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Have you ever felt like you had to “just accept” whatever life throws your way—even while your heart was breaking inside? Maybe someone told you it’s unfaithful to question God, or maybe you’ve wondered if it’s even allowed to be honest about your hurt and confusion. Here’s the truth: almost every believer will face moments when trusting God feels like a wrestling match.

This week on CHRISTIAN PARENT/CRAZY WORLD, we’re tackling the question no one wants to say out loud, but secretly we all wrestle with: 

Is it wrong to wrestle with God—or is it where the deepest faith is forged?

In a culture that prizes tidy answers and smooth faith, Christian parents are invited into the messier reality: honest struggle with God may be the most faithful response to life’s hardest moments.

For this conversation, host Catherine welcomes her two closest friends—licensed Christian counselor Dr. Erin Barry and certified trauma coach Susan Frost—for a raw, unscripted conversation about wrestling with God through pain, disappointment, and unanswered prayers. Drawing from years of theological dialog, personal loss, and journeys through suffering, they invite listeners to pull up a chair and experience what true biblical wrestling looks like in real life.

Meet the Guests

• Dr. Erin Barry is a licensed clinical Christian counselor with decades of experience walking with individuals and families through seasons of pain, loss, and transformation. Together with her husband, she has devoted her life to ministry in marriage, worship, and family discipleship.

• Susan Frost is a certified trauma-informed life coach, deeply involved in hands-on ministry and mentoring with her husband. She’s helped individuals and couples process grief, trauma, and confusing seasons through godly wisdom—and is a trusted friend in the trenches.

Highlights from This Episode

• The Permission to Wrestle:

  • Catherine opens up about the tension many Christians feel—faith says “trust God’s sovereignty,” but scripture shows us heroes who bring anguish, confusion, and raw complaints to God (00:41).

  • Biblical foundation: Jacob literally wrestles with God and is changed forever, marked both by his limp and by a deeper relationship (16:46, 18:12).

• Pain Is Not a Faith Failure:

  • Erin unpacks how genuine suffering alters us—those who have wrestled with God often walk with humility, vulnerability, and new spiritual authority (18:12).

  • Susan challenges the myth that “God’s going to do what He wants, no matter what.” Instead, God invites us into hard questions, purposeful struggle, and partnership in pursuit of His blessings (21:11).

• What Real Support Looks Like:

  • The trio addresses how to choose safe “inner circle” people—and why it’s vital to avoid those who try to fix, minimize, or judge faith in the midst of pain.

  • Erin notes different people offer distinct support—some handle logistics, others shoulder emotional weight. Both matter (32:30).

  • Why most of us want to “tidy up” suffering, even for others—and why letting friends sit in the pain is a profound act of love (36:33).

• When the Small Things Break Us:

  • Catherine shares a vulnerable story: after seasons spent praying for healing and witnessing loss, it was a friend’s lost cats—the seemingly “small” tragedy—that finally broke her down (41:24).

  • The group examines why sometimes, it’s the little heartbreaks that trigger our deepest questions about God’s goodness and presence with our children (44:50).

• Wrestling vs. Losing Hope:

  • Erin distinguishes healthy wrestling (honest emotion, always turning back to God) from true despair (turning away, hardening the heart, or numbness through addiction) (59:00).

  • Susan gives voice to the ongoing question every Christian parent faces: “Is God really good to my kids?”—and why we become “prisoners of hope” (01:03:28).

A Standout Quote

“I don’t think that makes you a bad believer. I think that makes you an honest believer. The goal isn’t to wrestle away from God. It’s to wrestle our way toward Him.” — Catherine (05:43)

Key Takeaway

Wrestling with God is not a sign of weak faith but of honest, living faith. The biblical story—and the journeys of today’s faithful—show that lamenting, questioning, and even being angry with God can actually draw us closer to Him, giving us a deeper walk, lasting humility, and eventual hope. Sitting with our questions and pain—especially in the company of safe, truth-speaking friends—can transform our suffering into spiritual growth and resilience for our children to witness.

Why This Matters

In a world that wants quick answers and “perfect” Christianity, our kids (and we ourselves) need permission to bring our real struggles to God. Modeling honest faith—especially through disappointment—teaches the next generation that God is big enough for all our questions, aches, and doubts. Wrestling is not failure; it’s formation.

For Christian parents: When your children hit confusing pain or watch you walk through it, what do they see? Can you show them a faith that survives real wrestling—and ultimately emerges with deeper hope?

Episode Links

• inseparableLives.com – More about Dr. Erin Barry and her ministry.

• Yes, You Can Homeschool! The Terrified Parent’s Companion To Homeschool Success – Buy on Amazon

• Catherine’s Free Parenting Resources

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Can You Really Teach Your Kids to Study the Bible—If You Don’t Feel Confident Yourself? The “Step by Step” Method to a Lifetime of Scripture Confidence

For generations, Christian parents have been told to center their homes and hearts on God’s Word, yet few have ever been taught how to truly study it—let alone guide their children to do the same. If you’ve ever felt insecure, intimidated, or unqualified when opening your Bible, this episode is for you.

Join host Catherine and special guest Angie Baughman, founder of Steady On Ministries and developer of the Step by Step Bible Study Method, as they offer an empowering, conversation-driven crash course on making Bible study accessible, life-giving, and transformational for the whole family—from toddlers to teens and beyond.

Meet the Guest: Angie Baughman

• Angie Baughman is a lifelong Bible teacher and the founder of Steady On Ministries, an organization passionate about rooting believers—especially parents—in the practical skills needed to stay anchored in God’s Word.

• With over 28 years of ministry, a powerful personal testimony, and tools used by everyone from school children to inmates, Angie created the Step by Step Bible Study Method to break down barriers and open Scripture to all experience levels.

Highlights from This Episode

• Why So Many Christians Feel Insecure About Bible Study
  Angie and Catherine discuss the lack of mentorship in church culture, the intimidation factor of unfamiliar terms, and the universal fear of “looking stupid,” even among lifelong believers 07:02.

• The Power of Slowing Down
  Through vulnerable stories, the hosts reveal how shame and insecurity can keep women (and men) silent—and how authentic community and gentle tools provide an accessible on-ramp for everyone, including the “Tracys” in our Bible studies 08:47.

• A Practical Walkthrough—Step by Step
  Angie unveils her 5-step study method, combining word study, translation comparison, biblical context, enemy-lie discernment, and personal application—transforming even a single verse into spiritual nourishment lasting all day 17:54.

• Real-Life Application
  In a powerful demonstration, Catherine shares how a familiar verse (Psalm 40:2) deepened through the method, revealing unexpected layers (did you know “rock” can mean “fortress”?) and helping her battle anxiety and pray more purposefully for her children 29:38.

• Equipping the Next Generation
  Detailed guidance on using the method with kids of all ages, from letting them pick words to discovering the lies of the enemy—a perfect fit for family devotions, homeschool routines, or real-life spiritual conversations 46:15.

• Accessible Resources for All
  Details on free step-by-step kits, family tools, and online communities so that every parent—no matter their background—can confidently open God’s Word and invite their children into the adventure.

Standout Quote

“Pastors and Bible teachers can share what the Holy Spirit said to them. But they cannot tell us what the Holy Spirit says to us when we study. That’s why it’s so important for us to have the skills to go into the Word on our own.” — Angie

Key Takeaway

No matter your past, education, or current insecurity, you can confidently unlock the treasures of Scripture—for yourself and your children. It doesn’t require expertise—just willingness, a doable method, and the expectation that the Holy Spirit will meet you—and your family—right where you are.

Why This Matters

In a culture obsessed with spiritual shortcuts and superficial understanding, Christian parents face a vital task: not just filling minds with Bible facts, but modeling for their families how to slow down, ask questions, and hear directly from God’s Word. The “Step by Step” approach isn’t just another study method—it’s an invitation into deeper relationship, radical honesty, and intergenerational faith that flourishes through every season.

Episode Links

• Steady On Ministries & Free Bible Study Starter Kit: livesteadyon.com

• Angie Baughman’s Step by Step Family Kit & more: Steady On Ministries (see “Free Resources” tab)

• Catherine’s Parenting Resources: https://catherinesegars.com/resources

Call to Action

Christian parents, what’s keeping you from digging into God’s Word alongside your kids? What might change—for you and your children—if you stepped onto the “on ramp” and discovered the richness of Scripture one word at a time?

Share your story or your next step with us using #ChristianParentCrazyWorld, and consider inviting your children to join you in the adventure of discovering God’s Word—step by step.

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What if your child’s screen time could help them meet Jesus, shape their character, and spark conversations that last a lifetime?

In a culture overflowing with children’s entertainment, how can Christian parents find programming that does more than distract or “babysit”? In this compelling episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine sits down with Jess Wolstenholm, Vice President of Education & Publishing at Minno and editor of the award-winning Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids. With over 25 years of children’s ministry leadership and deep roots in curriculum development, Jess Wolstenholm brings powerful insights into how media can nourish—not just occupy—our children’s souls.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• A Better Media Diet for Kids
  Why “just clean” isn’t enough. Catherine and Jess break down the difference between spiritually “nutritious” content and empty-calorie screen time. They challenge parents to curate what their children watch, seeking stories that reinforce godly character and biblical truth rather than just avoid harm.

• Faith Formation through Storytelling
  Discover how a child’s earliest glimpses of God shape their faith journey, and why representing God’s character—holy, loving, nurturing, and present—is essential from the very start. Jess Wolstenholm shares how programming choices directly impact a child’s understanding of God, values, and themselves.

• Representation Matters—Even for Young Faith
  “There’s not enough representation of faith on screen for kids.” Hear how Minno creates and curates media—like the innovative Young David shorts—that let children see relatable, not cheesy, portrayals of Christian life. Find out why seeing faith lived out on screen can be just as important as hearing Bible stories.

• Old Treasures, New Purpose
  Relive childhood favorites like VeggieTales and discover impactful series like Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith and Liberty’s Kids—all available on Minno. Whether it's vintage animation or state-of-the-art storytelling, these programs offer rich entry points for conversations about faith, history, and courage.

• Tools for Intentional Parenting
  Learn how to turn media moments into meaningful faith conversations. From five-minute family devotionals to printable discussion guides and screen-free audio options, Jess Wolstenholm shares practical ways for parents to build on what their children watch—even when life gets busy.

“We want kids to get to know the character of God—not just as a rule-keeper, but as a creator who delights in them.” – Jess Wolstenholm

• What Sets Minno Apart
  Find out how Minno’s holistic, on-screen/off-screen approach (think: devotionals, conversation guides, coloring pages, and audio stories) is designed to support busy Christian parents and equip the next generation for a resilient, relational faith.

• A Hopeful Vision for Gen Alpha
  Jess Wolstenholm shares her dream for the next generation: that children would “know Jesus and understand His word,” not through shame or rule-keeping, but with a healthy, balanced grasp of gospel truth and the goodness of God.

Notable Moments:

• The surprising connection between the word “Minno” and abiding in Christ.

• How “vintage” content like Torchlighters and Liberty’s Kids help children step outside the “first world bubble” and see global faith and history.

• Simple questions parents can ask after screen time to spark deep, everyday discipleship.

Why This Matters:
Your child’s view of God, their character, and their choices are being shaped by what fills their hearts and minds each day. What if the shows they watch could help you disciple them, not just distract them?

Modern Application:
Let’s intentionally leverage media as a springboard for spiritual formation. Whether you find a new family devotional routine or simply ask one more question at the dinner table, these conversations could echo for years.

About the Guest:
Jess Wolstenholm is Vice President of Education & Publishing at Minno, editor and executive producer of the Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, and a seasoned leader in children’s ministry and publishing. She is passionate about equipping Christian families to nurture healthy, lifelong faith.

Ready to turn your child’s screen time into soul time? What steps can you take this week to make sure the shows your kids watch are helping them experience Jesus—every single day? Dive into this episode and discover resources that could transform your family’s faith journey.

Episode Links & Resources

• Minno Streaming Platform (Try Free!)

• Featured Series: Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith, Young David

• Bonus: Free 7-day trial and downloadable devotionals for families

• Catherine Segars Resources

Listen, reflect, and join the conversation—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.

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What if the core purpose of your parenting isn’t what you’ve always believed? In a world obsessed with outcomes and control, Christian parents are challenged to embrace a radical shift: letting go of ownership and stepping into the liberating role of an ambassador for Christ in their children’s lives.

In this transformative episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine welcomes Candace Nassar, founder and executive director of MomQ, a mentor-led discipleship ministry designed to equip Christian mothers with biblical wisdom for every season. Drawing from her own journey from a secular background to devoted Christ-follower, Candace Nassar offers authentic insight and practical encouragement, inviting parents to rethink how—and why—they parent.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Redefining the Mission: Purposeful Parenting

• Why it’s easy to skip over the “why” of parenting and focus on performance or success (00:22)

• The critical distinction between “ownership parenting” and “ambassador parenting”—and how this shift can transform your family (02:06, 25:56)

A Testimony of Transformation

• Candace Nassar’s powerful story: from a broken home and secular ambitions to surrendering everything for Christ and discovering her true identity as a mother (04:49, 13:04)

• The generational impact when one mother bravely says “yes” to God

Cultural Pressure & Parental Stress—Setting a New Foundation

• Why our culture pushes parents to control, manage, and perform—and how this leads to overwhelming stress, anxiety, and fear (19:36)

• How social media and comparison culture fuel burnout and feelings of inadequacy

Trust vs. Control: Finding Freedom

• “Control is what I tend to when I’m struggling to trust.” How to spot control creeping into your parenting, even in well-intentioned moments (29:41)

• Practical red flags: When anxiety spikes, it may be a sign you’re crossing the line into ownership (39:01)

Ambassador Parenting: The Heart of Christ at Home

• Candace Nassar shares how parenting as Christ’s ambassador reframes discipline, discipleship, and daily rhythms (41:32)

• “Gentle firmness”: Rejecting harsh authoritarianism and passive permissiveness by modeling the compassion and boundaries of Jesus (46:45)

• Infusing faith into the ordinary—dinnertime reflections, spontaneous prayers, and seeing God in daily moments (48:56)

Moving Forward: Grace and Growth

• Step-by-step guidance for moms convicted by ownership parenting—beginning with honest reflection and a prayer: “Lord, search my heart. Show me where I’m trying to control, and help me trust you more.” (52:05)

• Key takeaway: The ultimate goal is not to raise successful children, but kingdom-minded disciples who love and serve the Lord (55:21)

Standout Quotes:

• “If we get the foundation wrong, even with the best intentions, we can end up striving for outcomes that were never ours to control.” — Catherine

• “When we realize our children aren’t ours to own but to steward for God, it changes everything.” — Candace Nassar

• “Control is an illusion. If we can’t trust God with our kids, parenting becomes exhausting.” — Candace Nassar

About the Guest:
Candace Nassar is the founder and executive director of MomQ and a passionate mentor to Christian moms nationwide. With a background in business and education, and extensive ministry experience, she helps mothers move from striving and self-reliance to purpose and grace-grounded parenting. Learn more about MomQ’s curriculum and resources at momq.org.

Why This Matters:
In a culture that judges parents by their children’s achievements, our faith calls moms and dads to trade anxiety and control for the freedom and fruitfulness of ambassador parenting—reflecting the heart of Christ at home.

Modern Application:
Parents, where are you tempted to “own” your children’s path, and where could you invite God’s grace to take the lead? Get candid, reflect honestly, and begin the journey from anxiety to trust today.

EPISODE LINKS:

• MomQ, Biblical Wisdom for Christian Moms

• MomQ Podcast (available on all major platforms)

Call to Action:
How might your relationship with your child—and with God—change if you made the daily choice to become His ambassador instead of their owner? Share your thoughts, questions, or breakthroughs with us by tagging #ChristianParentCrazyWorld on social media. Tune in, reflect, and step into this new, freeing vision of parenting today.

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Teen suicide is a subject no parent ever wants to face—but in today’s world, it’s a crisis that cannot be ignored. In this heartrending and hope-filled "Best Of" episode, Catherine sits down with featured guest Emma Benoit, a vibrant young woman whose hidden battle with anxiety led to a suicide attempt that changed her life forever, and with expert guest Jennifer Ellers, a Christian counselor and crisis responder specializing in youth suicide prevention.

Host Catherine brings listeners a gripping and candid conversation about the epidemic of teen suicide—a tragedy impacting families in every community. With staggering statistics showing suicide as the second leading cause of death among young people, the need for awareness and action has never been greater.

Special Guests:

• Emma Benoit: Once a vibrant, high-achieving varsity cheerleader, Emma survived a self-inflicted gunshot wound at 16. Paralyzed from the waist down, Emma has transformed her pain into purpose, becoming a passionate advocate for mental health and suicide prevention.

• Jennifer Ellers: Christian counselor, crisis responder, trainer, and author specializing in youth suicide prevention. Jennifer’s insights bridge clinical expertise with faith-based hope.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Emma’s Hidden Battle
Hear Emma Benoit candidly recount how crippling anxiety and private pain led her to the brink—while outwardly, no one suspected she was suffering. “No one knew...because I was ashamed of it,” she shares, highlighting the dangerous power of stigma and secrecy (08:17).

Warning Signs & Early Intervention
Jennifer Ellers unpacks what every parent needs to know: the evolving age of onset (with cases now seen as young as six years old!), the often-masked signs of distress, and why honest, nonjudgmental conversations are the most important tool parents possess (10:12).

The Seductive Lie of Suicide
Both Emma Benoit and the experts stress that “no one wants to end their life—they want to end their pain.” The moment after her attempt, Emma was flooded with regret—a pattern echoed by many survivors. Suicide is rarely about death, but the desperate desire for relief (22:31).

The Spiritual Battle Beneath the Surface
Catherine, Emma Benoit, and Jennifer Ellers break the silence on the spiritual warfare at play—how despair is more than physical or emotional, but a real assault on hope itself. “You won’t convince me there’s not a spiritual component… that voice, that seduction, I absolutely believe is Satan,” Jennifer Ellers declares (34:56).

Hope, Healing, and Taking Action
This episode is not just a call to awareness—it’s a message of hope. Emma’s road to recovery, both physically and spiritually, is nothing short of miraculous. She offers a lifeline to every young person listening: “It’s okay to feel that way. Just hang in there. It gets better, and hope is so real” (40:34).

Practical Guidance for Parents:

• Ask the uncomfortable questions, openly and directly.

• Cultivate an environment where feelings are named and normalized.

• Treat mental health as a body, mind, AND spirit issue—seek help, including professional and faith-based support.

• If there is a threat of harm, remove potential means and seek immediate intervention.

Notable Moments:

“Death isn’t what [the suicidal] are after—it’s the escape from the turmoil and pain.” – Emma Benoit
“It’s a mind, body, spirit issue. If you leave out any one aspect, you’re not treating the whole person.” – Jennifer Ellers
“God has a plan to deliver everyone. We have to submit to His prescription, whatever that means.” – Catherine

About the Guests:
Emma Benoit shares her story widely through My Ascension, a documentary shown in schools and communities across the country. Jennifer Ellers is a leader in Christian counseling and crisis intervention, affiliated with the American Association of Christian Counselors.

Connect & Resources:

• Learn more about Emma’s mission and the My Ascension film: myascension.us

• Find counseling and suicide prevention resources: aacc.net

• In a crisis? Call or text 988 for immediate help.

• List of Scriptures to pray over those struggling with mental illness: Catherine's Resources

PARENT CHALLENGE:
Are you willing to look beneath the surface and have the hard conversations? This week, ask your child—even if they seem “fine”—how they’re really feeling. What would happen if you treated emotional pain as seriously as physical pain, and taught your family to do the same?

Listen now, and help bring hope into the darkness—because as Christian parents, we are called to fight for life, truth, and healing for our children.

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There’s an invisible crisis happening right before our eyes—men are suffering in silence, and too often, the warning signs go unseen until it’s too late. In this raw and deeply personal episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine confronts the urgent mental health struggles facing the men and boys we love most.

Following a heartbreaking loss in her own circle—a former student and friend of her son who took his own life—Catherine welcomes accomplished physician and public health leader Dr. Tyler Evans to the show. With over four decades of crisis response in 110 countries and expertise in infectious diseases and addiction medicine, Dr. Tyler Evans shines a light on the hidden epidemic of men’s mental health.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Staggering Statistics: Four out of five suicides in the U.S. occur among men—why are their cries for help so often missed?

• Root Causes Unmasked: Dr. Tyler Evans breaks down the key drivers, including emotional suppression, cultural pressures, “emotional illiteracy,” and the uniquely lethal methods men often choose in a crisis.

• Signs You Can’t Ignore: Learn how to spot the subtle and overt behavioral changes, increased substance use, and other red flags that surface before a crisis moment.

• Practical Ways to Show Up: Catherine and Dr. Tyler Evans discuss actionable strategies—asking reflectively, listening without judgment, staying connected, and reducing access to lethal means.

• Parenting Through Prevention: How can Christian parents—especially mothers—foster emotional intelligence in boys, help break generational cycles of silence, and make space for “big feelings” in everyday conversations?

• Faith as a Lifeline: Catherine reminds listeners of the power of prayer and the importance of turning to Scripture, partnership with Christian counselors, and supporting one another in faith.

Notable Episode Moments:

• Dr. Tyler Evans explains the difference in suicide methods and why men’s emotional struggles so often go undocumented—and therefore untreated—at 07:41.

• “Giving men permission can come with such a sigh of relief,” Dr. Tyler Evans urges at 21:00, championing persistence and compassion over confrontation.

• The vital role of removing lethal means like firearms or dangerous medications during acute crises is emphasized at 30:38.

• “It is not too late to break generational cycles,” Dr. Tyler Evans encourages parents at 25:21, pointing to signs of hope among Gen Z and Gen Alpha.

Why This Matters:
This episode isn’t just about statistics—it’s a call for Christian parents to become vigilant, compassionate first responders in their own homes and communities. The silence must be broken, and the cycles of emotional isolation interrupted, for the sake of our husbands and sons.

Modern Application:
Are you nurturing an atmosphere where your sons and husbands can share their deepest feelings? Are you ready to ask uncomfortable questions and respond with grace, even when it's hard? As believers, let’s lead the charge in seeing and supporting the men in our lives, before another tragedy takes place.

About the Guest:
Dr. Tyler Evans is an infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, and public health leader, author of Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics, and the former Chief Medical Officer for NYC’s COVID-19 response. He currently leads Wellness Equity Alliance, focusing on accessible mental health care for all.

Connect with Dr. Tyler Evans:

• wellnessequityalliance.com

• drtylerevansmd.com

• Book: Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics (Johns Hopkins University Press)

EPISODE LINKS:

• National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Dial 988

• Scripture list for parents praying for mental health (on Catherine’s website)

Thought-Provoking Question for Listeners:
Are you creating space for the men in your life—sons, husbands, brothers, fathers—to admit when they’re not okay? What intentional steps will you take today to foster emotional honesty, offer support, and build a family culture where struggles are seen and hope is never out of reach?

Don’t miss this crucial conversation—and be sure to share it with someone who needs it most.

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How Can a Good God Allow So Much Evil and Suffering? Wrestling with the Toughest Question in Faith

For many parents—and for the next generation—one question stands above the rest as the #1 barrier to Christian belief: If God is good and all-powerful, why does He allow evil and suffering in the world? This episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World dives bravely into that profound dilemma, equipping parents to address their children’s toughest doubts and their own deepest struggles.

Join host Catherine as she sits down with Dr. Douglas Groothuis, one of the most respected minds in Christian apologetics. Dr. Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University, and the author of over 20 books, including the acclaimed Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith. Beyond his accolades, listeners will be moved by Dr. Groothuis’s personal journey through heartbreak and grief, offering a unique blend of intellectual rigor and heartfelt empathy.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Why Every Worldview Faces the Problem of Evil
  Dr. Groothuis breaks down why not just Christianity, but every philosophy—atheism, pantheism, secularism—must wrestle with the existence of evil. Discover how Christianity uniquely anchors the concepts of good and evil.

• A Personal Journey Through Suffering
  In a moving account, Dr. Groothuis shares how the loss of his brilliant wife Rebecca to dementia challenged—and deepened—his faith, giving listeners a firsthand look at trusting God in the depths of pain 16:55.

• The “Greater Good” and Soul-Making
  Explore the idea that God can use pain, loss, and evil for a greater good—one we may not fully see from our limited vantage. As Dr. Groothuis says, “I can trust the God who I know for the things I can’t understand” 16:49.

• Lament: Biblical Permission to Grieve with God
  The conversation tackles the Biblical tradition of lament—bringing our confusion, anger, and sorrow honestly to God. Dr. Groothuis points to the Psalms and the disciples’ struggles, reminding us that doubt and pain are not signs of weak faith, but invitations to deeper trust 31:19.

• Answering Teens’ Toughest Questions
  From why God couldn’t create a world with free will and no evil, to whether evil actually exists, the episode tackles real questions from young people with honesty, logic, and compassion.

• Heaven: The True Hope for Suffering Believers
  Dr. Groothuis illuminates the ultimate Christian hope—a new heavens and new earth where suffering is redeemed, not forgotten, and God’s presence is our deepest joy 54:56.

Notable Moments & Quotes:

• “I can trust the God who I know is there for the things that I can’t understand.” — Dr. Groothuis

• “Every worldview has a problem with evil—it’s not just Christianity.” — Dr. Groothuis

• “Jesus is the only one who has the words of life.” — Catherine 01:02:51

• “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.” — CS Lewis, quoted by Catherine 44:37

• “Where else are we going to go? Nothing else will satisfy.” — Catherine reflecting on Peter’s words 35:06

Why This Matters:
For Christian parents, the challenge of suffering is not just an abstract question—it strikes at the heart of faith formation in our families. This episode arms parents with both deeply reasoned answers and encouragement to walk alongside their children in seasons of doubt, suffering, or loss.

Modern Application:
No home is untouched by suffering. Parents, are you equipped to guide your children through questions about God’s goodness in a hurting world? Can your family find meaning in pain, and hold onto hope in hardship?

About the Guest:
Dr. Douglas Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University and the author of over 20 books, including Christian Apologetics and Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness—A Philosopher’s Lament. His insights come not only from scholarly study, but from a heart acquainted with sorrow and a faith refined by fire.

EPISODE LINKS:

• Dr. Groothuis' Website

• Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith

• Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness—A Philosopher’s Lament

• Truth Tribe Podcast with Dr. Groothuis

• Emerging Gen Z May Deliver Huge Blow to Religion in U.S. (Baptist News Global, 6/8/18)

Thought-Provoking Question:
How is your family responding to the painful “why” questions of life? Are you willing to walk with your children into the hard places—and point them toward the only One who holds the words of life?

Tune in for an episode that will challenge, comfort, and equip you to lead your family with courageous faith—even when the answers aren’t easy.

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At some point, every Christian parent finds themselves facing “giants” — immense obstacles and seemingly impossible circumstances that stand between them and God’s promises. How you respond in these moments determines whether you move forward into the life God intends, or let fear and discouragement hold you back.

In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine invites listeners into her own challenging season—her husband’s unexpected job loss, a year of solo parenting, and a disastrous home renovation that threatened to derail everything. With remarkable honesty, Catherine unpacks the real struggles families encounter as they pursue God’s calling in the midst of overwhelming adversity.

But this episode is more than a story of hardship. Catherine shares six powerful, actionable steps for any believer facing a giant—whether in their marriage, career, finances, health, or faith:

1. Gain God’s Perspective: When circumstances look hopeless, seek to see your situation through God's eyes—not just the intimidating physical realities (08:01). Drawing inspiration from Elisha’s story in 2 Kings 6, Catherine encourages listeners to pray for spiritual vision that reveals God’s power at work beyond what’s visible.

2. Keep Your Eyes on God, Not the Enemy: It’s tempting to focus on the size of your problems, but victory comes from fixing your gaze on the God who is bigger than any obstacle (13:10). Stories of Moses and Peter remind us that fear grows when we focus on the enemy, but faith grows when we focus on God.

3. Find Your Fight Songs: Worship is a weapon. Catherine describes how building a playlist of battle songs, like "Greater is He" by Blanca, helped her replace fear with hope—even when nothing changed externally (18:09). She urges parents to let worship shape their outlook during trials.

4. Gather Your Weapons: Know and wield the Word of God. Catherine describes creating lists of personalized scriptures to pray daily over her children, her family, and her battles. She emphasizes the importance of having these spiritual “weapons” ready before the fight comes (22:41).

5. Partner in Prayer: Giants don’t fall through solo efforts—find others to pray with and for you. Whether it’s a spouse, small group, or prayer team, uniting faith with others shifts the battle (27:08).

6. Speak to Your Giant—Prophesy Its Future: Refuse to agree with the enemy’s narrative. Catherine recounts how publicly rejecting the enemy’s threats and speaking agreement with God’s promises led to unexpected breakthroughs—in her bathroom remodel, in her home sale, and in her family’s future (31:05). She clarifies: this isn’t “name it, claim it” theology, but the biblical principle of aligning your words and faith with God's revealed plan rather than fear.

By sharing her vulnerability, setbacks, and ultimate victories, Catherine both comforts and challenges parents: your fight with giants is part of God’s story for you. This episode provides not only encouragement, but also a spiritual toolkit you can use immediately—so you can keep moving toward God’s promises, no matter how daunting the battle seems.

Resources and Further Support

• Free scripture resources and faith-building tools available at Catherine’s website

• Blanca "Greater Is He"

For any parent standing at their own “Red Sea,” this episode equips you to see beyond your current circumstances, lean into practical faith, and trust the God who is always greater than your giant.

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Too often, our entire healthcare system is designed to chase symptoms, not solutions. We numb the pain, mask the problem, and patch the visible cracks—rarely pausing to dig for the real reason something is wrong. But what if this approach is quietly failing our children and families, creating lifelong challenges where there could have been correction and healing?

In this memorable episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked arenas where symptom-chasing can rob families of true wellness: our children’s oral and airway health during sleep. Bringing practical wisdom, expert insight, and personal experience, Catherine is joined by Dr. Kallie Hale—one of the country’s leading dentists specializing in dental sleep medicine and airway health.

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Meet the Guest:
Dr. Kallie Hale is the co-founder and Chief Clinical Officer of The Airway Dentists and the founder of Tooth Pillow, a teledentistry platform helping families nationwide address airway-related root causes of health issues. With a national speaking career and a passion for pediatric sleep-disordered breathing, Dr. Hale has made it her mission to change how dentistry and medicine care for children’s well-being—by getting to the source of symptoms rather than merely managing them.

Episode Highlights & Key Insights:

• The “duct tape” problem in medicine and parenting: Many health challenges—headaches, poor sleep, crooked teeth, even mental health—are met with short-term remedies rather than curiosity about their origins (Catherine, 03:38).

• Oral health, airway function, and your child’s future: Dr. Hale describes how issues like crooked teeth, mouth breathing, tooth grinding, and even bedwetting can signal deep-seated airway problems that affect not just dental aesthetics, but growth, learning, and emotional health (Dr. Hale, 12:00).

• Rethinking orthodontics: For generations, standard dental practice has started “too late,” waiting until adolescence to straighten teeth and sometimes extracting healthy teeth—while missing the root cause: underdeveloped jaw and airway structures. Dr. Hale urges, “The way we do our orthodontic treatment on our children now will determine how they live for the rest of their life, and how they age.” (Dr. Kallie Hale, 13:41)

• Signs parents can’t afford to ignore: Grinding, snoring, chronic tiredness, allergies, dark under-eye circles, and persistent bedwetting are early warning lights on the dashboard. “That’s your check engine light,” warns Dr. Hale.

• From symptom to solution: Tooth Pillow—a simple, child-friendly appliance—offers early, gentle intervention that addresses the root of airway-related dental and sleep struggles, and their virtual platform means families everywhere can access screening and help.

• Spiritual parallels: Just like in health, our faith calls us to look below the surface—not just masking the manifest struggles but seeking the deeper heart issues, trusting God to reveal the true diagnosis and pathway to healing.

Catherine shares personal anecdotes—her own long path through dental fixes, her children’s struggles, and the frustration of being offered “duct tape” solutions, never a path to wholeness. Dr. Hale vulnerably discusses what it cost her to become a voice for root-cause medicine in a profession slow to change, and how she’s equipping parents to “challenge the narrative” in everything—from their dentist’s advice to the way they advocate for their children’s health and future.

Are you masking symptoms or courageously seeking the root?
As Christian parents, we’re called not just to fix what’s on the surface, but to ask better questions, seek deeper truth, and partner with God in healing—from head to heart. Don’t miss this episode for hope, wisdom, and a practical roadmap to get out of the symptom-chasing maze and into true wellness for your whole family.

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Where is God calling me to look deeper—to discover the root, restore what’s broken, and help my child become all He created them to be?

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There is no greater heartbreak for a Christian parent than watching a beloved child drift away from the faith. Yet in today’s world, navigating doubt and rebellion in our kids is increasingly common — and even the most dedicated parents may find themselves walking the painful road of the prodigal.

In this powerful and hope-filled episode, Catherine concludes her two-part “Best Of” series on Gen Z with Laurie Christine , originally aired on Redeeming the Chaos. Together, they tackle the hard questions: How do you parent a child who’s struggling in their faith? How do you protect your relationship and retain influence when your child is questioning, doubting, or rejecting core beliefs? What actions can help draw a wandering heart back — and what parental mistakes might actually push them further away?

Seven Big Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith
Catherine briefly recaps the top reasons young people cite for leaving Christianity, referencing Barna Research:

1. Struggling with the existence of evil and suffering

2. Perceiving Christians as hypocrites

3. Belief that science contradicts the Bible

4. Dismissing Christianity as a “fairy tale”

5. Disillusionment over injustices in Christian history

6. Apathy or perceived irrelevance of church

7. Negative experiences with Christians or church

Guidance for Parents Navigating a Prodigal Child's Journey
With raw honesty and wisdom, Catherine draws from her own family’s story and years of hosting Christian Parent Crazy World. She and Laurie Christine outline practical steps — and critical mindset shifts — for parents of teens and adult children who are wrestling with faith:

• Prayer is your first line of defense. Catherine emphasizes the unique spiritual authority parents have in prayer over their children, describing the importance of persistent, faith-filled intercession.

• Know your stage of parenting. Are you a caregiver, cop, coach, or counselor? Catherine details how your approach must shift as your child grows, especially in the late teen and adult years.

• Lead with unconditional love. Affirm your love no matter your child’s beliefs or choices. Laurie Christine highlights the importance of commending kids when they open up about doubt or disagreement, not reacting with panic or punishment.

• Set and communicate healthy boundaries. While extending grace, be clear about the behavioral standards for living in your home — but avoid enabling harmful choices.

• Don’t give endless sermons. Teens know what you believe. What they need now is to see the love of Christ in action and to encounter God for themselves.

• Reject the urge to convince, convict, coerce, or control. Catherine unpacks how these tactics either step into God’s role or mirror the enemy’s strategies. Instead, keep your focus on love, wise counsel, and prayer.

• Humble yourself and own your mistakes. Apologize when you’ve erred. Humility builds bridges and trust.

Releasing Guilt and Entrusting Your Child to God
Every parent will wonder “What did I do wrong?” Catherine compassionately reassures listeners that even a perfect parent—God Himself—had two children in the Garden who chose rebellion. She delineates what is a parent’s responsibility, what belongs to the child, and what only God can do. Parents must let go of crushing guilt and trust God’s relentless pursuit of prodigals.

Practical Resources
Catherine references a bundle of free resources for parents of prodigals, including scripture prayer lists and episode archives, available at her website.

Powerful Reminders
Above all, Catherine reminds parents that God’s love is unconditional — “while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Christian parents must model this same radical love, never shunning, always hoping, and continually interceding for their children.

Guest Bio:
Laurie Christine is host of Redeeming the Chaos and a mother of four boys. Her passion is equipping moms to raise courageous sons rooted in Christ.

This honest and practical episode is a lifeline for any parent feeling the heartbreak of doubt, struggle, or estrangement. Whether your child is beginning to question, entrenched in rebellion, or seemingly far from God, you’ll find encouragement, wisdom, and hope for the journey.

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Parents cannot afford to ignore why so many Gen Zers are walking away from Christianity. Understanding the reasons behind this dramatic cultural shift is essential for any Christian parent hoping to nurture enduring faith in their children.

In this sobering and highly relevant episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine is joined by guest Laurie Christine (author, podcast host, and biblical parenting coach) for a deep dive into the top seven reasons Gen Z is leaving the faith.

Pulling from recent Barna research, Catherine outlines the most prominent factors cited by young people, including the prevalence of evil and suffering, hypocrisy within the church, challenges regarding science, accusations that Christianity is “fairy tale,” historical injustices, church irrelevance, and personal bad experiences with Christians. Each of these issues is explored, not only in terms of what is driving the exodus but with practical suggestions and resources for parents at every stage—from young children in the home to teens on the brink of adulthood.

Key Points Covered:

• A Crisis of Worldview in Churches

  • Only 37% of pastors and 51% of evangelical pastors have a biblical worldview (09:24), according to the American Worldview Inventory.

  • Parents are cautioned not to outsource spiritual formation solely to churches—home must be the primary place for faith development.

• The Power and Pervasiveness of Cultural Influence

  • Social media, internet, and secular worldviews bombard kids daily, requiring parents to proactively engage in conversations about pantheism, secularism, suffering, identity, and more (10:49).

• Barna’s Seven Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith (12:02), (32:55)

  1. 1. I have a hard time believing that a good God would allow so much evil or suffering in the world (29%): see EPISODE 66 w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis

     2. Christians are hypocrites (23%)

     3. I believe science refutes too much of the Bible (20%) See Dr. Stephen Meyer: Signature in the Cell, The Return of the God Hypothesis, and Darwin’s Doubt; also see Dr. John Lennox (The “God Delusion “ Debate with Richard Dawkins)

     4. I don’t believe in fairy tales (19%) see “The Case for Christ” & “The Case for Christ for Kids” by Lee Strobel

     5. There are too many injustices in the history of Christianity (15%) see Episode 9: How Does Christian Worldview Creates the World We all Want to Live”, see Episodes 93, 94, & 95 w/ Os Guinness

     6. I used to go to church, but it’s just not important to me anymore (12%)

     7. I had a bad experience in church/with a Christian (6%) see Episodes 39, 40, 41, & 42; see “When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional & Spiritual Abuse” by Dr. Chuck DeGroat

• Parenting Solutions for Each Season

  • Practical foundation-building for young children: daily devotions, scripture memory using music, and apologetics resources like Foundation Worldview (21:45).

  • Teen and adult strategies: prioritizing tough conversations, choosing churches wisely, and seeking out other trusted Christian influences when parental voice decreases (19:08), (25:20).

  • The unique call to pray for, encourage, and intentionally speak truth into the distinctive gifts and struggles of each child.

• Featured Resources

  • Foundation Worldview curriculum (with discount code)

  • Books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGrow

  • Podcast episode recommendations for parents of prodigals and those wrestling with the problem of evil

Guest bio:
Laurie Christine is an author, podcast host, wife, and mom to four adventurous boys. She leads Redeeming the Chaos, equipping moms of boys to raise courageous kids rooted in Christ.

Want deeper guidance?
Subscribe to Catherine’s website for a free prodigal bundle (podcasts, articles, scripture lists, and music), plus weekly encouragement and parenting resources. For parents walking the prodigal path, there is hope—you are not alone.

Do not miss this critical conversation—because if we want to help Gen Z return to the faith, we must first understand why they’re leaving.

RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CITED:

“Emerging Gen Z may deliver huge blow to religion in U.S.” by Jeff Brumley (June 8, 2018)

The American Worldview Inventory in 2022 highlights worldview beliefs of American pastors.

“Only Half of Evangelical Pastors Possess a Christian Worldview: Incidence Even Lower for Most Denominations” (Cultural Research Cente::ACU)

ACU Cultural Research Center Worldview Inventory 2020-current

Foundation Worldview Curriculum (use “CPCW10” code for 10% discount)

Apologia: What We Believe (4 volume set)

EPISODES CITED:

Episode 57: “How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz

Episode 58: “7 Lies Culture is Selling Our Kids: Are They Buying?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz

Episode 72: “What Do People Leaving the Faith often Get Wrong about God?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowics

Episode 84: “How To Learn More Scripture in 2024 Than You Ever Have Before” w/ Zac Fitzsimmons

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No parenting strategy—no matter how faithful or intentional—guarantees your child will follow God. In one of the most honest and tender episodes to date, Catherine and her guest, D.J Harry, open up about the heartache and hope of raising children in a culture that stands in stark opposition to biblical truth.

This is a special “best of” episode that revisits a conversation rich with candor, compassion, and wisdom, as Catherine and D.J Harry confront the painful question: Does godly parenting always produce godly kids? Drawing on profound lessons from the book of Daniel, they discuss what it means to parent faithfully in an ungodly world—and what to do when the outcome isn't what you prayed for.

Key Takeaways & Topics:

• No Guaranteed Formula
  There’s no five, ten, or twenty-step plan that will ensure your child’s salvation. Every child must ultimately make their own faith decision, and parents are called to obedience and faithfulness, not results.

• Lessons from Daniel: Parenting in Babylon

  • The unpredictable timing and nature of faith-testing in the next generation

  • The importance of a well-rounded education and teaching children how to learn and discern

  • Faith transference as a relational—not mechanical—process

  • Training children to appeal to authority and stand firm amid pressure, without parents fighting every battle for them

• When the Result Is Not What You Expected
  Catherine shares her own experience of parenting a child who wrestled with faith and doubt, giving voice to the pain, uncertainty, and relentless prayer that many Christian parents experience. She emphasizes the foundational role parents play and affirms that their faithfulness is never wasted.

• Identity Under Fire
  The world seeks to rename and redefine our children’s identities—much like Daniel and his friends in Babylon. Knowing who God says they are is essential for resilience.

• Grace for Parents
  Catherine dispels shame and blame with biblical wisdom: even the perfect parent—God—had children who rebelled. God judges our faithfulness, not our results.

• Hope and Practical Help

  • Real-life stories of wandering and return

  • Prayers and scripture resources for parents of prodigals

  • Catherine's personal update: her daughter's faith journey over several years, highlighting the power of persistent, loving prayer

For Listeners Walking the Prodigal Road:
This episode is a lifeline for parents burdened with worry or sorrow over children who question or walk away from faith. You’ll find encouragement, solidarity, and actionable hope alongside scriptural truth and raw honesty.

Guest Bio:
D.J Harry is a pastor, speaker, podcaster, and father of four. He and his wife, Lori, cohost the Better Together podcast, which explores biblical wisdom for marriage and parenting. Learn more at growingbettertogether.org.

Parenting Resource Highlight:
Subscribers to Catherine’s website receive access to her Prodigal Bundle: podcasts, articles, five pages of scriptures to pray over your kids, and more.

If you need prayer or support, email Catherine at katherine@katherineseekers.com. You are not alone.

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How do we raise children who stand strong—and even shine—in a culture determined to pull them away from God?

In this special archive series of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine dives deep into one of the most urgent questions facing Christian parents: How can we prepare our kids to stand firm in a “Babylonian” culture bent on swaying their faith?

To answer this, Catherine welcomes DJ Harry , senior pastor of Needham’s Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and cohost of the Better Together podcast. With over two decades of experience in pastoral ministry (and a background in education), DJ Harry brings powerful insights drawn from the biblical life of Daniel—a young man who stood unwaveringly for God while surrounded by pressure and compromise.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Timeless Lessons from Daniel:
  Drawing from the extraordinary story of Daniel and his friends, listeners are invited to reimagine the Book of Daniel as a parenting manual for today. How did teenagers like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego maintain unwavering faith in the heart of Babylon—a culture that tried to erase everything they knew and believed?

• You Can’t Choose When or How Your Child Will Be Tested:
  As DJ Harry recounts, “We don’t get to set the time or the age when our children are going to be pressured.” Like Daniel’s parents, we rarely know how or when our children’s faith will face its hardest tests, but we can choose how we prepare them now.

• The Power of a Well-Rounded Foundation:
  Daniel and his peers were chosen because of their well-rounded competence—in wisdom, learning, and character. Catherine Segars and DJ Harry challenge parents to nurture not just spiritual knowledge but also curiosity, learning, and character in their children.

• Facing the Reality of “Babylon” Today:
  The episode acknowledges the modern pressures—academic, social, and spiritual—that Christian kids face, often at younger ages than ever before. The analogy to ancient Babylon becomes all too relevant.

• Where Most of the Crowd Goes Missing:
  Listeners are reminded that most of the young men taken to Babylon “became good Babylonian young men,” disappearing into the crowd. Only a faithful few—like Daniel and his friends—stood apart. What made the difference, and how can parents cultivate that difference at home?

• Practical Encouragement for Uncertain Times:
  Personal anecdotes, including a health scare in DJ Harry 's family, bring home the message that we don’t know what tomorrow holds. Our task as parents is to lay the seeds now—academically, spiritually, emotionally—without presuming on time.

Standout Moment:
DJ Harry reveals, “If I want my children to have the greatest opportunity to have an impact in their Babylon, then part of that preparation is preparing them to lead in culture.”

Why This Matters:
In an age when research shows most church-raised kids drift from faith under cultural pressure, this episode is a wake-up call: intentional, daily spiritual formation and well-rounded preparation matter more than ever.

About the Guest:
DJ Harry is the senior pastor of Needham's Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and co-hosts the Better Together podcast with his wife, Lori. With a background as both a science teacher and pastor, he brings real-world experience to this biblical discussion on parenting.

Parenting Takeaway:
Are you cultivating an environment where your children gain not just faith, but the wisdom, skills, and confidence to stand apart in their generation? What steps can you take this week to intentionally prepare your child’s heart, mind, and character for the challenges ahead?

Connect with DJ Harry :
Website: Dr. Dennis Harry

Don’t miss next week’s powerful conclusion—and a moment so surprising it changed the course of this interview.

EPISODE LINKS:

• Better Together Podcast

• CatherineSegars.com

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Rest Isn’t a Luxury—It’s a Command: How Christian Parents Can Rediscover the Gift of Sabbath in a Nonstop World

Few topics challenge modern Christian families more deeply than how—and why—to actually keep the Sabbath in our culture of relentless busyness and endless to-do lists. Have we missed one of God’s greatest gifts for our homes?

Catherine is joined by Dr. Steven Hall, minister, theologian, and soul-care advocate, to guide parents through the what, why, and—most importantly—the how of Sabbath-keeping for busy families today. With nearly four decades of ministry experience, degrees in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, and as the cofounder of Ministry Oasis, Dr. Steven Hall offers a powerful, grace-filled perspective on rest that goes far beyond legalism.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• Sabbath as Trust, Not Legalism: Dr. Hall reveals how practicing Sabbath is less about rule-following and more about radical trust—much like the principle of tithing. "Trust is being able to say, okay. There's a hard stop here for me…I'm going to trust God with all of my unanswered emails, all my unattended bills, and all my unrun errands," shares Dr. Steven Hall 09:03.

• Why Rest Comes First: Many Christians “work, work, work, until we finally collapse,” but as Dr. Hall points out, God designed us to work from rest, not rest from work04:39. The Jewish day begins at sunset, with rest and worship, modeling God’s original rhythms.

• Practical Ways to Start: Sabbath needn’t be another item on your checklist. Dr. Hall shares practical, creative approaches for every stage of family life—from “micro-Sabbaths” to trading child care hours with other parents in your community 14:46, 20:10. Even single parents or busy caregivers can carve out sacred time, with the help of honest reflection and support.

• Saying “No” for a Higher Yes: Sometimes, honoring the Sabbath means courageously declining soccer games, dance recitals, or church programs that overcrowd your family’s schedule—trusting that what your children need most is a parent who models margin and abiding in Christ 25:21.

Notable Quotes & Moments:

• “Sabbath is not about adding one more thing to your to-do list. Sabbath is about removing all the to-do things from your list.” – Dr. Steven Hall 15:21

• “Imagine if parents of young children would live and teach Sabbath, their children would catch it—and break the yoke of the cultural pharaoh over their lives.” – Dr. Steven Hall 17:51

• Stories of creative Sabbath-keeping, from couple tag-team strategies for parents with little kids, to the real-life example of Susanna Wesley using “micro-Sabbath” moments by simply pulling her apron over her head for prayer 31:06.

About the Guest:
Dr. Steven Hall is associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University and cofounder of Ministry Oasis, devoted to the soul health of pastors and ministry leaders.

Ready to trade busyness for blessing?
What could Sabbath look like for your family—if you trusted God enough to stop, even when the world demands more? This episode equips you not only with theological foundations, but also with inspiring ideas and practical steps to lead your home into God’s rhythm of rest.

Ask yourself: What is one step you can take this week to model rest, trust, and delight in God for your children? How might your family—and your legacy—change if you made Sabbath a priority?

Tune in and reclaim the gift of Sabbath for your home!

Resources for Going Deeper

• The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Find it on Amazon
  A highly recommended book that explores the damaging effects of hurry and the invitation to cultivate Sabbath rhythms for a more grounded, God-centered life.

• Rule of Life Podcast Listen Here
  A podcast series (early episodes dedicated to Sabbath) that dives deep into the biblical and practical aspects of building habits of rest and renewal.

• Ministry Oasis
  Explore resources and Sabbath teachings at ministryoasis.com
  Dr. Steven Hall offers teaching, encouragement, and practical guidance for soul health and Sabbath keeping.

• Catherine Segars’ Christian Parenting Resources
  Get free faith-building downloads at catherinesegars.com/resources
  Access eBooks, podcast archives, prayers for your kids, and tools to support your journey as a Christian parent.

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Most Christians would never dream of breaking the Ten Commandments—except, perhaps, one: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” Why has the fourth commandment become the one modern believers feel comfortable ignoring? Is Sabbath rest just an antiquated Old Testament burden—or could restoring it be the antidote our over-stressed homes desperately need?

This week, Catherine welcomes back Dr. Steven Hall, a minister with nearly four decades of experience, associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University, and executive director of the Paul L. Walker Center for Pentecostal Preaching. An expert in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, Dr. Hall guides listeners through a rejuvenating look at the biblical roots and modern relevance of Sabbath rest.

Key Episode Takeaways:

• A Forgotten Commandment
  Catherine challenges listeners to reconsider the importance of Sabbath, noting how its neglect is rarely discussed or even recognized—despite its place alongside commandments against murder and adultery (00:37).

• Why We Keep Breaking It
  According to Dr. Hall, our American hustle-culture and pipeline lifestyle lead us to run on empty—constantly pouring out, never filling up. “Capitalism based on consumerism has no room for rest,” he asserts, explaining why so many parents are exhausted and soul-weary (09:12).

• Sabbath: More Than Just a Rule
  The conversation reframes Sabbath not as a restrictive law, but as a pre-fall creation principle—woven by God into the fabric of human flourishing (as outlined in Genesis 1 and 2). “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work,” Dr. Hall emphasizes, challenging a work-first, rest-later cultural narrative (25:24).

• Awareness Before Obedience
  Catherine and Dr. Hall draw parallels to hidden sins, like the anecdote of Alexandra who unknowingly broke biblical commands before learning the truth. The episode encourages parents to move from ignorance to understanding, and to teach their children the same (16:21).

• The Sabbath as a Mark of God’s People
  Referencing Isaiah 56, Catherine points out how Sabbath-keeping was key to belonging for outsiders—all while remaining a powerful cultural counter-sign today (38:09).

• Not Legalism, but Life-Giving Rhythm
  Dr. Hall and Catherine reveal how Jesus didn’t abolish the Sabbath, but restored it as a gift for our wellbeing, not a heavy burden (45:25).

• A Pandemic of Hurry
  Drawing on John Mark Comer and other modern thinkers, the episode exposes the epidemic of “hurry sickness” ravaging our homes and hearts, stealing the very love we’re called to pour out on our families (35:19).

• Practical Application Awaits
  Look ahead to next week’s episode, where Dr. Hall will unpack “micro-Sabbathing”—real-life strategies for busy parents, caregivers, and those in nontraditional jobs who wrestle with the practicality of setting aside an entire day (46:54).

Notable Quotes:

“Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work.” – Dr. Hall
“If the devil can’t make you bad, he’ll make you busy... because if he can make you busy, he can make you tired, and when you’re tired, he can make you bad.” – Dr. Hall (23:02)
“The Sabbath was never intended to become another heavy burden. It was designed to lift our burdens.” – Catherine

About the Guest:
Dr. Steven Hall brings decades of ministry experience, academic expertise, and a passion for spiritual formation. He currently teaches at Lee University and leads Ministry Oasis, fostering soul health among Christian leaders and families.

Are you parenting from the overflow of God’s rest, or are you running on spiritual empty? What would it look like for your family to recover the life-giving rhythm of Sabbath this week?

Tune in—and discover how restoring this ancient practice could transform your home, your peace, and your relationship with God for generations.

Episode Links & Resources

• Ministry Oasis
  Discover more about Dr. Steven Hall’s ministry for the soul health of pastors and Christian leaders at ministryoasis.com

• Books Mentioned

  • The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer
    Find it on Amazon

  • Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer
    Find it on Amazon

  • Works by Walter Brueggemann, including Sabbath as Resistance
    Find it on Amazon

  • Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete Scazzero
    Find it on Amazon

• Catherine’s Free Parenting Resources
  Access free ebooks, scripture lists, podcast bundles, and more to equip you for Christian parenting at:
  catherinesegars.com/resources
  Or contact Catherine directly at: catherine@catherinesegars.com

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What if your family had a mission as clear as any thriving organization? Without intentionality, families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos. In a world pulling parents in a thousand directions, many Christian families find themselves simply reacting, drifting instead of living with God-given purpose. In this must-listen episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine sits down with Derek England, Executive Director of Family ID—a ministry with over 25 years of experience equipping parents to build intentional, value-driven homes.

Why This Episode Matters:
Every family drifts—unless you set your direction on purpose. Few of us stop to ask, “Why has God brought our unique family together?” or, “How do we intentionally pass on our core values?” Catherine and Derek England shine a spotlight on the practical and biblical tools that can transform your family from surviving to thriving.

Guest Highlight:
Derek England is not only leading Family ID but has personally experienced how clarifying family identity can radically alter the trajectory of a home. His heart is for every family—from toddlers to teens—to discover their God-given calling together.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

Why Family Culture Matters

• Catherine reminds us that “families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos.” The foundational strength of your family is the most important ministry, eclipsing even your career and outside achievements.

Intentionality Over Drift

• Derek England explains how, after years of approaching work with strategy and goals but “taking family one day at a time,” he and his wife attended a Family ID workshop and immediately knew they’d found what was missing. “Once you think it, you can't unthink it.”

Your Family’s God-Given Uniqueness

• Not every family is called to the same mission. Discover the importance of answering the question: “Who are we?” Hear how Family ID helps thousands of families articulate their unique identity, purpose, and direction—with tools that actually shape daily life.

The 16 Family Types

• Using research and decades of experience, Family ID has identified 16 different family cultures—from “harmonious” (like the elephant: connected and relational) to “focused” (passionate, intentional, persistent). Find out how an online, totally free assessment can help you discover yours.

Living Out Core Values

• Hear how Derek England’s family intentionally chooses and lives by five core values such as “radically protective of quality time” and “unwavering integrity.”

• Learn why having just a handful of clearly-stated values provides a shared language and an anchor for decision-making—even for young kids.

Practical Tools You Can Use Today

• Family ID offers bite-sized videos and workbooks to walk you through creating your own family identity, mission, and values—accessible online, easy to do in short sittings, and free from cost barriers.

• The Family ID process includes resources to ensure every voice—including your kids’—is heard as you clarify and celebrate your unique family strengths.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “When you know who you are, you’ll know what to do.” – Derek England

• “Our family didn’t start with us, and it won’t end with our kids.” – Derek England

• “Where there is a lack of vision, the people perish… Where there’s a lack of vision for your family, it won’t thrive.” – Catherine

Anecdotes That Hit Home

• Catherine shares how her daughter discovered a laser-focus and passion in Civil Air Patrol after struggling with direction—a real-life testimony to the power of clarifying vision.

• Families are reminded that it’s never too late, quoting: “The best time to plant a tree is ten years ago. The second best time is today.”

Why This Conversation Is Essential for Christian Parents

In an era of fractured schedules and constant distractions, this episode equips parents to reclaim the sacred calling of the family—to be the primary place of discipleship, love, and generational impact. Whether your home feels harmonious, focused, or a work in progress, you’ll come away with both hope and practical tools to lead your family with vision and unity.

About the Guest:
Derek England serves as Executive Director of Family ID, a ministry devoted to helping families worldwide build intentional and faith-filled homes. With over two decades of expertise—and his own journey transformed through the Family ID process—he’s passionate about helping parents move from reaction to intentionality.

Are you ready to answer: “Who are we?”
Visit family-id.com to take the free family identity assessment and begin building your family mission today.

Your Call To Action:
How would your family change if you decided today to live with intention? Why not gather for dinner this week and ask, “Who are we—really?” Take the Family ID assessment together and start a new chapter of purpose-driven parenting.

Don’t drift—build! Your family is worth it.

Resources/Links

• Family ID – Free Family Identity Assessment & Master Class
  Discover your unique family type, core values, and intentional strategies to build a faith-filled home using the Family ID online assessment and resources.

• Catherine Segars’ Free Resources for Christian Parents
  Access devotionals, scripture lists, articles, and tools to help you thrive as a Christian parent in today’s world.

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Who Gets to Define the Next Generation? Gen Z Finds Its Voice—and Its Anchor—in Christ

Is Gen Z lost in the noise of culture, media, and politics—or are they quietly forging a radical new path of faith? In this powerful episode, Catherine sits down with high school senior and gifted poet Charis Shoemaker to explore how today’s young Christians are wrestling with identity, truth, and calling in an ever-fractured world. If you wonder what the next generation truly believes, and how Christian parents can encourage their kids to pursue God in the midst of cultural chaos, this is an episode you cannot afford to miss.

About Our Guest:
Charis Shoemaker is no ordinary teenager. A state award-winning actress, an eloquent poet, and—most importantly—a passionate follower of Christ, she represents a new wave of young believers speaking up for authentic faith. Charis’ original poem, “They Say,” recently brought a packed house to their feet at her homeschool graduation, voicing the hopes and struggles of a generation determined to follow Christ—no matter the cost.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Gen Z Under the Microscope
  Listen as Charis shares firsthand what it’s like to grow up constantly defined—often unfairly—by societal labels, politics, and the relentless barrage of social media. In an era of fractured opinions, what do young people really hear about who or what they’re supposed to be?

• The Power of Godly Influence
  Charis opens up about her own journey, including profound family challenges and the steady faith of her mother, a night-shift nurse who made time for Scripture and prayer no matter how hard life got. Her story testifies to the quiet resilience that shapes faith behind the scenes.

• A Poetic Anthem for Gen Z
  Hear Charis' captivating poem, “They Say,” in full. Her words challenge generational stereotypes and culture’s attempts to define identity—while serving as an anthem for those who choose to be defined not by people, but by the voice of God.

  “If my life is to revolve around opinions, I would much rather they come from a God who is preeminent than a people who are insignificant... I would much rather they be words spoken by the Word who became flesh for me.” – Charis Shoemaker, 19:15

• Dealing with Church Hurt and Pain
  Charis recounts personal battles—including abuse and disappointment with the Church—and how those wounds could have derailed her faith. Yet, she found hope, healing, and her truest identity in Jesus. Parents will find wisdom here for helping kids process pain with grace rather than anger or withdrawal.

• Who Gets to Define Us?
  The conversation zeroes in on the theme of authority, urging listeners to ask tough questions: Is our identity determined by culture, by the Church, by ourselves—or solely by God, the Creator who names us and calls us His own?

• Hope Rising in Gen Z
  Contrary to stereotypes, Charis reveals that a growing number of her peers are returning to church and hungry for real, unfiltered truth. She challenges parents not to underestimate Gen Z's capacity—and desire—for deep faith, and encourages both generations to risk bold, loving conversations about what matters most.

  “There’s a generation coming up after you that wants truth…Be there for us. Give us that thing to hold on to.” – Charis Shoemaker, 53:38

Why This Matters:
In a season when so much is said about the failures and fears of the next generation, this episode highlights a surprising undercurrent: Gen Z isn’t just walking away—they’re wrestling, seeking, and often returning to the God who defines them. Catherine and Charis Shoemaker’s honest exchange offers hope to every parent praying for their child’s faith journey.

Memorable Moments:

• The story of Charis Shoemaker's friend whose final words were simply, “Trust Jesus”—a moving reminder of the enduring legacy of authentic faith (35:33).

• An inspiring encounter with a peer who worships “mother earth” and how open conversation sows seeds of truth and friendship (52:53).

• The recognition that every generation faces labels, but the only voice that matters is God’s.

Modern Application:
Christian parents, take heart! The next generation is listening, watching, and longing for truth—especially from you. Your example, prayers, and honest conversations matter more than ever. As you foster their search for identity, remember: God alone must anchor our children in a world desperate to define them.

Call to Action:
How are you helping your children—or the young people in your life—listen to God’s voice above all others? This week, try having an open conversation about identity and faith at home. Share your own story, and invite them to share theirs—uncut, unfiltered, and real.

Resources Mentioned:

• “Gay Girl, Good God” by Jackie Hill Perry

• The Narrow Road (song by Reagan James Boone)

Let us know: How are you equipping your family to anchor their identity in Christ, not in what “they say”? Share your thoughts and experiences with us on social media, or email your parenting questions for future episodes!

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In an age when the foundations of freedom are being shaken around the world, this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World asks a pivotal question: Can freedom last if we forget where it truly comes from? Far beyond politics or constitutions, is it possible to have real liberty apart from God?

Catherine welcomes world-renowned author, philosopher, and social critic Os Guinness for a thought-provoking conversation that every parent needs to hear. Os Guinness holds a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford and has authored more than 30 books, including The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom. Few voices are better equipped to explore the intersection of faith, freedom, and society.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

• The True Origin of Freedom: Dive into the biblical roots of liberty as Os Guinness explains why the foundation of our freedom is found not in political documents, but in the Genesis declaration that every human bears the image of God. This “Magna Carta for humanity” has shaped Western civilization and remains the bedrock for genuine human dignity and rights.

• Freedom’s Decline—and Hope for Renewal: With authoritarianism on the rise and Western society in decline, Os Guinness calls for a return to the sustaining truths found in Scripture. He unpacks why evil, injustice, and oppression are not to be accepted as normal or final, but always fought in the name of the God who freely creates and redeems.

• Can We Keep Our Freedom? Os Guinness shares his "golden triangle" of freedom—freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and faith requires freedom—pointing out that each is under assault in today's culture.

• The Power of Family Stories: In a stirring insight, Os Guinness recalls how, on the night of the Exodus, Moses didn’t speak of freedom, but of children. The stories shared in our homes, he argues, are the key to both personal identity and the future of nations—a reminder that parents play a vital, irreplaceable role in transmitting truth to the next generation.

• Practical Hope for Parents: Catherine and Os Guinness urge parents not to underestimate the power of daily faithfulness—praying, teaching, modeling, and talking with your children about God’s story. These small, seemingly ordinary acts are what shape the leaders and culture-changers of tomorrow.

Notable Quotes & Moments

“Freedom has everything to do with faith, not fate. Slavery is the norm in history, and abolition is the exception.” — Os Guinness

“The stories parents tell to their children are the key to identity and the key to continuity.” — Os Guinness

“We are the creative minority… We’ve gotta be that with courage and confidence and know that under the Lord, it will make a difference.” — Os Guinness

Why This Matters

At a time when culture and education are shifting rapidly, this episode is a clarion call for Christian parents: the future of faith and freedom lies in your hands. The conversations you have, the scriptures you teach, and the faith you live out day by day can transform generations.

Modern Application

Moms and dads, never underestimate your influence. Building your family on the unchanging truth of Scripture, you hold the key to preserving not only your children’s faith but the very foundations of liberty for the future.

About the Guest

Os Guinness (born 1941) is an English author, theologian, and social critic. Born in China to medical missionaries, he witnessed the 1949 revolution. Educated at the University of London and Oxford, he has written over 30 books—including The Call and The Magna Carta of Humanity—and founded the Trinity Forum

Episode Links

• The Magna Carta of Humanity by Os Guinness

• Os Guinness Website: ozguinness.com

• Additional resources for Christian parents: catherinesegars.com

Reflect & Discuss

How are you passing on the story of God’s freedom to your children? In what ways can your family life become a “creative minority” that shapes the next generation for truth and liberty? Share your thoughts, start the conversation at home, and let’s become the few who make the difference.

Subscribe, review, and share—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone!

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Is America losing the true meaning of freedom? As we celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, this urgent episode probes the foundations of liberty, the threats facing our nation, and what it takes to safeguard freedom for our children and generations to come.

In a riveting and timely conversation, host Catherine welcomes Dr. Os Guinness—esteemed philosopher, prolific author of 30+ books, and Oxford-educated scholar—on Christian Parent/Crazy World. As one of the last surviving Western eyewitnesses to the Chinese Communist Revolution, Os Guinness brings a one-in-eight-billion perspective on Marxism, the power of faith amid crisis, and the unique roots of American freedom.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

The Origins of True Freedom

• Explore why the American experiment stands apart from every other revolution in history, and how its “ordered freedom” is rooted not in Enlightenment thinkers, but in the biblical model of the Hebrew Republic (13:42).

• Discover the “Golden Triangle of Freedom”—the idea that freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and faith requires freedom—and why this cycle is essential for a nation to remain free (05:21).

Firsthand Testimony from History’s Crucible

• Hear Os Guinness recount surviving the trauma and reign of terror in Communist China as a child, witnessing trials, executions, and famine that claimed the lives of his own brothers (07:47, 11:28).

• Learn how his experiences shaped an unflinching realism about Marxism and the dangers of revolutionary utopianism (09:09).

Dueling Revolutions: Bible vs. Enlightenment

• Unpack the stark contrast between the American and French Revolutions—their sources, their visions of justice, and why one led to ordered liberty while the other spiraled into totalitarianism (18:25).

The “Long March” Through Culture

• Grasp the strategies used by cultural Marxists to capture education, media, law, family, and religion—aiming to reshape the very core of society (28:02).

• Understand why so many college-bound Christian kids lose their faith, and the urgent need for Christian parents to cultivate resilient worldviews in their children (28:53).

Why Freedom Is Fragile—And How to Guard It

• Be warned: “Freedom is the great enemy of freedom. When we misuse freedom, we will eventually lose it.” (42:10)

• Hear the powerful call to Christian citizens—why voting, cultural engagement, and long-haul disciple-making in families and churches matter now more than ever (34:38).

Quotable Moments & Anecdotes

• “Freedom is not the permission to do what you like. Freedom is the power to do what you ought.” (41:13)

• The story of Derek Prince’s prayer for a leader in WWII—and how God answered, changing the course of history (37:37).

Why This Matters for Christian Parents:
Our children are being taught that freedom means “license”—the ability to do whatever we want. This episode powerfully reframes freedom as a God-given power and responsibility to do what is right. As parents, understanding and passing on the true source and nature of freedom is nothing less than essential—because only faith-fueled virtue can preserve liberty.

About Dr. Os Guinness:
With a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford, Os Guinness is globally recognized for his insight into faith, freedom, and society. Raised in China and forged amid revolution, his lifetime of scholarship and firsthand experience make him uniquely qualified to speak on the future of freedom. His latest book, The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom, provides the roadmap for this conversation.

Episode Links & Resources:

• The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai's Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom by Os Guinness 

• Os Guinness website
• Catherine's Parenting Resources

A Call to Action:
What are you doing to plant deep-rooted seeds of faith and freedom in your children? As America stands at a crossroads, how will your family uphold the true foundations of liberty in a culture drifting from its source? Join the conversation—because lasting freedom begins at home.

Don’t miss next week’s archive episode as Catherine and Os Guinness explore the breath-taking biblical truth that every human is made in the image of God—and what that means for the future of freedom.

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Every parent wants their kids to thrive, but what if the key to their success isn’t just grades or good behavior, but the life lessons we pass on? It’s not just important—it’s essential.

Episode Overview

In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine unpacks the three biggest life lessons every parent must teach their kids, weaving wisdom from her years as a performer, mother, and follower of Christ. Drawing from her unique background in theater and comedy improv, Catherine reveals how these powerful truths have shaped her own journey and can equip families to navigate an unpredictable world.

Through heartfelt stories and moments of humor—including the hilarious tale of how pretending to be a British exchange student launched her acting career—Catherine demonstrates how the unpredictable nature of improv mirrors real life. She brings home the point that life rarely goes according to our script, but our response makes all the difference.

The Three Life Lessons

1. You can't choose what happens to you, but you can choose how you respond.
   Life throws curveballs—sometimes it’s a dashed dream, a difficult diagnosis, or a sudden job loss. Drawing from both personal experiences and touching examples, Catherine encourages parents (and their kids) to focus on their response rather than circumstances. [See: 11:02]

2. Accept what happens and build.
   The secret of successful improv—and life—is to accept what you’re given and build on it. Catherine shows how this principle, grounded in biblical truth, calls us not to live in denial or despair, but to trust that God can work with whatever comes our way, using disappointment and surprise for something greater. [See: 14:08]

3. Allow God to turn mistakes into masterpieces.
   Sometimes the biggest mistake sparks our greatest victory. With moving real-life stories—like a stage mishap that became an improv masterpiece and a heartbreaking miscarriage that ultimately led to miraculous new life—Catherine illustrates how, when we surrender our failures to God, He can redeem them beyond what we imagined. [See: 20:33]

Why These Lessons Matter

Parents don’t have the power to control everything in their children’s lives, but they can equip them with a mindset rooted in faith, resilience, and hope. These lessons go beyond advice—they’re lifelines for navigating a broken world with confidence that God is always at work, even in the mess.

Memorable Quote

“It’s often the mistake that turns into a masterpiece.” — Catherine [See: 20:38]

Episode Resources

• Catherine’s Website Resources:
  https://catherinesegars.com/resources
  Access free resources for Christian parents, including the Prodigal Bundle, “Beyond the Lies” ebook, scripture lists, and more.

Call to Action:
How has God turned a mistake or unexpected challenge in your life into a masterpiece? Share your story or reflect on what lesson God may want your family to “build on” right now!

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Sexuality and gender are among the most challenging—and unavoidable—topics facing Christian families today. As cultural voices grow louder, Christian parents can no longer afford silence or uncertainty. This episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World dives deep into these hot-button issues, offering not just “what to say,” but the biblical foundation and practical strategies every parent needs.

Joining Catherine for this vital conversation is Elizabeth Urbanowicz, founder and CEO of Foundation Worldview, a leading expert in equipping children with Christian apologetics. Elizabeth’s latest book, Helping Your Kids Know God’s Good Design: 40 Questions and Answers on Sexuality and Gender, provides the centerpiece for this episode’s candid, grace-filled, and refreshingly practical approach.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

• Clear Biblical Foundations

  • How to root every conversation on sexuality and gender in God’s intentional, loving design.

• Making Sin Understandable

  • Creative object lessons and analogies to help children grasp what sin—and sexual sin—really is.

• Talking Consequences, Not Fear

  • Strategies to address the real-life impact of sex outside God’s design without shame-based tactics.

• Navigating LGBTQ+ & Transgender Topics

  • The “sandwich approach” for addressing same-sex attraction and gender identity issues with grace and truth for kids of all ages.

• Tackling Taboo Topics

  • A straightforward, biblical framework for honest conversations about masturbation and other uncomfortable questions.

• Grace for Imperfect Parents

  • Encouragement for parents who feel late to the conversation—why faithfulness, not perfection, defines godly parenting.

Why This Matters
In a culture saturated with confusion, Christian families have the opportunity—and the responsibility—to be the “trusted voice, the go-to source” for their children on some of life’s most intimate questions. The episode empowers parents to embrace their calling, equipping them to plant seeds of truth in their children’s hearts, nurture them with love, and trust God for the growth.

About the Guest
Elizabeth Urbanowicz is an award-winning educator and the founder/CEO of Foundation Worldview, known for her apologetics curriculum designed specifically for children. Her new book, Helping Your Kids Know God’s Good Design, is quickly becoming an essential resource for Christian families navigating these complex topics.

EPISODE LINKS

• Foundation Worldview

• Helping Your Kids Know God’s Good Design: 40 Questions & Answers on Sexuality & Gender (book)

• CatherineSegars.com Resources — Email Catherine Here (for more free parenting resources)

Parents, Are You Ready?
Will you step into these conversations with both truth and grace, becoming the safe harbor your children need as they navigate a confusing world? Listen in—and equip your family to see not just what the culture says, but the beauty and goodness of God’s design.

What’s your biggest struggle or question when it comes to talking about sexuality and gender with your children? Join the conversation and share your thoughts!

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Talking to Your Kids About Sex and Gender Feels Overwhelming? You’re Not Alone—But You’re the Parent God Chose for This Moment.

Every Christian parent knows “the talk” is coming—but what if it’s sooner (and more important) than you think? In today’s hyper-sexualized, ever-confusing culture, silence is not an option. Someone—or something—will shape your child’s understanding of sex and identity. The real question: Will it be you, or the world?

In this courageous episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine sits down with trusted guest Elizabeth Urbanowicz, founder and CEO of Foundation Worldview. A seasoned educator, experienced apologist, and creator of biblically sound resources for families, Elizabeth Urbanowicz knows firsthand how to translate tough, complex topics for young hearts and minds. Her latest book, Helping Your Kids Know God's Good Design: 40 Questions and Answers on Sexuality and Gender, equips parents to start the conversation confidently and biblically—no matter your background.

What You’ll Learn and Why It Matters:

• Why Christian Parents Must Go First
  Catherine and Elizabeth Urbanowicz make the case that if you’re not the “first voice” your kids hear about sex and gender, you risk becoming just another commentary in a noisy world. The “founder’s effect” means early, honest conversations establish you—not TikTok or the classroom—as the expert in your child’s life

• Conversation Starters for Every Age
  Nervous about what to say? Take a deep breath. From age-appropriate ways to explain anatomy (“God has given us special body parts to be treated with special care”, to using simple analogies (“Just like we keep some toys special, some parts of our body are to be kept private”), Elizabeth Urbanowicz outlines practical conversation guides for little ones. She provides step-by-step approaches to discussing biological differences, the mechanics of sex, and the beauty of God’s design—without shame or fear.

• God’s Good Design: Framing Matters
  Instead of starting with “don’t do it,” this episode teaches you to anchor the entire conversation in God’s goodness—how He created sexual intimacy as a precious gift for marriage, reflecting Christ’s relationship with the Church, and as foundational, not shameful, to human identity.

• Addressing Parental Wounds and Fears
  What if your own story is marked by pain, brokenness, or unmet expectations? Elizabeth Urbanowicz offers heartfelt encouragement for parents who feel disqualified by divorce, loss, abuse, or regrets: “God is working all things together for your good by conforming you more into the image of His Son”. The goal is not a perfect family portrait—it’s pointing your kids to Jesus, no matter the journey.

• You Will Not Steal Their Innocence—You Will Protect It
  Afraid early conversations will “ruin” your child’s innocence? Elizabeth Urbanowicz gently challenges that notion: real harm comes not from truth, but from leaving kids uninformed and unprepared in a fallen world.

Notable Moments & Quotes:

• “Whoever is the first person to talk about a topic naturally becomes the expert in our minds.”

• “Sexuality is not something to be embarrassed or ashamed of. It’s a gift God has given to be used within its proper context.”

• “Our feelings do not determine what is right or wrong. God’s good design does. And it is for our good.”

About the Guest:
Elizabeth Urbanowicz holds a master’s degree in Education from Northern Illinois University and an MA in Christian Apologetics from Biola University. She’s a former elementary school teacher and now a foremost voice in equipping families, churches, and educators to help kids think biblically and critically. As founder of Foundation Worldview, her resources are used and loved in homes and ministries nationwide.

RESOURCES REFERENCED:

• Helping Your Kids Know God’s Good Design: 40 Questions and Answers on Sexuality and Gender (book by Elizabeth Urbanowicz)

• Foundation Worldview (foundationworldview.com)

• Recommended children’s books: God Made Your Body and How God Made Babies by Jim Burns

• Catherine’s free resources, podcasts, and articles for Christian parents available at catherinesegars.com

• Contact Catherine: catherine@catherinesegars.com

Why Christian Parents Can’t Sit This One Out:
If you feel afraid, overwhelmed, or like you’re starting late, take heart: God is sovereign, even over our mistakes. Begin where you are, trust God’s leading, and choose to be the voice your child needs.

Discussion Starter for Listeners:
How will you intentionally become the “first voice” for your children on sex, identity, and God’s good design—even if it means facing your own discomfort or starting late? What step will you take this week to begin the conversation?

Tune in and be equipped—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.

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Wholesome entertainment that deals authentically with real life and honors God can feel almost impossible to find. Where can Christian parents turn for stories that inspire, edify, and wrestle with tough issues—without sacrificing biblical truth?

Catherine welcomes acclaimed author Felicia Ferguson, whose award-winning women’s fiction is making waves for all the right reasons. Felicia, who holds master’s degrees in health care administration and speech language pathology, writes novels featuring strong female characters who face trauma, tragedy, and real-world dilemmas—always anchored by Christian faith and ethical choices.

Together, they discuss how fiction can model kingdom impact, spark empathy, and equip Christians of all ages to handle adversity with faith. Felicia Ferguson reveals the inspiration behind her latest works, including "When Secrets Come Calling" and "The Choices She Made." She shares how her own professional and personal experiences—like navigating the loss of a parent or working with dementia patients—inspire her realistic, hope-filled storylines.

Key Insights & HighlightsWrestling with Trauma through Faith

Felicia's characters don’t avoid pain or gloss over difficult situations—like sexual assault, family secrets, or dementia. Instead, they walk through the challenges, lean into God, and make decisions rooted in biblical principles.

The Power of Redemptive Fiction

As Catherine notes, many Christian entertainment options simply sanitize secular stories without offering real answers or hope. In contrast, Felicia Ferguson’s novels show what it looks like to grieve, heal, and find identity in Christ—even if life doesn’t tie up with a pretty bow.

Identity Beyond Circumstance

A recurring theme in the conversation is pursuing an identity rooted not in career, family roles, or past mistakes—but in being a beloved child of God. In Felicia’s words: "Who I am intrinsically is who God created me to be."

Stories That Heal and Equip

Whether it’s helping readers process trauma or showing how to biblically navigate hard conversations, Felicia Ferguson’s ultimate goal is kingdom impact: “I want my characters to have that same experience because...I don’t see that enough in the Christian market.”

Real-Life Application

Catherine and Felicia discuss how stories—whether on the page or in real life—can prepare us as parents to face giants, support our kids through hardships, and remind us that healing and hope are possible through Christ.

Guest Bio

Felicia Ferguson is an award-winning author with master’s degrees in Health Care Administration and Speech Language Pathology. After a decade in the Florida Panhandle and a career as a speech therapist, Felicia now writes full-time from Colorado. Her passion is crafting women’s fiction featuring strong female leads who confront trauma and tragedy using biblical principles. Felicia’s uniquely encouraging perspective blends professional expertise with a heartfelt desire for kingdom impact, both in fiction and in life.

Episode Resources

• Felicia’s Website & Book Links

• "When Secrets Come Calling" 

• "The Choices She Made" 

• Catherine Segars Resources

Do you and your children have wholesome models for processing trauma, wrestling with identity, and making faith-based decisions? In a culture that defines us by achievements, roles, or wounds, how can you point your family toward finding identity and hope in Christ?

Tune in for encouragement, inspiration, and summer reading that truly makes a difference!

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Are you laying the right foundation for your child’s mental health? The answer may be more crucial—and more surprising—than you think.

On this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine sits down with Dr. Bill Senyard, an accomplished author, veteran pastor, and the creator of the acclaimed "Good Enough Parent" curriculum, for a candid, practical, and hope-filled conversation about strengthening our kids' mental health from the inside out.

We live in an age where children are struggling with anxiety, depression, and disconnection more intensely than ever before. As Catherine points out, the mental health crisis is at critical mass—and Christian parents cannot afford to ignore the warning signs.

Connectedness & Enoughness: The Two Pillars of Mental Health

Drawing from the latest neuroscience and attachment theory, Dr. Bill Senyard breaks down the core needs all children have for mental health:

• Connectedness: “Does someone really have my back?”

• Enoughness: “Am I lovable as I am?”

He unpacks how a child’s sense of security is built or broken—not through logic, lectures, or even discipline alone—but through a parent’s ability to attune to their child’s emotions:

“The process of a parent feeling the child's feeling, absorbing those feelings, and reflecting them back... so the baby knows they've been seen, heard, and understood.”

Attachment Styles: Which One Describes Your Child ... Or You?

Dr. Bill Senyard and Catherine discuss the four primary attachment styles that shape every child’s approach to life and relationships:

• Secure: Resilient, optimistic, comfortable in their own skin

• Avoidant: Self-reliant but disconnected, often lonely

• Anxious: Hungry for attention and affirmation, high-maintenance, struggles to self-soothe

• Fearful: Marked by deep wounds, vacillating between withdrawal and outbursts—often in need of professional help

Listeners will learn practical ways to spot these styles in their children (and themselves) and discover how to attune to each type’s specific needs—whether it’s giving space to the avoidant child or consistently pouring words of enoughness into the anxious.

Takeaways for Christian Parents

• Attunement—not arguments or advice—lays the foundation for your child’s mental health.

• Repairing the inevitable relational breaks starts with genuine humility: “I'm sorry. I was wrong. Please forgive me.”

• Our ability to connect with our kids flows from how deeply we experience God’s love and grace ourselves.

• There is hope and healing available—even for “epic fail” parents and broken kids.

About Dr. Bill Senyard

Host of the "Gospel Rant" podcast and seasoned pastor, Dr. Senyard brings decades of experience in ministry, family life, and counseling. His "Good Enough Parent" program is packed with free, actionable tools rooted in gospel grace, neuroscience, and practical wisdom.

Call to Action

What is your child’s attachment style? Where has connectedness or enoughness broken down—and what small step can you take this week to rebuild the bridge? Visit goodenoughparent.online for free resources, and consider how God’s irrational love for you could transform the way you parent.

Have you experienced the power of humble apology and attunement in your family? Share your story and join the conversation with other Christian parents committed to raising mentally healthy kids in a crazy world!

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Mental health challenges among our kids are at an all-time high—and as parents, it can feel overwhelming to know where to start.

May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and in this timely and enlightening episode, Catherine goes straight to the heart of the matter: What are the greatest mental health needs of our children, and what can we actually do about them as Christian parents?

Catherine is joined by Dr. Bill Senyard, an experienced pastor, ministry founder, podcast host, and author of over a dozen books on critical topics like forgiveness and God’s love for the unlovable. Drawing from both neuroscience and biblical wisdom, Dr. Bill Senyard highlights two foundational needs every child (and parent!) has: connectedness and enoughness.

Episode Highlights

• Crisis by the Numbers: Suicide and sadness are rising. Social media and shame are fueling a loneliness epidemic.

• Attachment Theory & The Gospel: Dr. Bill Senyard shows how both science and Scripture agree: Every child needs unconditional connectedness and the certainty that they are enough, no matter what.

• Shame vs. Security: Learn why so many kids (and adults) secretly believe God or their parents are disappointed in them—and how that undermines their mental health and relationship with God.

• Attunement in Action: Discover the “drip, drip, drip” strategy—intentional, random affirmation and connection in at least one in three interactions, proven to nurture healthy brains and souls.

• A Second Chance in Adolescence: Missed opportunities can be repaired! Dr. Bill Senyard explains how parents can restore connection and belonging, even after difficult seasons.

• A Father’s Example: Hear the moving letter Dr. Bill Senyard wrote to his son, modeling how to declare unshakeable love and acceptance, even amid clashes and failures.

“Every child needs at least one adult who is irrationally crazy about him or her.”
— Yuri Bronfenbrenner, as quoted by Dr. Bill Senyard 

Guest Bio: Dr. Bill Senyard

Dr. Bill Senyard is a pastor, ministry leader, host of the Gospel Rant podcast, and prolific author on topics like biblical parenting, forgiveness, and God’s love. He holds advanced degrees in theology and brings decades of experience as a spiritual guide, management consultant, and innovator. His work focuses on merging cutting-edge neuroscience—especially attachment theory—with practical, biblical truth that transforms families.

Episode Resources

• Catherine’s Free Resources & Newsletter

• Good Enough Parent program & Gospel Rant Podcast by Dr. Bill Senyard

Call to Action

Are you helping your child feel deeply connected and truly enough in your eyes—and God’s? This week, make a conscious effort in at least one out of every three interactions to affirm your child’s value and your unwavering love, especially during tough moments. Watch how it strengthens both their mental health and your bond!

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What if your family could experience faith that stretches far beyond your front door—all while riding to soccer practice or gathered around the dinner table?

This week on Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine invites listeners into a heart-expanding conversation designed to inspire parents and kids alike to join God's great story—as it unfolds across the globe. The mission: to help families connect with the courage, compassion, and steadfast faith of believers worldwide, and to see how their own lives can make a difference right where they are.

Through captivating real-life stories—ranging from kitchens in Kenya to war-torn Ukraine—Catherine and guest Kristy Graham reveal practical ways every family can nurture a global perspective, build spiritual resilience, and become world-changers for Christ.

Meet the Guest

Kristy Graham is the host of On the Ground, a podcast from Samaritan’s Purse that takes listeners straight to the heart of God’s work in the world. A mother of four navigating life at the crossroads of parenting and international ministry, Kristy weaves together firsthand reports from refugee camps, surgery wards, and disaster response teams, making global transformation tangible for every family. With years of service alongside her husband Edward Graham (of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritan’s Purse), she stands as an authentic voice encouraging parents to raise kids with wide-open eyes, anchored in a big, bold faith.

In This Episode

• Why stories of sacrifice and courage from places like Sudan, Kenya, and Ukraine can anchor your family’s faith—and how to bring those stories into everyday life

• The Amani Ya Juu Project: How women escaping tragedy sew brokenness into celebration and “peace from above”—and how their journey can encourage both parents and kids

• Children’s Heart Project: The ripple-effect of transforming lives—how a single surgery can change an entire community

• An Unforgettable Testimony: A missionary pilot held hostage whose story of compassion and hope will keep your whole family riveted

• Practical ways to model compassion, perspective, and obedience—whether you’re a nurse, a catering manager, or teaching kindness at your kitchen sink

• Why every family can be part of the Great Commission—right from home

Notable Quote:

“Even if we aren’t getting what we want, we’re getting what we need. The Lord is with us. His presence is…enough.” — Kristy Graham

Episode Resources:

The Children's Heart Project

Amani Ya Juu (website & online store)

On the Ground with Samaritan's Purse Episodes mentioned:

• Brokenness, Transformation, and Celebration: Amani Ja Juu

• Plane Hijacked in Africa: The Pilot's Story Part 1

• Plane Hijacked in Farica: The Pilot's Story Part 2

• Ukrainian Pastor Shares from the Front Lines

• Suffering for Christ's Sake (Rebuilding 500 Churches in Sudan)

• The Great Commission is for Everyone — On the Ground Podcast

Takeaway for Christian Parents

Let these stories spark new conversations in your home—about gratitude, compassion, and what it truly means to follow Jesus wherever He leads.

How could your family join God’s global story—starting right where you are today?

Listen now and discover the adventures, faith, and joy God wants to unleash in your family—no passport required.

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What if the world measured motherhood, not by perfection or public acclaim, but by quiet courage, surrender, and faith? In this heartfelt Mother’s Day episode of Christian Parent Crazy World, Catherine invites celebrated author and mentor Rhonda Stoppe to lift the veil on the real stories of the moms of the Bible—fearless, flawed, faithful, and sometimes forgotten women whose lives still shape generations.

Drawing from her acclaimed new book, Moms of the Bible: Life Changing Lessons from the Fearless, Flawed, and Faithful, Rhonda Stoppe brings wisdom honed by decades of ministry, parenting, and podcasting (Old Ladies Know Stuff). Together, Catherine and Rhonda Stoppe explore what it means to mother in a world obsessed with perfection, reminding listeners that God’s view of motherhood is radically different—and infinitely more freeing.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

God Sees and Honors Moms—Even When No One Else Does
Scripture overflows with stories of mothers just like you—women who wrestled, wept, waited, and worshiped as God unfolded His plans in unexpected ways. While culture often dismisses the daily work of mothering as mundane or menial, Catherine and Rhonda Stoppe reveal how the Bible places immense value on those unseen acts of love and faithfulness.

From Mary’s Brave Surrender to Rebecca’s Mistakes

• Hear how Mary, the mother of Jesus, chose courageous “yes” in the face of misunderstanding and rejection, modeling trust in God’s unseen plans.

• Explore Rebecca’s story—a tale of good intentions gone awry as she tries to “help” God’s promises along, unleashing sibling rivalry and a generational legacy.

• Learn that God works through flawed, real women, not perfect ones, and that repentance and humility write a new story for us and our children.

The Power and Danger of Partiality

• Rhonda Stoppe uncovers the lasting damage of favoritism in families, drawing from biblical narratives and honest reflections on her own upbringing.

• Listeners are encouraged to honestly assess their parenting, seek God’s agape love, and pursue forgiveness and restoration when favoritism has taken root.

When You Feel like the Mom with No Name

• Sometimes, a mother’s extraordinary impact is never recognized by the world—or even, at times, by her own children.

• The story of David’s unnamed mother powerfully affirms the kingdom value of unseen, faithful work.

• “The influence of unnamed mothers has shaped nations, inspired leaders, nurtured artists and motivated ordinary children to accomplish extraordinary achievements.” – Rhonda Stoppe

Real Talk: Healing from Deep Wounds

• In a moving post-interview segment, Rhonda Stoppe addresses the pain of those raised by abusive mothers through the biblical story of Herodias and her daughter, offering hope, the necessity of Christ-centered forgiveness, and the invitation to seek healing through biblical counseling.

Why This Matters

In a culture that honors mothers with a day, but often disenfranchises the work of motherhood, this episode re-centers the sacredness, complexity, and generational reach of a mother’s influence. Catherine and Rhonda Stoppe invite you to see your mothering through the eyes of God—full of purpose, dignity, and hope.

About the Guest

Rhonda Stoppe is a bestselling author, speaker, mom of four, and grandmother of fifteen. Known for her practical wisdom and biblical insight, Rhonda is host of the Old Ladies Know Stuff podcast and beloved mentor to moms and grandmothers across the nation. Her books, including Moms Raising Sons to Be Men and Real Life Romance, equip Christian families for generational impact.

Reflect & Respond

Which mom’s story resonated most with you—fearless Mary, flawed Rebecca, faithful Hannah, or a nameless mother who faithfully packed lunches and taught quietly in her home? What might change in your parenting if you saw yourself as called and seen by God, not defined by comparison or invisibility?

Notable takeaway:

“God doesn’t need perfection. He’s just looking for surrender. He works through the ordinary, the overlooked, and, yes, even the messy moments of motherhood to accomplish His extraordinary plans.” — Catherine

Call to Action:
This week, seek out a godly mentor—or encourage another mom who might feel forgotten. Your story matters. Your daily yes to God matters. How will you step boldly into your unique season of motherhood, trusting that God shapes generations through faithful, ordinary women?

Listen now and be refreshed—motherhood, in all its mess and glory, is sacred work in the hands of God.

Episode Resources

• Rhonda’s Website & Resources:
  noregretswoman.com (Free first chapter, video curriculum, articles, and more)

• Moms of the Bible: Life Changing Lessons from the Fearless, Flawed, and Faithful
  On Amazon

• Rhonda’s Podcast:
  Old Ladies Know Stuff Podcast

• Rhonda’s YouTube Channel:
  Rhonda Stoppe, No Regrets Woman

• Connect with Catherine & Free Parenting Resources:
  Free faith-filled resources for parents, including prodigal bundles, scripture lists, and more at catherinesegars.com

• Biblical Counseling Directory:
  Association of Certified Biblical Counselors (ACBC)

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“You can be anything you want to be!” It’s the mantra of our age—a message pumped into children by movies, books, and even well-meaning parents. But is it true? Is it biblical? Or is there a deeper, more fulfilling truth that Christian parents should pursue with their kids?

In this weighty and relatable episode, Catherine unpacks the ever-present cultural myth that our kids can become whoever—or whatever—they dream, simply with enough hard work and imagination. Drawing from a heartfelt conversation with a devoted fellow parent at the ballfield, Catherine dives into the pressures parents feel to support every whim and wish, regardless of reality, gifting, or God’s design.

What Listeners Will Discover

• The distinction between cultural slogans and biblical truth—and why not every dream is planted by God.

• How the “follow your heart” advice is more Hallmark than Holy Scripture (04:43), and what happens when Christian parents simply echo the world’s encouragements.

• The story of Catherine’s baseball-loving young son, who declared, “God made me to play baseball,” and how it led Catherine to wrestle with what she should tell a child with a passionate, even possibly divinely inspired longing (06:57).

• A thoughtful review of the Christian film The Hill, which draws on the motif of David and Goliath but falls into the “prosperity gospel” trap, promising that faith alone guarantees earthly success (14:00). The real-life epilogue is more sobering—and more biblically honest.

• What it actually means to “do all things through Christ who gives me strength” (18:48), as Catherine carefully walks parents through the context of Philippians 4 and the secret of contentment, regardless of whether dreams come true.

• A practical, grace-filled response any Christian parent can use when their child dreams big—pointing them toward pursuing God’s purpose above personal ambition (22:49).

Notable Moments

“When my fourth child sat on my lap at the ripe age of six and told me he wants to be a Major League baseball player, he actually said, ‘Mom, God made me to play baseball.’ … I do know this: You can be whoever God created you to be, and whoever that is is amazing and awesome and it’s going to fulfill you more than anything else in life.” (23:28)

As a powerful takeaway, Catherine urges parents to help their kids seek to become who God designed them to be—not just anyone or anything the world applauds—reminding listeners that “God’s plan is the best plan,” even when it diverges from childhood dreams or cultural scripts.

Reflect & Respond

How can you encourage your children to dream boldly, while also helping them discover and pursue God’s unique calling for their lives? What steps can you take to align your parenting with God’s larger story, even when it means letting go of your own or your child’s expectations?

Tune in for real-life wisdom, biblical encouragement, and practical steps to parent with hope, faith, and purpose in a world full of crazy (and not always truthful) messages.

Episode Links

• The Hill (2023)

• Rudy (1993)

• The Rookie (2002)

• Philippians 4 – Bible Gateway

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What story is shaping your child’s life? In a world swirling with competing narratives and cultural confusion, it’s more crucial than ever for Christian parents to help kids understand that they are living inside of God’s bigger story.

In this powerful episode, Catherine sits down with seasoned ministry leaders and authors Randy and Rozanne Frazee, co-authors of Encountering God's Love from Genesis to Revelation. With over four decades of marriage, four children, and five grandchildren, the Frazees know first-hand the joys and the heartaches of parenting—and what grounds a family’s faith through it all.

Many of us grew up knowing fragmented Bible stories—Noah and the ark, David and Goliath—but not the overarching story that ties it all together. When our faith is reduced to a list of rules or isolated lessons, it’s fragile. Our children are left vulnerable to doubt, anxiety, and cultural currents when the storms of life hit.

The Frazees invite listeners to see Scripture as a unified, breathtaking narrative: a love story of creation, fall, rescue, and redemption. Drawing from decades of pastoral experience, Randy shares why it’s vital for families to understand that the Bible isn’t just a rule book—it’s the true story of reality, and your family has a part to play:

“If you’re going to be in church for even a year, you should be able to stand up and talk from Genesis all the way to Revelation—not in great detail, but enough to see that it’s one story,” Randy observes.

Listeners learn:

• The difference between just knowing Bible stories and knowing the Story—and why the latter is critical for resilient faith.

• How connecting the dots of God’s upper (divine) and our lower (day-to-day) stories helps kids find meaning, hope, and identity—even in messy, confusing seasons.

• Why communal Bible engagement (as a family or church) is transformational, not just individually but across generations.

• Practical ways to bring faith conversations into everyday family moments, including how mealtimes can become opportunities to discuss God’s story.

• How to maintain relationship, speak the truth in love, and remain hopeful when walking through prodigal seasons with your children.

• Why parents can be liberated by trusting God for the results, recognizing that only He causes the growth—even when we’ve been faithful but don’t see immediate fruit.

Catherine and her guests get real, sharing personal stories of loss, pain, prodigal children, and disappointment—and how reframing these moments in light of God’s bigger plan brings powerful hope, healing, and perspective. Rozanne movingly recounts her own prayers for a wandering child and what it means to wait, hope, and never cut off relationship as God writes new chapters.

“We have to understand—we’re not inviting God into our story. He’s inviting us into His." ~Catherine

If you’ve ever struggled with the pain of unanswered prayers or wondered how to talk to your kids when life doesn’t make sense, this episode will encourage and equip you to anchor your family in the only story that matters.

Are you helping your kids see themselves as main characters in God’s unfolding story—or as authors of a tale they're left to figure out on their own? This episode will inspire you to set your family’s narrative inside the greatest love story ever told.

Don’t miss this conversation—and consider: how can you help your children see beyond the “lower story” moments of today to the “upper story” that God is writing through their lives?

About the Guests:

Randy and Rozanne Frazee
Randy Frazee is Pastor Emeritus of Westside Family Church, author of The Story, and visionary leader whose work has revitalized churches nationwide; Rozanne Frazee is a writer and compassionate speaker passionate about biblical literacy in families. Together, their newest work, Encountering God’s Love: From Genesis to Revelation, is equipping families to rediscover how the Bible fits together and how every child (and parent!) can find their place in God’s unfolding story.

EPISODE LINKS & RESOURCES:

• Encountering God’s Love: From Genesis to Revelation (recommended for families, church groups, and homeschoolers)

• Randy Frazee's website: randyfrazee.com
• The Story Bible engagement campaign

• The Jesus Storybook Bible (for young children)

• Catherine's Free Resources for Parents

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The everyday choices parents make may matter more than anything else—especially in shaping a child’s faith and future. It’s not the grand gestures, but the consistent, authentic moments—shared meals, honest conversations, and humble apologies—that lay the foundation for a lasting legacy. In a culture that often undermines Christian values, the daily witness of a parent’s genuine faith speaks louder than any church service or lesson. These ordinary routines are where children see faith lived out, and where their beliefs and character take root

In this episode, host Catherine sits down with renowned guests Randy and Rozanne Frazee, a couple married for forty-four years, with four grown children and a legacy of lived faith. Randy, pastor emeritus of Westside Family Church and acclaimed author, together with Rozanne, who brings a warm, grounded wisdom and coauthored their bestselling book Real Simplicity, share personal stories and practical insights into the significance of authentic, everyday Christian parenting.

Key Insights & Takeaways

• More Than a Label: Discover the striking difference between nominal ("Christian in name only") families and homes where faith is consistently lived out, imperfectly but authentically.

• Sacred Tables: Learn how the dinner table becomes more than a refueling stop—it’s a sacred gathering, mirroring biblical feasts and communion, where something dies so the family can live.

• Modeling Vulnerability: Hear how parents who own their mistakes, invite tough questions, and provide space for doubts create a safe place for kids to wrestle with and own their faith.

• Science & Scripture: Unpack the neuroscience and statistics behind family meals: a Columbia University study reveals that five shared dinners a week dramatically reduce risks of substance abuse and other pitfalls.

• Practical Strategies for Every Family: Get ideas for starting small—one intentional meal a week, using technology (like family video calls), and simplifying meal planning with tools and teamwork.

• Anecdotes that Inspire: Listen to Randy’s transformation as a 14-year-old in a warm Christian home, and Rozanne’s moving story of a college guest brought to tears just by being asked to share her day.

Notable Moments & Quotes

"Messages come and go. But relationships—parents who live their faith authentically day in and day out—shape a child’s life forever."
– Catherine Segars 

“It is not about perfection; it’s about authenticity. The table is not just a place to eat—it’s the place to truly live and pass on the faith.”
– Randy Frazee

Meet the guests:

Randy Frazee is pastor emeritus of Westside Family Church in Kansas City, the author of numerous influential books including The Story, Believe, and The Joy Challenge. He is recognized nationally for his teachings on the intersection of faith and daily life.

Rozanne Frazee is a coauthor (with Randy) of Real Simplicity and a sought-after speaker on family, faith, and authentic living. Her warm insights on building strong, honest relationships have encouraged Christians for decades.

Married for over forty years, the Frazees have four grown children, several grandchildren, and a passion for strengthening families by making faith a lived reality.

Episode Resources

• Randy and Rozanne Frazee’s Website & Writings

• Encountering God's Love from Genesis to Revalation

• Real Simplicity: Making Room for Life – the Frazees’ book on creating family rhythms that matter

• Encountering God’s Love from Genesis to Revelation – their newest release, discussed in the next episode

• Catherine's Free Resources for parents

Think On This

Are you making space in your home for authentic faith to be lived out? What one simple shift could you make this week to draw your family closer—to each other and to God?

Tune in for inspiration, practical wisdom, and a renewed vision for parenting God’s way. Don’t miss the next episode, where Randy and Rozanne unveil the heart behind their new book, Encountering God's Love from Genesis to Revelation.

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How Do We Prepare Our Kids’ Faith for Secular College? Start Here.

Few things strike fear in the heart of Christian parents like sending a child to a secular university and wondering, “Will their faith survive?” Recent research shows nearly two-thirds of young adults raised in the church disengage from faith or Christian community after leaving home—a heartbreaking statistic for families who have labored in love and prayer for nearly two decades.

In this episode, Catherine sits down with Dr. Steven Hall, a respected professor at Lee University with decades of experience in pastoral ministry, counseling, and spiritual formation. Dr. Hall brings not only academic insight but a father’s hard-won wisdom—his own daughter lost her faith at a secular arts high school, plunging his family into a prodigal journey that every Christian parent fears.

Key Insights and Takeaways:

• It Can Happen to Any Family: Dr. Hall shares with powerful honesty how, despite prayerful and intentional parenting—including homeschooling and Christian education—his daughter’s faith was overturned in just two weeks at a new school. “We put her in the school, and two weeks later, they stole her,” he recalls, highlighting how the environment and sense of belonging can reshape beliefs almost overnight.

• The Power of Allies: Both Dr. Hall and Catherine underscore the vital importance of allies: teachers, mentors, counselors, and Christian communities who support and reinforce the faith and values parents instill. “You need an ally in your parenting. Pray for those allies…steward those relationships well,” Dr. Hall urges.

• Formation Over Information: As children grow, the need to belong and to form identity intensifies—especially in the teen and college years. Dr. Hall explains, “If you have an environment where your child believes they can belong and retain their faith, you are preparing good ‘soul soil’ for lasting fruit.”

• Consistent Adequacy—Not Perfection: Parents often carry guilt over prodigal seasons, but Dr. Hall and Catherine offer hope: even God, the perfect parent, had children who chose rebellion. “You don’t have to be exceptional—just consistently adequate,” Dr. Hall reassures, stressing faithfulness over perfection.

• Practical Soul-Forming Rhythms: Sabbath, prayer, fasting, and engaging in faith routines as a family are crucial. “We’re not just training for faith, we’re shaping a way of life,” says Dr. Hall.

• There Is Good News: Encouraging research from Barna now shows a rise in personal commitment to Jesus and Bible reading among Gen Z and Millennials. The hunger for authentic, lived faith is growing—and parents can help nurture that by living and modeling genuine discipleship.

Anecdotes & Notable Quotes:

• “If you want to protect your child from the negative influences of the world, when they're about seven, put them in a barrel and feed them through the knothole. At fourteen, plug the knothole. There's no foolproof method!”—Dr. Hall (quoting Mark Twain)

• “God is not looking for extraordinary, perfect parents. He’s looking for consistency. Trust the creature to the Creator.”

About the Guest:
Dr. Steven Hall is Associate Professor of Pastoral Ministry at Lee University, with a doctorate in Spiritual Formation and decades serving as a Church of God minister, clinical pastoral counselor, and founder of Ministry Oasis—a resource dedicated to the soul health of ministry families.

Are you praying for allies to join you in shepherding your child’s soul? Who are the people and communities partnering with you for the spiritual health of your family? Share your journey, struggles, and wins—and remember: you don’t have to do this alone. Tune in and find the encouragement, practical wisdom, and hope that God is still writing your child’s story.

Episode Links & Resources

Ministry Oasis
Dr. Steven Hall’s website offers free resources for soul health, spiritual disciplines, Sabbath practices, and more—especially helpful for pastors and their families, but practical for all parents.
Visit Ministry Oasis

Barna Research – Youth Exodus & Spiritual Renewal

• New Research: Belief in Jesus Is on the Rise, and It’s Fueled by Younger Adults (Apr 2024)

• Millennials and Gen Z Drive a Bible Reading Comeback (Nov 2023)

• Gen Z, Millennials, and the Changing State of Faith in America

Soul Health Planning, Sabbath & Family Rhythms

• Soul Health Plan PDF, Sabbath Practice Guides, Video Library

• Dr. Hall’s sermon series and practical tips for sabbathing with young children

Scripture Prayers & Prodigal Bundle
Catherine’s free resources for parents—Scripture lists, prayer guides, and her ebook for raising children in a faith-challenging culture.
Subscribe to Catherine Segars’ Website for The Prodigal Bundle

Recommended Books

• The Domestic Monastery by Ronald Rolheiser

• God in My Everything: How an Ancient Rhythm Helps Busy People Enjoy God by Ken Shigematsu

• The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

• Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter Scazzero

Want prayer or a network of allies?
Email Catherine directly at catherine@catherinesegars.com or subscribe to her site for encouragement, practical faith-filled resources, and ways to connect with praying parents.

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How can Christian parents safeguard their children in a world where sexual exploitation is hidden in plain sight—even within their own homes?

In this crucial episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine welcomes Dr. Rondy Smith, founder and CEO of Rest Stop Ministries—the first long-term residential restoration program in Tennessee for female survivors of sex trafficking. Dr. Smith brings decades of frontline experience walking with women through profound trauma toward hope and restoration.

The conversation delves into one of the most urgent questions facing parents today: “How can we protect our kids from being sexually exploited?” Drawing on powerful personal stories—including a heart-wrenching letter from a survivor whose abuse spanned eight years without her parents’ knowledge—Dr. Smith exposes the shocking reality: predators are often familiar faces, and exploitation is happening everywhere, not just distant or impoverished places.

Key insights and takeaways:

• Myth-Busting: Over 60% of victims know their traffickers; they could be family friends, relatives, or acquaintances. Familiarity is not safety.

• Cybersex Trafficking: Dr. Smith recounts how online predators exploit children’s innocence and manipulate them through social media and gaming platforms, turning everyday devices into “porn boxes” with unfettered access to vulnerable youth.

• Warning Signs: Parents must trust their intuition and watch for behavioral changes such as panic over losing access to devices or withdrawal from routine activities.

• Open Communication: Survivors say they wish someone had intervened sooner—parents must foster safe spaces where children feel supported, not judged, regardless of what has happened.

• Hope and Restoration: No matter how deep the trauma, God is able to bring healing. Stories shared in the episode highlight recovery, reconciliation, and new beginnings for survivors and their families.

Notable moments include Rondy's passionate call for parents to “think like a predator”—not out of fear, but out of wisdom and love for their children. The episode closes with a moving time of prayer and encouragement, affirming that Christian parents are called to be active peacemakers: to engage, educate, and advocate for their kids and their communities.

Quote from the episode:
"Wherever your kids are, the predators are there. We have to begin thinking like a predator and know that they’re out there." – Dr. Rondy Smith

Anecdote:
The episode features a survivor’s letter detailing eight years of secret exploitation, her eventual disclosure, and her journey to healing—a story that could “be happening in your home right now and you don’t know it,” as Catherine observes.

Call to Action:
Have you built an open channel of communication with your children? Are you prepared to spot the signs and have the hard conversations, even when it’s uncomfortable?

Take today's conversation beyond the episode—pray, seek wisdom, and consider supporting ministries like Rest Stop. Share this episode and equip your family for the world we live in. Because awareness, prevention, and restoration are not just vital—they are part of our calling as Christian parents.

EPISODE LINKS:

• Learn more about Rest Stop Ministries: reststopministries.org

• Rest Stop: Instagram, Facebook, Twitter

• The Exodus Road: What Are Human Trafficking Warning Signs?

• NCOSI: National Center on Sexual Exploitation 

• Subscribe for free parenting bundles at catherinesegars.com

Tune in to learn the truth, equip yourself, and make your home a place where darkness cannot hide.

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Sex Trafficking: A Crisis Closer Than You Think

Sex trafficking is one of the greatest human rights crises of our time—a dark, shocking reality that is not just happening “somewhere else,” but in neighborhoods and communities across America. In this crucial episode, Catherine is joined by Dr. Rondy Smith, founder and CEO of Rest Stop Ministries, to confront the overwhelming issue of sex trafficking head-on and, more importantly, to explore what Christians can do about it.

A Call to Step Into the Darkness

Rondy didn’t become an activist because of a personal story—she stepped into this fight after witnessing the devastating effects of sexual exploitation on women she ministered to. In her journey from church leadership to founding the first long-term residential restoration program for female survivors in Tennessee, Rondy reveals the magnitude of the crisis:

• 27 million people currently enslaved worldwide

• 80% are female and over 50% are children trafficked for sexual exploitation

• Children as young as five are among the victims

The conversation brings these tragic numbers to life, grounding the issue in both global statistics and heartbreaking personal experiences.

Understanding the Hidden Reality

Listeners will get a vital overview of how sex trafficking operates—not just through stereotypes like “street prostitution,” but in more insidious forms such as:

• The “boyfriend syndrome,” where traffickers pose as romantic partners

• Familial trafficking, where children are sold by family members due to poverty or addiction

These abuses touch every ZIP code in the United States, often hidden in plain sight.

Hope and Action: What Christians Can Do

But this episode goes beyond exposing darkness; it’s filled with practical insights and urgent encouragement for action. Catherine and Dr. Rondy Smith discuss:

• The importance of seeing victims as ourselves—rejecting the temptation to look away out of overwhelm or helplessness

• Biblical imperatives for confronting oppression and injustice, with powerful reference to scriptures like Proverbs 24:11

• How Rest Stop Ministries walks alongside survivors for years of restorative healing and reintegration

• Ways every Christian and every church can get involved, from supporting local ministries to prevention education

• A profound recognition of the spiritual battle involved—and a stirring call to pray for those on the front lines

A Personal Update: The Cost of the Battle

The episode closes with a deeply personal update from Catherine about ministry friends who stepped forward in faith to found a refuge for survivors, only to face their own heart-breaking trials. This underlines the costly battle against this evil and the desperate need for community support and prayer.

Guest Bio

Dr. Rondy Smith is an ordained minister, educator, mentor, and CEO of Rest Stop Ministries, a pioneering restoration program for female survivors of sex trafficking in Nashville, Tennessee. With decades of experience across ministry, academia, and leadership, she is deeply committed to the spiritual and practical healing of those marked by exploitation.

Important Resources

• Learn more or get involved at reststopministries.org

• Follow Rest Stop Ministries on Facebook, Instagram, and X 

• Pray for Rusty and Krista's ministry, Hope Filled Refuge, and for all on the front lines

• Rusty's Go Fund Me Page

Next Episode: Prevention and Protection

Don’t miss the next episode, where Dr. Rondy Smith returns to share how predators operate and essential steps Christian parents must take to safeguard their children.

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When your child comes home asking if science and faith can coexist, how will you answer?

In this eye-opening episode, Catherine takes on one of the most pressing battlegrounds for today’s Christian families: the supposed war between science and belief. Are young people right to think science has rendered God unnecessary? What do you do when biology class asks your kids to choose between facts and faith?

To help tackle these big questions, Catherine welcomes Allan Pereira, creative force and co-creator behind the new documentary series, The Science Dilemma. With a background in student ministry, creative arts, and Christian non-profits, Allan brings a thoughtful, accessible approach to making complex scientific discoveries understandable for everyone—especially parents and teens who don’t have a science degree.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Why Science Pushes Young Faith to the Edge
Unpack the cultural narrative that claims belief in God is “unscientific.” Catherine and Allan reveal why so many teens walk away from faith and how Darwinian evolution is presented not as theory, but as fact—even when the evidence leaves gaping holes.

The Power of Questioning “Settled Science”
Can science ever be truly settled? Discover why the spirit of honest inquiry is central to science—and how both believers and skeptics sometimes make the mistake of shutting down hard questions.

“The truth is—it's moving. You can put me in prison, but it's still moving.”
—Catherine, reflecting on Galileo’s courage to question the establishment

Unveiling the Case for Intelligent Design
Explore the three giant dilemmas rocking evolutionary theory:

• The machines inside the cell: Discover how molecular “machines” operate with mind-boggling complexity, resembling factories more than blobs of protoplasm.

• The code in our DNA: Learn why the existence of sophisticated genetic language points powerfully to an intelligent programmer. “There is no known existence of coded language without a programmer—and that's what we have in our cells,” says Catherine.

• What the fossils really say: Examine why the missing transitional fossils and the instant appearance of new body plans (the “Cambrian Explosion”) just don’t add up with classic Darwinian expectations.

The Science Dilemma’s Special Touch
From world-class experts like Dr. Stephen Meyer and Dr. Michael Behe to street interviews and a show-stopping arrowhead sorting experiment with a three-year-old, this series (and conversation) brings cutting-edge scientific discovery and child-like insight together to pose the question every one of us must answer: “Who made these?”

Equipping Ordinary Parents for Extraordinary Conversations
Feeling unqualified? Don’t be! Catherine and Allan remind you: “You don’t have to be an expert to step into these conversations with your kids. You just need the courage to sat, 'Let’s explore this together.’”

About the Guest:
Allan Pereira is the dynamic co-creator of The Science Dilemma docu-series and podcast. He’s a veteran of student ministry and creative communications, with years spent championing families and faith—including fighting for foster children, producing faith-based media, and equipping parents to disciple the next generation. While not a scientist by training, his journey proves that curiosity and obedience can change lives.

Why This Matters:
With “the mind” under attack in today’s secular culture, Christian parents must reclaim their place at the table. Resources like The Science Dilemma offer a compelling, user-friendly way to strengthen faith, equip teens, and show the world that Christianity can stand up to the toughest questions science can pose.

Modern Application:
Parents, take heart! Your voice—and your willingness to simply ask questions—can be the difference-maker for a child wrestling with doubt in an “anti-faith” world.

Episode Links:

• Watch or learn more about The Science Dilemma: thesciencedilemma.com

• Follow The Science Dilemma on YouTube and Instagram

• Follow Allan CP on Instagram

• Explore resources for parents at Catherinesegars.com

• Ben Stein's Exchange with Dr. Richard Dawkins
• Dr. John Lennox exchange "That's a very good question... I notice it was asked originally by a snake."

Thought-Provoking Question:
How are you preparing your family to handle questions that challenge both their faith and their intellect? What scares you most about engaging these conversations—and what might change if you simply said, "Let’s explore together"?

Tune in, and start building a faith that’s as resilient as it is reasonable—one conversation at a time.

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Life will throw you curveballs—but what does it take to overcome rather than become bitter, broken, or stuck?

Every parent knows the reality: plans fall apart, hearts break, and the future can look nothing like what we expected. In those moments, the temptation is to let disappointment, anger, or grief pull us away from God—or, worse, leave us stranded in bitterness and regret. But what if those hard seasons could press us deeper into faith, transforming us into true overcomers and not just survivors?

Moving From Crisis to Overcoming

In this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine welcomes guest Dr. Erin Barry, an expert counselor, author, and educational consultant with decades of experience supporting families through life’s most disorienting seasons. Picking up from their previous conversation—which focused on navigating crises—this episode goes further: revealing how to actually overcome and grow stronger through adversity.

What You'll Learn in This Episode

• How to Grieve and Process Honestly: Dr. Barry underscores the importance of recognizing loss in every transition, even “good” ones, and learning to sit with grief rather than avoid it.

• Breaking Free from Unrealistic Expectations: Catherine and Dr. Barry dismantle “Hallmark theology,” warning against the harm of unrealistic cultural ideals, and share how biblical truth brings lasting hope.

• Wrestling with God: The conversation explores how, like Jacob, we must bring our raw pain and questions directly to God, refusing to let go until He blesses us—even if the blessing looks different than we expect.

• Offering the Sacrifice of Praise: Catherine shares her personal testimony of practicing gratitude amid heartbreak, describing how worship in the difficult moments is precious to God and changes us.

• Solidifying Identity in Christ: Crisis shakes the foundations of who we are. Dr. Barry offers practical insight on anchoring your identity not in roles or achievements, but in Christ alone.

• Building a Circle of Support: Listeners are encouraged to seek empathetic friends and faith-based communities where they can process, pray, and celebrate victories together.

• Choosing Faith Over Fear: The episode emphasizes the importance of daily hope and steadfastness, holding on even when answers don’t come quickly.

Golden Takeaways

• “The winner isn’t the one who does it perfectly; it’s the one who stays steadfast, who stays in the game.”

• “If you want to make the enemy furious, offer the sacrifice of praise right in the middle of your heartbreak.”

About the Guest

Dr. Erin Barry, PhD in Christian Counseling, is a seasoned counselor, speaker, author, and co-founder of Home Educated Mind. Her blend of clinical expertise and biblical wisdom brings unique insight and practical tools to parents navigating tough seasons.

A Challenge for Christian Parents

What curveball are you facing right now—and where can you choose to move from surviving to overcoming? How are you anchoring your hope and identity in Christ when life doesn’t go as planned?

Tune in for inspiration and actionable wisdom—so when life gets crazy, your faith and your family can thrive.

Episode Resources

• inseparableLives.com – More about Dr. Erin Barry and her ministry.

• Yes, You Can Homeschool! The Terrified Parent’s Companion To Homeschool Success – Buy on Amazon

• catherinesegars.com – Catherine's free Christian parenting resources and newsletter.

• Christian Parent/Crazy World podcast archive

• Previous episodes:

  • When Life Unravels: Biblical Strategies for Life's Hardest Seasons (w/ Dr. Erin Barry)

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When Life Throws a Curveball: How to Stay Faithful When the Bottom Drops Out

Few challenges stretch a parent’s faith and emotional reserves more than life’s unexpected curveball seasons—the plot twists that leave you wondering, “God, what are you doing?” How do you remain anchored in truth when the bottom drops out?

This week on Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine welcomes back her very first guest and trusted friend, Dr. Erin Barry, to help parents not only survive, but find hope and stability in life’s most turbulent moments. Dr. Barry is a clinical Christian counselor, author, homeschool expert, and co-founder of inseparableLives.com. Her biblically grounded wisdom comes from over 30 years of walking families through the storms of life.

In this transparent and practical episode, Catherine gets real about her own season of loss, uncertainty, and a series of shocking life upheavals—from parenting a prodigal, to family moves, to sudden job loss. Using these stories as a backdrop, Dr. Barry unpacks essential biblical strategies for clinging to faith and finding stability when life feels out of control.

Key Insights & Takeaways

Find Your Safe Circle

Not everyone is equipped to carry the weight of your story. Dr. Barry urges listeners to seek out wise, mature friends or a counselor who can “sit in the ashes” with you—without minimizing, judging, or rushing your healing process.

“For seven days Job’s friends sat in silence—sometimes, that’s all we need.”

Grieve Without Comparison

Your pain is valid, even if others have it worse. This episode addresses the tendency to minimize your own suffering and offers permission to mourn at your own pace.

“Healing is not a competition—it’s a process.”

Honor Different Grieving Styles

Don’t expect everyone in your family to process pain the same way. Grace and patience protect relationships from being torn apart during crisis.

Anchor in Truth, Not Fear

When fear and catastrophic thinking take over, Dr. Barry encourages listeners to pause and return to “what is true today.” Worrying about every “what if” tomorrow is not God’s design.

“God promises what we need for today—not for every ‘what if’ tomorrow brings.”

Worship as a Weapon

True perspective and peace are found in worship, not just on Sundays, but in everyday moments. Worship redirects your focus to God’s character and faithfulness.

Embrace God’s Bigger Story

Even when God doesn’t “remove the rocks”—the hardships—He can “raise the water” and carry you over them, bringing profound good out of suffering.

Notable Moments

• Catherine shares how her perspective on parenting was upended by a prodigal child season and life transitions.

• Dr. Barry recounts her son’s diabetes diagnosis and how walking through pain has deepened her empathy and faith.

• Inspiring testimony of hope: The legacy of Ashley Averell and how God brings good from heartbreak, equipping and sending young people on mission.

“The greatest human tragedy—the Cross—became the foundation of our hope. God is still good, even when the rocks don’t move.”

About the Guest

Erin A. Barry is an author, speaker, counselor, and educational consultant. She holds a bachelor’s degree in education, an NCCA Masters of Arts, and Doctor of Clinical Christian Counseling. Erin’s passion is to see people walking in wholeness, body, soul, and spirit as God designed. She is the author of Yes, You Can Homeschool! The Terrified Parent’s Companion To Homeschool Success and, alongside her husband Brett, is co-founder of inseparableLives.com, a ministry devoted to nurturing Christ-centered hearts dedicated to oneness with God, spouse, and community.

Episode Resources

• inseparableLives.com – More about Dr. Erin Barry and her ministry.

• Yes, You Can Homeschool! The Terrified Parent’s Companion To Homeschool Success – Buy on Amazon

• catherinesegars.com – Catherine's free Christian parenting resources and newsletter.

• Christian Parent/Crazy World podcast archive

• Previous episodes:

  • How Can a Good God Allow So Much Evil and Suffering in the World?(w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis)

Call to Action

Are you in a season where your carefully written life script has been torn up? Do you wonder how to support your children when you yourself are shaken? Listen in for compassionate, biblically wise encouragement that brings both honesty and hope.

How do you model to your children what it means to grieve, persevere, and worship in the midst of disappointment? Share your thoughts or experiences—your story might encourage another parent walking a similar journey.

Don’t miss next week as Dr. Barry returns with more practical wisdom for navigating life’s greatest challenges—with faith, hope, and grace.

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Every Christian parent will, at some point, “blow it” with their kids—but what you do next could be the difference between wounds that linger and relationships that deepen.

In this special “Best Of” episode, host Catherine tackles one of the most universal and important questions in parenting: How do you reset when you’ve messed up with your kids? Whether it’s a moment of lost control, harsh words, or simply allowing daily stresses to overflow, the fallout can feel overwhelming. And yet, as Catherine reveals, these are the moments that matter most in shaping your child’s faith, resilience, and trust.

To guide listeners through this minefield, Catherine welcomes Kirsten Vossler, a mother of nine (now ten!)—and host of the Rejoicing in Motherhood podcast—who has worn just about every ministry hat imaginable: children’s pastor, worship leader, writer, conference speaker. Most importantly, she’s a “real life, grace-filled, occasionally blown it, but willing to repair” mom who believes that even when the stage gets smaller, the impact gets deeper.

In This Episode:

• Kirsten Vossler shares her “seven-step reset” for when relationships with your kids feel fractured, starting with the courage to just stop in the heat of the moment and physically remove yourself if needed.

• Both Catherine and Kirsten open up about their own imperfect moments—reminding listeners that every parent is in need of God’s grace and practical tools.

• Step-by-step, Kirsten offers ways to invite God into your frustration, humble yourself with heartfelt apologies (including the power of actually asking your child “Will you forgive me?”), and walk forward with tenderness, not guilt.

• They discuss the messy intersections of past wounds, present stressors, and the spiritual battle within, encouraging parents to invite the Holy Spirit to heal both their hearts and their children’s.

Notable Moments and Quotes:

• “Time doesn’t heal all wounds. If we ignore these moments, our kids carry them into adulthood.” – Catherine

• “Sometimes, we feel like the only options are to give up or give in—but there’s a better way: to reset, reconnect, and model humility.” – Kirsten Vossler

• Kirsten Vossler offers the truth: “Perfection isn’t the goal. Even the best parents can’t save or heal their kids completely. But we can model turning to Jesus—the only One who can.”

As Catherine sums it up, humility and repair don’t diminish your authority as a parent—they deepen trust and show your kids what grace looks like in real time.

About the Guest
Kirsten Vossler is a mama of nine (make that ten!), former children’s pastor and worship leader, and the gentle, authentic voice behind the Rejoicing in Motherhood podcast. Her steps have been forged in the crucible of daily life with a big family—and a bigger heart for connection and growth.

Parenting is crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.
This week, try Kirsten Vossler’s reset steps the next time you “lose it”—and notice how God meets you in your humility. How will you choose connection over perfection with your kids this week?

EPISODE LINKS:

Kirsten's Website & Podcast

Subscribe and invite Catherine into your parenting journey at catherinesegars.com for free resources, encouragement, and faith-filled insight. Parenting as a Christian may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.

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Nothing repairs a parent-child relationship—or models the heart of the gospel—more powerfully than eight humble words: “I’m sorry. I was wrong. Please forgive me.” In a world where authority is often prized over humility, Catherine shines a light on the crucial, yet challenging, words every parent must be willing to say.

In this deeply practical “Best Of” episode, Catherine explores why these eight words are harder to say than most—and how they carry the potential to transform the atmosphere of our homes. With her trademark honesty and grace, Catherine tackles the barriers parents face in admitting fault and offers biblically-grounded wisdom for restoring trust when we inevitably get it wrong.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

• The three critical objectives achieved when parents humbly apologize, including healing breaches in trust, modeling biblical repentance, and affirming your child’s growth and autonomy.

• Why saying “I’m sorry” isn’t always enough—and the importance of going beyond surface-level apologies to confessing, “I was wrong,” especially when our delivery lacks love.

• A breakdown of the four parenting phases—caregiver, cop, coach, and counselor—and how operating in the wrong one can damage relationships with older kids.

• Catherine’s actionable, eight bonus words: “What can I do to make it right?”—a powerful next step for restoration and collaboration with your child.

Rooted in 1 Corinthians 13, Catherine reminds listeners that even “if I speak with human eloquence and angelic ecstasy, but I don’t love, I’m nothing but the creaking of a rusty gate.” She vulnerably shares her own journey toward quicker humility and confesses her husband models this with grace she’s always striving to emulate.

Notable Quotes from This Episode:

• “Parenting really isn’t about perfection. It’s about formation—ours and theirs.”

• “Dictators last for a season. But at some point, there will be a citizens’ revolt.”

• “Our kids need to see humility and repentance from us.”

If you want a legacy of trust, openness, and faith in your family, tune in to learn the eight essential words every parent should have in their relational toolbox.

Ask Yourself:
When was the last time you told your child, “I was wrong. Please forgive me”? What might change in your home if humility and grace defined your relationship repairs?

Want more practical steps for rebuilding after mistakes? Don’t miss next week’s "best of" episode, where Catherine welcomes back Kirsten Vossler, host of the Rejoicing in Motherhood podcast, to share seven practical, grace-filled steps for resetting when you’ve blown it with your kids.

Subscribe and invite Catherine into your parenting journey at catherinesegars.com for free resources, encouragement, and faith-filled insight. Parenting as a Christian may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.

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Few topics divide opinion in the church like money. But what if much of what we've been taught about giving isn't truly biblical?

In this eye-opening episode, host Catherine welcomes Bible scholar and award-winning author, Clifton Payne Jr., to set the record straight on what the Bible really says about money, tithing, and generosity. They cut through decades of confusion and misinterpretation, addressing the guilt-driven giving, prosperity promises, and toxic church culture that have warped how Christians view their finances—and God's character.

Clifton Payne Jr. reveals little-known truths from scripture (including the fact that there were actually three different tithes in ancient Israel, not just one!) and explains how biblical principles of stewardship are often misunderstood or misapplied today.

What You Will Discover in This Episode:

• The deep mistrust many Christians have toward churches when it comes to money—and how church scandals, manipulation, and legalism fuel that distrust.

• Surprising discoveries like the three biblical tithes, special rules for ancient Israel, and what Jesus actually teaches about taxes, tithing, and giving.

• Why tithing is a model—not a requirement—for modern believers, and how generosity should flow from gratitude rather than obligation.

• The crucial principle of "first fruits": why giving God our best and first, not our leftovers, directly impacts the spiritual life of our families.

• The freedom found in New Testament giving, where the heart matters far more than the amount, and how generosity can be an antidote to materialism.

• Powerful stories—like the unforgettable account of Otzi, an African woman whose tiny, sacrificial gift became the greatest offering in the eyes of God.

The conversation is both practical and pastoral, exploring how to talk about money with your kids, build healthy giving habits, and reclaim joy in generosity—even if you’ve been wounded by church abuse around this issue in the past.

About the Guest:
Clifton Payne Jr. is the author of What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It's Different Than You Think, a book that has earned recognition from both the American Bookfest and International Book Awards. Drawing on years of pastoral ministry and biblical scholarship (including studies at Hebrew University in Jerusalem), Clifton untangles scripture from tradition, helping listeners return to the heart of God in their finances.

Key Takeaways for Listeners:

• Don’t start with guilt or pressure—start with prayer and let giving flow from what God puts on your heart.

• Giving first is a spiritual discipline that breaks the grip of materialism and invites God’s faithfulness into your life.

• Teaching kids to give as a first priority (not last, as our culture encourages) will shape their lifelong habits and trust in God.

• Generosity has enormous power to heal wounds, restore faith, and transform communities when practiced in freedom and love.

Episode Resources:
What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It’s Different Than You Think by Clifton H. Payne Jr. 

Catherine's Free Parenting Resources

Other Episodes in This Series:

EPISODE 175: When Leaders Exploit the Flock: A Biblical Response to Scandals ( w/ Clifton Payne Jr.)

EPISODE 174: Finding Financial Freedom: Breaking Free from Debt and Anxiety (w/ Jade Durham)

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When spiritual heroes fall, what happens to our faith—and that of our children? Financial manipulation and abuse within the church can leave deep wounds, shaking the foundation of trust and faith for entire families.

In this powerful episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine tackles one of the most urgent and painful issues affecting Christian families today: how to respond when trusted church leaders become charlatans, using their position for financial—or even sexual—exploitation. With real-life stories, audio clips, and biblical insight, this episode equips parents to guide their children through disappointment without abandoning the truth of the Gospel.

Joining Catherine is featured guest Clifton Payne Jr., pastor, writer, Hebrew University scholar, and author of What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It’s Different Than You Think. Having left the faith for fourteen years after witnessing financial abuse firsthand, Clifton Payne Jr. brings both scholarly expertise and personal experience to this heart-wrenching discussion.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Financial Abuse—A Widespread Scandal: Hear stories of pastors manipulating the vulnerable, including Clifton Payne Jr.’s grandmother and infamous televangelists promising “seed money” blessings for thousand-dollar gifts.
• Charlatans Across Denominations: It’s not just one stream of Christianity; financial and sexual misconduct strike churches everywhere—from charismatic circles to mainline denominations to the Catholic church.
• The Impact on Faith and Family: Discover why these betrayals don’t just hurt individuals—they threaten the faith of the next generation. Catherine lays bare how hypocrisy often drives children and parents alike away from church and sometimes, from God.
• Biblical Wisdom for Difficult Days: Get to the heart of the Bible’s teachings on money, tithing, and generosity. Clifton Payne Jr. strips away manipulation, revealing how God’s desire for our hearts is profoundly different from the “prosperity gospel” sales pitch.
• Honest Conversations at Home: Learn how to talk with your children about church scandals—without letting cynicism win. Public harm requires public correction, and as Christian parents, we are called to shepherd our homes by telling the truth.

Why This Matters:
This episode will challenge, grieve, and encourage you to see beyond the headlines and scandals. It’s a reminder that our faith must be rooted in Christ, not in flawed messengers. When parents grapple honestly with church failures and model God-honoring generosity, they provide children with a foundation that lasts beyond any scandal.

Modern Application:
Christian parents, are you prepared to shepherd your children through disappointment in the church? Are you modeling discernment, generosity, and faith that isn’t shaken by human failure?

About the Guest:
Clifton Payne Jr. is a pastor, writer, and biblical scholar with advanced study at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. His experiences with church financial abuse and long journey back to faith uniquely equip him to address manipulative money tactics and help families find biblical clarity in confusing times. His book, What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It’s Different Than You Think, is available on Amazon and other major booksellers.

EPISODE LINKS:

• Clifton Payne Jr.’s Book: What the Bible Really Says About Tithing and Giving: It’s Different Than You Think
• Subscribe to Catherine's resources for Christian parents on her website.
• Mike Winger’s Expose on Shawn Bolz & Bethel Church: The Skeletons in Bethel’s Closet Are Now Going to Speak
• Televangelists: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

Call to Action:
How are you preparing your children to discern truth in a world full of spiritual counterfeits? What honest conversations could you start this week—even in the face of heartbreak—to root their faith in Jesus, not fallen heroes?

Tune in next week as Catherine and Clifton Payne Jr. dig deeper into what the Bible really teaches about tithing and giving—setting your family free from confusion and manipulation.

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Few burdens weigh heavier on Christian parents than the relentless stress of financial uncertainty. How do we model faith, provide for our families, and cultivate peace amid mounting bills and pressure from every side?

With over 60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck and credit card interest rates soaring to 20% and above, there’s never been a more vital time for families to find clarity, freedom, and a biblical approach to their finances. Catherine and Jade Durham—both Lee University grads—openly discuss how financial stress affects marriages, emotional health, and even our ability to be godly parents in an ungodly world.

In this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine tackles one of the most pressing—and anxiety-inducing—challenges for families today: navigating debt, financial stress, and economic uncertainty with wisdom and hope.

Joining the conversation is Jade Durham, a certified personal financial counselor and vice president of Trinity Debt Management. With decades of experience guiding families toward clarity and freedom, Jade brings a comforting blend of empathy, practical advice, and spiritual perspective to the money challenges many listeners face.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• The Hidden Weight of Money Stress
  Learn how financial worries go far beyond bank statements, influencing marriages, parenting, emotional health, and even spiritual well-being.
• Breaking the Debt Cycle—Gracefully
  Jade Durham explains why so many well-meaning parents find themselves buried in debt—and why there’s no shame in seeking help or making a fresh start.
• Real Stories, Real Freedom
  Hear moving anecdotes of clients who, facing eviction, medical bills, or family upheaval, have found hope, restored dignity, and practical pathways to financial recovery.
• Spiritual Roots of Financial Stewardship
  Explore Trinity’s unique, biblically grounded approach to debt management, including a commitment to prayerful compassion, nonprofit ethics, and keeping faith at the center of every financial plan.
• Tools for Change
  Get actionable steps for budgeting, teaching kids about money early, rebuilding credit, and setting goals that align with both spiritual and financial health.

Why This Matters:
Financial pressure can make Christian parenting feel impossible. But this episode reminds us: God cares about every area of our lives—including our wallets. With faith, support, and the right tools, it is possible to break free from anxiety, model true stewardship, and open up new dreams for your family’s future.

A Call to Action:
What steps can you take this week to invite God into your family’s finances? Is it time for an honest budget conversation, reaching out for help, or simply asking for God’s guidance and peace in seasons of stress?

About the Guest:
Jade Durham is a certified personal financial counselor and Vice President of Trinity Debt Management, a nonprofit agency helping thousands reclaim their financial future with integrity and biblical values. Her warm, client-centered approach has changed countless lives.

Resources & Next Steps:

• Visit trinitycredit.org to learn more about faith-based debt solutions
• Need support? Call Trinity at 1-800-793-8548
• Free Parenting Resources at Catherine Segars Website

This episode is sponsored by Trinity Debt Management. If you are struggling with debt call Trinity today.  Trinity's counselors have the knowledge and resources to make a difference. Our intention is to help people become debt-free, and most importantly, remain debt-free for keeps!" If your debt has you down, we should talk. Call us at 1-800-793-8548 | https://trinitycredit.org

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Letting Go Isn’t Losing—It’s Trusting God with Your Children’s Future

How do you faithfully release your children into the world while still nurturing connection and influence? In this profoundly honest episode, host Catherine is joined by Jaime Hampton of the Praying Christian Women Podcast to tackle one of the most challenging—and transformative—realities of parenting: letting go.

For Christian parents, “letting go” isn’t about giving up; it’s about surrendering control, deepening trust, and transferring ownership of our children’s faith from our hands into God’s. Drawing from personal experience and biblical wisdom, Catherine and Jaime explore four distinct phases of parenting, revealing how to step back while keeping communication and relationship strong.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

The Four Phases of Parenting

• Caregiver: From diapers to first steps, parents meet every need.
• Cop: Setting boundaries and keeping children safe before they fully understand.
• Coach: Explaining the “why” behind rules as children mature.
• Counselor: Giving advice only when asked, respecting your adult child’s autonomy while remaining a trusted source of wisdom.

Jesus as the Model for Letting Go: In a powerful discussion on John 17, Jaime and Catherine reflect on how Jesus prepared His disciples, equipped them, and ultimately sent them out, because “greater works than these you will do.” Christ’s example gives parents a biblical blueprint for releasing children in faith, not fear.

Prayer—The Invisible Influence: Letting go doesn’t mean the end of parental influence. As Catherine says, “Our greatest influence over the lives of our kids happens on our knees.” Whether praying through a prodigal season or releasing a child to public school, parents have spiritual authority to intercede for their children, guided by God’s wisdom and timing.

MEET THE GUEST: Jaime Hampton is a wife and mother of three who recently relocated from Alaska to Utah with her family, embracing the challenges of a new climate and culture. With her eldest in college and two younger kids in school, Jaime co-hosts the Praying Christian Women podcast with her longtime friend and prayer partner, Alana Terry. Their show began as an outgrowth of their honest coffee-time conversations about faith and prayer, offering encouragement for women to grow spiritually.

EPISODE RESOURCES:

The Praying Christian Women Podcast

Jaime’s Website, Instagram, Substack

Catherine’s Website & Resources

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Prayer can feel perplexing—especially for Believers who want their words to shape eternity for their children and families. But what if you learned that unanswered prayers aren’t a sign of God’s absence, but an invitation to “lay the tracks” for His will on earth?

In this episode, Catherine joins forces with prayer advocate and author Jaime Hampton, co-host of the Praying Christian Women Podcast, to explore the deepest mysteries and highest privileges of prayer, guided by the wisdom of Watchman Nee’s landmark book Let Us Pray.

Together, they uncover why some prayers feel fruitless, how to discern God’s heart, and what it takes to persevere through spiritual bottlenecks. Drawing from personal stories—including Catherine’s journey to miraculous parenthood and Jaime’s awakening to the power of partnership in faith—they offer honest, hope-filled wisdom for anyone longing to pray with purpose.

🔑 Key Takeaways

• Prayer is Partnership: Prayer isn't about persuading God to bless our plans—it's about joining in His will and agreeing with what He already wants to do.
• Persistence Matters: God “waits until men and women agree with Him, and then He will work.” Perseverance and faith-filled persistence can be the difference between breakthrough and missed opportunity.
• God’s Will—and Yours: There are prayers according to our will, and prayers according to God’s will. Discovering which is which comes through intimacy, listening, time in scripture, and honest reflection.
• Authority Against the Enemy: As Christians, we’re given authority to stand in prayer against the one who steals, kills, and destroys—the enemy, not God. Outrage directed at spiritual opposition fuels powerful prayer.
• Your Prayers Unlock Destiny: Anecdotes from Catherine’s own life show that prayer can literally change the trajectory of a family, bringing children and miracles that only God could author.
• Prayerlessness Is a Bottleneck: Prayerlessness hinders the movement of God’s “train”—His plans require the tracks our prayers lay. Will you be the bottleneck or the channel of grace?
• Real Spiritual Warfare: Effective prayer means entering the heavenly courtroom with God’s Word as our legal defense, standing firm for what He has promised.

"Prayer doesn’t alter God’s plans; it achieves what He’s already foreordained. Without persistent, faith-filled prayer, His resolutions may go suspended."
– Watchman Nee (Let Us Pray)

🎧 Tune In & Reflect

Are you willing to be God’s partner in prayer—laying the tracks for His will in your family’s life? Or will you let unanswered prayers and spiritual discouragement be the bottleneck to His miraculous work?

MEET THE GUEST: Jaime Hampton is a wife and mother of three who recently relocated from Alaska to Utah with her family, embracing the challenges of a new climate and culture. With her eldest in college and two younger kids in school, Jaime co-hosts the Praying Christian Women podcast with her longtime friend and prayer partner, Alana Terry. Their show began as an outgrowth of their honest coffee-time conversations about faith and prayer, offering encouragement for women to grow spiritually.

EPISODE RESOURCES:

 Let Us Pray by Watchman Nee

The Praying Christian Women Podcast

Jaime’s Website, Instagram, Substack

Catherine’s Website & Resources

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Want to memorize more Scripture with your kids this year than ever before? You don’t need a seminary degree, a flawless routine, or a photographic memory—just a melody, a little intention, and a willingness to make God’s Word a part of your family’s everyday life.

In this inspiring “Best Of” New Year’s episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine welcomes special guest Zac Fitzsimmons, a gifted singer-songwriter and worship leader whose heart for God’s Word and knack for turning Scripture into unforgettable songs have helped countless families hide God’s Word in their hearts.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• A Simple, Powerful Way to Memorize Scripture: Catherine reveals her family’s surprisingly simple—yet incredibly effective—method for learning Scripture together: setting Bible verses to music. No perfection or superhuman recall required; just sing along as you fold laundry, do dishes, or carpool.
• Meet Zac Fitzsimmons: Psalm Songwriter, Worship Leader, Dad: Guest Zac Fitzsimmons, whose musical talents began at age 15 and blossomed into a life of leading worship and setting entire psalms to melody, shares his journey and explains why full, word-for-word renditions of Scripture make such a powerful educational tool.
• Zac performs live acoustic versions of Psalm 1 and Psalm 8: This incredible artist offers a moving example of how entire chapters can be memorized, meditated upon, and made meaningful through melody.
• The Science & Soul Behind Singing the Bible: Learn why music is a “supersonic power” for memory—moving truths from short-term to long-term storage in the brain. Whether you’re a parent who’s forgotten where you put your phone (again!) or a child learning a new psalm, a good melody makes all the difference.

Tips for Busy, Imperfect Parents

• Take small “bites”—learn Scripture in short, daily repetitions.
• Use sign language or hand motions alongside melody to anchor memorization.
• Leverage idle moments—while driving, during chores, or winding down at bedtime.
• Reframe your expectations: even one verse a month adds up!

Notable Moments & Quotes:

• “If you can remember the theme song to The Beverly Hillbillies, you can remember God’s Word.”
• “Scripture flows deeper through a melody—first into our heads, then into our hearts.”
• The memorable “Jello” method: how repetition turns memory from liquid to solid.

Parents, what’s your first Scripture verse or passage you want to memorize together this year? Share your story and join the movement—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.

EPISODE RESOURCES:

You can email Catherine to offer feedback and tell her about your Bible memory plan for the new year at catherine@catherinesegars.com.

Zac Fitzsimmons Bio: Zac is a Christian singer/songwriter from Minnesota, USA. He has led congregations in musical worship for over twenty years and is most known for his ongoing endeavor of writing music and melodies to the Psalms word for word from the English Standard Version of the Bible. These songs are being discovered by people worldwide as valuable tools for soaking in the scriptures in a new way and aiding in scripture memorization. You can find links to the audio, lyric videos and chord charts at www.psalmsongswordforword.com

You can also find Zac on YouTube and Instagram.

To receive downloads of Zac & Catherine’s live perform of Psalm 8, Zac’s performance of Psalm 1, and all of Catherine’s Scripture songs, and pro tips for memorizing the Bible, subscribe at Catherine’s website: https://catherinesegars.com/resources

See Catherine’s complimentary article on Crosswalk: “Learn More Scripture This Year with This #1 Proven Method”

SCRIPTURE SONG ARTISTS:

The Corner Room

Seeds Family Worship

King Things

Esther Mui

Benjamin NG

The Bigsby Show (for the books of the Bible and the 12 Disciples)

SIGN LANGUAGE RESOURCES:

Hands Speak,  Signs Savvy, ASL Dictionary

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Standing at the Edge of a New Year with Giants in Your Path? Discover Seven Biblical Strategies to Conquer Your Greatest Fears in 2026.

Few things unsettle a parent’s heart like the uncertainty and challenges a new year can bring. When the calendar flips and giants—finances, relationships, health issues, parenting worries—seem larger than life, how do we stand firm in faith and lead our families with confidence?

In this empowering New Year’s episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine takes listeners on an honest and hope-filled journey, asking the crucial question: "How do you conquer the giants staring you down in the new year?" Drawing from her own season of transition—relocating her family, homeschooling five kids, navigating empty nesting, and facing financial mountains—Catherine shares seven unshakeable principles for slaying the giants in our lives, straight from Scripture and her own experience.

From recounting stories of friends facing enormous trials to sharing her own “embarrassing” moments of doubt and panic, Catherine models vulnerability and practical faith. She reminds parents: Your giant is real, but your God is bigger.

🌱 7 Principles to Slay Your Giants (And Find Peace This Year!)

1. Keep a Childlike Faith: Look to David, young and unjaded, who believed God could do the impossible. Jesus tells us, “Unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 18)
2. Fear Not: Identify the specific lie that’s fueling your fear. Don’t gloss over your anxieties—journal them, talk to God about them, and let Him speak truth in their place.
3. Be Thankful: Shift your focus away from the giant by remembering God’s faithfulness. Thanksgiving isn’t just polite—it’s the bridge to supernatural peace (Philippians 4).
4. Don’t Complain: Just like Israel grumbled in the desert and missed the Promised Land, complaining focuses our hearts on the obstacle—not the God who overcomes it. Choose gratitude and see your perspective change.
5. Help Someone Else with Their Giant: Serving others shrinks your own problems. When your world feels small, intentionally loving and supporting another can break fear’s hold and invite fresh hope.
6. Persevere in Prayer: Pray specific scriptures over your situation, your children, your marriage—every single day. Prayer doesn’t just change circumstances; it changes us.
7. Remember God is With You (and For You): Whatever you’re facing, you never face it alone. God’s presence is your source of victory—He goes before you, fights for you, and He is for you.

Why This Matters Now: 2026 may bring uncertainty, but God is bigger than every giant we face as parents, spouses, and believers. By reclaiming these timeless principles—faith, gratitude, community, and prayer—parents can move from panic to peace and model resilience for their children.

Call to Action: What is the greatest giant looming over your family this year? Take hold of the principles from today’s episode and make them your daily practice—and watch what God will do!

Share your story or prayer requests with Catherine at catherine@catherinesegars.com and join a community of Christian parents determined to walk in faith, not fear.

EPISODE LINKS:

• Matt Scott’s “Fear Not” sermon (The Gathering Place)
• Scripture playlists, prodigal prayers, and more at Catherine’s website

Giants may roar, but God’s promises thunder louder. Happy New Year—and remember, God’s got you, and He is bigger than your giant.

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Tired of searching for family-friendly Christmas movies, only to find options that clash with your values? Not sure which holiday films are actually worth gathering everyone around the TV for?

Catherine shines a light on the dilemma facing so many Christian parents today: how can we find Christmas movies that are both wholesome and engaging—not just repeats of worn-out classics, but films that affirm faith, family, and the real reason for the season?

In this special “best of” holiday edition of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine steps into the critic’s seat to deliver her curated list of 5 Family-Centered Films for Christmas. After being shocked by the inclusion of edgy, agenda-driven titles in mainstream “best Christmas movie” lists, Catherine was inspired to seek out fresh, faith-forward options that won’t leave you cringing or hitting “stop.”

Here’s her handpicked lineup, designed to offer fresh options you likely haven’t already worn out—and to fill your home with joy and true Christmas meaning:

• Kids’ Pick: Journey to the Christmas Star – A Norwegian fairy tale adventure with wholesome themes and just a hint of magic, perfect for little ones.
• Guys’ Pick: Joyeux Noël – A moving, true WWI story about the Christmas Eve ceasefire, exploring big questions of faith, war, and reconciliation (best for teens and up due to mature content).
• Girls’ Pick: The Christmas Candle – A charming British period piece set in a candle-lit village, based on Max Lucado's novel, brimming with questions about miracles and faith.
• Date Night Pick: The Family Man – A romantic, funny exploration of priorities and purpose, reminding parents (and couples) of the value of family over fleeting worldly success.
• Family Pick: The Nativity Story –Catherine’s top recommendation, this beautifully faithful retelling of Mary and Joseph’s journey brings the original Christmas story to life—and into your living room.

For each film, Catherine shares why it matters, where you can watch it, and what to be aware of for younger viewers. She encourages listeners to use these films as a springboard for meaningful family conversations about faith, sacrifice, the supernatural, and what Christmas is truly about. She also invites families to discuss where these movies align—or deviate—from biblical truth, fostering discernment and depth.

Finish your holiday season feeling equipped, inspired, and ready to lead your family in a Christ-centered celebration.

Reflect and Respond:
Which Christmas film has sparked a meaningful conversation in your family about faith or values? After tuning in, share your own recommendations or thoughts with Catherine and the CPCW listeners—and make sure to check out her complete list with streaming links at www.catherineseagers.com.

Don’t miss out on the resources, encouragement, and conversations that set your family apart in a culture that often forgets Christ at Christmas. Tune in, and let’s put faith back at the heart of the holiday!

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Hope and faith are never more deeply tested than in seasons of loss—and the holidays can magnify the ache in ways we never expected. In this heartfelt and timely episode, Catherine shares her personal journey of holding on to faith when hope seems out of reach, inviting listeners into a story as raw as it is redemptive.

Christmas often conjures images of joy and togetherness, but for many families, it can also emphasize what's been lost—a loved one’s absence, a fractured relationship, or dreams that haven’t materialized. Catherine unpacks the question: How do you cling to faith when hope feels broken?

Through the moving account of her own experience, Catherine reveals:

• The intertwined nature of hope and faith—like sisters searching for one another in the darkest moments.
• The surprising ways God meets us in our grief and disappointment, even when prayers seem unanswered and dreams feel dead.
• Her journey through the miscarriage of a child named Hope and the birth of her daughter Evangeline Faith, illustrating how faith often rises from the ashes of dashed hope.
• The symbolic lesson of two tiny angels—Hope and Faith—and the divine timing and comfort they brought during times of loss and longing.

This episode acknowledges the realities of heartache during the holidays, while offering a message of profound encouragement: When hope feels lost, our faith can flourish in its place, anchored by the presence of Jesus—Emmanuel, God with us.

Key takeaways include:

• Faith isn’t just for the easy times; it’s forged in the waiting, the searching, and the grieving.
• Hope lives eternally anchored in Heaven, but faith is given for the here and now, carrying us through seasons of sorrow.
• God redeems suffering and restores hope, sometimes in ways we cannot yet see.

Resources and encouragement for parents:

• Free gifts for subscribers at com—including the ebook "Beyond the Lies," scripture songs, and a prodigal bundle for parents carrying extra burdens during the holidays.
• Sneak peeks for upcoming episodes, including a "Best Of" holiday film episode and a powerful New Year’s episode focused on biblical strategies for facing giants in 2026.

Join Catherine for this vulnerable conversation—where loss meets promise, hope anchors the soul, and faith breathes new life into even the hardest seasons.

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What if your healthcare choices could align with both your family’s budget and your faith?

In an era where medical bills climb higher and insurance offers less, Christian parents are left searching for answers. In this eye-opening episode, Catherine sits down with Dr. Ian Day, a practicing physician of more than 25 years and the Chief Medical Officer of Medishare, to explore a radical, Christ-centered alternative to traditional healthcare.

Healthcare is one of the greatest stressors for families today—unexpected bills, confusing coverage, and ethical compromises have made many believers feel helpless. But what if there was another way? What if solutions from the early church could provide both practical relief and spiritual support? Medishare is a not-for-profit healthcare sharing ministry, bringing Christians together to share medical bills and bear one another's burdens—both physical and spiritual.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Healthcare Sharing Ministries Demystified: Dr. Day explains the mission behind Medishare, how Christian care ministry works, and why it’s more than just a “healthcare product”—it’s a biblical community modeled on Acts 2 and 4, where believers share both financial and spiritual burdens.
• What is Biblical Wellness? Discover Dr. Day’s holistic approach to wellness—caring for body, mind, and spirit—and learn how Medishare members are encouraged to prioritize spiritual health right alongside physical and emotional well-being.
• The True Causes Behind Skyrocketing Costs: Dr. Day breaks down exactly why premiums, deductibles, and medical expenses are spiraling, from prescription costs and hospital consolidation to administrative complexity and the lingering effects of the pandemic.
• Practical Solutions for Christian Households: Listeners get actionable advice on navigating the coming years, including the role of telemedicine, the importance of stewardship and lifestyle choices, and crucial tips for evaluating healthcare sharing ministries.
• Values-Driven Coverage: Catherine and Dr. Day wrestle openly with the ethical dilemmas of traditional insurance—funding procedures that oppose biblical beliefs—and celebrate Medishare’s commitment to supporting adoption, maternity, and life-affirming care while excluding services contrary to Christian values.
• Real Hope, Real Stories: Dr. Day shares moving examples of families whose lives were transformed by Medishare’s practical support, long-term care, and prayerful partnership—highlighting the difference a faith-based approach can make in life’s hardest moments.

If you’ve ever wondered why your insurance seems to cover less and cost more—or questioned if your family’s healthcare can truly reflect your faith and values—this episode delivers understanding, clarity, and hope. Catherine closes with a reminder that believers are called to be the answer in a broken world, echoing the early church’s radical love and practical care.

Why This Matters:

As Catherine puts it, “For all the broken systems in our world, the church needs to be the answer. Believers need to be the answer.” If you’re a Christian parent wrestling with big questions about stewardship, wellness, and truly living your faith in every aspect of life—including those daunting healthcare decisions—this episode will both equip and encourage you.

Parenting Takeaway: What steps can you take to model biblical stewardship, community support, and faith-driven discernment in how your family approaches healthcare—body, mind, and spirit?

Meet the Guest: Dr. Ian Day is a dedicated leader in faith-based healthcare. Through Medi-Share, Dr. Day has championed a unique model where Christians come together to share medical bills and support each other spiritually, all in alignment with biblical values. With more than 30 years of proven service, Dr. Day has helped Medi-Share become the most trusted name in healthcare sharing, facilitating over $50 million in shared medical expenses each month. He is committed to providing Christian families with a compassionate, God-honoring alternative to traditional insurance, ensuring members are supported not just financially, but also with prayer and encouragement along their healthcare journey.

Episode Links:

• Learn more about Medi-Share and Christian Care Ministry
• Viral Video of Robby Witt being charged double for an ambulance with insurance than the uninsured rate
• Catherine Segars—Free Parenting Resources & Email List

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What if the greatest gift you give your kids this Christmas is a heart of generosity—and the chance to change someone else’s world?

This episode goes beyond stockings and wrapping paper to tackle one of the most pressing questions for believers during the holiday season: How do we practically teach our children the virtue of generosity, not just for the holidays, but for a lifetime—and in a way that makes a true, eternal difference?

Answer: Plant seeds of generosity in your family with Samaritan’s Purse Christmas Gift Catalog, a unique way for families to give gifts that can transform lives around the globe.

Browse the catalog and get involved at www.samaritanspurse.org/parent.

Catherine welcomes Kristy Graham, host of the On the Ground with Samaritan’s Purse podcast and wife to Edward Graham, part of the legacy family behind this renowned global relief ministry. With firsthand experience raising four children and witnessing God’s faithfulness in some of the most challenging corners of the globe, Kristy brings unmatched insight and compassion to this timely discussion.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Transformative Giving - The Samaritan's Purse Christmas Gift Catalog: Learn how families can open a new kind of catalog—one offering goats, honeybees, water filters, heart surgeries, and more—to provide desperately needed gifts to people across the globe.
• Real Stories, Real Impact: Kristy recounts emotional, hope-filled stories: families in Iraq whose lives are remade by a simple beehive; a mother shattered by tragedy in need of purpose and dignity, restored by a brood of baby chicks; and the power of a $9 donation to feed a hungry infant and spark the hope of the Gospel for a mother who feels forgotten.
• Generosity That Changes Hearts—Including Our Own: Discover practical ways to involve your kids in picking out gifts, writing cards for teachers in someone’s honor, or pairing a meaningful donation with something tangible.
• Biblical Parallels: Kristy and Catherine share how the work of Samaritan’s purse brings to life the stories of Ruth, who gleaned what benevolent benefactors left for those less fortunate, and Hagar, who met the God who saw her need.
• Seeds of the Gospel: Every gift given through Samaritan’s Purse meets physical needs—and intentionally opens doors for the life-changing message of Christ. Whether it’s a water well, a jar of honey, or a vital medical procedure, these gifts become vehicles for sharing hope and introducing recipients to the God who truly sees them.

Call to Action:

This Christmas, will your family give a gift that extends beyond your home?
Explore life-changing opportunities at samaritanspurse.org/parent as a family, and ask your kids: “How can we be part of God’s story of hope this Christmas?”
Let your generosity become a legacy of faith, planting seeds for eternity.

Episode Links:

• Samaritan’s Purse Gift Catalog: www.samaritanspurse.org/parent
• On the Ground with Samaritan’s Purse Podcast
• Catherine's Resources for Christian Parents

About the guest: Kristy Graham hosts On the Ground with Samaritan’s Purse, a show she launched in 2019 to highlight God’s faithfulness through the ministry’s work. Each week, she brings listeners close to the stories of staff and the people they serve—always pointing hearts to Christ. From missionary doctors in Kenya to military couples in Alaska to families receiving new homes after disasters, Kristy loves witnessing Samaritan’s Purse in action. At home, she and her husband, Edward, are raising their four children in the mountains of North Carolina.

Parents, what new tradition will you start this year to show your children the joy—and eternal impact—of generosity?

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Christmas is one of the most magical seasons for families—but in the midst of the bustle of parties, presents, and Pinterest-perfect traditions, how do we ensure our children keep Christ at the center of it all?

Catherine sits down with national TV host, actress, and best-selling author Megan Alexander to unwrap a timely question: How do Christian families actually keep Christ central during Christmas? Megan, who has been a familiar face on CBS’s Inside Edition for over two decades and the producer of UPTV’s “Small Town Christmas,” brings her unique insights in her newest book, The True Gifts of Christmas: Unwrapping the Meaning of Our Most Cherished Traditions. This beautiful Advent resource is designed to make celebrating the season both meaningful and manageable—especially for busy parents.

Key highlights from the episode include:

• Reclaiming Christmas Traditions – Megan shares fascinating stories behind beloved customs, revealing their hidden spiritual roots—from the Christian symbolism of candy canes to legends like the poinsettia. Listeners will discover how stockings, Christmas trees, gingerbread cookies, and even bells can point children (and parents!) back to Jesus.
• Making Christmas Memorable & Manageable – The book isn’t just a devotional, it’s a coffee table conversation starter, filled with vibrant visuals and historical nuggets accessible to all ages. Catherine Segars notes, “It’s not a sermon… it’s an invitation to consider,” making it a perfect gift, even for those who might not identify as Christian but need a positive encounter with Christ.
• Practical Family Ideas – From flashlight candy cane hunts to placing candles near loved ones’ pictures, Megan shares creative, simple ways to anchor faith in everyday family traditions. Each activity is an opportunity to discuss the deeper meaning behind symbols and stories—turning ordinary moments into spiritual conversations.
• Honoring Hope and Hardship – The episode thoughtfully addresses the reality that Christmas is not always “roses.” Stories like that of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and the tradition of bells remind listeners that even in grief or difficulty, the hope of the gospel and the presence of Christ remain steadfast.

Notable quote:
“You’ll never listen to bells the same. People are gathering; God is alive and well. There is hope in this world.” — Megan Alexander

Listeners will walk away with:

• Fresh inspiration to slow down and celebrate Advent with their kids
• Easy ways to make faith tangible without adding stress to the holiday
• New eyes to see Christ woven through the fabric of their favorite traditions

About the guest:
Megan Alexander is a national TV correspondent, producer, and author. Her book, The True Gifts of Christmas: Unwrapping the Meaning of Our Most Cherished Traditions, is a heartfelt guide to making Advent meaningful for families. She is also a mom of three and an outspoken believer who brings decades of experience bridging faith and the mainstream entertainment industry.

Call to Action:
What tradition could you reclaim this Christmas to make Christ the focus? How can you use a simple story, object, or moment to share the reason for the season with your children? Tune in, unwrap these ideas, and start a new tradition that keeps Jesus at the heart of your family’s celebration!

Resources:

The True Gifts of Christmas: Unwrapping the Meaning of Our Most Cherished Traditions by Megan Alexander

Megan’s Website & Instagram

Catherine Website & Free Resources

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