39 The Role of the RMP during the Cold War and Bailey's Experience
19:11 Joining the 19 Support Platoon and Training
23:29 The Presence of Soviet Troops in West Germany and Interactions
38:07 Soviet Intelligence Gathering and Anecdotes
43:28 Discussion about Soviet Precautions and Protocol for Crossing Sectors
51:35 Keith's Collection of Cold War Photos and Discussion on Detaining SOXMIS Vehicles
1:07:03 Reaction to the Fall of the Berlin Wall and Post-Cold War Interactions
1:18:15 Invitation to Facebook Discussion Group and Closing Remarks
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| The man who built his own nuclear bunker (240) | 17 Jun 2022 | 00:51:13 | |
Graham Bate was 30-year-old Civil Servant when he built his own nuclear bunker in the garden of his rural home 20 miles outside Hull in the UK.
It was here that the Bate family expected to survive for at least 3 weeks after a nuclear attack.
We speak with Graham Bate and his son Conrad who was 5 years old when the bunker was built and has vivid memories of the period.
0:00 Introduction and background
0:53 Guest Introduction: Graham Bate and his nuclear bunker
2:26 The inception and design of Graham's bunker
7:04 Family's experience and trial run in the bunker
13:27 Reflections on the bunker project
20:10 The family's nuclear emergency plan
29:11 Security measures and local perspectives on the bunker
32:37 Living conditions in the bunker
37:03 Graham's fame and bunker building business
43:39 Impact of the Cold War on the bunker business
46:03 Learning curve and survival in a post-apocalyptic scenario
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| Cold War number stations (239) | 10 Jun 2022 | 01:19:26 | |
You might remember listening to short wave radio during the Cold War and coming across weird transmissions of metallic voices reciting random groups of numbers through the ether. These are number stations, shortwave radio stations characterised by broadcasts of formatted numbers, which were being sent to spies operating in foreign countries.
Number stations were used widely during the Cold War and we speak with Jo Reggelt. Jo has been working with Simon Mason who was a founding member of ENIGMA, launched in the 80s after identifying several of these stations.
We discuss in detail the operations behind the transmissions and the stations themselves. You will hear some sample transmissions which Jo has kindly allowed us to use, including one with drunken Stasi officers serenading their agents after the opening of the Berlin Wall.
We also detail a UK spy case that centred on capturing an agent red-handed listening to a numbers station.
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0:00 Introduction
5:06 Overview of Number Stations
20:37 Role of Agents and Attempts to Jam Number Stations
29:51 Identification and grouping of number stations
35:20 Notable Number Stations: Lincolnshire Poacher and CIA, BND Stations
43:15 The Story of Czech Spy: Erwin Van Harlem
54:41 Number Stations in Non-Aligned and NATO Nations
1:02:26 History of South Tyrol and its Role in the Cold War
1:07:27 Impact of the End of the Cold War on Number Stations
1:12:25 Influence of Number Stations on Pop Culture
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| Air warfare in the Cold War (238) | 03 Jun 2022 | 00:54:14 | |
The Cold War years were a period of unprecedented peace in Europe, yet they also saw a number of localised but nonetheless very intense wars throughout the wider world in which air power played a vital role.
I speak with former Cold War Tornado pilot and acclaimed aviation historian Michael Napier who has written Flashpoints: Air Warfare in the Cold War published by Osprey which describes eight of these Cold War conflicts.
We discuss the wide range of aircraft types used and the development of tactics over a period of revolution in aviation technology and design which saw some of the most modern technology that the NATO and Warsaw Pact forces deployed.
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0:00 Introduction
2:08 Introduction of guest Michael Napier and discussion on the importance of personalizing conflicts
7:18 Deep dive into the Suez and Congo conflicts
14:54 Role of the UN's air force in conflicts and the impact of combat aircraft
24:08 Introduction to the Indo-Pakistan wars and the Arab-Israeli wars
34:22 The toll of war on pilots and the international nature of conflicts
35:59 Overview of the Iran-Iraq War
40:53 The Falklands War: Initial reactions, strategies, and impact
50:34 Closing remarks, acknowledgments, and store promotion
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| Arrested by the KGB and taken to the Lubyanka prison (237) | 27 May 2022 | 01:07:12 | |
Marti Peterson was the first female CIA operative to be assigned to Moscow, probably the most challenging posting during the Cold War.
Don't miss the previous episode here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode236/
This second episode turns to TRIGON, the code name for Alexandr Ogorodnik. He was an official in the Soviet Embassy in Bogota, Columbia recruited by the CIA in 1973. Marti and TRIGON never met in person, but they shared information through dead drops and intelligence. We hear about the tradecraft involved.
Marti is arrested by KGB agents and taken to Moscow's Lubyanka Prison for questioning and talks in detail about that experience.
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0:00 Introduction and Marti Peterson's role in the Cold War
2:33 Recruitment of Trigon by the CIA
10:06 Marti's first dead drop for Trigon and surveillance evasion techniques
18:24 Marti Peterson's account of her adrenaline-filled Cold War operations
24:12 The value and dissemination of Trigon's intelligence
29:55 Growing concerns about Trigon's safety and attempts to communicate
33:11 The dead drop and Marti's unexpected encounter
37:12 Marti Peterson's arrest, interrogation, and release
49:59 Marti Peterson's return to the US and the discovery of Trigon's fate
57:38 The aftermath: Trigon's unknown daughter in Bogota and his real identity
1:00:21 Marti's meeting with President Jimmy Carter
1:02:34 Episode notes, acknowledgement of financial supporters and call for donations
1:03:25 The Cold War Conversations online store
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| The first female CIA officer in Cold War Moscow (236) | 20 May 2022 | 00:58:22 | |
Marti Peterson was the first female CIA operative to be assigned to Moscow, probably the most challenging posting during the Cold War. Her story begins in Laos during the Vietnam War where she accompanied her husband John, a CIA officer. She describes their life in a small city in Laos, and the devastating news she received on October 19, 1972.
Marti returned to the United States and one night at dinner a good friend suggested she look into working for the CIA.
After making it clear to CIA recruiters that she didn’t want to be a secretary or an admin assistant they trained her to become an operative, effectively a spy. When Marti was posted to Moscow during the day, she worked as a diplomat at the U.S. Embassy. At night, on weekends and during her lunch breaks, she would report to the CIA station in the same building to do her work as an operative.
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0:00 Introduction and Marti Peterson's background
1:14 Marti Peterson's life in Moscow as a CIA operative
2:50 Marti's early life and college years
6:20 Marti's experience as a CIA wife and life in Laos
14:22 The path to becoming a CIA operative
36:50 Training and preparation for Moscow
40:10 Arrival and adaptation to life in Moscow
49:54 Social life and intelligence work in Moscow
53:31 Teaser for the next episode about Trigon
54:52 Store promotion and closing remarks
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| The 1989 World Festival of Youth and Students in Pyongyang, North Korea (235) | 13 May 2022 | 00:58:48 | |
The 13th World Festival of Youth and Students was held from 1–8 July 1989 in Pyongyang, the capital of North Korea. It was the largest international event staged in North Korea up until then.
The event took four years of preparation by the North Korean government, which effectively spent a quarter of the country's yearly budget (US$4.5 billion) on it. Ultimately declared as the largest ever World Festival of Youth and Student with about 22,000 people from 177 countries attending.
This event was the last festival held during the Cold War era as waves of unrest began to occur throughout Central and Eastern Europe later on in the year.
Greg Elmer has directed the film “The Canadian Delegation” which features long time activist Chris Frazer who was handed the task of assembling a Canadian delegation to North Korea. The film follows Frazer and a number of other delegates as they recount their participation in the Festival as world events continued to unfold around them.
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Today’s episode is hosted by co-host Peter Ryan. I am delighted to welcome Greg Elmer to our Cold War conversation…
0:00 Introduction and background of the 13th World Festival of Youth and Students
2:21 Interview with Greg Elma: The History and Politics of the Youth Festivals
9:15 Economic implications of North Korea's festival expenditures
12:06 The Canadian Delegation: Composition and Journey to Pyongyang
21:19 Festival Atmosphere and Experiences in North Korea
27:18 Delegates' Realizations and Long-Term Impact of the Festival
36:44 The Canadian Delegation's Response to Tiananmen Square
45:20 Reaction to the Film "The Canadian Delegation"
53:19 How to Access the Film on Vimeo and Future Plans
54:07 Ian Sanders' Closing Remarks and Cold War Conversations' Call to Action
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| Britain’s Cold War Human Chemical Warfare Experiments (234) | 06 May 2022 | 01:11:48 | |
Ian Foulkes was exposed to the deadly nerve agent Sarin in 1983 at the Porton Down Chemical & Biological Defence Establishment., one of the UK's most secretive and controversial military research facilities.
Ian describes in detail the process and the ill effects this caused him and shares details of a little-known fatality where 20-year-old Ronald Maddison died 45 minutes after what scientists thought was 200mg of liquid Sarin dripped onto his arm.
We also talk about the development of chemical weapons during the Cold War and the history of the Porton Down Chemical & Biological Defence Establishment.
Up to 20,000 people took part in various trials at Porton Down from 1949 up to 1989. In 2004 Maddison’s death was ruled to have been Corporate Manslaughter. The MoD withdrew a challenge to this ruling minutes before the hearing. In 2008 the MoD paid 600 veterans of the tests £8k each without admitting liability.
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0:00 Introduction and background of the 13th World Festival of Youth and Students
2:21 Interview with Greg Elma: The History and Politics of the Youth Festivals
9:15 Economic implications of North Korea's festival expenditures
12:06 The Canadian Delegation: Composition and Journey to Pyongyang
21:19 Festival Atmosphere and Experiences in North Korea
27:18 Delegates' Realizations and Long-Term Impact of the Festival
36:44 The Canadian Delegation's Response to Tiananmen Square
45:20 Reaction to the Film "The Canadian Delegation"
53:19 How to Access the Film on Vimeo and Future Plans
54:07 Ian Sanders' Closing Remarks and Cold War Conversations' Call to Action
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| Face to face with the Soviets at the Cold War Reykjavik Summit between President Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev (350) | 07 Jun 2024 | 01:10:45 | |
This episode is brought to you by the CNN Original Series Secrets & Spies: A Nuclear Game which premieres 2nd June 2024 and is available now on BBC Iplayer). The series tracks the spies operating behind the scenes in the 1980s as the Cold War brings two superpowers to the brink of nuclear war.
This razor-sharp series examines the tenuousness of global geopolitics during the Cold War and features my guest Ken Adelman who served as the Director of the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency for nearly five years during the Reagan administration.
In our episode, Ken places you face to face with the Soviets during the tense nuclear arms negotiations at the 1986 Reykjavik Summit between President Reagan and Soviet Leader Mikhail Gorbachev.
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| Flying for the CIA's Air America in South East Asia (233) | 29 Apr 2022 | 01:26:58 | |
In 1964, pilot Captain Hansen found himself unemployed. He began to send out feelers to several companies including one that had placed an ad in the Washington Post called Air America. When he was called in for an interview which primarily consisted of two questions - can you fly good and do you drink a lot.
Air America was the airline owned by the CIA. Its operations were unknown. Its schedules were irregular. Its pilots were shadow people. Its world was the world of spooks, covert air ops, adventure, and danger. Hansen would be flying in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and other locations in Southeast Asia. It could not have been a better fit for Hansen, an addicted adrenaline junkie. He would end up staying in Asia for over a decade and was fortunate enough to live to tell us about it in his book “Flight”
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0:00 Introduction of guest, Neil Hansen, and his journey with Air America
2:02 Call for financial support for the Cold War Conversations podcast
3:35 Hansen's recruitment and early experiences with Air America
13:31 Hansen's black flight missions and promotion within Air America
20:13 Hansen's unique flight training methods and handling emergencies
26:12 Planning missions and gathering intelligence in Vietnam and Laos
30:53 Hansen's first-hand account of the Tet Offensive
41:21 Navigating the dangers and challenges in Laos during the Cold War
1:00:01 Hansen's harrowing experience of being shot down and bailing out
1:04:07 The last flight out of Cambodia: Neil Hansen's escape and reflection
1:20:26 Neil Hansen's fight for recognition, his book, and concluding remarks
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| A photojournalist in Cold War Eastern Europe (232) | 22 Apr 2022 | 01:02:55 | |
During the 1970s and 1980s, Arthur Grace travelled extensively behind the Iron Curtain, working primarily for news magazines. One of only a small corps of Western photographers with ongoing access, he was able to delve into the most ordinary corners of people's daily lives, while also covering significant events. His remarkable book Communism(s) A Cold War Album is effectively psychological portraits that leave the viewer with a sense of the gamut of emotions in that era.
Illustrated with over 120 black-and-white images-nearly all previously unpublished- Communism(s) gives an unprecedented glimpse behind the veil of a not-so-distant time filled with harsh realities unseen by nearly all but those that lived through it. Shot in the USSR, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia and the German Democratic Republic, here are portraits of factory workers, farmers, churchgoers, holidaymakers and loitering teens juxtaposed with Social Realist-designed apartment blocks, annual May Day Parades, Poland's Solidarity movement (and the subsequent imposition of martial law) and the vastness of Moscow's Red Square.
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0:00 Introduction to Cold War Conversations and Arthur Grace
2:37 Sponsor: Cold War Conversations merchandise and donations
5:31 Arthur Grace's experiences in Romania
15:45 Encounters and photo opportunities in East Germany
21:23 Anti-government memorials and Solidarity movement in Poland
33:39 The art and challenges of photojournalism during the Cold War
40:42 Transition and transformation in Poland between 1982 and 1989
46:16 Reflections on Cold War assignments and favorite photographs
48:45 Anecdotes from Moscow, Warsaw and the Gobi Desert
58:11 Arthur's book
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| Escaping from Cold War Romania (231) | 15 Apr 2022 | 01:14:49 | |
Zsolt Akos Pall was 17 when he decided to flee Cold War Romania for a better life in the West.
It’s a heart-warming story of the generosity of strangers. Young Zsolt finds compassionate border guards, gets lost in Vienna and has incredible luck wherever he turns as he negotiates the iron curtain as well as many other international borders to reach his brother in Sweden
However, his escape is bittersweet as we hear of his emotional farewell to his parents, not knowing if he’d ever see them again.
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0:00 Introduction and Zolt Acos Powell's decision to flee Cold War Romania
7:52 Zolt's parents' reaction and his journey to the Hungarian border
16:00 Zolt's escape and experiences at the Hungarian border station
24:01 Zolt's journey to Vienna and his first day there
36:10 Zolt's journey from Vienna to Germany and his encounters along the way
48:06 Zolt's attempt to cross the border, arrival in Germany and journey to Stuttgart
53:02 Zolt's first impression of Hamburg
1:04:01 Zolt's arrival in Sweden and reuniting with his brother
1:07:38 The repercussions faced by Zolt's parents and their arrival in Sweden
1:10:44 Conclusion, mention of financial supporters and the Cold War Conversations store
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| A Hungarian childhood in Cold War Romania (230) | 08 Apr 2022 | 00:49:07 | |
Zsolt Akos Pall was born in a small town in the Hungarian speaking part of Romania.
For ordinary people, life in Romania in the 1980s was very hard and it could be even worse if you were a part of the Hungarian Szekler minority since the Communist government persecuted the Hungarian minority. They even made them change their Hungarian names into Romanian. Zsolt's brother was renamed Istvan to Stefan. However, Zsolt was baptised Zsolt, since there was no Romanian equivalent to it.
Zsolt describes the shortages, his schooling and many other stories of life in Romania during this period.
We end the episode with Zsolt’s plans to escape to Sweden. Don’t miss Part 2!
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0:00 Introduction and early life in Romania
2:36 Life under communism and experience of the Hungarian minority in Romania
15:56 Impact of shortages on daily life and industry
18:47 School life, propaganda, and societal structure under the regime
27:02 Cold War hobbies: Young pioneer experience and photography
32:59 Brother's journey out of Romania and Western influences
38:35 Zsolt's escape attempt and first love
41:12 Life goals in Hungary, brother's journey to Sweden, and pivotal decision
44:27 Closing remarks, acknowledgments, and sponsor mentions
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| The shooting down of KAL007, the Able Archer exercise and the nuclear war scare of 1983 (229) | 01 Apr 2022 | 01:24:14 | |
The year 1983 was one of the most dangerous in human history. While the Cuban crisis was exceptionally dangerous and both the United States and the Soviet Union had significant nuclear arsenals in 1962, a war in 1983 would have likely ended the human race.
Brian Morra was Chief of Intelligence Analysis for US Forces Japan at Yakota airbase when on 1st September 1983 an unarmed Korean airliner was shot down by a Soviet fighter causing the deaths of 269 people. He describes the less well known subsequent incidents between Soviet and US military aircraft which almost resulted in a shooting war between the two superpowers.
During this period the Soviet leadership believed the US was going to launch a nuclear attack on their country. Their paranoia was heightened by several incidents during 1983 which are dramatized in Brian’s new novel “The Able Archers”, which is based on his experiences during that period.
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Robert M. Gates, former CIA Director and Secretary of Defence describes “The Able Archers” as “a powerful reminder of the value of human judgment—and the continuing peril posed by nuclear-armed powers.”
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0:00 Introduction and background of Brian Morra
7:12 The 1983 incident involving U.S. Navy aircraft over Soviet territory
17:12 Discussion on the shooting down of the Korean airliner KAL 007
30:03 The hostile incident against the US intelligence collection aircraft
41:44 Discussion on Stanislav Petrov, the man who saved the world
56:14 Leonard Peroot's personality and professional skills and role in defusing the Able Archer 83 crisis
1:04:58 Reflection on the book's portrayal of the 3 major flashpoints of 1983
1:11:39 Recollections of decision-making during the Cold War
1:19:33 Acknowledgement of patrons and how to become a patron
1:21:03 Final goodbye
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| Charlotte Philby talks about her grandfather Soviet spy Kim Philby & her book "Edith & Kim" (228) | 26 Mar 2022 | 01:10:35 | |
In June 1934, Kim Philby met his Soviet handler, the spy Arnold Deutsch. Kim Philby was a British intelligence officer and a double agent for the Soviet Union. In 1963 he was revealed to be a member of the Cambridge Five, a spy ring that had divulged British secrets to the Soviets during World War II and in the early stages of the Cold War.
The woman who introduced Philby to Deutsch was Edith Tudor-Hart and her story has never been told.
Edith Tudor Hart changed the course of 20th-century history. Then she was written out of it.
I speak with Charlotte Philby, granddaughter of Kim Philby. Charlotte has written "Edith and Kim" which draws on the Secret Intelligence Files on Edith Tudor Hart, along with the private archive letters of Kim Philby. This finely worked, evocative and beautifully tense novel tells, for the first time, the story of the woman behind the Third Man.
We also hear from Charlotte what it was like having Kim Philby as her grandfather, including details of visits to see him in Moscow during the Cold War. It’s a fascinating insight into one of the most notorious spies of the Cold War.
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0:00 Introduction and reflections on Kim Philby's legacy
1:03 Discussion on Kim Philby and his Soviet handler, Arnold Deutsch
4:21 Exploration of Edith Tudor-Hart's life and her connection to Kim Philby
15:27 Edith Tudor-Hart's involvement in left wing politics and the rise of fascism
18:28 Gender inequalities during the Cold War
22:31 The significance of Edith's portrait in Kim's study
31:43 Charlotte's memories of Kim Philby
35:15 The impact of Kim Philby's legacy on Charlotte's career
57:55 Edith's life as depicted through her photos
1:02:19 Comparing Edith and Kim Philby's experiences in concealing their beliefs
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| The first woman to graduate from French Commando school (227) | 19 Mar 2022 | 01:18:31 | |
Maura McCormick was posted to Berlin as a Signals Intelligence voice interceptor (Russian). Her workplace was the Teufelsberg U.S. listening station, aka Field Station Berlin.
Maura shares her early impressions of Berlin and working at the Tberg. She talks about her impressions of the infamous James Hall, a United States Army warrant officer and signals intelligence analyst who sold eavesdropping and code secrets to East Germany and the Soviet Union from 1983 to 1988.
Maura also recounts a close call with Hüseyin Yıldırım, a Turkish-American auto mechanic who was a Stasi courier for the espionage activities of James Hall.
Maura often visited East Berlin where she tells of an unusually close encounter with a chimney sweep that almost resulted in an international incident.
In West Berlin, Maura became the first woman to graduate from French Commando school. The commandant had a nightly call to Paris to confirm that she had survived the day's training…
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0:00 Introduction and Maura McCormick's role in the Cold War
2:35 Interview with Maura McCormick begins
5:56 Maura's first posting in Berlin and impressions of West Berlin
16:21 Maura's interaction with Stasi spies James Hall and Hüseyin Yıldırım
24:52 Maura's acclimatization trip to East Germany and encounters
36:04 Maura's experiences in East Berlin and close encounter with East German leader
44:13 Maura's interactions with East Germans
48:40 How Maura ended up in French Commando school and her training experiences
1:00:53 Exploring Berlin through books and films
1:07:25 Accidental crossing of the border and reflections on Berlin
1:13:15 First impressions of the Berlin Wall and questioning the depth of the Cold War victory
1:14:28 Acknowledgement of the podcast's patrons and invitation to join the Facebook group
1:15:19 Closing remarks and promotion of the podcast store
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| Betrayed by comrades (226) | 12 Mar 2022 | 01:06:05 | |
Liz Kohn has been researching Alice Glasnerová, who was imprisoned as part of the early Cold War Czechoslovak show trials known as the Slansky trials.
These were among the most notorious show trials of the 20th century, with the prosecution and sentencing to death of Rudolf Slánský, general secretary of the Czechoslovak Communist party, and 10 other defendants, who had been arrested in a brutal purge ordered by Stalin.
Alice Glasnerová was Liz’s father’s first wife. When Liz started researching Alice’s life she had never seen a picture of her and had never read a word she had written. All I knew was that she had been married to her father and had been a member of the communist party. Liz has pieced together a tragic story of a couple although deeply in love, who were separated by the difference in their political views which ultimately resulted in pain, disillusion and betrayal.
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0:00 Introduction to Liz Kohn and her research on Alice Glasnerova
6:17 Alice Glasnerova's political journey and experiences in the Soviet Union
14:58 Alice's experiences in Spain and the aftermath
17:13 Alice's journey to America and the impact of Anti-Semitism
20:02 Alice's return to Czechoslovakia and involvement in the war
27:21 The communist takeover in Czechoslovakia and its impact on Alice's life
31:04 Alice's arrest and her involvement with Noel Field
43:38 The notorious Slansky trial and its outcomes
49:21 Helena's trial, imprisonment, and post-release struggles
1:00:52 Future plans for the story of Alice and Helena
1:01:59 Closing remarks, appreciation for patrons, and invitation to join the Facebook group
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| My father, the KGB spy (225) | 05 Mar 2022 | 01:23:50 | |
In 1978, Ieva Lesinska was a university student in Soviet Latvia with dreams of becoming a writer. She had just spent a heady month in New York visiting her father, Imants Lesinskis, a Soviet translator working at the United Nations. However, he was an employee of the KGB and a member of the Communist Party.
During her trip to the US, Ieva’s father informed her that he and his wife Rasma were about to defect. He offered her a blunt choice: take a taxi to the Soviet Embassy and denounce him as a traitor, or stay with him and never see her mother or her homeland of Latvia again. She chose to stay.
The new family officially became East German immigrants with new identities: Peter and Linda Dorn, and their daughter Evelyn. They were citizens of nowhere who possessed re-entry permits but no passports. In 1985, soon after Mr Lesinskis publicly disclosed confidential items on various KGB operations in Latvia, he died under mysterious circumstances.
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0:00 Introduction and story of Ieva Lesinska's parents as sleeper agents
2:26 Ieva Lesinska on her childhood and family history in Soviet Latvia
17:03 Revelation of Ieva's father's KGB affiliation and defection plans
23:02 Ieva Lesinska's journey to the United States and her decision to stay
39:13 Ieva Lesinska's adjustment to new life and identity in the US
50:13 Ieva's academic journey in the US, from Ohio State University to University of Colorado
57:42 Maintaining contact with her mother and dealing with homesickness
1:00:39 Ieva's father's mysterious death and his double life as a CIA and KGB agent
1:08:17 Reunion with her mother and her life after liberation in Latvia
1:14:04 Her story being adapted into a film and rejection of the victim narrative
1:17:41 Ieva Lesinska's current life as a journalist and translator
1:19:13 Acknowledging and thanking patrons
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| "Three, Two, one, detonation..." a Royal Navy nuclear test veteran remembers (224) | 26 Feb 2022 | 00:47:02 | |
The British Nuclear Test Veterans Association (BNTVA) is the Charity for UK Nuclear Veterans and last year they very kindly invited me to the annual conference. I met many veterans including Peter Lambourne and this is his story.
Peter joined the Royal Navy aged 15. He describes those early days including serving on HMS Wizard during the Cod War with Iceland in 1961.
In 1962 Peter was then posted to HMS Resolution which was the codename for the nuclear bomb testing base on Christmas Island.
Peter’s base was less than 20 miles away from where hydrogen bombs were being detonated and he shares his experiences of those detonations.
Many servicemen and islanders who were present at Christmas Island from 1957 to 1962 later reported severe health problems, which they attributed to the nuclear bomb tests – from cancers to organ failure. Whilst Peter’s health has appeared unaffected, his children and grandchildren have suffered from cancers.
In 2023 the UK finally awarded a medal to the nuclear test veterans.
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0:00 Introduction and Peter Lambourne's background
1:06 Peter's posting to HMS Resolution and nuclear bomb testing on Christmas Island
2:29 Call for podcast support and donations
3:33 Peter's experience in the Cod War with Iceland and posting to Christmas Island
12:10 Witnessing hydrogen bomb detonations on Christmas Island
17:06 The terrifying contingency plans and impracticality of their landing crafts
21:01 Lack of protective clothing and radiation tracking
24:33 Recreational activities and dynamics of the Navy group on Christmas Island
29:47 The mystery of the "big black line" in Peter's service record and the classified nature of the mission
34:05 The health effects of radiation exposure and the government's avoidance of liability
38:09 Reflections on Christmas Island as part of Peter's naval career
42:57 Closing remarks and thanks to patrons
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The British Nuclear Test Veterans Association (BNTVA) is the Charity for UK Nuclear Veterans https://www.bntva.com/
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| The President’s Kill List - Assassination and US Foreign Policy since 1945 (349) | 31 May 2024 | 00:49:36 | |
Luca Trenta is an associate professor at Swansea University and has recently authored The President's Kill List: Assassination and US Foreign Policy Since 1945. We dig in detail into the contents of the book delving into the history of Cold War CIA operations including instances of electoral interference and assassination.
Our conversation explores key historical episodes, including U.S. actions in Italy, Cuba, Chile, and assassinations in the context of the Cold War.
Case studies feature notable figures such as Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Salvador Allende and René Schneider. Our discussion includes the impact of investigative journalism, the intricacies of covert planning, and the eventual exposure of these actions.
Luca also shares his personal story of a memorable dinner with former President Jimmy Carter.
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| The Stasi Poetry Circle (223) | 19 Feb 2022 | 01:07:31 | |
In 1982 the East German Ministry for State Security is hunting for creative new weapons in the war against the class enemy – and their solution is stranger than fiction. Rather than guns, tanks, or bombs, the Stasi develop a programme to fight capitalism through rhyme and verse, winning the culture war through poetry – and the result is the most bizarre book club in history.
I speak with Philip Oltermann the author of The Stasi Poetry Circle. Philip has used unseen archival material and exclusive interviews with surviving members to tell the incredible hidden story of a unique experiment: weaponising poetry for politics.
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0:00 Introduction with Philip Oltermann
6:09 Discussion on GDR's policies towards arts and culture
13:22 The Stasi's involvement with writing circles and their shift in approach
21:01 Role of poetry and culture as a weapon in the Cold War
28:37 The story of Annegret Gollin and Stasi's fear of subversive literature
34:57 Stasi's recruitment process and the impact on Annegret Gollin.
39:03 Introduction to Alexander Ruika, a talented poet and spy
44:27 Discussion on the fear of nuclear war in the 1980s
49:39 Introduction to Uwe Berger, the teacher of the Stasi poetry circle
57:43 The decline of the GDR and impact on the writing circle
1:02:13 Book giveaway announcement
1:03:12 Acknowledgement of the podcast's patrons and promotion of the Facebook group
1:06:03 Closing remarks and promotion of the podcast's store
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| The start of the Cuban revolution & the launch of Apollo 8 (222) | 16 Feb 2022 | 00:35:55 | |
The phrase “history is human” was coined by two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning author and historian David McCullough. He says “History is about life. It isn't just about dates and quotations from obscure treaties and the like; it's about people", which is exactly what Cold War Conversations is about.
I discovered this phrase listening to the History Daily podcast presented and narrated by Lindsay Graham. This podcast takes you back in time to explore a momentous moment that happened "on this day" in history using fully immersive, sound design, original music and a compelling narrative style.
I really enjoy it and I'm sure you will too. I am sharing two short Cold War episodes on this bonus episode. If think you'd enjoy the History Daily podcast follow or subscribe by searching “History Daily Podcast”. or click on this link https://pod.link/1591095413
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| Cold War British Army fighting tactics in West Germany (221) | 12 Feb 2022 | 01:05:13 | |
Frank Baldwin was commissioned into the Royal Artillery in 1979 and served for ten years, rising to the rank of Major. The first battlefield study he planned was in 1989 for HQ 4th Armoured Division. Since then, he has been a guide or historian for over 200 realities of war tours, battlefield studies and staff rides.
Frank reels off lots of great anecdotes as he takes us through the initial years of the BAOR and the British Army’s plans for the defence of West Germany.
He talks about the evolution of doctrines, on both the Soviet and NATO sides including their nuclear war-fighting techniques.
Frank also describes working with Warsaw Pact observers of NATO military exercises and the British view of the effectiveness of other NATO armies as well as the armies of the Warsaw Pact.
Maps and material to accompany this episode are here https://www.staffrideservices.com/?p=461
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Story of a BAOR Cold war tour
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Frank Baldwin's blog The Observation Post
0:00 Introduction and overview of the episode
2:37 Discussion on the planning and strategy during the Cold War
8:50 The concept of flexible response and the shift in NATO's planning
19:39 Tactics and maneuvers in the face of Russian forces
27:14 The Battle Group trainer and war simulation
33:04 Introduction of CSC and Stockholm agreement, and experiences during Iron Hammer exercise
37:07 Interaction with officers from the Warsaw pact and insights into Russian training methods
46:23 Perception of East Germans and experiences in East Germany
53:00 Post-cold war British army engagements and core values
56:31 Civilian evacuation during the Cold War and the role of German transport
1:00:34 Supporter acknowledgement and episode closing
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