Beyond the Box – Détails, épisodes et analyse

Welcome to the debut episode of Beyond the Box with Monica Kelsey, a brand-new podcast from Monica Kelsey, Founder and CEO of Safe Haven Baby Boxes. This series will explore the stories behind the mission to protect newborns and provide safe, anonymous options for mothers in crisis.

In this first episode, America’s favorite fire chief, John Moriarty, joins the conversation to reflect on the journey of bringing a Safe Haven Baby Box to Carmel Fire Department. With 43 years of service, John shares how his passion for community outreach led him to champion this life-saving initiative. From initial skepticism to full-hearted support, he recounts the challenges faced during the installation process and the unforgettable moment when their first baby was surrendered—1,194 days after the box was put in place.

The discussion highlights the impact of Baby Amelia’s legacy, the changing attitudes within the fire service, and how new legislation, such as Bill 345, is streamlining adoptions to ensure babies find loving homes faster. This episode sets the stage for future conversations about the power of collaboration, the importance of education, and the lives forever changed by Safe Haven Baby Boxes.

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Linda Znachko, founder of He Knows Your Name Ministry, recounts her journey of providing dignity and proper burials for abandoned infants after seeing a news report about "Baby Doe" found in a dumpster. Her powerful mission statement that "Doe is not a name, a dumpster is not a grave, and a diaper is not burial clothing" has guided her work for over fifteen years. 

Linda shares the heartbreaking yet inspiring journey of how she became an advocate for these infants, beginning with the tragic story of Baby Nicholas and later, Baby Amelia—whose tiny footprint became the symbol of the Safe Haven Baby Boxes movement. Featured in this episode:

Monica and Linda discuss the challenges of raising awareness about safe haven laws, the importance of naming and honoring these lost children, and the crucial role of community involvement. Their deep-rooted passion for protecting vulnerable babies and supporting struggling mothers shines through, as they emphasize the need for continued education, advocacy, and collaboration.

Monica is working hard to put Linda out of business by ensuring babies are safely surrendered rather than abandoned, while continuing to honor those who have been lost.

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What happens when an abandoned baby grows up to protect the very streets where they were once left behind? In this deeply moving conversation, South Bend Police Officer Matthew Stewart shares his extraordinary journey from being the "newspaper baby" – abandoned in a cardboard box in an apartment complex breezeway on Christmas Eve 2000 – to becoming a guardian of his community.

Matthew's story unfolds with remarkable candor as he recounts how tenants heard his cries, leading to his rescue and subsequent adoption. The timing of his abandonment – just before Indiana implemented the Safe Haven Law in 2001 – highlights how different his story might have been had his teenage birth parents had access to safe surrender options like baby boxes. Born at home without medical care and kept for a week before being abandoned, Matthew's very survival seems miraculous.

The conversation takes an extraordinary turn as Matthew reveals how, during his police training, he discovered that the detective who investigated his abandonment case still worked with the department. This full-circle moment provided answers to questions he'd carried his entire life. With remarkable grace, Matthew shares his perspective on connecting with his birth parents and half-siblings, demonstrating forgiveness rather than resentment for the desperate circumstances that led to his abandonment.

Host Monica Kelsey, founder of Safe Haven Baby Boxes and an abandoned infant herself, creates a powerful space for authentic connection as they discuss shared experiences of adoption, identity, and finding purpose beyond difficult beginnings. Their conversation illuminates how two people once left behind have transformed potential tragedy into lives of service, family, and remarkable resilience.

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Kentucky State Representative Nancy Tate joins Monica Kelsey to share the powerful legislative journey behind bringing Safe Haven Baby Boxes to the Commonwealth. As a freshman legislator, Tate led the charge on three bills that passed unanimously—an extraordinary feat in today’s political climate. Her passion was sparked by the real-life abandonment of a baby in Bowling Green, and she went above and beyond by visiting Indiana to see the technology in action before advocating for it back home.

Together, Tate and Kelsey dive into how baby boxes meet mothers in crisis with compassion and discretion. In a culture increasingly shaped by privacy and digital interactions, anonymous surrender options provide a modern, life-saving solution. As Kelsey puts it, “These kids are doing everything behind a screen,” and baby boxes meet that reality with dignity and care.

Today, Kentucky has over 50 baby boxes thanks to grassroots support—not government funding. Tate’s vision of 155 boxes, one in every county, continues to rally communities statewide. Through heartfelt stories of birth mothers and adoptive families, this episode highlights how real change begins with understanding human needs—and ends with lives saved.

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What happens when a child once abandoned becomes a passionate advocate for others facing the same fate? Isabella’s remarkable journey, from being left at a Chinese orphanage at less than two days old to becoming a dedicated champion for Safe Haven Baby Boxes in America, showcases the extraordinary resilience of the human spirit.

Adopted at age six by an American family, Isabella faced tremendous challenges—adapting to a new language and culture while navigating physical limitations from malnutrition and severe scoliosis. Instead of allowing these difficulties to define her, Isabella embraced them as stepping stones toward growth, competing in pageants, advocating for legislative changes to protect abandoned babies, and pursuing a future in elementary education at the University of Kentucky.

Perhaps most powerful is Isabella’s compassionate reflection on her birth parents, who likely undertook a difficult two-day journey to ensure her safety at an orphanage—a profound act of love in a culture where female babies often faced rejection. Isabella’s story is a powerful testament to the idea that our beginnings never need to dictate our future impact, inviting listeners to reconsider how personal challenges can be transformed into purposeful action.

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A cardboard box in a frigid apartment hallway during a winter storm became the unlikely beginning of an extraordinary full-circle story. Matthew, abandoned as a newborn just days before Christmas in 2000, has defied incredible odds to become a South Bend police officer—the very department that investigated his abandonment. Detective Gene Eyster vividly remembers that night: two feet of snow, temperatures around 15 degrees, and bitter winds. He rushed to the scene and nicknamed the infant “Baby Jesus” because of the timing and circumstances, eventually tracking down Matthew’s parents after three intense days of investigation.

For twenty years afterward, Gene often found himself reflecting on the fate of “Baby Jesus,” driving past the apartment complex regularly and wondering what had become of him. Questions lingered in his mind, unresolved and poignant: Had their paths unknowingly crossed? Was the child still living nearby? Then, a chance conversation between Matthew and a fellow officer revealed the astonishing connection—“Baby Jesus” had grown up to wear the same uniform and patrol the same streets where he’d been found.

Their reunion was deeply healing, especially for Gene, who had recently lost his own adult son. The striking similarities between Matthew and Gene’s late son—same height, build, even facial hair—felt almost providential. For Matthew, meeting Gene brought closure and insight into his earliest days, offering answers he’d sought his entire life.

This remarkable reunion highlights the vital importance of Monica Kelsey’s mission with Safe Haven Baby Boxes, providing desperate parents with anonymous and safe ways to surrender their infants. With 59 babies safely surrendered in baby boxes nationwide and over 200 through legal handoffs, each child now has the opportunity to craft their own extraordinary life story—just as Matthew has done.

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What happens when a night of celebration turns into the worst moment of your life? In this raw and unflinching conversation, Monica sits down with her son JJ to discuss the night that forever changed both their lives—when JJ's choices behind the wheel resulted in the death of his best friend Casey.

The conversation weaves through memories of Casey, described lovingly as someone who was "exactly like me... very outgoing and outspoken" and "the glue that held a lot of our group together." We hear about their friendship, their shared passion for mechanics, and the fateful graduation party that would end in tragedy. JJ recounts the moments after the Jeep flipped, his desperate attempts at CPR, and the surreal experience of seeing his mother arrive on scene as a first responder.

What stands out most powerfully is JJ's absolute refusal to shirk responsibility. When asked why he pled guilty, he states simply: "When you screw up, own it. You don't own it, you're just enabling yourself to screw up more." This philosophy of accountability becomes the foundation for his remarkable transformation during and after his four-year prison sentence.

Perhaps most striking is JJ's reflection that "the day that Casey died is the day that my life was saved," acknowledging that before the accident, he was heading down a dangerous path. Today, with a growing family and purpose-driven life, JJ speaks at schools about his experience, hoping to prevent others from making similar mistakes. The silent rooms full of attentive students speak to the power of his authenticity.

This episode isn't just about tragedy—it's about how taking full responsibility for our actions, even the most devastating ones, can become the catalyst for profound personal growth. What would happen if we all faced our mistakes with such unflinching honesty?

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A rare and powerful conversation unfolds as Monica Kelsey welcomes a birth mother who surrendered her baby in a Safe Haven Baby Box. With remarkable courage, this young woman shares her complete journey—from discovering she was pregnant at 16 weeks to the night she gave birth alone in her bathroom, guided only by Google searches and YouTube videos.

The raw emotion is palpable as she describes holding her newborn daughter for six hours, praying for clarity while feeling overwhelmed by circumstances that left her "treading water." Her powerful testimony reveals how she discovered Safe Haven Baby Boxes through TikTok videos just days before giving birth, and the spiritual guidance she felt leading her to make this life-altering decision.

What makes this conversation truly extraordinary is the transformation we witness. From the fear and isolation of her surrender experience to finding unexpected community among strangers who embraced her without judgment, this birth mother articulates profound truths about healing, purpose, and grace. "I surrendered," she explains, "knowing that I saved her and it saved me."

The episode takes an inspiring turn as Monica and the birth mother discuss turning pain into purpose. With newfound confidence, this young woman now hopes to lead support groups specifically for Safe Haven birth mothers—a resource that doesn't currently exist but is desperately needed. Her message to others in similar situations resonates with compassion: "You're loved and valued, and all you have to do is call someone, and the community of people that you don't even know exist will go millions of miles across the world to do whatever they can to help you."

This conversation illuminates the beauty that can emerge from darkness when judgment is replaced with understanding. For anyone who has faced impossible choices or wondered about the women behind Safe Haven surrenders, this episode offers profound insights about human resilience, divine guidance, and the healing power of purpose.

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From a simple conversation to a nationwide movement saving hundreds of lives—the untold story of Safe Haven Baby Boxes unfolds through an intimate chat between founder Monica Kelsey and former Indiana State Representative Casey Cox, the man who authored America's very first baby box legislation.

Their reunion at Woodburn headquarters reveals the extraordinary behind-the-scenes struggle that brought this life-saving concept to reality. When government agencies insisted no safety protocols could make baby boxes viable, Monica made the bold decision to install them anyway—a risk that would ultimately save 288 children's lives and counting.

"I just wanted to save one baby a year," Monica confesses, recalling her frustration when state officials rejected the concept despite finding approximately two abandoned infants dead annually in Indiana. Casey shares his perspective as a freshman legislator who saw potential in Monica's revolutionary idea: "I thought it was wild...but honestly, I thought it was a great idea."

What follows is a master class in persistence, as they recount legislative battles, regulatory roadblocks, and the watershed moment when the first infant was safely surrendered—a midnight text message that changed everything. Now operating in 22 states with 59 babies saved directly through boxes and another 229 through safe haven handoffs, their partnership demonstrates how ordinary citizens can create extraordinary change.

This deeply moving conversation isn't just about policy—it's about purpose, courage, and the ripple effects of standing firm when facing opposition. As Monica puts it, "The right thing to do is always the right thing to do." For anyone who's ever wondered if one person can make a difference, this episode provides an emphatic and inspiring answer.

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Every revolution begins with a moment of clarity. For Monica Kelsey and her friend Pam Stenzel, that moment happened in Cape Town, South Africa, where they encountered their first "Baby Safe" – a simple device allowing desperate mothers to safely surrender infants they couldn't care for. That discovery, sketched on a Delta napkin during their flight home, evolved into Safe Haven Baby Boxes, now operating in 22 states across America.

This deeply personal conversation reveals how two adoptees transformed their own stories of redemption into a movement saving countless newborn lives. Monica and Pam candidly discuss the philosophical battles they've fought since day one: prioritizing a child's right to life over debates about heritage and medical history. As Pam shares, "My biological mother was 15 years old and was raped. She was in foster care at the time... I was the poster child for abortion." These personal perspectives powerfully frame their compassionate approach to women in crisis.

The friends explore critical distinctions between confidentiality and true anonymity, challenging the traditional Safe Haven model that requires face-to-face surrenders. Through poignant stories of mothers they've counseled – from the woman who YouTubed how to cut an umbilical cord to another who walked miles to avoid surrendering in her own neighborhood – they illuminate why anonymous options matter. Despite persistent opposition from adoptee rights groups and regulatory hurdles in various states, their mission remains unwavering: baby first, mother second, with support for whatever choice each woman makes.

Whether you're interested in adoption advocacy, crisis pregnancy support, or simply the power of friendship to spark social change, this conversation will leave you contemplating what other "crazy ideas" might transform lives. As Pam wisely reminds us about their decade of work: "God did not call us to be successful, He called us to be faithful." That faithfulness has created a legacy of lives saved and mothers supported through their darkest moments.

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