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| ATBS: w/ Ciji Wagner | 16 Jan 2026 | 01:01:32 | |
In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, we’re joined by Ciji, founder of Louder Than Silence, an organization providing free, trauma-specific care and community for survivors of sexual violence. Together, we explore what trauma-informed spaces actually look like, the difference between big-T and little-t trauma, and how harm often compounds in faith communities through misplaced authority, lack of boundaries, and spiritual bypassing.
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| Convo w/ Christy & Joshua Pt 3 | 19 Dec 2025 | 01:31:38 | |
In the final episode of this three-part series, Christy and Joshua come together to reflect on the shared impact of spiritual abuse and the long road toward truth and healing. Their conversation explores how harm reverberates through relationships, what accountability should look like, and what it means to move forward without erasing what happened. This closing chapter centers survivor clarity, connection, and the power of telling the full story. | |||
| ATBS: “Recovering from Purity Culture” w/ Dr. Camden Morgante | 21 Aug 2025 | 00:48:51 | |
In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, we sit down with Dr. Camden Morgante, a licensed psychologist, author, and speaker. Dr. Camden is the author of Recovering from Purity Culture, a book that helps individuals move beyond harmful teachings and begin the journey of healing. She shares insights from her work with clients, her own experiences, and her research into purity culture, offering a compassionate perspective on how people can begin to reconnect with themselves and their faith. | |||
| Ashley & Ray’s Story / Ontario, CA | 26 Oct 2022 | 01:34:56 | |
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| ATBS “The Next Chapter” w/ Nicole Mason | 12 Oct 2022 | 00:36:24 | |
| Aleigha & Neill’s Story / Louisville, Ky | 05 Oct 2022 | 02:12:46 | |
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| ATBS “In The Woods” w/ Emily Snook | 28 Sep 2022 | 00:28:31 | |
Join us for a conversation with Emily Snook about the crusades, Robin Hood, and how this myth can help inform us when considering who’s voices we listen to in the next phase of our journeys. | |||
| David’s Story / Oklahoma City, OK | 21 Sep 2022 | 01:38:42 | |
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| ATBS “The Village Hired a Law Firm” w/ Robert Callahan | 14 Sep 2022 | 00:20:37 | |
In this episode of At the Bus Stop, Attorney Robert Calahan breaks down what a law firm’s role is as an independent investigator in situations like what we see happening at The Village Church with Matt Chandler. | |||
| Ashley and Andrew’s Story / Los Angeles, CA | 07 Sep 2022 | 01:29:29 | |
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| Update: We’ll be back in Sept! | 10 Aug 2022 | 00:01:57 | |
We will be returning Sept 7 with new episodes! Composing, Sound Design, Mixing & Mastering - MajorPodcastEditing | |||
| Guests: Sheila Gregoire & Wendy Snyder | 27 Jul 2022 | 01:37:57 | |
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| Katelyn’s Story | 13 Jul 2022 | 01:13:13 | |
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline Composing, Sound Design, Mixing & Mastering - MajorPodcastEditing | |||
| ATBS: “Debriefing The Stone’s Statement” w/ Robert & Eric | 31 Jul 2025 | 00:55:46 | |
| Guest: Chuck Degroat | 22 Jun 2022 | 01:23:28 | |
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| The Village Church is SBC, Too | 08 Jun 2022 | 01:08:02 | |
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| Liz’s Story / Denver, CO | 25 May 2022 | 01:31:38 | |
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| Exciting Update: Sacred Wilderness | 16 May 2022 | 00:03:27 | |
| Nicole & Laurens's Story / Reno, NV | 11 May 2022 | 01:22:12 | |
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| Benjamin’s Story / Bethlehem College & Seminary | 27 Apr 2022 | 01:32:16 | |
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| Lindsey’s Story / Kansas City, MO | 13 Apr 2022 | 01:45:51 | |
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| Guest: Sheila Gregoire | 30 Mar 2022 | 01:17:46 | |
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| The Friend's Story / Columbia, Mo / Pt. 3 | 16 Mar 2022 | 01:06:17 | |
Follow Matt on Twitter @matty_bees Follow Kaylee on Twitter @escapingA29 Composing, Sound Design, Mixing & Mastering - MajorPodcastEditing | |||
| Matt & Cassie’s Story / Columbia, MO / Pt. 2 | 09 Mar 2022 | 01:28:20 | |
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| Kenny’s Story / The Austin Stone | 22 Jul 2025 | 01:22:31 | |
In this episode of the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast, Kenny shares his experience in the worship residency program at The Austin Stone. He recounts his initial passion for ministry, his transition from law school ambitions to church work, and the realities of support-raising, manual labor, and lack of mentorship during his time in the program. Kenny also reflects on his concerns with the church’s culture of celebrity and financial practices, the exploitation he witnessed, and the broader systemic failures he observed. | |||
| Derek & Kaylee’s Story / Columbia, MO / Pt. 1 | 02 Mar 2022 | 01:24:03 | |
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| Defining The Terms | 16 Feb 2022 | 00:59:08 | |
Composing, Sound Design, Mixing & Mastering - MajorPodcastEditing Butterfly House Films, LLC | |||
| Nicole’s Story / Houston, TX | 02 Feb 2022 | 01:46:44 | |
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| Elizabeth's Story / Kansas City, MO | 19 Jan 2022 | 01:22:40 | |
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| Johnna’s Story / Burbank, CA | 22 Dec 2021 | 00:59:25 | |
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| Acts 29 Background / The Crowded House Report | 22 Dec 2021 | 01:21:00 | |
| James’s Story / The Austin Stone | 16 Jul 2025 | 01:44:08 | |
James shares his experience with the Austin Stone church, including his early motivations for moving to Austin, the challenges he faced as a Mexican American in a predominantly white evangelical institution, and the barriers to leadership he encountered despite his qualifications. He discusses his experience raising support, internal cultural tensions, tokenism, health struggles tied to workplace stress, and the events that led to his departure from staff. The conversation highlights systemic issues within church leadership structures, particularly around race, power, and access. *Correction: James references reading through MLK’s “I have a Dream” speech and wanted to clarify it was actually “Letter from Birmingham Jail” | |||
| Kelley’s Story / The Austin Stone | 09 Jul 2025 | 01:18:54 | |
Kelley joins the podcast to share her experience as both a former member of the Austin Stone church and staff member of its affiliated nonprofit, For the City. She discusses the church’s culture, internal power dynamics, financial mismanagement, and the challenges of working within a complementarian system. Kelley reflects on her personal story of spiritual and emotional harm, organizational dysfunction, and the long-term impact of abusive structures masked by ministry language. Her story highlights broader patterns of spiritual and institutional abuse within the Austin Stone and similar evangelical networks. | |||
| Ben’s Story / The Austin Stone | 01 Jul 2025 | 01:20:15 | |
Ben joins the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast to share his experience at Austin Stone Church, a large SBC-affiliated church in Austin, Texas. He reflects on his decade-long involvement, including leadership roles and the creation of a ministry for LGBTQIA+ individuals. The conversation explores church culture, leadership dynamics, personal transformation, and the challenges of reconciling faith with identity. Ben also discusses his departure from the church and the emotional and relational costs of stepping away from evangelical expectations. | |||
| B’s Story / The Austin Stone | 25 Jun 2025 | 01:38:04 | |
In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, B shares her deeply personal story about the emotional toll of navigating immigration, identity, and faith. B recounts her years at the Austin Stone Church in Austin, Texas, where she joined a residency program to serve the local Latino community, only to face institutional racism, cultural insensitivity, and burnout. Her story highlights the disconnect between church rhetoric and practice, especially around issues of justice, immigration, and diversity, and offers a candid look at the emotional and spiritual cost of being marginalized in faith-based spaces. | |||
| Intro to Stories from The Austin Stone | 24 Jun 2025 | 00:46:45 | |
In this episode, Johnna & Jay introduce a new four-part series investigating The Austin Stone Church in Austin, Texas. Joined by Board member Emily, they discuss the church’s influential role in evangelical culture, its connections to Acts 29 and the SBC, and a troubling pattern of abuse, cover-ups, and systemic harm within its leadership and programs. The episode highlights the church’s public image versus its internal realities, and previews the survivor stories that will follow in the coming weeks. | |||
| ATBS - The SBC Is Still Failing Survivors | 21 Jun 2025 | 01:00:59 | |
In this episode, Jay and Johnna debrief the 2025 Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting. They discuss why Johnna chose to attend alone, the deaths of two high-profile survivors—Jennifer Lyell and Duane Rollins—and the emotional and physical toll survivor advocacy has taken. They reflect on the SBC’s failure to follow through on promised reforms, the lack of accountability, and the ongoing harm caused by the institution’s refusal to meaningfully address abuse. The episode also explores the role of power, complicity, and silence within evangelical culture, as well as the broader implications for churches and Christian communities across the country. | |||
| BBTB - From Treaties To Tear Gas | 14 Jun 2025 | 00:10:23 | |
This episode examines the legacy of the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and draws a clear line from that policy to other moments of systemic injustice in American history—slavery, Japanese internment, discriminatory policing, and modern ICE raids. Through historical analysis and personal reflection, Jay challenges the narrative of American exceptionalism, exposes the role of the white church in reinforcing inequality, and confronts the systems that sustain white supremacy. | |||
| Christy's Story / Anaheim, CA Pt 2 | 18 Dec 2025 | 01:34:42 | |
In Episode 2 of this three-part series, Christy shares her story of spiritual harm, silence, and survival within church systems that protected power over people. She reflects on the personal cost of being unheard, the impact on identity and faith, and the long road toward naming what happened. Christy’s testimony deepens the series by centering the lived experience of abuse and the courage it takes to speak after being dismissed. | |||
| ATBS “Church Discipline” w/ Mollie Callahan | 30 May 2025 | 00:45:37 | |
Mollie Callahan, spiritual director and seminary student, joins to discuss the misuse of church discipline, its harmful impact, and how scripture has often been misapplied in these situations. She examines 1 Corinthians 5, Matthew 18, and stories like the woman caught in adultery, Zacchaeus, and the woman at the well to reframe church discipline through the lens of Jesus’ compassion, agency, and pursuit of the hurting. | |||
| Joyce’s Story / PCA / FL | 22 May 2025 | 01:38:08 | |
In this episode, Joyce shares her story of involvement in a PCA church in Florida and how her experience of marriage, faith, and community unfolded over more than a decade. She describes the early support her family received, her deep investment in church life, and how that shifted when she began raising concerns about her marriage. Joyce outlines the church’s response, her efforts to seek counseling, the process of pursuing divorce, and the consequences that followed, including church discipline. This episode examines how systems designed for accountability can fail those in crisis and how theological frameworks can impact the choices survivors feel they’re allowed to make. An update on Joyce’s situation is shared at the end of the episode. | |||
| ATBS: “Holy Paranoia” W/ Jared Stacy | 14 May 2025 | 01:07:05 | |
In this “At the Bus Stop” episode, Dr. Jared Stacy, a theologian and ethicist, joins Johnna and Jay to unpack the link between conspiracy theories, Christian nationalism, and the culture of abuse within white evangelical spaces. Drawing from his personal experience and academic research, Jared explores how storytelling shapes power, how conspiracy theories thrive in religious communities, and why many churches prioritize maintaining societal structures over faithful witness. The conversation also delves into the dehumanizing effects of disinformation, the role of the church in rural America, and what it means to follow Jesus in a moment of cultural and political disreality. Jared’s upcoming book offers language and insight for those wrestling with these complex dynamics. | |||
| Seth’s Story / Columbus, OH | 17 Apr 2025 | 01:18:46 | |
Be sure to listen to episode 79 “Alicia’s Story” to hear about her experience with this same pastor. | |||
| ATBS: Community, Accountability, and Care | 21 Mar 2025 | 00:55:02 | |
In this community conversation, the team from Bodies Behind the Bus responds to recent events involving The New Evangelicals and the release of a NetGrace investigation. They share their perspectives on accountability, integrity, and the responsibility of platforms in survivor spaces. | |||
| ATBS: “Becoming the Pastor’s Wife” w/ Beth Allison Barr | 18 Mar 2025 | 01:04:50 | |
In this episode of The Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast, we welcome Beth Allison Barr, historian, professor, and author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood and her latest book, Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Beth shares her insights on the historical roots of patriarchy in the church, the erasure of women in ministry, and the complex role of pastor’s wives in evangelical spaces. She unpacks the ways in which women have been silenced, how the Southern Baptist Convention’s structures perpetuate inequality, and why understanding history is crucial to moving forward. | |||
| ATBS - “Fundie Cult Beliefs Going Mainstream w/ Christian Nationalism” ft. Margaret Bronson & Eric Isaac | 06 Mar 2025 | 01:35:13 | |
This episode of Bodies Behind the Bus features Margaret Bronson and Eric Isaac discussing the rise of Christian nationalism and its intersection with fundamentalist cult beliefs. Margaret shares insights from her experience in a high-control religious group, highlighting issues of female subjugation, the quiverfull movement, lack of education, and financial entrapment. Eric connects these experiences to broader patterns of spiritual abuse, coercion, and religious power structures. The conversation explores how extreme fundamentalist ideologies are becoming mainstream in America, their ties to white supremacy, and the political implications of these beliefs. Margaret’s ig: https://www.instagram.com/margaretrosebronson?igsh=cW5nbHZ1ZnQ4dTU0 | |||
| ATBS: “The Spirit of Justice” w/ Jemar Tisby | 25 Feb 2025 | 00:58:44 | |
Subscribe to Jemar’s Substack Here: Footnotes by Jemar Tisby | Jemar Tisby, PhD | Substack Buy “The Spirit of Justice” https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-spirit-of-justice-stories-of-faith-race-and-resistance-jemar-tisby/20859536?ean=9780310144854 “I Am the Spirit of Justice” for kids ages 4-7 https://bookshop.org/p/books/i-am-the-spirit-of-justice-jemar-tisby/21291875?ean=9780310145561 “Stories of The Spirit of Justice” for kids ages 8-12+ https://bookshop.org/p/books/stories-of-the-spirit-of-justice-jemar-tisby/21291877?ean=9780310145592 Additional Books by Jemar: https://jemartisby.com/books/ | |||
| Gracia’s Story / IHOPKC / Kansas City, MO | 20 Feb 2025 | 01:36:53 | |
| Crissie & Walker’s Story / Chapel Hill Bible Church / North Carolina Pt 3 | 30 Jan 2025 | 00:57:49 | |
Walker contact: walkerbbtb@gmail.com Crissie contact: inspiredifferences@gmail.com Link to Transcript from Concerned Congregant meeting (200 in attendance) - October 2021https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MUJ_ri2nuRP2vnAf6oU1iXIGljSVFHu3/view?usp=sharing Congregant Feedback Survey (leadership stated they didn't think there were any concerns following the October meeting, and then refused to start the GRACE survey (which was ready) in December 2021 so congregants did their own survey) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P1Qx8_kx9AFLBwUdTHzLJ_CMlzni6bM8/view?usp=sharing NDA document -https://drive.google.com/file/d/11mn6mrHTZ4VVvEQAUHZnqwCgRd5IHlaS/view?usp=sharing Find more information, and future stories here - https://chapelhillbiblechurch.org/ Keep up with all things on X @CHBConfidential | |||
| Joshua’s Story / Anaheim, CA Pt 1 | 17 Dec 2025 | 01:54:15 | |
In Episode 1 of this three-part series, Joshua shares his story of spiritual harm, silencing, and the cost of telling the truth inside church systems built to protect power. His testimony traces the personal and relational fallout of abuse, the pressure to stay quiet, and the long road toward clarity and agency. This episode centers Joshua’s voice and sets the foundation for the series to come. | |||