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Episode 294 - Balancing Technician Pay and High Cost of Living in California Auto Repair With Kobi Meyer10 Nov 202601:01:57

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

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In this episode, the conversation focused on Kobi Meyer's experience taking over his family's shop, Dana Meyer Auto Care, a San Francisco Bay Area staple for over 50 years. The discussion explored challenges unique to family-owned businesses, including the struggle to maintain a legacy while adapting to modern systems and higher costs of living. Several points came up, including the difficulty of paying competitive wages in an expensive market, the importance of a clear long-term vision for the business, and how coaching and software upgrades have helped strengthen shop operations.

00:00 Struggling with finding passionate hires

06:42 Streamlining operations and systems adjustments

15:13 Buying in a gentrifying area

18:38 Perception of others' earnings

27:31 Living in a paradoxical paradise

33:19 Midwest versus Coasts in Real Estate

38:15 Stopping for Fried Chicken Lunch

41:30 Reckless driving in the Midwest

49:10 Discussing future expansion plans

53:47 Planning for the Future

58:30 Planning for the future

01:01:32 Finding guidance is tricky

Episode 293 - Are Industry Events Worth It? Debating Costs, Culture, and Team Growth With Limitless Leadership02 Nov 202601:05:31

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas and David welcome Josh Parnell, founder and CEO of Limitless Leadership, and leadership coach Bret Beitler. The conversation focuses on leadership development in the automotive industry, with Josh highlighting the importance of empowering team members and building a culture of coachability and accountability. The group explores the value and return on investment of team engagement at industry events, discussing both the benefits and the practical challenges of shutting down a shop for staff training.

00:00 Concerns about closing the shop

06:17 Employee engagement and productivity

15:31 Previewing industry trends and vendors

21:25 Encouraging team feedback and ideas

26:20 Coaching through questions and discovery

31:59 Embracing a coachable mindset

35:02 Critiquing Social Media Consumption

38:50 Conceptualizing Hypotheticals on Instagram

46:46 Empowering leadership and team development

48:58 Discussion on Milwaukee Pipeline Event

59:06 Building a Future in the U.S.

01:02:25 Awkward store encounter

01:05:16 Wrapping up the discussion

Episode 292 - Unlocking Employee Potential and Navigating Turnover With Brian Zemba26 Oct 202601:02:56

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman join Brian Zemba, founder of CHG Leadership Consulting. Brian Zemba highlights the lack of leadership training among shop owners and the resulting impact on workplace culture and employee satisfaction. David Roman offers a counterpoint, questioning whether employees truly know what they want and emphasizing the challenges of motivating and retaining talent. Together, the trio explores the concept of "positive turnover"—helping employees find roles that fit their strengths, even if it means moving on—which can ultimately strengthen a shop's culture and success.

00:00 Auto repair pricing and convenience

09:40 Importance of Leadership Training

13:25 Mechanics as consumer advocates

17:56 Employee dependency and retention

27:51 Using emotional intelligence

32:25 Discussing effective communication and culture

34:22 Understanding Positive Turnover

42:48 Teaching kids entrepreneurship skills

45:06 Coaching and wisdom in leadership

50:34 Generational differences and workforce quality

59:51 Being curious in business relationships

01:01:18 Seeking understanding and ending conflict

Episode 291 - Pricing for Profit and Purpose in the Modern Auto Shop with Josh & Pixi Pickthall19 Oct 202601:13:51

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, David and Lucas welcome Pixi Pickthall and Josh from Mesa, Arizona. Pixi and Josh share their unique approach to shop ownership, blending Josh’s decades of industry experience with Pixi’s social work background to create a highly personalized customer experience. The conversation dives deep into the challenges of setting proper labor rates, the importance of understanding financial metrics, and the need to balance quality service with fair profitability.

00:00 Managing warehouse logistics

09:25 Name change and market saturation

12:50 Observations from working at dealership

17:16 Challenges in hiring skilled technicians

22:29 Implementing DVX for consistency

29:16 Improving client experience

36:25 Handling customer complaints

39:22 Court warranty responsibility discussion

45:55 Talking auto shop math basics

49:50 Struggling with car ownership choices

59:17 Financial stability and customer selection

01:02:01 Seeking expert financial advice

01:09:12 Auto Repair Shop Basics series

01:10:48 Facing challenges and setbacks

Episode 290 - ADAS Calibrations, Shop Liability, and the Role of Industry Associations With Tom Elder & Joe Ocello12 Oct 202601:11:11

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas and David sit down with Joe Ocello and Tom Elder from AASP New Jersey to discuss the state of the mechanical and collision repair industries. Tom shares his perspective on the growing need for specialized education and proper documentation as vehicles become more technologically advanced. Joe emphasizes the importance of ongoing technical training and communication to keep independent shops competitive and safe.

00:00 Teaching and building a skilled team

08:22 Ignoring safety instructions

14:35 Discussing mechanical challenges

19:55 Dealership service concerns

26:33 Replacing a deformed metal line

28:52 Carrying on the industry's legacy

34:24 Importance of business education

42:42 Dealing with repair mishaps

46:03 Discussing lawsuit strategy and repairs

49:57 Used car ADAS diagnostic work

58:46 Maryland ADAS certification debate

01:00:51 Discussing automotive repair regulations

01:08:25 Engaging shops beyond North Carolina

01:10:31 Staying focused on future goals

Episode 289 - Rich Fasulo aka Check Engine Chuck Talks Shop Failure to Mobile & Social Media Success05 Oct 202600:54:48

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, the conversation focused on Rich Fasulo's career journey, also known as Check Engine Chuck, as he shared his path from mobile diagnostics to shop ownership and back. One concept discussed was the importance of charging appropriately for diagnostic and repair work, with a strong emphasis on valuing your time and not giving away discounts out of pocket. A key theme that emerged was the struggle to balance caring for customers with running a profitable, sustainable business—highlighting how industry integrity depends on both technical skill and smart business decisions.

00:00 Choosing between shop and mobile business

06:56 Failing van inspection in New York

08:19 Fixing my car with a friend

11:42 Fixing a wheel balance issue

14:25 Learning from Scannerdanner videos

19:54 Writing detailed explanations for claims

23:37 Ensuring quality and reputation

25:38 Frustration with lack of effort

27:23 Frustration with tech industry's focus

30:26 Reflecting on past business failures

35:51 Explaining billing to customers

38:59 Realizing a Habitual Pattern

42:03 Learning from industry peers

44:34 Sharing videos for personal reasons

48:38 Diagnosing and strategizing module repairs

51:47 Troubleshooting a no-crank issue

53:37 Bringing in more mechanical vendors

Episode 288 - Transitioning from Finance to the Garage with Lance Lupi of Lee Myles Auto Care28 Sep 202601:00:35

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, the conversation focused on transitions into shop ownership, the challenges of maintaining industry standards, and planning for long-term success. The discussion explored how entering the automotive industry from a corporate background can offer a unique advantage, especially in management and process implementation. A key theme was the importance of building a strong shop culture rooted in quality and integrity, even when customer awareness often hinges more on convenience than craftsmanship. Lastly, several points highlighted the need to prepare exit strategies and succession plans early, ensuring shop owners are ready for both expected and unexpected changes in their business journeys.

00:00 Airport confusion during an emergency

05:04 Visiting the 9/11 Memorial Museum

07:52 The importance of personal artifacts

13:07 Struggles with delegation in auto shops

16:44 Starting coaching with confidence

17:18 Embracing Change to Drive Growth

21:54 Father-in-law's car passion

26:27 Long-term planning for business owners

28:20 Learning about health savings accounts

33:01 Attending a life-changing class

36:53 Working in car parts sales

38:18 Realizing customers don't notice quality

43:06 Proper car wheel maintenance

45:12 Ensuring job tasks are completed

49:19 Discussing shop culture impact

53:38 Workplace culture and technician skills

57:05 Values and integrity in coaching

58:52 Building a supportive team

Episode 287 - Overcoming Rust Belt Challenges With Colin Thielman21 Sep 202600:53:28

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Colin Thielman, owner of Thielman's Auto Repair in Pemberton, New Jersey. Colin shares his journey from running a busy home-based garage to opening a dedicated shop, emphasizing the steep learning curve and the importance of building out documentation and management systems. The conversation also covers adapting to new automotive technologies and the need for continuous training, as well as the crucial role of detailed financial tracking in scaling a business.

00:00 Facing tough feedback and growth

03:43 Managing workflow and staying busy

09:25 Checking vehicle calibration needs

12:39 Discussing insurance coverage options

13:55 Insurance issues with car lifts

19:14 Adjusting labor rates

21:11 Analyzing car sales and costs

24:42 Prius ABS module recall

27:04 Discussing client concerns and liabilities

29:23 Diagnosing car start issues

35:31 Planning for retirement

36:49 Discussing a faulty Chevy Avalanche

39:47 Documenting vehicle condition with photos

42:39 Hershey management training advice

45:24 Training a New Employee

51:10 Getting into diesel truck repair

51:43 Balancing finances for survival

Bonus Episode - Navigating Trade Shows and AI Hype with Cavan Robinson & Tony Mercury16 Sep 202601:04:35

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Cavan Robinson and Tony Mercury of Vehlo from STX 2026. Cavan and Tony explore the evolving trade show landscape, discussing how rising costs and market saturation have changed their approach to event participation. They also dive into the growing influence of AI in the industry, highlighting both the opportunities and challenges it brings to shop management and marketing.

00:00 Evaluating trade show expenses

10:25 Finding the right trade show staff

14:31 Attending the Northeast Show and Milwaukee Event

17:37 Improving event attendance strategies

25:47 Issues with recurring trade shows

30:12 Questioning Technical Training Value

35:21 Lunch with Margaret discussing retirement

38:42 Advice for growing your business

46:56 AI's impact on SEO strategies

53:41 Managing AI Data and Partnerships

57:36 Using GuestX for call issues

01:00:29 Catfish leads to divorce

Episode 286 - Building a Mobile Auto Shop With A Full-Time Job with Jim Montagner14 Sep 202600:59:49

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Jim Montagner, a traveling GM world-class tech and owner of Valley Motor Auto and Truck, shares his unconventional entry into the automotive industry, beginning as a Vo-Tech student and eventually moving from independent shops to dealerships. Jim details the challenges of transitioning to mobile diagnostics, emphasizing the importance of sound business practices, such as bookkeeping and proper pricing, to sustain and eventually grow his business. The conversation explores the necessity of ongoing education in both technical skills and business management, highlighting the critical balance between delivering quality repairs and ensuring business profitability.

00:00 Choosing a career path

06:27 Discussing the cost of living

06:56 Finding inspiration from others

10:44 Expanding from diesel to general repairs

15:28 Customer perceptions of mobile repair costs

18:39 Talking to shop owners

20:10 Pricing strategy challenges

25:04 Unqualified mechanics hurting reputation

28:38 Managing inconsistent work hours

31:56 Navigating business start-up challenges

33:27 Check Engine Chuck's viral success

36:58 Finding first big job by chance

41:49 Pricing for profitability in auto shops

45:30 Learning ECM and EEPROM Programming

48:39 Vacation scheduling challenges

49:26 Making weekend plans

55:33 Understanding Business Profit Margins

57:27 Reading business books for success

59:39 Planning future recording session

Episode 285 - Bad Reviews Can Lead To Better Practices With Brett Hunziker07 Sep 202601:11:27

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, the conversation focused on real-world challenges faced by shop owners and technicians, including the complexities of managing customer expectations and navigating negative reviews. One concept discussed was the need for transparent diagnostic processes and detailed communication, especially when customers question pricing or feel they already know the issue with their vehicles. A key theme that emerged was the importance of accurate shop management—covering everything from parts inventory to internal controls in software like Shop-Ware—to ensure profitability and reduce clerical errors.

00:00 Out-of-province vehicle inspections

06:53 Florida driver's license language law

15:54 Construction mistake with leaning structure

16:42 Visiting the 9/11 Memorial Museum

23:08 Challenges of Replacing Headlights

27:58 Car repair frustration and miscommunication

32:35 Discussing diagnostic trouble codes

37:32 Introducing Whisperflow for Note-Taking

47:24 Customer dissatisfaction with tire pricing

50:29 Dealer pricing and customer experiences

56:11 Adjusting labor rates and pay structure

01:01:02 Evaluating Business Efficiency and Labor

01:09:15 Old machinist's inventory strategy

01:09:52 Buying and selling steel

Episode 284 - Managing Stress and Leading a Young Team in the Automotive Industry With Trey Holley31 Aug 202600:50:08

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Trey Holley, a shop owner from Thomaston, Georgia. Trey shares his journey from being a lifelong mechanic to learning the ropes of business ownership, highlighting the unique challenges faced in small Southern towns. The conversation touches on the importance of supporting fellow shop owners rather than viewing them purely as competitors, and Trey offers insight into the work-life balance struggles that led him to prioritize both his health and the building of a strong, supportive team.

00:00 Atlanta airport's massive scale

03:41 Long walks at airports

06:27 Thunder Valley racetrack experience

10:30 Southern business challenges with generosity

13:29 Overwhelmed by business demands

19:09 New guy in town setting up

20:59 University town business challenges

22:34 Building Industry Relationships

26:46 Discussing business challenges with spouse

31:14 Discussing labor cost strategy

35:32 Quality control and final checks

38:55 Balancing work and family time

40:33 Dealing with family anxiety

44:57 Balancing multiple responsibilities

47:21 Discovering the Enneagram for Communication

49:12 On choosing the right people

Episode 283 - Revamping Trade Shows While Building Industry Community with Tonnika Haynes24 Aug 202600:56:09

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Tonnika Haynes. Tonnika shares her experiences navigating trade shows like Vision and ASTA, highlighting the challenges of scaling events while maintaining their community feel. The conversation touches on the struggle to balance profitable training with meaningful content for shop owners. They also discuss the importance of grassroots networking and accountability within industry associations, emphasizing the need to evolve while remembering what made previous events special.

00:00 Trade show insights and takeaways

04:45 Struggling to secure instructors

09:25 Improving trade show quality

11:08 Evaluating training investment costs

15:18 Investing in employee training

18:21 Challenges in Automotive Training

22:41 Getting great deals at the show

23:30 Boosting vendor sales at trade shows

27:40 Considering a move to a convention center

30:58 Regional networking events in Asheville

35:07 Adjusting content for wider appeal

37:22 Demand for hands-on Tesla class

41:53 Early board experiences discussed

42:36 Addressing organizational dysfunction

46:57 Launching the new podcast

52:03 Discussing video production deadlines

53:03 Braxton starting a media company

56:04 Introducing the next topic

Bonus Episode - Emily Oliver On Keeping It in the Family While Facing Challenges and Growth at a Small Auto Shop19 Aug 202601:03:28

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Emily Oliver joins the podcast to share her journey of taking over a small family auto repair shop in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Emily talks about the challenges of modernizing operations, from adopting new software like Shop-Ware to implementing more thorough documentation and communication processes with customers. The conversation also highlights the complexities of hourly billing in auto repair, the challenges of managing family roles in business, and the importance of continuous learning and adaptation as the shop grows.

00:00 Family auto shop's history

08:56 Simple billing system explained

10:55 Tracking time in auto repair bays

19:04 Standardizing Inspection Processes

23:10 Issues with technician pricing

30:07 Convincing family about car maintenance

36:33 Communicating with customers

39:47 Dealing with other mechanics' issues

46:27 Early challenges and learning curve

54:21 Managing finances and staying focused

56:10 Discussing parts pricing strategy

01:01:21 Gaining insights from peer feedback

Episode 282 - AI, Recruiting, Shop Culture, and the Drive for Better Hires with Promotive17 Aug 202601:09:09

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Sam Freeman, Alexandra Pare, and Daniel Ekstrand from Promotive. The group demos “Paige,” Promotive’s AI-powered virtual recruiter, showcasing how AI is transforming the hiring and prescreening process in the automotive industry. The conversation dives into current industry trends, including why technicians are leaving dealerships for independent shops and the top reasons candidates are looking for new positions. They also get candid about the frustrations of online reviews, sharing stories and strategies shop owners use to respond to feedback—both good and bad.

00:00 Overview of Promotive's Services

11:55 Managing morning priority calls

15:43 Handling Language and Mumbling Issues

18:44 Automated messaging for applicants

27:21 Icy disaster during bachelor party

32:58 Early adoption of Facebook and DVI

37:41 Missed email confusion

42:59 Hotel room negotiation challenge

44:38 A quick conference trip

52:30 Challenges of running a car shop

59:36 Trying the Worst BBQ in KC

01:03:25 Handling negative feedback

01:07:19 Feedback on Uber improvements

Episode 281 - Tackling Mental Health and Generational Challenges in Automotive Shops10 Aug 202600:57:52

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In this episode, the conversation focused on the realities of technician mental health in the automotive industry. Several points were raised, including the lack of resources and support for young technicians, the stigma among men around discussing feelings and seeking help, and the crucial role that perspective and mentorship play in navigating workplace stress.

00:00 Wearing outfits for a photo

06:15 Hiring someone with unusual past jobs

08:04 Sourcing clean, pure meth

12:49 Understanding indica and sativa effects

14:40 Dealing with smoke smell in cars

19:36 Dealing with unresolved personal issues

20:24 Helping employee with health issues

26:30 Defining happiness with Rick White

28:45 Learning about cars before the internet

33:08 Understanding Mental Health Challenges

34:07 Tech industry mentorship challenges

39:51 Judging parents and kids' behavior

41:10 Childhood playground altercation

46:38 Being transparent about business struggles

47:59 George's life-changing discovery

52:51 Understanding the need for help

53:57 Managing negative thoughts

57:11 Discussing consequences of inaction

Episode 280 - Forgiveness, Mentorship, and Saving Lives in Shops With Tyler Steever03 Aug 202600:56:19

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In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Tyler Steever, a technician from Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Tyler Steever shares his path into the industry, highlighting how mentorship and hands-on learning shaped his career. The conversation delves into the importance of good shop culture and personal development, with Tyler Steever emphasizing the impact of teaching others and building supportive relationships. The episode also addresses mental health in the industry, as Tyler Steever openly discusses his personal struggles and the need to break the stigma around seeking help.

00:00 Getting into vehicle repair

05:03 Team cattle sorting challenge

06:51 Learning from a mentor

10:02 Rodeo scene and local issues

12:59 Changing jobs in the auto industry

16:34 Teaching horse training clinics

21:28 Reflecting on family and self-worth

23:33 Marriage as a lifelong commitment

26:01 Communication in Marriage

30:32 Warren Buffett's best advice

32:21 Struggling with mental health at school

36:21 Growing up with a religious dad

40:39 Technician's unexpected promotion story

41:51 Quitting a job rashly

46:39 Sharing personal goals and vision

49:38 Dog comforts during a breakdown

52:10 Discussing family and Ziploc bags

56:10 Spreading awareness and support

Episode 279 - The Real Coach Alex On Fixing Industry Communication and Shop Management27 Jul 202600:56:01

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In this episode, the conversation centers around Alex DeSantis's journey from working in auto repair shops to becoming a coach for auto shop owners. The discussion explored the importance of clear communication and establishing standard operating procedures in the industry, highlighting how many shops still struggle with basics like proper onboarding and workflow organization. Several points were raised, including the value of sharing business data transparently with employees, practical benefits shop owners can offer beyond health insurance, and the crucial role of teaching both technical and communication skills to the next generation of technicians.

00:00 Empowered Advisor journey

06:17 Starting part-time coaching with Rena

08:31 Getting business coaching advice

13:29 Neglecting business investments and maintenance

15:56 Discussing employee benefits options

18:31 Complaints about AI-generated content

23:05 Frustrations with shop inefficiency

26:59 Improving communication with clients

29:30 Changing Views on Trade Education

31:18 Future-proofing with human expertise

34:42 Dealer advisor training issues

38:44 Encounter with silent shopkeepers

42:45 Office space changes

47:17 Talking about the mysterious fire

49:55 Local tales and warnings

53:04 Getting pitched SEO on podcasts

55:02 Preparing for 2027 expansion

Episode 278 - Can You Create A Disney World Experiences in Auto Repair With Bret Beitler20 Jul 202600:58:47

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In this episode, David & Lucas are joined by Brett Beitler to discuss the challenges and rewards of leadership in both family entertainment centers and the auto repair industry. Brett shares his experience in turning around struggling businesses, highlighting the importance of strong leadership, employee empowerment, and cultivating a culture of unreasonable hospitality. The conversation also explores the differences in leadership needs between industries, emphasizing the value of coaching, communication, and continuous personal growth for business success.

00:00 Setting up automatic audio switching

09:40 Inspiration to join preschool industry

10:28 Expanding business in Houston

16:37 Forming a Leadership Partnership

23:16 Improving airport bathroom satisfaction

27:04 Issues with Accountant and Bookkeeping

35:00 Dealing with customer feedback

40:18 Finding the Right Coaching Clients

43:05 Practicing effective leadership skills

53:33 Teaching Leadership to the Next Generation

58:29 Empowerment in the Workplace

01:01:37 Keeping up with rapid tech changes

Episode 277 - Building Better Workflows and Navigating AI With Ash Kaplan of Golden Hour Garage13 Jul 202601:04:25

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Ash Kaplan, owner of Golden Hour Garage. Ash shares her journey growing up in the automotive industry, how she built her niche helping struggling shops streamline workflow, and why process consistency is essential for shop success. The conversation also explores the impact of AI and automation in automotive repair, emphasizing the ongoing need for human expertise and genuine customer relationships.

00:00 Visual calendar time zone issue

10:32 Building workflows for struggling shops

12:27 Finding a solution for consistency

17:50 Explaining the company name

25:15 Documenting a car recall dispute

30:36 Employee motivation and compensation issues

32:59 Overcoming belief in others

39:15 Lessons on gullibility from father

47:26 Weekly and Quarterly Accountability Meetings

52:34 Building internal talent for growth

56:56 Discussing AI sustainability issues

59:31 AI's Impact on Job Markets

01:07:20 AI in automotive service shops

Episode 276 - Navigating Apprenticeships With Angela Mitchell & Shop-Ware Scholarship Winner Kaitlyn Schave06 Jul 202601:01:03

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In this episode, the conversation focused on the experiences of an apprentice technician who won the Shop-Ware scholarship. One concept discussed was the importance of standardized processes in the shop to ensure consistent work quality and reduce customer complaints. A key theme that emerged was the value of mentorship and hands-on learning, with support from experienced technicians helping apprentices gain skills and confidence. The discussion explored how exploring diverse training resources, including online courses and technical classes, can accelerate professional growth for new technicians.

00:00 Brake pad inconsistencies and complaints

05:44 Cleaning caliper brackets

16:24 Bringing Kaitlyn on board

17:54 Training and skill progression

27:40 Learning electrical diagnostics skills

31:43 Talking about tough car repairs

33:59 Discussing employee pay incentives

42:57 Choosing the right conference sessions

48:07 Learning diagnostics through videos

52:21 Testing car battery voltage

58:50 Dealing with difficult customers

Episode 275 - Trying To Elevate Automotive Training with Trevor Schlientz of Autonerdz29 Jun 202601:16:29

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In this episode, the conversation focused on the evolution of diagnostics in the automotive industry and the transition from technician to business owner. One concept discussed was the value and limitations of certifications such as ASE, with a candid look at how credentialing and industry standards affect technician growth. A key theme that emerged was the importance of community-based training and support, emphasizing how shop owners and technicians can elevate industry standards by hosting and attending collaborative training events.

00:00 Identifying and fixing a valve issue

08:12 Early influence of my dad

14:32 Debating test competency methods

17:00 Discussing ADOS legislation requirements

24:41 Criticizing school accreditation practices

29:29 Continuous education in auto care

36:00 Community troubleshooting and collaboration

38:59 Getting support for Pico tools

46:38 Getting help from friends

52:22 Building community through hosting

53:43 Collaborating with suppliers for training

01:01:59 Advantages of live streaming

01:08:14 Marketing strategy for 2026

01:14:30 Improving industry skills through content

01:15:01 Getting started with the scope

Episode 274 - Can The Automotive Service Industry Be Saved? With Cecil Bullard and Wayne Marshall22 Jun 202601:06:30

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In this episode, Cecil Bullard and Wayne Marshall discuss the challenges facing the automotive industry today. They examine the complexities and controversies surrounding technician licensing and certification, highlighting the need for industry-wide standards. The conversation also addresses the importance of financial literacy and measurable productivity in running a successful shop.

00:00 Debating dealership licensing issues

10:17 Balancing employee pay and motivation

13:05 Building Employee Loyalty

18:33 Improving employee wages and management

23:01 Business fundamentals and financial ratios

29:03 Planning an Exit Strategy

35:00 Chris Enright on industry frustration

41:01 Need for sophisticated testing

46:14 Importance of unique selling proposition

51:13 Importance of inclusivity and differentiation

54:12 Challenges with membership relevance

01:03:44 Young talent and enthusiasm

01:04:15 Recruiting a young car enthusiast

Episode 273 - Learning from Mistakes and Building Stronger Businesses With Tara Topel15 Jun 202601:01:51

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Tara Topel to dig into the challenges facing shop owners and the broader automotive industry. They examine the importance of building businesses that can run independently of their owners, emphasizing the need for processes, standards, and effective delegation. The conversation also highlights a lack of engagement with valuable industry resources, such as the Auto Care Association, underscoring the need for greater awareness and participation among shop owners. Finally, they discuss the shifting landscape of automotive technology—from EVs to ADAS calibrations—and the risks and responsibilities that come with staying current.

00:00 Handling online criticism

07:36 Balancing business and family time

11:22 Trading our souls for convenience

18:10 Preparing for business contingencies

26:12 Joining a National Auto Association

30:40 Helping People Who Want Change

32:37 Importance of labor in auto shops

40:45 ADAS calibration cost concerns

46:05 ADAS system calibration advice

48:59 Pilot and maintenance disagreement

56:20 Traffic control and roundabouts

59:47 Distracted driving habits

Episode 272 - Mentoring the Next Generation of Techs with Luke Murray and Charles Burke of Worldpac08 Jun 202600:43:02

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In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Charles Burke and Luke Murray from the Worldpac Training Institute. The conversation focuses on the importance of mentorship and structured apprenticeship programs in the automotive industry, the challenges of reaching and engaging more shop owners with effective training and business resources, and the personal impact of mentorship—both in the industry and in personal life.

00:00 Transitioning from technical to business training

05:42 Grounded from flying career

09:44 Choosing movies before streaming

12:41 Becoming a BMW instructor

14:04 Focus on mentor training

18:43 Mentorship and training apprentices

19:46 Creating a custom apprenticeship program

23:10 The importance of effective mentorship

28:29 Building ASTA through community sharing

31:50 Explaining profit margins simplistically

33:25 Helping others with industry insights

38:01 Funny story about Chris Chesney

39:21 Spreading the word about free training

42:11 Passion-driven learning benefits

Episode 271 - Training New Technicians and Building a Lasting Automotive Business With Charles Mitchell01 Jun 202601:02:11

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In this episode, listeners hear the story of a small-shop owner’s journey to purchase and grow TenPin Motors in Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin. The conversation focused on the challenges of transitioning from technician to owner, including finding and training quality staff. A key theme that emerged was the importance of building lasting customer relationships and delivering a superior client experience to stand out in a competitive market. The discussion also explored the realities and concerns of scaling to multiple locations, highlighting industry trends toward consolidation and the difficulty of maintaining quality and culture as shops grow.

00:00 Buying the dealership

08:21 Discussing small town expansion plans

14:49 Transitioning from technician to business management

16:35 Realizing the need to plan

22:32 Creating a welcoming atmosphere

27:13 Adjusting Services After Technician Left

35:03 Focusing on customer care in auto shops

40:14 Upgrading marketing and customer service

45:41 Increasing Profit While Managing Costs

49:17 Planning Future Business Growth

53:24 Concerns about expanding quality

01:00:47 Fostering positive industry growth

Episode 270 - Overcoming Shop Owner Struggles: Hiring, Training, and Shop Management With Shaun Tipton25 May 202601:01:27

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In this episode, Lucas Underwood is joined by Shaun Tipton, who shares his 28-year journey from technician to shop owner. Shaun Tipton discusses the common pitfalls technicians face when transitioning to ownership, emphasizing the importance of understanding financials and setting fair labor rates. The conversation also highlights the critical role of workplace culture and effective leadership in building a successful, ethical shop.

00:00 Advice for aspiring shop owners

09:04 Understanding fair pricing for clients

13:46 Recognizing the need for help

15:51 Red flags in job histories

24:19 Fair employee compensation discussion

30:04 Balancing personal values and money

32:43 Flaws in metro coaching models

40:49 Switching to a single software system

43:49 Benefits of using Shop-Ware

48:09 Focusing on personal interests

53:42 Importance of leadership in ownership

59:46 Long-term life planning advice

Episode 269 - Lessons Learned From Custom Car Builds and Business Ownership With Sunny Massera18 May 202600:59:44

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In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Sunny Massera, a custom car and truck builder from Oregon. Sunny Massera shares the hard lessons he learned from business ownership, including the importance of choosing the right business partner and the unexpected realities of running a shop versus working for someone else. The conversation also covers the challenges of building custom and performance vehicles—from managing customer expectations to dealing with unreliable aftermarket parts.

00:00 Moving between New Mexico and California

04:19 From flat rate to custom cars

07:30 Realizing business complexities

09:46 Deciding not to work alone

13:05 Getting hired at second Bronco shop

16:22 Discussing how to fund a startup

20:36 Partner's role in business growth

23:18 Revamping old Broncos

28:11 Understanding the engine issue

31:14 Working at custom car shops

33:21 Learning through hands-on projects

36:45 Test driving vehicles before ordering

40:00 Restoring a 59 Ranchero

41:33 Future of classic car market

46:46 Challenges finding car parts

50:09 Troubleshooting transmission issues

53:35 Fixing ongoing installation issues

56:10 Tuning engine installations

59:15 Advice for young professionals

Bonus Episode - Handling Customer Complaints and Raising Industry Standards in Auto Repair14 May 202600:41:44

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In this episode, David and Lucas discuss the challenges of handling difficult customer complaints, specifically a negative review following a diagnostic process and the denial of repair work. They dive into the importance of clear communication, setting expectations with consumers, and defending the value of professional diagnostic procedures. Throughout the conversation, they emphasize the need for industry-wide improvement, highlighting how prioritizing quality repairs and properly educating both staff and customers can help move the automotive industry in a better direction.

00:00 Client disputes repair charges

04:23 Diagnostic process and repair decision

06:32 Challenges of Dealing with Customers

12:13 Discussing steak pricing strategies

14:11 Handling customer expectations

16:25 Discussing repair pricing strategy

22:10 Ensuring quality car repairs

24:46 Surrounding yourself with success

26:35 Frustrations in the auto repair business

32:03 Challenges of business growth

35:45 Focusing on quality and process

37:05 Why we started the show

40:35 Technician frustrations over pricing

Episode 268 - Mastering Shop Management and Technician Relations in Today’s Auto Industry11 May 202601:15:15

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In this episode, Austin joins the Changing The Industry Podcast to discuss his journey from dealership technician to shop owner in South Carolina. Austin shares the challenges of buying a shop as a young technician, including navigating the SBA loan acquisition process and building a reliable team after early hiring struggles. The conversation covers practical strategies for technician management and compensation, as well as the importance of professional bookkeeping and mentorship as a shop grows.

00:00 Navigating industry-exclusive groups

08:31 Hiring the first technician

13:09 Starting the podcast idea

20:25 Cost transparency with manufacturers

23:02 ETI's role in tool manufacturing

27:38 Managing car programming and updates

34:15 Car's auto-braking false alarms

39:15 Quick and safe control arm repair

44:53 Building a strong technician team

52:07 Technician attendance and bonus policy

55:11 Dealing with difficult coworkers

58:51 Growing with business mentors

01:05:03 Evaluating business coach effectiveness

01:12:50 Importance of clean financial records

01:14:53 Wanting a strict accountant

Episode 267 - Building and Scaling Auto Shops: Culture, Challenges, and the Drive to Grow With Arun Coumar04 May 202601:03:49

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In this episode, Arun Coumar joins Lucas Underwood and David Roman to discuss the challenges and rewards of multi-shop ownership. Arun highlights the critical role of shop culture and management in shop performance, emphasizing how the right team can make or break operations. The conversation also dives into the evolving automotive industry landscape, touching on consolidation trends and the necessity for adaptability in both business structure and mindset.

00:00 Implementing an alternative work week schedule

10:26 Considering leaving a job

13:46 Realizing success isn't easy

19:57 Logging mileage for efficiency

26:01 Focus on local expansion first

29:37 Considering sole ownership vs. growth

33:54 Finding purpose after life challenges

42:44 Creating and defining meaning

45:40 Talking about single life challenges

53:06 Choosing your life's challenges

58:51 Challenges in the parts distribution industry

01:00:58 Discussing future market changes

Episode 266 - Building Shop Efficiency and Team Culture with Greg Miller of Figs Auto Repair27 Apr 202601:12:27

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In this episode, David and Greg dive into the realities of shop ownership, growth, and staffing challenges in the auto repair industry. Greg shares his journey from IT business owner to owner of Figs Auto Repair in Charlotte, highlighting the importance of adapting processes for efficiency and using tools like Shop-Ware. The conversation also covers practical hiring lessons, including the need to hire and fire quickly and the value of connecting technicians with the broader industry through training events to improve retention.

00:00 Blood draw complications

05:28 Comparing safety of substances

13:13 Navigating traffic delays

18:35 Challenges with new hires

24:24 Handling tough diagnostic jobs

29:03 Adjusting pay for evaluation tasks

36:10 Discussing car repair estimates

40:51 Learning from industry veterans

41:52 Community engagement in North Carolina

49:25 Improving employee efficiency

52:56 Customer communication and follow-ups

01:02:58 Cooking steak tableside

01:04:43 Discussing conference networking opportunities

01:10:37 Networking and local support connections

Episode 265 - Modern Pay Plans and Efficiency Tips To Fix The Tech Shortage With Eric Svedberg20 Apr 202600:57:10

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Eric Svedberg of European Autowerks. Eric shares his journey from starting in the gas station business at 16 to owning and growing a successful automotive shop. The conversation dives deep into the persistent technician shortage, with Eric outlining the challenges in attracting and retaining skilled talent and the evolving pay structures needed to stay competitive. The hosts and Eric also explore strategies for fair compensation, diagnostic testing systems, and the importance of shop culture and communication in bridging the divide between owners and technicians.

00:00 Starting at a gas station job

04:49 Rebranding to Automotive Specialists

09:29 Mac and cheese cart setup

11:26 Bellman warns about minibar sensor

15:40 Salary expectations for auto techs

18:05 Explaining the three-level system

21:04 Handling customer pushback

25:35 Technician pay discussions

26:54 Negotiating a technician's pay raise

30:33 Paying employees more than expected

34:26 Explaining the production bonus system

37:27 Growing demand for skilled technicians

41:53 Ensuring seamless parts distribution

44:01 Discussing social media dynamics

48:42 Dealing with unreliable workers

52:06 Understanding different industry perspectives

55:27 Dealing with technician issues

56:07 Discussing employee accountability

Bonus Episode - Vehlo CEO Reveals What's Actually Changing the Automotive Industry in 202615 Apr 202600:23:31

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In this episode, the Changing The Industry Podcast team sits down with Josh Weiss, CEO of Vehlo, to discuss company culture, leadership, and the rapidly evolving automotive industry. Josh shares his philosophy on servant leadership and the importance of fostering a high-performance, low-ego environment at Vehlo. The conversation highlights how open communication and feedback fuel trust and engagement within the organization. Finally, the group explores the challenges of constant innovation in automotive service, emphasizing the critical role technology and adaptability play in shop success.

00:00 Building a winning team culture

04:44 Team communication and weekly updates

09:41 Joining the company journey

12:34 Rapid innovation in auto industry

14:05 Shopware's unique customer experience

19:35 Choosing shopware for its ease

22:35 Listening to customer feedback

23:22 Thanking the guest or speaker

Episode 264 - The Value of Diagnostics, Hands-On Classes, & Finding Happiness With Tim Iezzi & Ira Waldman13 Apr 202600:54:32

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In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Ira Waldman and Tim Iezzi, who share their experiences with technical training and diagnostics in the automotive industry. Ira Waldman explains the value of comprehensive accident investigations and how data pulled from vehicles is increasingly crucial for liability and repairs. Tim Iezzi and Ira Waldman detail their hands-on training classes, emphasizing the importance of practicing with equipment to build real skills. Throughout the conversation, the group discusses challenges facing trainers—including undervaluation and barriers to fair compensation—while reflecting on what true success looks like in the industry.

00:00 Consulting work and accident investigations

04:58 Calibration data and liability concerns

08:48 Lab scope training launch

11:32 Practicing lab scope basics

15:25 Common mistakes using scopes

19:03 Importance of planning and tools

20:10 Teaching procedural oil change steps

24:46 Improving technician education

27:00 Training value and budget changes

32:48 Challenges faced by fitness trainers

36:16 Launching the training company

39:46 Impact of low-cost car markets

41:29 Covid’s impact on auto repairs

47:30 Troubleshooting equipment issues

50:25 Defining personal success

52:21 Interviewing successful people

54:28 Thanking the audience

Episode 263 - Overcoming Addiction and Trying To Find Purpose in the Automotive Industry With Cole Tanner06 Apr 202600:59:10

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Cole Tanner, a veteran technician, who shares his journey through family business transitions, personal struggles, and the realities of working in the automotive industry. Cole opens up about overcoming addiction and trauma, emphasizing the importance of honest conversations about mental health in the trades. The group discusses technician frustrations regarding compensation, shop inefficiencies, and the vital need for support structures within the industry.

00:00 Frustrating restaurant wait experience

06:25 Growing up with my parents

08:11 Discussing childhood challenges

12:51 Breaking cycles of family trauma

16:25 Losing friends to addiction

19:34 Discussing compensation challenges

22:25 Consistent vs erratic performance

26:35 Running an efficient repair shop

27:42 Technicians disconnected from inspection value

33:12 End-of-month sales pressure

36:27 Improving communication and accountability

37:58 Discussing future plans and concerns

41:13 Finding balance and past experiences

46:02 Struggles with drinking habits

47:53 Hitting rock bottom moments

50:40 The dangers of addiction

53:47 Pushing for constant improvement

56:52 Taking responsibility after prison

Episode 262 - When Generations Collide - Growing an Auto Shop with Family Values With Matt Clarke30 Mar 202600:59:45

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Matt Clarke of Clark Automotive. Matt shares his journey back to his family's auto repair business, emphasizing the importance of refining operations and focusing on delivering high-quality service rather than chasing high car counts. The group discusses the evolving role of business coaching and training, including the value of accountability partners and the need to adapt to new technology in the industry.

00:00 Trade Show Costs Are Ridiculous

03:47 Union Inefficiency and Consequences

09:13 "Prioritizing Quality Over Quantity"

11:58 "Evolving Business Learning Challenges"

14:35 "Epiphany in Management Training"

18:14 "Refining Craft, Scaling Doubts"

22:03 Choosing the Right Coach

24:48 "Struggling with Accountability"

28:06 "Unexpected Family Connections"

33:15 "AI-Generated Estimate Dispute"

37:26 "Balancing AI and Personal Touch"

39:32 "Fitness, Gear, AI, and Darkness"

44:37 "Unfiltered Critique of a Guru"

45:20 "Mastery vs. Fake Expertise"

48:44 "Adapting Teaching to Audience"

54:39 "EV Market Resistance Analyzed"

56:42 "Building Growth and Connections"

58:38 "Vespa Culture: New York Only"

Episode 261 - Navigating Grief, Taxes, and Machine Shop Dreams in the Auto Repair Industry With David Veldman23 Mar 202601:05:12

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by David Veldman, who shares his personal journey coping with the recent loss of his father and its impact on his direction and motivation in the automotive repair business. The conversation explores how major life events, such as grief or health struggles, can affect business owners, especially those without strong support systems or sustainable operations. David Roman provides a contrasting perspective, emphasizing the importance of shifting focus toward the next generation and building a business that can survive without constant owner involvement.

00:00 "Grieving Without a Rudder"

10:05 "Finding Aim Through Adversity"

12:08 "Finding Direction and Motivation"

17:14 "Dad's Varied Career Path"

24:37 Machine Shop Succession Challenges

30:13 "The Box That Changed Me"

34:50 Efficient Flywheel Machining Strategy

39:58 "Importance of Knowledge and Processes"

47:09 "Pay Taxes Like an Employee"

51:14 "Tax Payment Delays Explained"

57:40 "Sad Start, Weird Ending"

01:03:03 Lakeside Anniversary Offer

01:04:49 "Possible Marijuana Overdose"

Episode 260 - Navigating Family Legacy and Change in the Automotive Business With Jackie & Darryl Beech16 Mar 202600:58:26

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Darryl and Jackie Beech to explore the dynamics of running and transitioning a family-owned automotive business. Darryl reflects on the importance of having strong business processes and work-life balance, sharing his motivation to set Jackie up for long-term success as she steps into a larger leadership role. Jackie opens up about the challenges—and privileges—of carrying forward her father's legacy, focusing on the value of maintaining strong customer relationships while preparing for inevitable changes.

00:00 "Doubting His Radio Future"

04:40 "Family, Loss, and Betrayal"

08:19 "Mismanagement and Lack of Structure"

10:42 "Shopware's Lifesaving Support"

14:53 Forensic Analysis in Auto Failures

18:21 "Tailored Vehicle Maintenance Advice"

21:31 Transitioning Business Leadership and Operations

23:38 "Balancing Business and Social Hurdles"

28:52 "Senior Tech Rejects Management Training"

31:54 "Saving a Family Legacy"

35:02 Navigating Tough Clients Effectively

38:49 "Embracing Leadership Humility"

40:32 "Early Career Diversification Needed"

44:45 "Growth Through Decisions and Challenges"

48:08 Managing Stress and Support Systems

49:55 "Overcoming Recession and Struggle"

53:34 "Navigating Family Life and Struggles"

56:48 "Childhood Memories: The Good Side"

Episode 259 - Building Company Culture and Beating Chargebacks in Automotive Shops With Kevaughn Williams09 Mar 202600:57:24

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Kevaughn Williams, Operations Manager at 360 Payments. Kevaughn underscores the importance of company culture in building a motivated, accountable team, highlighting how 360’s values of transparency and peer-to-peer accountability support both employees and customers. The discussion covers practical strategies for automotive shops to protect themselves from payment chargebacks, with Kevaughn outlining red flags to watch for and offering tips to improve payment security. 

00:00 "360 Culture and Leadership"

04:28 "Honesty and Accountability Matter"

08:13 "Impactful Workplace Culture Insights"

11:16 "Towing Office Experience Reflection"

14:50 Car Rental Customer Support Journey

15:54 Rental Car Upgrade Mishap

21:08 Mandatory Work Schedule Change

24:40 Building Youthful Team for Success

27:58 "Disney Trip as Life Milestone"

28:40 Prioritizing People Over Business

34:51 Preventing Text-to-Pay Fraud

38:11 Fraud Awareness and Payment Precautions

39:06 DocuSign ID and Card Verification

44:24 Chargeback Fraud at Local Shop

48:02 "High-Risk Account Threshold Explained"

50:23 Transparency and Informed Decisions

53:22 "David's CSP Concerns"

56:19 "Buttoning Debate Unresolved"

Episode 258 - Global Supply Chains, Tariffs, and the State of Parts Quality02 Mar 202601:02:49

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Australian shop owners Kosta Ka and Peter Leondis. The group explores the differences between the Australian and American auto repair industries, focusing on challenges with access to technical information, parts quality, and emerging certification hurdles for EVs. Kosta and Peter share insights on the importance of clear communication with clients and building strong shop cultures, while Lucas and David reflect on succession planning and the risks of lacking a solid business exit strategy.

00:00 Generational Gaps in Apprenticeships

05:39 "OnlyFans: Limited Choices Commentary"

15:31 Repair Shops Face Ebb and Flow

20:31 Aftermarket vs. Dealer Parts Pricing

23:47 "Licensing Drives Underground Competition"

31:33 Cultural Differences in Communication Styles

36:57 "Planning Beyond Fixing Cars"

40:20 Business Succession and Exit Challenges

47:01 Overcoming Founder Syndrome

50:49 "Core Values Drive Business Success"

55:13 Australian Auto Training Revolution

Bonus Episode - Every Episode Failed For Mike Allen - Here's Why And How Vision KC Will Fix It25 Feb 202600:57:03

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Mike Allen to preview the Vision KC conference and share industry stories. Mike recounts his challenges recording at the Elite Ignite conference and the ongoing technical mishaps that come with capturing live content. The hosts dive into shop pricing strategies, including how costs like diagnostics and amenities are often rolled into the final bill for customers. Plus, David gives a local's guide to the best food options in Kansas City, breaking down must-try barbecue, tacos, and team-dinner spots as Vision attendees prepare for their trip.

00:00 "Improper Merging Rant"

06:29 "Chicago Shop Success Story"

08:20 "Advisor's Hilarious Customer Story"

10:38 David's Intense Pre-Workout Effects

16:26 "Misheard Conversation in Restroom"

17:24 "Facebook: Scroll and Toilet Talk"

22:43 Kansas City Dining Overview

23:29 Alternative Dining Options Near Vision

28:33 Restaurant Struggles Amid Tight Margins

32:49 Rare 9+ Pizza Reviews

38:10 Jack Stack Barbecue Recommendation

40:46 "Bananas and Rice Identity"

46:18 "Manscaping Mishap and Spider Trap"

54:24 TPMS Law and Repair Ban

56:57 "See You at Vision"

Episode 257 - Responding to One-Star Reviews in the Automotive Industry With Tyler Wonderlic of Steer23 Feb 202601:01:07

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Tyler Wonderlic from Steer and AutoOps. Tyler explains the value of a CRM for shop owners, emphasizing its role in centralizing customer communication and improving retention. David shares his frustrations with customer miscommunication and online reviews, sparking a conversation about managing reputation and crafting thoughtful responses. Lucas and Tyler also discuss the importance of segmenting customer experiences to meet diverse expectations.

00:00 "Realizing Athletes Are Kids"

09:11 "Save $1,300 or Time?"

12:24 Steroid Loopholes Exploited by Chemists

20:41 "Bad Reviews, Full Parking Lots"

24:36 Learning from Criticism Strategically

26:42 "CRM Value and Subscriptions"

35:58 "Customizing CRM for Business Goals"

41:09 "Challenges with Accurate Data Analysis"

43:04 "Customer Service Expectations Rant"

51:51 "David's Family and Loss"

57:35 "Balancing Service and Spending"

59:34 "iPhone Over Safety Concerns"

Bonus Episode - Breaking Down Industry Silos: Collision and Mechanical Unite at the Northeast 202620 Feb 202600:53:37

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Ken Miller to preview the Northeast Trade Show and discuss the growing intersection between the collision and mechanical segments of the automotive industry. Ken highlights the expanded focus on mechanical education at this year’s show, emphasizing the importance of ADAS calibrations and the need for proper training and documentation. The discussion also covers the challenges created by industry consolidation, different approaches to compensation and workflow, and the shared responsibility for safety and professionalism in both mechanical and collision repair.

00:00 "Discovering the Northeast Show"

05:13 Real-World Expertise in Training

08:42 "Lessons from Collision Experience"

10:42 Aviation Error and Accountability

16:30 "Calibration Challenges in Repair Shops"

19:30 "Collision Shop Negligence and Exploitation"

23:22 Documentation: Key to Authentic Calibration

26:26 Dangerous Counterfeit Airbags Warning

28:58 TPMS Sensors and Dealer Liability

34:01 Collision Industry Consolidation Insights

34:58 "Understanding Business Value and Protection"

41:09 ADAS Reducing Accidents and Claims

43:52 "Value of Networking at Events"

45:19 Bridging Gaps in Automotive Teams

50:45 "Collaborating to Share Industry Knowledge"

52:18 "Empowering Industry Through Education"

Bonus Episode - Investing, Adapting, and Leading with Purpose in Auto Repair With Nelson Tavarez18 Feb 202600:52:56

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Nelson Tavarez, owner of Austin's Auto Service. Nelson shares his inspiring journey from working in telecommunications to becoming a successful shop owner, emphasizing the importance of discipline, saving, and seizing opportunities. The conversation delves into the impact of technology like Shop-Ware on shop efficiency and customer experience, as well as strategies for building wealth and financial security for both owners and technicians.

00:00 "Growth, Discipline, and Adapting"

04:53 "Taking a Gamble on Change"

07:20 "Trading Success Leads to Ownership"

13:16 Seamlessly Adopting Shopware Technology

16:19 Targeted Growth for Specialty Auto Shop

18:30 "Shopware's Future is Revolutionary"

22:23 "Personalized Service, Small-Shop Feel"

26:45 Trust, Change, and Lost Security

29:35 Generational Wealth Over Instant Gains

34:12 Maximizing Savings for Children

35:37 "From Rent to Ownership"

40:32 "Delayed Gratification and Society"

41:59 "Rethinking the Grind Mentality"

44:26 Sell What People Want

49:53 "Resilience and Team Effort"

51:33 Employee Prioritizes Family Over Career

Episode 256 - Why Most Shops Miss Out on Profits With Eric Joern of Kaizen CPAs16 Feb 202601:01:30

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Eric Joern for a deep dive into the realities of small business financial management in the auto repair industry. Eric stresses the importance of starting with a plan and leveraging professional guidance, rather than relying on risky trial-and-error approaches. The discussion highlights why using proper shop management systems and separating business finances is critical for long-term success.

00:00 "Valuable Business Advice and Insights"

10:15 Sales Tax Responsibilities Explained

15:34 Simple Budgeting for Profit

17:02 "Essential Shop Management Systems"

21:40 Shop Parts Tracking Essentials

29:56 "Seeking Proactive Tax Guidance"

35:04 "Importance of a Knowledgeable Accountant"

38:10 "Proactive Tax Planning Conversations"

43:34 "Inventory's Tax Impact Explained"

49:10 "Smart Tax Strategies Explained"

55:24 Focus on Strengths, Delegate Tasks

01:02:42 Excited for Business Improvement

Episode 255 - Tailoring Training for Automotive Technicians in a Rapidly Changing Industry with Andy Tirado09 Feb 202601:04:03

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

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Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Andy Tirado, co-founder of the ADAS Network. Andy discusses the challenges of delivering relevant, effective technical training across the automotive industry, highlighting the critical need for trainers to adapt content to local cultures and shop-specific needs. The conversation also explores the complexities of ADAS calibrations, from misinformation in service procedures to pressure from insurance companies.

00:00 Struggles with Local Training Participation

08:25 Improving Training Accessibility and Retention

10:24 "Training, Culture, and Communication"

20:09 "Missed Details in Calibration Procedure"

23:44 "ADAS Resource and Referral Network"

28:45 Greed, Insurance, and Right to Repair

33:43 "Taking Control of Business Processes"

40:54 Braking System Safety Concerns

46:09 Counterfeit Parts and Industry Issues

52:21 Car Alignment and Calibration Costs

53:56 "Trusting My Chosen Shop"

01:00:05 "ADAS Insights and Validation"

01:03:33 "Aligned for Selfless Collaboration"

Episode 254 - Grit, Growth, and Genuine Leadership in the Diesel Industry with Chris Gayne02 Feb 202600:51:39

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Chris Gayne, owner of Dale County Diesel. Chris shares his unique journey from Army attack helicopter pilot to diesel shop owner, highlighting the importance of leadership and integrity in building his team. The conversation covers why prioritizing people and culture over technical skill is critical, the value of honest customer communication, and the ongoing challenge of maintaining passion while running a successful business.

00:00 Garage Trouble Without License

06:19 "Learning Through Experience"

09:39 Truck Repairs and Industry Journey

12:59 "Results Over Passion"

15:55 "Passion and Honesty in Selling"

17:05 "Transparent Auto Repair Process"

20:52 "Morals Over Money"

25:31 "Passing the Torch"

26:24 "Plans for Business Continuity"

29:31 "Failed Recruitment Due to Diploma"

33:14 "Lessons on Hard Work"

37:25 "Maximizing Growth Within Business"

42:09 "Shifting Passion and Letting Go"

45:17 "Work-Life Balance Struggles"

46:32 "Guidance Counselor Tension Escalates"

51:01 "Unexpected Apology on Facebook"

Episode 253 - Small Town Shop Ownership, Family Dynamics, and Overcoming Resentment with John Presnell26 Jan 202600:56:13

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

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In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by John Presnell, a shop owner from North Carolina, who shares his journey in taking over the family business. John discusses overcoming personal and professional resentments as he transitioned from working under his parents to owning the shop. Key topics include the challenges of shop growth and efficiency, strategies for training and developing a younger team, and the importance of personal growth through forgiveness and mentorship.

00:00 "Florida Drivers in Mountains"

04:44 "Slow, Stressful 27-Mile Drive"

08:23 Frustration Over Van Repairs

12:17 "Engine Coolant Leak Fail"

13:43 Flatlands Pickup Talk

19:18 "Overcoming Negativity and Growing"

21:26 "Parables as Framework for Success"

24:34 "Career Choices and Challenges"

28:52 "Family Dynamics and Influence"

33:02 "Accident Leads to Lasting Injury"

34:52 "From Porta Potty to Upgraded Space"

39:05 "Reflections on Growth and Work"

42:51 "Start at the Beginning"

44:59 "Keeping Business Decisions Private"

48:35 "Community Action and Attendance"

50:15 "Over a Barrel Moment"

55:24 "Sense Trade-off in Marriage"

56:09 "Affirmative Response"

Episode 252 - Can You Transform Automotive Inspections with AI with Uwe Kleinschmidt19 Jan 202600:54:31

Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


In this episode, David and Lucas are joined by Uwe Kleinschmidt of AutoTechIQ. Uwe explains how AI-powered tools are revolutionizing the Digital Vehicle Inspection (DVI) process, highlighting how annotated photos and captions can help customers better understand repair recommendations. The discussion also explores industry coaching advice on customer communication, with Uwe challenging traditional authority-based approaches by emphasizing transparency and customer empowerment.

00:00 AI Streamlines Automotive Service Communication

06:39 "DVI: The Ultimate CRM Tool"

10:11 "Streamlining Auto Flow Processes"

11:51 "Routine Inspections for Vehicle Health"

15:18 "Optimal Vehicle Maintenance Decisions"

18:23 "Transparency Builds Trust in Service"

24:39 "Tech8IQ Delays Dispatch Process"

27:37 "AI Fixing Cost Discrepancies"

30:18 "Autonomy Issues in Service Inspections"

32:48 "Coaching Pushback on Customer Calls"

36:24 "Key KPI: Customer View Rate"

39:25 "Improving Customer Interaction Metrics"

44:27 Shopware Weakness and DVI Feedback

47:05 "Gen Z's Communication Preferences"

51:28 Embedded Comparison Video Idea

53:08 "AI Image Stirs Debate"

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