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Agentic Commerce and Contextual Intelligence for Wholesale Distributors & Manufacturers21 Nov 202501:33:56

What does it take to navigate tariffs, rate cuts, and AI disruption all at once?

Hosts Kevin Brown and Tom Burton break down the week’s headlines that matter most to manufacturers and distributors, from the U.S. government shutdown and Fed policy to the emerging reality of AI‑driven decision‑making and agentic commerce. Discover why contextual intelligence is now a core leadership skill and how data strategy can turn economic uncertainty into competitive advantage. 


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why the shutdown’s “fix” is really a delay until January 31, and how prediction markets like Polymarket quantify that risk 
  • The truth about tariffs and refund rumors, and why smart pricing beats policy guesswork
  • What the Fed’s next decision means for capital, lending, and distribution growth plans 
  • How AI‑enabled CRM and customer intelligence platforms deliver clarity from chaos 
  • Why leaders who blend economic awareness + data fluency will own the next decade of wholesale innovation 


Episode Highlights:

  • 03 : 12 –  The shutdown “ends”… or does it? Budget reset and political realities behind the deal 
  • 16 : 40 –  Prediction markets vs. traditional polls: how Polymarket nailed its forecast 
  • 31 : 25 –  Rate‑cut drama: inside the Fed meeting math and the Burton Market prediction 
  • 48 : 07 –  Tariff talk decoded, methodology matters more than headlines
  • 01 : 03 : 14 – Refunds or fantasy? Legal complexity of tariff paybacks explained
  • 01 : 14 : 58 –  AI and contextual intelligence: from theory to tool sets inside LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ 
  • 01 : 28 : 47 –  Final takeaways, leadership, data literacy, and the new rules of economic resilience 


Meet the Hosts:

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are co‑founders of LeadSmart Technologies, creators of LeadSmart Channel Cloud™, an AI‑enabled Customer Intelligence and Smart CRM platform purpose‑built for manufacturers and distributors. They bring decades of experience in distribution operations, software engineering, and data strategy to help leaders turn siloed information into growth insight.


Tools & Frameworks Mentioned:

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ — Unified AI CRM for distributors & manufacturers 
  • Context Engineering — Aligning AI systems with business intent 
  • Agentic Commerce — Autonomous AI workflows for B2B transactions 
  • Prediction Markets (Polymarket) — Crowdsourced economic signal analysis 
  • Customer Intelligence Framework — Transforming ERP and CRM data into actionable insight 


Closing Insight:

“AI doesn’t replace relationships, it reinforces them by removing friction.” — Kevin Brown 

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How Distributors Stay Profitable in An Era of Uncertain Tariffs14 Nov 202501:22:45

What happens when tariffs, rate cuts, and AI forecasting collide in the world of wholesale distribution?

In this episode, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton break down the latest economic, technological, and policy shifts affecting distributors and manufacturers.

From the longest U.S. government shutdown in history to the Supreme Court’s pending tariff ruling, they unpack what these changes mean for margins, pricing, and the role of AI-driven customer intelligence in building resilient distribution networks.

What You’ll Learn:

  • How government shutdowns and rate changes create ripple effects across distribution
  • The true meaning of a 17.9% average tariff rate, and why not everyone feels it equally
  • Why tariff refunds could take years (or never happen at all)
  • How AI-enabled CRM and contextual intelligence are helping distributors gain visibility into customers and pricing gaps
  • What smart distributors are doing to balance efficiency, inventory, and profitability heading into 2026


Episode Highlights:

  • 03:10 – The U.S. government shutdown “ends”… or just gets delayed until January 31
  • 15:25 – How prediction markets like Polymarket are shaping economic forecasting
  • 27:40 – The Fed’s next move: dissenters, inflation targets, and “The Burton Market”
  • 43:05 – Tariff talk: why the Supreme Court ruling isn’t really about tariffs
  • 55:18 – Mark Brohan’s article on the 17.9% effective tariff rate and what it means for distributors
  • 01:07:34 – Why smaller distributors dependent on wholesalers face steeper challenges
  • 01:16:55 – Final thoughts: AI, efficiency, and the future of pricing power


Meet the Hosts:

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are co-founders of LeadSmart Technologies, creators of LeadSmart Channel Cloud™, the industry’s first AI-enabled Customer Intelligence and Smart CRM platform built exclusively for manufacturers and distributors.


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ – Unified customer intelligence platform for distributors and manufacturers
  • Polymarket – Decentralized prediction market for economic forecasting
  • Yale Budget Lab Study – Analysis of U.S. tariff rates and macroeconomic effects
  • Context Engineering – Aligning AI systems with business intent
  • Customer Intelligence Framework – Turning siloed ERP, CRM, and eCommerce data into actionable insights

Closing Insight:

“AI doesn’t replace relationships, it reinforces them by removing friction.” — Kevin Brown

From tariff volatility to AI-driven opportunity, this episode explores how distributors can navigate uncertainty with smarter strategy, deeper data, and stronger customer connections.

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Why Over 90% of AI Pilots Fail, and What Wholesale Distribution Can Learn From It29 Aug 202501:29:12

What do college football, tariffs, and AI pilots gone wrong have in common?

In this week’s Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton connect cultural trends, economic contradictions, and digital transformation in wholesale distribution. From the E³ Model (Experience, Efficiency, Effectiveness) to LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ and the failure rate of corporate AI pilots, this episode explores why distributors must move from siloed data to customer intelligence platforms that drive real growth.


What You’ll Learn

  • Why redefining CRM as a Customer Enablement Tool changes adoption and ROI
  • How tariff extensions and Liberation Day shifts affect supply chain planning
  • Why most AI pilot projects fail, and how to avoid repeating their mistakes
  • How the hidden buyer phenomenon is reshaping B2B purchasing decisions
  • Why customer experience investment will be the biggest trend in 2026


Episode Highlights:

  • 03:55 – College football, NIL money, and how it parallels short-term vs. long-term strategy in distribution
  •  12:40 – LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ and why CRM reimagined means measurable outcomes
  •  22:05 – Breaking down GDP growth: why a 3.3% headline hides real 1.6% growth
  •  31:48 – Tariffs beyond China: Liberation Day shocks for Southeast Asia supply chains
  •  42:15 – The E³ Model: Experience, Efficiency, and Effectiveness as the new playbook
  •  53:02 – Why 95% of AI pilots fail and how to set success criteria
  •  01:04:18 – Invisible influencers: the hidden buyers shaping B2B decisions
  •  01:19:50 – Customer experience as the driver—not the byproduct—of transactions


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ – AI-enabled CRM + customer intelligence platform
  • GeniusFeed – AI-driven smart alerts for reps
  • E³ Model – Experience, Efficiency, Effectiveness as growth pillars
  • Agentic AI Workflows – AI-driven automation with expert oversight
  • Hidden Revenue Detection – surfacing untapped opportunities in ERP/eCommerce data

Closing Insight:

“If you have siloed data, you have siloed AI. The winners will unify data to make supply chains resilient and future-proof.” – Kevin Brown

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ISA Summer Series Recap With Guests Brandon Breen and Kristin Kraai-Keely15 Sep 202300:40:33

Did you miss ISA Summer Sessions? Then we've got you covered! This week, Tom & Kevin are joined by Kristin Kraai-Keely and Brandon Breen, who organized these informative ISA sessions. We'll review the most important topics and key takeaways from these talks and get you up to date. And if you were able to attend, you won't want to miss these unique, personal insights from the sessions' organizers. 

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Getting The Most Out Of B2B Ecommerce Growth08 Sep 202300:49:01

According to a recent Digital Commerce 360 survey, B2B eCommerce growth is continuing in the wholesale distribution sector...yet only 17% of those surveyed said they offered full end-to-end integration of commerce transactions. Is your company one of those, and are you missing out on this exciting growth trend? This week, Tom and Kevin dive into the facts and figures to show the trends in B2B eComm growth. Additionally, we take a look at the contraction in U.S. manufacturing, and how the pace might be stabilizing at lower levels.  And of course, we wrap it up with the latest news in AI, and how important it is to use platforms that are officially sanctioned.

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A Look At The Manufacturing Economy With Guest Bart Schwartz25 Aug 202300:57:24

Manufacturing activity in the U.S. Mid-Atlantic region grew at its strongest pace since April 2022, as new orders surged amidst robust consumer demand. But at the same time, government data reveals that for the first six months of 2023, all distribution and manufacturing sales were flat at about $10.93 trillion. What's the deal here? To find out, we brought in manufacturing consultant Bart Schwartz to help give us an insider perspective on the current state of the manufacturing economy. We also discuss how AI is being used for recruitment, and even take a look at the idea of luck: what do lucky people do that makes them lucky?

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The Effect Of Deflation On B2B, With Guest Ian Heller18 Aug 202301:04:12

 Understanding the relationship—and unintended consequences—of how economic factors intertwine is not an easy thing to wrap your head around. But this week, Tom & Kevin are joined by Ian Heller, founder of Distribution Strategy Group, to talk about how ongoing economic changes impact wholesale distribution. We also discuss the risks associated with lower prices and deflation, and how "data Quality" really matters for your business. In our ongoing look at artificial intelligence in wholesale distribution, we ask if AI should be a feature or a strategy, and take a closer look at Amazon's AI review tool and ask what could be next!

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The Economy, The Metaverse, and AI In Distribution11 Aug 202300:59:30

Is the metaverse just the next wave of video gaming, or the future of wholesale distribution? The industrial metaverse enables more resilient supply chains and localized manufacturing through the use of existing tools such as digital twins. In an interesting contrast, four in ten people expect AI to improve work quality and creativity, while three in ten expect a deterioration. This week, Kevin and Tom take a deeper look at the metaverse, AI, and the promise that technology may (or may not) hold for the future of wholesale distribution. We also take a look at new economic data: manufacturing has slowed in 2023, yet small businesses are noticing slightly better business conditions, creating a less pessimistic outlook about the economy’s future. So why the contrast? 

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Our One-Year Anniversary With Guest David Gordon04 Aug 202300:59:48

Believe it or not, we've been producing Around The Horn in Wholesale Distribution for a year now! To celebrate, we're joined by David Gordon, President of Channel Marketing Group, to take a look at the state of wholesale distribution. Consumer confidence is up, unemployment is down, but fears of recession are still on the horizon. How does that make sense? Are those fears regional, national, or global? Kevin, Tom, and David take a deep dive into the news to separate the soundbites from the data points and reveal some true insights. Oh, and happy birthday to us!

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Data, Tech and Supply Chain: Are You Planning For What's Coming Next?01 Aug 202300:59:08

Some distributors are choosing to go beyond the traditional e-commerce channel and venture into the B2B marketplace space, and they are seeing a massive ROI as a result. Are you prepared to make the same leap? This week, Kevin and Tom discuss how your data—and the way you manage it—is key to making successful eComm moves. Spoiler alert: if distributors are not willing to adapt to the changing needs and wants of customers, they’ll be leaving money on the table and losing customers to more forward-thinking competitors. We also take a look at mergers & acquisitions for the month of June...with some surprising results.

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A Special Conversation With Dirk Beveridge21 Jul 202301:04:31

This week, Kevin and Tom are proud to feature guest Dirk Beveridge, the visionary entrepreneur and the founder of UnleashWD, the premier design, strategy, and innovation firm in wholesale distribution. In an in-depth, hour-long conversation, Dirk discusses his takes on topics ranging from AI in manufacturing to online buyers and much more. It's a conversation that's both informative and insightful - one you'll won't want to miss!

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Exploring The Amazon B2B Strategy With Brian Beck15 Jul 202300:57:07

There's no two ways around it: every wholesale distributor will eventually need a B2B Amazon strategy. This week, Tom & Kevin feature author, consultant, coach, and all-around B2B guru Brian Beck to Around The Horn to talk about what this all-important customer journey should look like. In addition, Brian shares his insights to supply chain logistics and how AI is rapidly changing the entire wholesale distribution landscape. 

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Overcoming Supply Chain Challenges and AI Security Issues07 Jul 202300:52:47

Data integrity, data security, and supply chain efficiency may be three of the most important issues facing wholesale distribution in the 21st century. And with the advent and proliferation of AI, security and integrity take on new challenges we could not have predicted even two years ago. In this episode, Kevin and Tom take a deep dive into how wholesale distributors can face these challenges head-on, including redesigning your supply chain for nearshoring, and integrating platforms that keep your data clean and safe.

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How To Future-Proof Wholesale Distribution: Fed Policy, Tariffs, and AI Transformation22 Aug 202501:32:59

What happens when AI-driven workflows, tariff pressures, and shifting B2B buyer expectations collide?

In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton explore the trends redefining distribution: from AI co-pilots for sales and customer intelligence platforms to Fed rate cuts, tariff extensions, and the rise of Millennial and Gen Z buyers. You’ll learn why reframing CRM as a Customer Enablement Tool is critical, and how distributors can prepare for agentic AI, semantic clarity in marketing, and seismic shifts in buying behavior
.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ represents the next evolution of CRM for distributors
  • How to prepare for agentic AI workflows by aligning data and processes
  • The economic outlook from Jackson Hole: what interest rate cuts could mean for growth
  • Why tariff extensions create a window to future-proof supply chains
  • The new rules of B2B buying, 8.2 stakeholders, rep-free preferences, and the dominance of social proof


Episode Highlights:

04:10 – How LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ reframes CRM as a Customer Enablement Tool
13:45 – Breaking down Powell’s Jackson Hole speech and the debate over a 3% inflation target
24:05 – Tariffs hit the highest level since 1934—and what it means for supply chain resilience
33:28 – Why B2B lags behind B2C in adopting agentic AI workflows
44:12 – Build vs. buy: navigating low-code tools versus industry-specific platforms
55:40 – AI in the workplace: why 40% of employees admit to using banned tools
01:04:55 – How Millennials and Gen Z are reshaping B2B buying groups
01:20:25 – Closing reflections on resilience, innovation, and AI policy in distribution


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ – AI-enabled CRM + customer intelligence platform
  • AI Co-Pilot for Sales – positioning AI as a digital sales assistant
  • Hidden Revenue Detection – surfacing opportunities in ERP and eCommerce data
  • Future-Proofing Distribution – strategies for mitigating supply chain risk
  • Agentic AI Workflows – autonomous decision-making models for B2B processes


Closing Insight

“You can’t automate what you haven’t defined—data and workflows are the foundation of AI readiness.” – Tom Burton


Here's a link to the report we discussed - you can watch it on YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=t2ppETF4oUA&feature=youtu.be

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How To Mine The Treasures In Your Data30 Jun 202300:56:26

Where is the data kept in your business? Is it...all over the place? Then you're not alone, but a little clean-up would do your business good. Marketing automation software, ERP, CRM, data warehouses, are just some of the different place where your valuable data can be stored, but the importance of "clean data" and managing that data properly can mean the difference between success and failure in your wholesale distribution business - especially if you're looking to gain an advantage with AI. On today's episode, Kevin and Tom are joined by Kristen Kraai-Keely to discuss this important topic, as well as other important news of the week. 

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AI Regulation: Much Needed or Too Much Big Brother?24 Jun 202300:56:52

Six months after ChatGPT became an overnight success, The U.S. and the EU are racing to develop rules and draft laws to address both the benefits and risks of generative AI. At the same time, CNBC reports that Generative AI in supply chains will be able to forecast demand, predict when trucks need maintenance, and work out optimal shipping routes, virtually eliminating human touchpoints in the supply chain. So, is talk of regulation a good thing or oversight over-reach? This week, Kevin and Tom are joined by Mike Franz to discuss this topic and others in an informative conversation you won't want to miss. 

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B2B eComm Surprises and Buyers Using ChatGPT Oh Boy!16 Jun 202300:54:30

If you thought that wholesale distributors didn't need to concern themselves with ChatGPT and the whole AI phenomenon, think again. Buyers are using ChatGPT—even in their cars—to do research and price shopping. In this episode, Kevin and Tom look at this and other surprises in the eCommerce purchasing space. As nine out of 10 manufacturers intend to hike prices in the second half of this year, and only 67% of manufacturers are positive about their own company’s outlook, these are insights you won't want to miss!

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When Orders Rise (While Shipping Slows)09 Jun 202300:49:39

The effects of COVID are still taking their toll on wholesale distribution. The bad news? The maritime supply chain is beginning to break, with delays at processing terminals along the west coast. But the good news? Manufactured goods orders saw their 4th rise in 5 months. So how do wholesale distributors profit long term in an environment where buying is still strong, but delivery has issues? This week, Kevin and Tom are joined again by expert Tom May, and help provide insight to these questions and more. Is there a secret to "shoring up" and shortening the supply chain?

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Is AI A Business Or IT Function?02 Jun 202300:51:53

72% of respondents in a 225 U.S. executives survey recently conducted by KPMG said that generative AI could play an important role in increasing productivity.  So whose role is it: business divisions or IT? In this episode of Around The Horn, Kevin and Tom discuss how B2B marketers are hopeful about AI, and the reasons why some are even upbeat about the economy.  We also take a look at the sluggish adoption and implementation that is slowing down the digitalization of industrial production chains, as well as the growing number of CEOs that are starting to realize that cyberattacks are a bigger existential threat than economic uncertainty.

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The Yo-Yo Economy And What It Means For Wholesale Distribution26 May 202300:52:05

U.S. economic activity rose to a 13-month high in May, despite a cooldown in the manufacturing sector. How much of a cooldown? Container volumes slumped at ports on the East and West coasts, as some of the largest facilities saw year-over-year double-digit drops. It's a Yo-Yo economy, and if you're not planning for it, you could find your business on the bottom end of the string. On today's episode, Kevin and Tom examine the factors that lead up to this situation, and reveal how wholesale distributors can help prepare for "the ups and downs" of the B2B marketplace.


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Channel Conflicts: What You Need To Know To Support the B2B Buyer Journey19 May 202301:01:15

Confusion between distributors, dealers, and manufacturers can wreak havoc on the customer channel, costing you valuable business. On this week's episode, Kevin and Tom are joined by Brandon Lee to talk about how fixation on the customer experience is key to the success of your wholesale distribution model. In our continuing discussion on artificial intelligence in WD, we look at how Microsoft's research team argues that GPT-4 shows signs of human reasoning—a step toward AGI. It's another episode you won't want to miss to stay at the forefront of breaking news in wholesale distribution.

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Why It Matters If You're A Gen1 or Gen2 Manufacturer or Distributor12 May 202300:53:06

The future is here whether we like it or not: 73% of companies use generative AI tools to create text, images, videos, or other marketing content, while Forbes predicts that companies that can successfully leverage the opportunities offered by automation, artificial intelligence (AI), and other pillars of the “fourth industrial revolution” have everything to gain. Is "Gen2" too far ahead of Gen1? Join us as Kevin and Tom discuss these fascinating topics and more, and how your success in wholesale distribution may depend on adapting and adopting...fast.

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Buckle Up! The Digital Revolution In Wholesale Distribution World Is Here.06 May 202300:52:33

Artificial Intelligence negotiating price and purchasing terms? Industry 4.0 technologies creating immediately sustainable practices? Nearshoring, automation, and supplier diversification? It's not science fiction...it's the wholesale distribution environment of today. On this week's episode, Kevin and Tom take a look at how the digital world of WD is changing fast, and how you can not just stay on top of it, but profit from it!

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Are Distributors Growing Faster Than Manufacturers In eCommerce?29 Apr 202300:51:42

It may seem upside down, but it's the question that everyone is asking: are distributors growing faster than the manufacturers that supply their goods? In this episode, Kevin and Tom discuss the implications of this growing trend. In addition, we take a look at "Near Shoring" in the supply chain - the rising popularity of taking things from off-shore to on-shore - as well as the ever-changing profile of today's buyer. And do we discuss AI? It's the hot topic in wholesale distribution, and one of the hottest topics on the podcast!

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"How Can My Wholesale Distribution Strategy Keep Up With Tariff Changes?"15 Aug 202501:29:29

Is your CRM really driving revenue growth, or just storing notes no one reads?

In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, hosts Kevin Brown and Tom Burton pull back the curtain on how AI-enabled customer intelligence platforms like LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ are transforming sales enablement, workflow automation, and decision-making in distribution. 

You’ll hear fresh economic insights, a candid look at tariff strategy, and why agentic AI workflows could be the future of competitive advantage in B2B.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why redefining “CRM” as a Customer Enablement Tool changes adoption rates and sales results
  • How to prepare your organization for agentic AI workflows by codifying your processes
  • The economic signals driving the Fed’s next move and what that means for distributors
  • How tariff extensions create hidden opportunities for future-proofing distribution supply chains
  • Why AI policies are as important as HR policies in protecting your business


Episode Highlights:

  • 04:15 – Why Kevin thinks it’s time to rebrand CRM for the modern salesforce
  • 13:35 – Breaking down the PPI spike and its tariff-driven impact on inflation
  • 22:48 – The overlooked advantage of the U.S.–China tariff extension for supply chain planning
  • 33:12 – Agentic AI workflows: what they are and how B2B can catch up to B2C
  • 44:50 – Build vs. buy: deciding between low-code prototypes and industry-specific platforms
  • 55:19 – The silent AI adoption wave—why 40% of employees use banned tools at work
  • 01:04:38 – Balancing innovation with risk in AI implementation
  • 01:21:05 – Closing reflections and calls-to-action for distributors


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ – AI-enabled CRM + customer intelligence platform for distributors
  • Hidden Revenue Detection – uncovering untapped sales opportunities in ERP and eCommerce data
  • Customer Enablement Tool (CET) – reframing CRM as a proactive sales asset
  • Agentic AI Workflows – autonomous, decision-making processes powered by AI
  • Future-Proofing Distribution – strategies for mitigating supply chain and economic risks


Closing Insight:

“Data and workflows are the key readiness factors for adopting AI, you can’t automate what you haven’t defined.” – Tom Burton

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Buyers, Sellers, & The Times They Are a-Changin'22 Apr 202300:50:10

Revenues generated through Amazon Business have grown by 40% as its global customer base increased by 20% over the past two years. Meanwhile, McKinsey's research finds that 70% of B2B decision makers are prepared to spend up to $500,000 in a single ecommerce transaction. What does this mean for wholesale distribution? That the times are indeed a-changin'. Join Kevin and Tom as they make sense of the evolving buyer and seller landscape in this don't-miss episode!

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Why Customer Experience Is Essential to Growth14 Apr 202300:54:11

As a business owner or marketer, have you ever taken your own customer journey? Have you gone down the path your company developed from sale to fulfillment and beyond? In this episode, Kevin and Tom are joined by Marty McLaughlin, CMO of Affiliated Distributors, to discuss the importance of a smooth, enjoyable customer experience. What are the essential elements of a successful customer journey, and what does your company jeopardize without one? It's a fascinating conversation, and one you won't want to miss!

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Where the Cool Kids Meet!08 Apr 202300:52:53

This week, Kevin and Tom are joined by Brendan Breen to talk about the big shindig coming up: ISA23. The Industrial Supply Association's annual conference takes place April 17th to 19th in Phoenix - one of the biggest wholesale distribution conventions of the year. We preview the conference, talk about networking opportunities, and then discuss the week in WD news. See you at the 'con!

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Why Tech Strategy, Changing Buyers, and eCommerce Go Hand In Hand31 Mar 202300:51:03

New research revealed that most firms are struggling to effectively implement supply chain technology. This comes at a time when visual commerce technology is making its mark in B2B digital commerce, and brands face increased pressure to level up against competitors with a digital shelf strategy to help consumers easily find product pages. In this episode, Kevin and Tom discuss how tech strategy plays an increasingly important role in wholesale distribution, and why it's so important to stay on top of how changing buyer habits affect eCommerce. 

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The Changing Habits of B2B Buyers26 Mar 202300:43:57

B2B buyers are changing fast. Does it matter to wholesale distribution? In this episode, Kevin & Tom take a deeper look at the WD news of the week to analyze the changing habits of B2B buyers. These habits affect the supply chain, but the way distribution needs to look at their marketing plan. Don't miss this important and in-depth conversation!

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Blockchain and The Metaverse in Wholesale Distribution17 Mar 202300:48:17

It may sound like science fiction, but the future is now in wholesale distribution. On this week's episode, we talk with Tom May about enterprise-centered and customer-centered block chains in the supply chain, and the impact these have on WD. and is the metaverse at play in wholesale distribution? You bet it is, and our experts reveal why you need to stay ahead of the curve on this development if you're going to compete. Finally, we round out the episode with a look at the hot new topics in B2B, supply chain, and wholesale distribution.

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Millennials: The New Drivers Of Wholesale Distribution10 Mar 202300:55:33

Who is the Millennial buyer, and how are they driving wholesale distribution? On today's episode, Kevin and Tom are joined by special guest Pierre Barbeau, CEO of Moblico, to discuss how Millennials continue to drive current trends in WD.  Diving into the news, the team also discusses global supply chain strategies and challenges, the record drop of transportation prices (except in Southern California ), and lessons from eCommerce that can be applied to in-store customer experiences.

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TikTok In B2B? Who'd Have Thought?03 Mar 202300:55:09

As Millennial and Gen Z buyers make more demands for online B2B distribution, distributors and marketers alike are taking another look at TikTok. On today's episode, Kevin and Tom are joined by Brandon Lee, a Fractional Chief Transformation Officer and one of the top voices in "Social Selling." Together, they discuss the TikTok influence in wholesale distribution, along with ho companies are using data to optimize the manufacturing process. Finally, we give you 3 ways to give your company what it needs in 2023 to work smarter, not harder.

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Robots, Web3 and The MetaVerse in Wholesale Distribution24 Feb 202300:54:42

If you think Web3 and the Metaverse is something just for Gen Z, think again. Businesses hold face-to-face meetings remotely and virtually, and can don VR and AR headsets to train, visualize, and collaborate.  Several generations have become accustomed to digital interfaces, software and interactivity, and global connectivity. We immerse into the digital and increasingly draw it out across the physical world. In this episode, Kevin & Tom and their panel of WD thought leaders look at how the Metaverse will affect wholesale distribution, and how smart companies will take advantage of this exciting new technology.

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Doubling Down On Data!17 Feb 202300:42:55

Digital transactions, omnichannel sales, ChatGPT in wholesale distribution….we ain't seen nothing yet! In this episode, we're joined by Tom May, Will Quinn, and Brian Conley, who explain how the growth of digital sales is moving well beyond eCommerce. We also discuss how "Digital Brand Optimization" (DBO) may replace SEO as a new trend in the B2B marketplace. Finally, we wrap things up with a roundtable discussion on recent economic news and M&A activity in wholesale distribution.

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The Jobs Report Missed: Here’s What That Means for Distributors01 Aug 202501:27:02

When the U.S. jobs report is off by tens of thousands, what does that mean for leaders in wholesale distribution?

In this episode, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton break down the latest economic numbers—and why massive revisions to jobs data should concern every distributor, manufacturer, and revenue leader. Beyond the headlines, they explore how faulty metrics distort strategy, trigger bad decisions, and create pressure across supply chains and sales teams.

But it’s not just about problems. The hosts highlight how LeadSmart Channel Cloud™, AI-enabled CRM tools, and smart data integration can help revenue teams regain clarity, turning siloed information into real-time intelligence.

Whether you're navigating inflation, digital transformation, or demand forecasting, this episode explains how to lead with insight when the facts are fuzzy.

What’s the Real Risk When the Data Is Wrong?

Whether it’s a 70,000-job gap or a delayed Fed signal, inaccurate economic metrics can lead to:

  • Over-correcting on hiring and budgeting
  • Missed sales targets due to false confidence
  • Burnout and misalignment in leadership teams
  • Pressure across CRM, ERP, and marketing systems that aren’t integrated

Episode Highlights

  • 04:02 – The July jobs report: What the government got wrong
  • 11:15 – Why flawed data creates flawed decisions in distribution
  • 21:30 – Paladin and the danger of disconnected insights
  • 33:10 – How AI for Bob makes frontline sales smarter
  • 48:42 – CRM and ERP integration as an antidote to chaos
  • 59:55 – The rise of distributor newsletters as executive intelligence tools
  • 01:08:17 – When to trust your data—and when to override it
  • 01:18:50 – Final take: Use AI to see clearly when the markets can’t

Meet the Hosts

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are co-founders of LeadSmart Technologies, a company building intelligent CRM platforms for manufacturers, distributors, and sales agents. With decades of experience, they help B2B teams align systems, strategy, and leadership insight.

Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ – A CRM and customer intelligence platform for distribution
  • AI for Bob – A metaphor for practical AI co-pilots in B2B sales
  • Silo Elimination – Connecting CRM, ERP, and marketing for real-time clarity
  • Newsletter as Dashboard – Treating curated content as operational strategy fuel

Closing Insight

“If the signal’s broken, build your own dashboard—and make sure your team knows how to read it.”

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The Uncanny Growth Of The B2B Marketplace 10 Feb 202300:52:40

The B2B marketplace continues to explode in 2023, and getting in on the trend is critical for wholesale distributors. In this episode, Kevin and Tom are joined by Brendan Breen with the Industrial Supply Association, who discuss this trend as well as ChatGPT’s coming impact on CRM. We also talk about two important upcoming events: NAW (the National Association of Wholesalers annual event) and ISA23 in Phoenix. You don’t want to miss these insights! 

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2023? So Far, So Great!04 Feb 202300:45:46

 On the heels of a better-than-expected jobs report, 2023 is off to a great start. We’ll explain why manufacturers are planning on spending big this year, and why so many M&A deals are happening now. We also give our some Supply Chain predictions for the year, as well as the pros and cons related to manufacturers selling direct, and how this impacts their distributor relationships. 

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Is AI The Future of WD?04 Feb 202300:42:24

The emergence of artificial intelligence in our daily work life—especially in the form of ChatGPT—is causing a revolution in wholesale distribution. Will it end up replacing jobs or creating more of them? In this episode, Tom & Kevin reveal why this future should be embraced and not feared, and the important ways AI can be used to both increase WD efficiency and create new customer channels. 

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Gaining The Competitive Edge With Lee Richards02 Feb 202300:47:39

We are joined by Lee Richards, VP of Sales from The Brooks Group. Lee gives his unique perspective on this week’s news in wholesale distribution and discusses the latest in sales training and motivation techniques his company uses to give clients a competitive edge. Tom, Kevin, and Lee also discuss the enthusiasm they continue to see within wholesale distribution and how the layoffs in tech should not expand to WD. Tom leads a discussion of how company culture impacts growth, employee retention, and much more. 

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Layoff, Tech Stacks & Millennials, Oh My!02 Feb 202300:33:07

In our latest episode, we take a deep dive into the biggest headlines affecting wholesale distribution, including massive layoffs at Amazon and Salesforce. We also discuss the hazards of keeping data siloed within your organization, and how Millennials—which now make up half of all B2B purchasers—are changing the distribution game. Finally, we look at the importance of your Tech Stack, as well as a few growth predictions for 2023.

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Around the Horn Debuts!02 Feb 202301:00:45

On our debut podcast episode, we welcome Jennifer Murphy, President of NetPlus Alliance. Together, we look at what’s happening this week in wholesale distribution, then address a broad range of topics including utilizing the blockchain in wholesale distribution, the evolution of buying groups, and company branding through effective SEO and other techniques. We also look at the expansion of B2B e-Comm platforms and the evolution of Zorro as a B2B eCommerce platform, as well as how AI may help—or hinder—the future of CRM.


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How AI and Stablecoins Are Rewiring the Supply Chain Economy25 Jul 202501:23:04

Is your business ready for the AI economy, tariff turbulence, and the rapid rise of programmable payments?

In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, co-founders Kevin Brown and Tom Burton unpack the week's most pressing trends, from stablecoin legislation to humanoid robotics, from AI-fueled job disruption to smart supply chain control towers.

Perfect for manufacturers, distributors, and B2B leaders navigating the evolving intersection of tech, trade, and trust, this episode delivers strategic insights designed for an AI-first, policy-volatile, automation-driven market.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why the Trump AI Strategic Plan could be a game-changer for infrastructure and manufacturing

  • How Plaid-like smart data integration is informing the future of supply chain pricing and tariff management

  • Why stablecoins and the Genius Act may reinvent B2B invoicing and ERP workflows

  • How to build executive-ready marketing narratives in the age of agentic AI

  • What AI security, deepfakes, and robotic warehouse staff mean for your operational risk in 2025 and beyond


Episode Highlights:

05:10 – Why the Fed’s latest interest rate signals matter to distributors
12:42 – The Trump AI Plan and how it could power U.S. supply chain reinvention
28:04 – How MDM’s “Tariff Control Tower” could future-proof your pricing strategy
35:19 – Storytelling in B2B marketing: selling outcomes, not features
42:51 – The growing role of application-specific reviews in AI-first marketing funnels
59:03 – Why stablecoins and programmable money will change B2B payment models
01:07:25 – Are AI risks bigger than ransomware? What CISOs say now
01:14:48 – How AI is subtly changing the way we speak and lead


👤 Meet the Hosts:

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are co-founders of LeadSmart Technologies, a RevOps CRM platform designed for manufacturers, distributors, and independent sales reps. Together, they host Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, a podcast that translates tech disruption into operational strategy for industrial B2B leaders.


Tools, Frameworks, and Models Mentioned

  • MDM’s “Tariff Control Tower” Model

  • Agentic AI and revenue department integration

  • The Genius Act (U.S. Stablecoin Legislation)

  • AI Risk Profiles: Ransomware vs. Generative Misuse

  • HVAC/Electrical demand surge forecast (post-tariff and AI infrastructure boom)


Closing InsightL

“This is ACH 2.0, faster, cheaper, and built for modern logistics.”
 From AI infrastructure planning to programmable payments and robotic labor, the future of distribution isn’t just digital, it’s autonomous, semantic, and strategic.

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Why B2B Buyers Want Sales Reps, Just Not All the Time18 Jul 202501:33:21

What happens when data-driven decision-making meets the chaos of tariffs, AI disruption, and a retiring workforce?

In this episode, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton sit down with Mark Gilham of Enable to unpack the big shifts impacting manufacturers, distributors, and the global supply chain.

From trade policy to pricing strategy, sales transformation to skilled labor shortages, this wide-ranging episode explores how wholesale leaders can future-proof their organizations using AI-enabled tools, smarter rebate programs, and cross-functional data insights, all while staying resilient in an evolving economy.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why most distributors are absorbing, not passing on, the full impact of tariffs

  • How intelligent rebate management creates agility in pricing without damaging trust

  • The rising importance of contextual data and why Ralph the “institutional memory” employee matters more than ever

  • Why skilled labor shortages may delay reshoring and how automation both helps and complicates this

  • What B2B buyers really want from your sales team


Episode Highlights:

  • 03:22 – How the podcast was born from a LinkedIn Live experiment
  • 12:41 – Mark Gilham on why clean rebate data changed everything
  • 25:07 – Are tariffs really driving up prices? A look beneath the macro data
  • 33:50 – Why “Ralph” is the key to contextualizing data for AI systems
  • 46:18 – Robots vs. the trades: The future of skilled labor in reshoring
  • 1:06:02 – How to evolve your brand value and CRM strategy for B2B buyers
  • 1:19:33 – Change management as the #1 success lever in digital adoption


👤 Meet the Guest:

A former distributor turned Enable evangelist, Mark Gilham specializes in helping manufacturers and distributors turn their rebate strategies into competitive advantages. With firsthand experience in data transformation, Mark brings deep expertise in pricing dynamics, supplier relations, and industry resilience.


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • Enable: Cloud-based rebate management and collaboration platform

  • LeadSmart Technologies: AI-enabled smart CRM for wholesale distribution

  • The Ralph Framework: A metaphor for preserving institutional knowledge through AI and CRM

  • The JOLT Effect (Matt Dixon): A framework for overcoming customer indecision in B2B sales


Closing Insight & CTA:

“Data without context is noise. But with Ralph’s insights? It becomes a strategy.”

This episode is a reminder that the future of wholesale distribution lies at the intersection of data fluency, adaptable tech stacks, and empathy-driven sales. If you're navigating economic uncertainty, evolving buyer behavior, or the AI transformation of your workforce, this is yo

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From Interest Rates to Cyber Risk: What Distribution Leaders Must Know11 Jul 202501:26:13

What do tariffs, AI adoption, and digital readiness have in common? They’re all reshaping the future of wholesale distribution.

In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, hosts Kevin Brown and Tom Burton unpack the forces shaping the industry from rising cybersecurity threats to the real reason distributors aren’t seeing results from generative AI tools.

This episode blends actionable economic insights with digital transformation strategy and is a must-listen for Revenue Leaders in Distribution preparing for what's next.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why small interest rate changes have massive implications for national debt and distributor margins
  • The hidden danger of weak cybersecurity hygiene in mid-size distributors
  • What’s actually holding companies back from successful AI implementation (hint: it’s not the tools)
  • How Smart CRM and Sales Co-Pilot platforms help future-proof sales organizations
  • Why Collaborative Planning & Forecasting (CPFR) is a strategic advantage in uncertain times


Episode Highlights:

05:20 – What the Fed’s hesitation on rate cuts means for distributors
12:45 – How tariffs are being used as economic leverage, not just punishment
22:10 – Why reshoring is gaining momentum in wholesale distribution
35:08 – The untold reasons AI is stalling in sales organizations
45:50 – How today's B2B buyers behave before they ever speak to sales
57:30 – Aligning AI tools with workflow clarity and CRM data hygiene
01:08:15 – Cybersecurity risks for mid-size distributors: real threats and blind spots
01:17:40 – Future-proofing your strategy with AI, succession readiness & smarter sales planning


👥 Meet the Hosts:

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are veteran analysts, strategists, and distribution-tech experts, bringing real-world insights from the front lines of ERP, CRM, AI, and supply chain transformation. Co-creators of the LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ platform, they help distribution teams leverage modern tools without losing the human touch.


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™
  • AI Co-Pilot for Sales
  • Digital Readiness for Succession
  • CRM-ERP Integration
  • Hidden Revenue Detection

Closing Insight:

“It’s not about replacing your sales team with AI, it’s about replacing the parts of your process that don’t scale.” – Kevin Brown


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How Distributors Can Win in a Soft Landing Economy, with Taylor St. Germain30 Jun 202501:33:16

What if the economic slowdown didn’t spell disaster—but a window of opportunity?

 In this episode, Senior Economist Taylor St. Germain of ITR Economics joins the show to unpack what a “soft landing” really means for distributors—and how to strategically navigate uncertainty, inflation moderation, and shifting customer demand without panic or paralysis. 

If you're a distributor wondering how to protect margins, forecast accurately, or align your strategy to economic signals, this conversation is packed with actionable insight tailored for leaders in the wholesale space.  

🔍 What You’ll Learn: 

  • Why 2024–2025 may be a soft landing—not a crash—and what that means for your business
  • How inflation, interest rates, and consumer spending are shifting—and how distributors can adapt
  • Leading vs. lagging indicators: how to stop planning based on outdated economic signals
  • How forward-looking distributors are adjusting pricing, inventory, and headcount strategy
  • Why leadership mindset and clear communication are more valuable than ever in economic slowdowns

Episode Chapters & Highlights:

03:15 – What “soft landing” really means—and how it’s playing out in distribution
 11:42 – The disconnect between media headlines and actual economic indicators
 19:26 – How to read the signals: leading vs. lagging indicators for strategic planning
 26:50 – Inflation, interest rates, and what they’re signaling for 2025
 34:18 – Demand shifts in construction, manufacturing, and wholesale sectors
 41:07 – How to protect margins during volume declines
 49:36 – Common missteps distributors make in an economic slowdown
 58:03 – Forecasting beyond fear: how to align your data with your long-term strategy
 1:05:45 – Communication tactics for leaders navigating uncertainty
 1:13:32 – What ITR’s forecast models say about timing your growth decisions
 1:21:08 – How distributor mindset and agility shape outcomes in uncertain economies
 1:30:05 – Taylor’s closing advice: clarity beats reaction every time
 
🎙️ Meet the Guest

Taylor St. Germain is a Senior Economist at ITR Economics, where he helps industrial leaders decode market trends and make confident, data-informed decisions. His work supports strategic planning, risk mitigation, and long-term forecasting across manufacturing, distribution, and B2B sectors.

🛠️ Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • Leading Indicator Forecasting Models (ITR Economics)
  • Inflation and Interest Rate Trend Mapping
  • Counter-cyclical inventory and pricing strategies
  • Strategic forecasting for demand cycles

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The New B2B Revolution: AI, Segmentation, and The Hidden Revenue Model20 Jun 202501:25:50

How will distributors thrive in the age of digital transformation, AI disruption, and customer experience redefinition?

In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, Ian Heller sits down with John Gunderson and Kevin to unpack the seismic shifts reshaping B2B sales strategy, channel alignment, and customer segmentation.

With insightful commentary and bold predictions, the team explores the future of CRM-ERP integration, why distributors must evolve beyond legacy thinking, and how AI-powered selling is no longer optional; it’s inevitable.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why many distributors are trapped in the “inside-out” mindset—and how to flip it for real growth
  • The biggest blind spot in traditional CRM strategy (and how AI Co-Pilots are changing that)
  • How top-performing distributors use segmentation and persona-based selling to drive hidden revenue
  • What manufacturers really want in channel partnerships today
  • Practical frameworks for modernizing your sales org—without losing your human touch

Episode Highlights:

04:29 – The role of entertainment and personality in B2B podcasting
12:17 – Why segmentation is the missing link in most distributor sales strategies
23:40 – How “AI Co-Pilots” reshape the sales conversation
31:05 – A behind-the-scenes look at channel misalignment and how to fix it
41:18 – The value of CRM-ERP integration for surfacing hidden revenue
52:44 – Persona-based selling: what it is and why it matters
59:59 – A human-centric view of sales automation
1:08:22 – Predictions on the next phase of distributor evolution

Meet the Guest:

John Gunderson is VP of Sales at Distribution Strategy Group and a veteran advisor to the wholesale distribution industry. With deep expertise in sales strategy, segmentation, and manufacturer-distributor alignment, John brings pragmatic insight to the digital transformation conversation.

Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • AI Co-Pilot for Sales
  • CRM-ERP Integration
  • Hidden Revenue Detection
  • Persona-Based Segmentation
  • Sales Automation Without Losing the Human Touch

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Text-to-Order, GenAI Roles, and AI Scams: Inside the Future of B2B Distribution13 Jun 202501:30:43

How are global supply chains bouncing back amid recession fears, and what role does generative AI play in rewriting the future of B2B sales, marketing, and cybersecurity? 

In Episode 146 of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, hosts Kevin Brown and Tom Burton of LeadSmart Technologies unpack the economic shifts, digital commerce trends, and AI-infused transformations shaping the future of manufacturing and distribution. From tariffs and freight to text-based orders and AI-powered scams, this episode is a must-listen for professionals navigating wholesale disruption and digital acceleration.  

What You’ll Learn 

  • Why 65% of industrial buyers are ordering online—and how device-agnostic tools like text-to-order are reshaping customer expectations
  • What’s driving the GenAI talent revolution across sales and marketing, including five emerging AI roles every organization needs
  • How global trade, port activity, and tariffs signal freight resurgence—despite economic “fog”
  • Which cybersecurity threats are powered by generative AI, and what you can do to defend your team
  • How Gen Z is transforming the workforce, demanding flexibility, autonomy, and technology-native experiences

Meet the Hosts

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are co-founders of LeadSmart Technologies, creators of the Customer Intelligence Platform that helps modern distributors and manufacturers surface hidden revenue, automate sales workflows, and power smart CRM transformation.

Tools, Frameworks, and Strategies Mentioned

  • LeadSmart’s Customer Intelligence Platform
  • ChannelCloud: Unified sales and marketing stack for distributors
  • Smart CRM: AI-powered customer engagement tracking
  • Genius Feed: Real-time insights delivery across teams
  • Human-Centric Sales AI: Automation without losing the human touch

Closing Insight & CTA
 

“You can’t wait for clarity to lead—you have to build visibility into your systems.”


To explore how LeadSmart Technologies can help your team discover hidden revenue and drive sales automation with empathy, visit LeadSmartTech.com and subscribe to the Around the Horn newsletter.

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More Rate Cuts, More Robots, More AI: What Distributors Need To Know07 Nov 202501:30:03

What do rate cuts, tariffs, and the rise of agentic AI mean for the future of wholesale distribution?

In this episode, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton dissect the week’s biggest economic shifts, from the Federal Reserve’s policy moves to AI’s rapid integration across manufacturing, logistics, and B2B commerce. Learn how forward-thinking distributors are preparing for 2026, where automation meets leadership and contextual intelligence defines competitive advantage.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Why AI literacy and contextual intelligence are essential leadership skills in 2025
  • How tariffs, prediction markets, and Fed rate cuts are shaping industrial investment
  • The emerging impact of agentic commerce on B2B buying behavior
  • The business risks of ungoverned generative AI in enterprise settings
  • How distributors can balance data automation with human trust in decision-making


Episode Highlights:

  • 04:18 – How the U.S. government shutdown is influencing the Fed’s economic playbook
  • 18:32 – What the latest rate cuts reveal about manufacturing, inflation, and capital investment
  • 33:27 – Tariffs, Supreme Court delays, and the uncertain trade horizon for distributors
  • 51:08 – The “AI slop” problem: when generative tools create risk instead of efficiency
  • 01:04:22 – Amazon and PayPal move toward agentic commerce, what B2B can learn
  • 01:14:10 – The rise of humanoid robotics and physical AI in supply chain operations
  • 01:26:55 – Why courage and clarity will define the next generation of distribution leaders


Meet the Hosts:

Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are the co-founders of LeadSmart Technologies, creators of LeadSmart Channel Cloud™, an AI-enabled CRM and customer intelligence platform for distributors and manufacturers. With decades of combined experience in digital transformation, leadership strategy, and industrial data systems, they help B2B leaders thrive in the age of AI-driven distribution.


Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:

  • LeadSmart Channel Cloud™ – AI-powered CRM + Customer Intelligence for distribution
  • Agentic Commerce – The next evolution of AI-driven transactional systems
  • Context Engineering – Framework for aligning AI with business intent
  • Industrial Supply Association (ISA) – Leadership development and AI fluency initiatives
  • Section 232 & 301 Tariff Mechanisms – Understanding how U.S. trade rules impact sourcing


Closing Insight or CTA:

“AI doesn’t replace relationships, it reinforces them by removing friction.” — Kevin Brown

As AI redefines how businesses operate, leadership must evolve alongside it.

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Tariffs, Humanoid Robots and AI in Distribution with guest Max Miester (Live from Germany!)06 Jun 202501:30:43

What happens when a fourth-generation industrial distributor embraces digital transformation? 

In this episode, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton are joined by Max Meister of Ludwig Meister GmbH to explore what it really takes to modernize sales, systems, and mindsets in a legacy-driven industry. 

From CRM reimagination to cultural adoption strategies, this episode is a masterclass in building a future-ready distribution business without losing your human edge.  

What You’ll Learn 

  • Why CRM adoption strategies often fail—and how to fix them
  • How to turn your CRM into an AI sales co-pilot that delivers real value
  • What European distributors can teach U.S. businesses about sustainable innovation
  • How to balance sales automation with human connection
  • The role of CRM-ERP integration in uncovering hidden revenue opportunities

 
Episode Highlights

  • 04:10 – Why European distributors struggle to embrace digital transformation
  • 09:25 – Max Meister on building cultural readiness for CRM adoption
  • 14:45 – How Ludwig Meister approached CRM-ERP integration for real sales insights
  • 21:30 – Why most CRM platforms fail frontline reps—and how to fix it
  • 28:05 – Moving from sales reporting to revenue intelligence with smart systems
  • 34:50 – Using AI as a true co-pilot: automating insight, not just workflow
  • 41:15 – The role of trust and emotion in tech adoption across generations
  • 48:00 – Balancing tradition with innovation in long-standing businesses
  • 56:30 – Sustainable innovation: What U.S. distributors can learn from the EU model
  • 1:03:15 – Real-world tactics for increasing CRM adoption and frontline usage
  • 1:11:40 – Future-proofing sales teams through digital confidence, not pressure
  • 1:21:00 – Final insights: Why your CRM should feel like your smartest teammate


 Meet the Guest

Max Meister is the Managing Director of Ludwig Meister GmbH, a century-old German distribution company that has become a model for smart digital transformation in the industrial sector.

Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned

  • CRM Reimagined – CRM as a real-time assistant, not a reporting tool
  • Sales Co-Pilot Model – Using AI for next-best-action guidance
  • Data-Driven Adoption Framework – Cultural change meets system value

Closing Insight

“Digital transformation doesn’t succeed because of software—it succeeds because people trust it will help them sell better.”


Adoption isn’t about compliance—it’s about confidence. If you want to future-proof your sales team, start by making your systems indispensable.

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