In part one of this compelling two-part episode of the Animal Training Academy podcast, we are honored to welcome Sarah Fisher, a renowned canine and equine behavior advisor, educator, and co-founder of Animal Centred Education (ACE). With nearly 30 years of experience working with animals, Sarah has dedicated her career to helping trainers, caregivers, and behavior professionals develop a deeper understanding of their animal learners.

In this first part of our conversation, Sarah takes us on a heartfelt journey through her formative years and the pivotal moments that shaped her approach to animal training. She shares insights into how childhood experiences, personal loss, and human therapeutic studies influenced her philosophy on animal welfare, behavior, and communication. We also explore the foundation of ACE, the power of Free Work, and the importance of allowing dogs to pilot their own learning experiences.

🐾 Sarah’s early experiences with animals and the lessons she learned from her upbringing.
🐾 The emotional and behavioral connections between animals and humans.
🐾 How human bodywork and therapeutic studies shaped Sarah’s approach to working with animals.
🐾 The story behind Tilly Farm and how it became a hub for ACE education.
🐾 The principles of ACE Free Work and why it’s transforming the lives of dogs and their caregivers.

Sarah’s deeply personal journey, combined with her expertise in behavior and animal welfare, offers invaluable insights for trainers, behaviorists, and anyone passionate about improving the well-being of animals.

Subscribe to the podcast, share this episode with fellow trainers and animal enthusiasts, and join our vibrant community to explore science-based, ethical training approaches.

LINKS;

• Tilly Farm Website
• ACE [Animal Centered Education]

In this episode of the Animal Training Academy Podcast, Ryan Cartlidge welcomes back Chris Jenkins, Chief Operating Officer of Natural Encounters, Inc. (NEI). Chris has spent decades in the field of animal training and behavior management, working with zoos, theme parks, and professional organizations worldwide. As a leader in animal training education, he has played a crucial role in shaping NEI’s training programs, consulting with organizations to improve animal welfare, staff training, and guest experience.

Chris shares his insights on leadership, professional growth, and how behavior change plays a fundamental role in moving organizations forward. He discusses his experiences developing NEI’s training initiatives, the evolution of their educational programs, and the challenges of fostering a culture of continuous learning. Listeners will hear Chris reflect on lessons learned from running NEI’s "TEC Talk" podcast and how sharing knowledge has shaped his own professional journey.

• The evolution of NEI’s training and education initiatives, including the creation of NEI TEC.
• How behavior science principles apply to leadership and organizational development.
• Insights into navigating change and overcoming resistance within organizations.
• The importance of mentorship and fostering a culture of professional development.
• Lessons learned from years of podcasting and sharing industry knowledge.

Chris brings a wealth of experience from the animal training industry, offering practical strategies for professionals looking to make an impact in their field. Whether you're an animal trainer, educator, or leader striving to create meaningful change in your organization, this episode provides valuable insights on growth, leadership, and the power of behavior-based decision-making.

Links;

• IAATE [International Association of Avian Trainers & Educators]
• AZA [Associatin of Zoo's & Aquariums]
• AMBA [Animal Behaviour Management Alliance]
• NEI [Natural Encounters Incorporated]
• NEI TEC [Natrual Encounters - Training & Education Center]

In this fun two-part episode of the Animal Training Academy podcast, we sit down with Simone Mueller, MA, a certified dog trainer and behavior consultant from Germany. Simone specializes in force-free anti-predation training and is the acclaimed author of the Predation Substitute Training series. In this first part of our conversation, Simone shares her journey from being a high school teacher to becoming a leading expert in anti-predation training. We dive deep into her early experiences with her dog, Malinka, whose high prey drive sparked Simone’s interest in positive reinforcement training methods.

Listeners will gain insight into Simone’s innovative approach to training, the challenges she faced in developing effective, humane methods for managing predatory behavior, and the unique training culture in Germany. Simone also discusses the significance of the e-collar ban in Germany and how it influenced the evolution of dog training practices in the country.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Simone's transition from high school teaching to professional dog training.
• The development of her Predation Substitute Training methods and the challenges she encountered along the way.
• Insight into the training culture in Germany and the impact of the e-collar ban on dog training practices.
• The importance of structured training plans for managing high prey drive in dogs.

Why This Episode is a Must-Listen: Simone Mueller’s expertise offers invaluable insights for dog trainers, behaviorists, and dog owners dealing with high prey drive dogs. Her experience and dedication to force-free training provide a fresh perspective on managing predatory behavior in a humane and effective way. This episode is perfect for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of positive reinforcement training and the nuances of behavior modification.

Engage With Us: We invite you to subscribe to our podcast, share this episode with fellow animal enthusiasts, and join our community for ongoing discussions on ethical training practices and animal care.

Follow Simone’s work on Facebook and Instagram: 

• https://www.instagram.com/predation_substitute_training/
• https://www.facebook.com/predationsubstitutetraining

Learn more: http://www.predation-substitute-training.com

Bonus Code:

• Link to the Predation Substitute Training Master Course “Call off the Chase”: https://predation-substitute-training.com/call-off-the-chase/
• Save 150 € using the code PST150

In this engaging follow-up conversation with Erin Jones, an independent scholar and educator, we dive into the core themes of her latest book, Constructing Canine Consent. Erin, an expert in the ethical dimensions of the dog-human relationship, shares the top five aspects she hopes will spark curiosity in readers of her book. This episode offers a deeper look into the critical questions and ideas that Erin believes are essential for anyone interested in understanding and improving their relationship with dogs.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• The significance of canine consent in training and everyday interactions.
• How understanding the ethical implications of the dog-human relationship can lead to better communication and trust.
• The role of curiosity in questioning traditional dog training practices.
• Why it's important to explore the psychological and anthropological aspects of human-animal interactions.
• How Erin's interdisciplinary approach can inspire a more thoughtful and informed perspective on dog behavior and care.

Why This Episode Is a Must-Listen: This episode is a must-listen for readers of Constructing Canine Consent and anyone interested in deepening their understanding of the ethical considerations in dog training. Erin Jones’ insights will challenge you to think critically about the way you interact with dogs and encourage you to explore new ideas and perspectives.

Engage With Us: We invite you to subscribe to our podcast, share this episode with fellow animal enthusiasts, and join our community for further discussions on ethical dog training and behavior. Your thoughts and experiences are always appreciated as we continue to explore the best practices in canine care.

• 1.20 – Ryan introduces Adele Shaw and her bio that is driven by her passion for horses.
• 3.22 - Adele thanks Ryan and they discuss the challenges that occurred at the start of 2020.
• 6.00 – Ryan aske Adele to take us back to where she first started her journey with positive reinforcement training.
• 11.55 – Adele explains the particular problems that she experienced with the horse she was training.
• 19.50 – Ryan asks if Adele is influenced by the local horse community in Texas and the thoughts on her using clicker training.
• 25.00 – Adele discusses the courage, bravery and her learning process that was required to make the change in her training methods.
• 32.10 – Ryan asks if she sees a difference in herself and how she views herself in the process. Adele details how she is now less goal orientated in tasks and the evolution and stages that she has worked through in her learning.
• 39.00 – Adele discusses what she learnt from understanding her growth mindset, looking into choice and control, and the experience of studying with Susan Freidman on the LLA course.
• 43.20 – Adele unpacks what she means by terrifying for her when she is using and learning new information and skills.
• 48.30 – Ryan asks if Adele teaches her mindset to others and how she goes about this.
• 53.25 – Adele discusses that she needed all of her experiences to be where she is now, including any experience of failures that have taken place.
• 1.11.10 – Ryan and Adele wrap up with explaining that the human learner needs to be in the growth mindset to explore all opportunities.

• 4:25 - Sean discusses brave learning and how it has enabled him to be resilient through many challenges
• 9:00 - Sean explains how his desire to learn developed with direct feedback and reinforcement, and how he learnt the difference between education and learning.
• 13:30 - Sean describes his first experience of using a clicker and his first step into the world of using Tag teaching and the support and the exploration into help teaching his daughter.
• 20:40 - Sean explains more regarding the genetic conditions of his daughter and the impact on her learning.
• 25:30 - After Sean reached out to Martha at Tag Teach and Joan Orr he began looking for small behaviours that he could reinforce that her daughter was able to do and how ‘touch’ became the foundation behaviour skill for all other learning.
• 31:50 - Sean describes how he realised at the time that he had not previously been able to see the tiny behaviours that his daughter, Erin, was offering as functional behaviours. Sean explains how his daughter became his great teacher through the tag teach process.
• 38:00 - Ryan asks further about the contingencies relating to the process of shaping behaviours and Sean explains the importance of the tactile reinforcement for Erin.
• 42:30 - Sean briefly explains the process of teaching Erin to learn to accept the process of a blood test.
• 44:30 - Sean explains how he began to try to find out a way to help Erin to learn to walk and the processes and tag points that he worked through with Erin to build the balance to be able to start to prepare for learning to walk.
• 1:00:00 - Sean explains how he has had to fight, even if he doesn’t want to, to be able to provide his daughter with her own control and choices and to provide her with her personal rights, including recently winning the fight for funding for a TagTeach program to be able to continue to teach her.

• 4:40 - Ryan asks Amy to take us back to when she started with training with positive reinforcement.
• 9:30 - Ryan and Amy discuss her PhD further and the questions that were raised through her PhD and how her research resulted in studying and researching studies involving children.
• 15:40 - Amy explains that the approach at UC Berkeley was focused around cognition rather than psychology and asking cognitive questions rather than focussing on ethology and behaviour. She details how the questions we ask about dogs tend to mirror the questions that we ask about children.
• 32:20 - Amy Cook explains how she started working with Denise at the Fenzi Dog Sports Academy and expands how play became an important part in her thoughts.
• 42:00 - Amy describes play as a therapy for the animal.
• 45:30 - Amy explains how having a low value play interaction allows us to see when they ‘can’t’ respond.
• 49:35 - Amy highlights using play in a set up and starting it in the environment when a dog is under threshold with a detailed example.
• 56:20 - Amy explains how using ‘theraplay’ and social play can be used as an early warning system, to indicate the low levels of stress the dog may be exhibiting in an environment.
• 58:30 - Ryan discusses with Amy an article regarding The Play Way written in the Whole Dog Journal.
• 1:05:50 - Ryan and Amy encapsulate the overall principle to training with the play way.

• 4:30 - Veronica shares the experience of her first dog and the training journey through different dog schools until she was able to find one to help her with her reactive dog.
• 10:00 - Veronica explains how she became sick with the neurological condition Generalized Dystonia and her life came to a halt.
• 12:20 - Veronica explains how she became interested in the Service Dog industry which led to the decision to open her business Co-operative Paws
• 15:00 - Veronica realised the need to bridge the gap between the Service Industry and the pet dog owners that needed professional guidance to train their dogs appropriately.
• 16:40 - Ryan thanks Veronica for bravely sharing her experience with a life changing disease and Veronica shares how it has helped her understanding of the requirements with the human part of training service dogs.
• 25:20 - Ryan asks if Veronica’s early approach to seek out and try something different helped her with her illness.
• 28:00 - Veronica explains how she got the Service Dog Coach Certification program up and running and what was involved.
• 35:00 - Veronica explains how her work changes constantly, and incorporates the support she gives to students, the development of courses, the work involved in training of her dogs, and the marketing aspect required.
• 39:40 - Ryan asks Veronica why it is important that we have science based trainers in the service training industry.
• 43:30 - How a trainer might get started in offering service dog training and what is involved.
• 51:30 - Veronica discusses further about point 4, and in particular how she handles the intake and plans for addressing the initial cases.
• 55:50 - Ryan asks Veronica if there are any particular resources that she shares with people looking for information.
• 56:50 - What are the next steps and expectations if a trainer wants to get involved with the certification process.
• 59:00 - Ryan asks his final question and asks Veronica to take us into the future and what she would love to see happen in the next 5-10 years.

• 6:28 – Shelly asks Ryan his first question and asks him about his life outside of the animal training world and how it has influenced his work and vice versa.
• 13:23 – Ryan discusses the four books that have greatly influenced his world and including his daily life and his animal training career.
  • How to win Friends and Influence People.
  • Crucial Conversations
  • Growth Mindset
  • First things First
• 25:51 –  Shelly asks Ryan to share with us a recent training related challenge that he has experienced, how he worked through the challenge and what he has learnt from the experience.
• 39:33 – Shelly asks Ryan to share a story about a behaviour that he has trained or a training situation that he is proud of experiencing. Ryan details the process and that he had with Reg and how the relationship developed through the journey.
• 46:43 – Ryan shares a second story regarding the goose ‘Security’ that was able to free room around the park.
• 56:17 – Ryan shares a recent example with his training with Fibi and why he was training that particular skill in that particular way. He discusses how we may be able to look at many different ways of getting to a specific goal but each one may develop a different type of learning experience.

• 3:10 - Ryan asks Erica if she can take the listeners back to the first time she heard about animal training.
• 15:20 - Erica discusses how her curiosity developed from a young age.
• 17:30 - Ryan asks Erica about how she discusses statements from others that may not have any scientific data supporting them - The two questions Erica would love people to ask!
• 21:05 - Ryan asks Erica what she is doing in 2020 and where the listeners can find out more about her.
• 24:30 - Talking about shelter dogs & Eric’s current research.
• 31:25 - Ryan asks Erica to take us through a journey through her research projects.
• 35:00 - Erica unpacks what she means by ‘having fun with the system’ for the dog trainer at home.
• 40:10 - Erica uses an example to help explain how to know if your making progress.
• 42:20 - Ryan and Erica discuss breaking aims down into bite sized goals and approximations.
• 44:15 - Ryan asks - If we are setting approximations, how does Erica decide what to do next?
• 46:45 - Ryan highlights and discusses a phrase that Erica raises “if your worries are changing then you are making progress”
• 48:47 - Erica talks about some of the results of her research regarding the magnitude of food in training
• 55.55 - Erica discusses one of her studies where they look at if access to the owner is a reinforcement.
• 59:00 – Erica takes us into the future and explains what she would like to see happen in the next 5-10 years in the world of animal training.

• 3:00 - Trish shares where she began her positive reinforcement animal training journey.
• 7:00 - Trish explains how she started working in a shelter environment, how it led to working with the San Francisco’s SPCA and developed into the opportunity to work towards achieving a Master’s Degree in Animal Behaviour.
• 11:00 - Trish and Ryan discuss the opportunity Trish created to speak with Dr Sophia Yin and the early training Trish dog with her Dalmatian.
• 12:30 - Ryan asks more about Trish’s experience when she wanted to adopt her first dog from a shelter.
• 13:00 - Trish explains her ‘No 1’ take home lesson that she shares with all her new clients
• 16:15 - Trish and Ryan discuss Stanley Milgram’s’ study on the “Obedience to Authority” and the effects this can have on our behaviour.
• 19:30 - Ryan asks Trish about her experience with her more challenging foster dogs that she & how it helped her understand some of the hard decisions she has to make
• 24:40 - Ryan asks Trish what mindset and experiences would be of value for trainers that are looking to enter a shelter environment to expand their skills and knowledge.
• 30:00 - Trish explains how she has become a co-founder of a grief support group with Sue Alexander to help people who have had to euthanise their pets on behaviour grounds.
• 35:00 - Ryan asks Trish to expand on her 5 main thoughts on what will help to improve shelters become more successful fin 2020 and beyond.
• 46:20 - Ryan asks Trish about neglect cases and how to help people care better for their dogs.
• 49:30 - Ryan and Trish discuss further the concept of ‘start with yes’ when discussing animal adoptions and how to address neglect, animal hoarding and cruelty situations.
• 52:00 - Ryan asks Trish about the concepts of shifting some of the paradigms that are linked around the shelter adoption processes and concepts.
• 57:45 - Ryan asks Trish if she has any tips on helping people bring ideas into the shelters that they may already be helping and where to find useful resources.
• 1:00:15 - Trish shares her final point on what she thinks we will see happen in the next 5-10 years in the shelter world.

In this enlightening episode of the Animal Training Academy podcast, we sit down with Erin Jones, an independent scholar, author, and certified dog behavior consultant with a PhD in Human-Animal Studies. Erin shares her fascinating journey, from her early days in horse show jumping to her work in aquariums, and ultimately, to her current research on the ethical dimensions of the dog-human relationship. We explore Erin's transition into dog behavior consulting, her academic pursuits, and her groundbreaking work on canine consent.

Listeners will gain insight into Erin's experiences working with various animals, from California sea lions to African penguins, and her profound reflections on animal liberation and the role of ethics in animal training. Erin delves deep into the idea of human exceptionalism, discussing how this mindset affects our relationships with dogs, as well as the nuances of providing consent and agency to our animal companions.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• Erin’s unique career path from aquariums to dog behavior consultancy and her thoughts on animal ethics.
• The importance of understanding the concept of canine consent and how it can positively impact training and behavior modification.
• Erin’s reflections on human exceptionalism and its implications for the treatment of animals in various contexts.
• Her personal stories about working with highly fearful dogs and how she incorporated principles of consent to help them thrive.

Why This Episode is a Must-Listen:

Erin Jones’ expertise and thought-provoking perspective on the ethical treatment of animals offer valuable insights for trainers, behaviorists, and anyone interested in the deeper moral questions surrounding human-animal relationships. This episode challenges conventional thinking and provides a fresh lens through which to view animal training and welfare.

Engage With Us:

We invite you to subscribe to our podcast, share this episode with fellow animal enthusiasts, and join our community for ongoing discussions on ethical training practices and animal care.

Links:

• www.meritdogproject.com. 
• Follow along on Facebook @MeritDog

Book sales:

• US: Amazon
• Canada: Amazon
• Australia/NZ: Amazon
• UK: Amazon
• Global: Routledge
• Dogwise: Dogwise

• 1:20 - Ryan introduces Sonya Bevan
• 4:00 - Sonya takes Ryan and the listeners back to where she first learned about positive reinforcement training and the journey from a career in being a physio to a behaviour consultant and dog trainer.
• 19:10 - Ryan asks how Sonya’s background in physio has helped her in her new profession.
• 20:20 - Sonya explains the assessment process she uses in her dog training and behaviour consultants.
• 24:15 - Ryan is curious if Sonya has a process for data collection and asks her for thoughts on helping people review their own processes for improving data collection.
• 28:10 - Ryan asks Sonya about her free video series.
• 29:20 - Sonya describes what she has learnt through the period of building the video library with her dog Zuri and how being courageous and sharing her mistakes has helped others train too.
• 32:00 - Ryan empathises that we often want to share our enthusiasm of positive training with others and asks Sonya how her thoughts have changed with sharing information and her enthusiasm with others.
• 36:50 - Ryan describes a situation where a client may be using an aversive tool and asks Sonya how to become an effective coach for the clients that are asking for help in those cases.
• 43:25 - Sonya describes what the year of 2020 has looked like for her through the pandemic, the change and opportunities that have arisen and explains how she has managed to overcome the feeling of being nervous and have the courage to make this podcast with Ryan.
• 50:20 - Sonya provides details of where to find out more about her work within her business Dog Charming.
• 52:10 - Ryan explain that the podcast is going be turned into 2 parts and introduces that part 2 will discuss having a dog as an amputee and the training and husbandry requirements.
• 53:10 - Sonya thanks Ryan for the opportunity to share her journey with the ATA Audience

• 3:10 - Shelly takes us back to where her journey begin with positive reinforcement animal training.
• 19:30 - Ryan asks Shelly to share her work with children at Epic Pals - pairing children with dogs preparing to be adopted.
• 23:20 - Ryan and Shelly discuss the use of PORTL and resources used in the Epic Pals program and how it impacts the children
• 25:00 - Ryan asks where you can find out more about Shelly’s work at ‘Drop your jaws dog training’ and ‘Epic’
• 26:00 - Ryan introduces the new program that Shelly will be hosting for the ATA community.
• 27:45 - Shelly shares what makes it an exciting program for her to host and introduces the first members that she will be interviewing.
• 31:05 - Ryan reveals the expected launch date of the new podcasts!
• 31:50 - Ryan moves the conversation forward to look closer at Shelley’s experience with animal introductions.
• 33:50 - Shelly explains how she found her first foster dog and how her resources and knowledge and the ATA community has supported her through the experiences
• 37:15 - Ryan asks about the specific processes, techniques and strategies that have been helpful to implement when introducing new animals.
• 40:55 - Shelly talks us through the parallel walking process that she uses when introducing dogs
• 44:10 - Shelly introduces us to her new puppy, Castor and what she has been working on with him recently.
• 45:30 - Ryan asks a few questions regarding how Shelly has come to be able to bravely share her training and learning online with others.
• 49:15 - Ryan introduces a summary list: ‘5 things to consider when introducing animals in your house to each other’
• 50:35 - Ryan asks Shelly what the most reinforcing part of the process is for Shelly as a human learner in the processes [when sharing your training online]
• 54:05 - Shelly explains how important it is to choose where you share your training videos when you want feedback and support.
• 55:05 - Ryan asks Shelly to return to the time when she first brought home fosters and explain what was the antecedent set up in her home to make it more successful.
• 57:55 - Shelly explains what she may do differently next time and her favourite moments during introductions and with her foster dog Cross.
• 1:00:00 - Ryan asks Shelly to travel into the future and say what she would like to see happen over the next 5-10years.

• 3:45 - Ryan asks about Caitlin’s PhD in Evolutionary Biology and Caitlin shares her stories and journey of how positive reinforcement training began for her.
• 13:35 - Ryan asks how the diverse areas of her knowledge influence and blend into Caitlin’s current work.
• 17:25 - Caitlin explains with an example how she asks about behaviours using a diagnostic approach when using an online platform.
• 18:35 - Ryan expands the discussion point in relation to online social platform (Facebook) communities and groups and how to approach conversations when emotions are involved.
• 20:20 - Caitlin highlights the importance of highlighting the facts but also acknowledging emotions with human connection and empathy, before moving to the questions to assist with training, behaviour and solutions.
• 23:00 - Caitlin’s simple recipe to help others with behavioural enquiries on social media
• 25:00 - Caitlin notes the benefit of honest recognition of doing things well, noting courage, bravery and giving compliments to your audience and your team is beneficial.
• 27:35 - Caitlin shares how they manage their Facebook group members, the knowledge that they share and bring, and meeting the goals for being in the groups.
• 31:05 - Caitlin notes her participation rates on the Facebook group and discusses with Ryan how she approaches different cultures, races, ethnicities and wider world topics that may be controversial but may not relate directly to dog training.
• 37:40 - Ryan and Caitlin discuss how she manages the comments and posts that may disagree with the community philosophy or those comments that may trigger a reactive response form members.
• 41:00 - Ryan asks if Caitlin has taken her knowledge of behaviour of all learners and applied a behavioural approach to managing her group members.
• 43:30 - Caitlin describes the effective reinforcers for people that are utilised well on social media.
• 48:45 - Ryan encapsulates the last point in relation to our own training relationships.
• 50:05 - Caitlin shares her recent experience with her new horse and how critical trust can be in the training relationship.
• 53:30 - Caitlin expands how trust builds with people in the interactions on posts in FB.
• 54:40 - Ryan asks when you are using verbal language and the information is met with distrust how does Caitlin manage the defensive responses.
• 59:40 - Ryan asks what Caitlin wants to see happen in the training community over the next 5-10 years and Caitlin talks through some examples of changes that need to be embraced.
• 1:06:05: Caitlin explains where to go to find out more.
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• 1:20 - Ryan introduces Chris Shank
• 4:50 - Chris takes us back to the start of her training journey
• 12:00 - Chris explains that her new education and skills were difficult to transfer to her own pets
• 13:25 - Ryan asks about what valuable learning opportunities occurred from Chris’s time working with dolphins in the US and in Germany.
• 16:45 - Chris is honest and brave about sharing her experience regarding her introduction to breeding birds and the impact to her life.
• 20:45 - Ryan asks about the switch in Chris’s life regarding training techniques with birds
• 23:20 - Chris shares her face book and email details.
• 24:00 - Ryan asks about the activities and events at Cockatoo Downs.
• 28:25 - Ryan asks Chris to discuss free-flying parrots.
• 40:45 - Chris expands how she discusses with people about free-flying their pet parrots as it is often controversial.
• 45:10 - Ryan asks if having a frank conversation about consequences about free- flying their parrots with clients help. Chris describes an example of how it can go drastically wrong.
• 47:45 - Ryan asks about training with parent-raised birds and chicks.
• 54:00 - Chris shares her final comments on the training world at this time.
• 55:50 - Ryan thanks Chris and wraps up the episode.

• 3:10 - Sean shares how he started on his training journey and how constructional affection was ‘born’
• 15:50 - Ryan asks: Do some trainers have a reliance on food? Or are not looking for other methods or reinforcers?
• 20:20 - Sean introduces how he used CAT and CA with his own dog.
• 21:20 - Sean describes the procedure of Constructional Affection and outlines the two main steps required: Step 1: The interaction guidelines & Step 2: The affection required
• 28:07 - Sean defines the term ‘complex fading procedures’
• 29:15 - Ryan asks how Sean applies the process to the dogs in the shelter and if there are some dogs are more or less suitable for this particular process.
• 32:30 - Sean shares the story of ‘Big Mike’
• 39:10 - Sean describes that the schedule we are using is not actually a schedule of reinforcement but that the application of affection is actually a conjugate reinforcement procedure or technique.
• 43:20 - Ryan shares his experience with trying to apply it to his own situation at home with Fibi and Summer and asks Seans advice on the difficulties of split attention and being able to settle the dog using attention.
• 52:25 - Ryan asks how has constructional affection been applied with humans?
• 53:00 - Seans discusses the philosophies of the constructional approach.
• 58:15 - Ryan asks if some people have challenges with the application of the procedures.
• 1:03:00 - Sean explains what he would like to see occur in the next 5-10 years.

• 4:00 - How does the current global situation with the pandemic & subsequent change in our routines influence our animals and their behaviors.
• 4:20 - Malena defines and unpacks the term ‘Separation Anxiety’
• 6:44 - Ryan describes his own experience of a panic attack
• 7:30 - Ryan asks how do we build empathy in dog owners towards the effect of a panic attack or separation anxiety
• 10:45 - Malena’s shares the importance of helping clients to understand ‘The Why’ of the treatment of separation anxiety.
• 14:25 - Ryan asks: How important is it to get honesty and truth from your clients?
• 16:30 - Ryan asks to know what has been the most exciting change in Malena’s thinking, methods and research since the last podcast in 2018?
• 17:00 - Malena discussed her new book regarding the research since 1970’s
• 21:35 - Malena explains that she feels that there are some specific effective treatment protocols in place now that lead to success.
• 24:50 - Malena shares her personal findings and thoughts on which dogs tend to show more separation anxiety than others.
• 29:35 - Why separation anxiety is the biggest researched behaviour related diagnosis.
• 31:30 - Whether the changes occurring during the global pandemic will impact our dogs and how can we assess the impact of these changes.
• 40:15 - Malena discusses the genetic markers that have been researched in regards to separation anxiety.
• 45:55 - Ryan asks if owners may have noticed signs before lockdown of dogs having a tendency of separation anxiety and Malena describes the lower level signs of distress that get ‘missed’ by the owners.
• 49:50 - Malena shares her suggestions for clients at this time for dogs that may have separation relation concerns.
• 57:00 - Malena’s explains her approach to building a community to help clients with their dog.
• 59:50 - Ryan touches on one of Malena’s previous hopes and goals stated in 2018 and how she feels they have achieved or moved forward from that time.

* 4:45 - Ryan asks Afiya to expand on her academic journey and how she chose to study a Masters and Phd on the topic of growth mindset

* 9:16 - Afiya explains how struggle in her personal studies impacted her mindset.

* 9:50 -  The game changer for Afiya…How she became receptive and open to seeing failure as an opportunity to grow and learn.

* 12:45 - Afiya explains how gratitude presented an opportunity in Mindsetworks

* 17:35 - Afiya discusses how preparation of mindset opens possibilities for opportunities.

* 20:30 - Why do we pass up on certain opportunities?  What level of awareness and consciousness is present when opportunities arise.

* 22:20 - Ryan asks do people with growth mindset feel uncomfortable at times? And frames his thought process that led to the question

* 28:25 - How challenging emotions can impact our decisions for ourselves and others.

* 30:32 - Ryan asks what does Afiya’s role at Mindsetworks look like at the moment (prior to and during the pandemic)

* 35:15 - How the growth mindset programs can help parents, where they can find information to help support the development of their own children.

* 35:45 - Afiya describes that being mindful in the language you use can develop the growth mindset for your early learners (children)

* 44:07 - Ryan reads the mission of Mindsetworks

* 45:15 - Afiya shares the 5 biggest factors that she feels the company teaches and that all humans can use to operate more effectively.

* 56:00 - Ryan draughts an example of a discussion in relation to animal training leading to the next question…how do we get to the place where we are proficient at the tools and when do we know to use them for the learner in front of us?

* 58:30 - Afiya highlights the value of the learning zone.

* 1:04:15 - Ryan recaps Afiya’s top 5 factors that set you up for success in your growth mindset.

* 1:05:00 - Afiya shares with us what she would like the worlds growth mindset to be in the next 5-10 years.

* 4:30 - The Growth Mindset defined, why it is important and how it impacts and influences both behaviours and outcomes in our lives

* 8:00 - Ryan and Afiya raise how the context, & individual learning history may support and impact the development of our mindset

* 9:10 - Afiya shares ideas on where our mindset comes from

* 11:45 - How success impacts our mindset

* 15:00 - How praise can influence our mindset

* 18:00 - How communicating and rewarding a process rather than the product can impact mindset and lead to growth over time

* 20:19 - Ryan asks about ‘Imposter Syndrome’ in relation to the growth mindset

* 21:30 - Afiya discusses how our level of self-awareness can be beneficial for developing a growth mindset

* 22:15 - Afiya describes some benefits of being open about mistakes and imperfection

* 23:48 - Afiya shares a personal example of how your mindset can influence others around you and how struggle and challenge is an important part of the learning process

* 25:54 - Neuro-science & the growth mindset.

* 28:49 - Afiya talks about engaging in learning zone activities and deliberate practice to improve an aspect or skill

* 31:40 - Ryans asks about vulnerability, courage and teaching in different contexts with animals or humans

* 39:20 - Afiya discusses ways to help support others in developing a growth mindset.

* 41:09 - Growth mindset as a life long process of learning and development

* 45:57 - The importance of having awareness & reflecting on our own behaviours

* 4:06 - Steve talks about when he first learned about positive reinforcement training and shares some stories from that time.

* 8:45 – Steve shares about learning to give the animal a voice by being a student of body language and his move to becoming “the partner of the bird”.

* 12:43 – Ryan asks Steve to share with the listeners how they might become better observers of behavior.

* 16:15 – Steve talks about his process in building high trust accounts with people to give them feedback in order to help them improve their training.

* 29:38 – Ryan asks Steve to talk about something he heard him say years ago “I don’t aim to be the smartest person in the room.”

* 34:47 - Steve talks about how meeting Dr. Susan Friedman has impacted his life.

* 40:13 – Steve talks about his work consulting at zoos, his work travelling to observe natural behavior, and his new work moving into the world of virtual consulting.

* 44:04 – New learning opportunities through NEI TEC are discussed and can be found by visiting https://naturalencounters.com/.

* 50:17 – Inspiring caring that leads to conservation action is discussed.

* 59:47 - Steve discusses what he would like to see happen in the next 5-10 years in the world of positive reinforcement animal training.

* 3:34 – Lili shares about when she first learned about positive reinforcement animal training, including a story about her dog Boogie.

* 10:39 – Lili talks about Boogie and some things she has learned from him.

* 12:14 – Illustrating dog body language has become a bit of an obsession for Lili.

* 18:46 – Ryan asks Lili to share about reaching out to Sophia Yin to collaborate.

* 27:21 – Lili uses art to make language about positive reinforcement training accessible to the public.

* 33:22- The importance of cuteness and simplicity as key components of Lili’s artwork is discussed.

* 36:40 – Ryan asks Lili to talk about her process in developing her animal body language illustrations.

* 41:38 – Lili talks about working with Sarah Owings to develop the “How to Fill Your Dog’s Emotional Cup” infographic.

* 47:33 – Ryan asks Lili what she means when she says that “she hasn’t even got started yet”.

* 50:24 – Lili talks about what she would like to see in the next 5-10 years in the animal training community.

In this awesome continuation of our conversation with Rose Browne, a certified professional animal trainer and founder of Dynamic Canines, we delve into the crucial topic of emotional wellbeing in puppies. Rose shares her expert insights on the five biggest things trainers can do to foster emotional health in puppies and support their clients in creating a positive, nurturing environment for their new furry family members.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

• The five essential strategies for trainers to ensure the emotional wellbeing of puppies from the start.
• How these strategies can be effectively communicated to puppy guardians to prevent behavioral issues before they arise.
• Real-life examples from Rose’s extensive experience on how these approaches have improved the training process for both puppies and their owners.
• The importance of early intervention and the role of trainers in guiding puppy parents through the critical early stages of development.
• Rose’s ongoing commitment to integrating the latest research in canine behavior to provide practical, actionable advice for both trainers and pet owners.

Why This Episode Is a Must-Listen:

This episode is a must-listen for dog trainers, puppy guardians, and anyone interested in the emotional and behavioral development of puppies. Rose Browne’s expertise and passion for fostering healthy puppy development offer invaluable lessons on how to build a strong, positive foundation for a lifetime of good behavior.

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* 3:44 – Greg talks about getting started in the field of Behavior Analysis.

* 9:13 – Greg shares about some pivotal moments in his career.

* 14:17 – About Greg's company - FTF Behavior - and the work that they do.

* 22:15 – Greg tells people they can visit www.practicalfunctionalassessment.com and go to the “Implementation Assistance” tab to find information about how to improve sleep.

* 23:54 – Ryan asks Greg to share important considerations he makes when teaching clients about Behavior Analysis.

* 28:25 - Greg explains the term televisibility.

* 37:50 – Greg talks a little about schedules of reinforcement and choice.

* 42:34 – Five big ideas Greg would like to share with animal trainers.

* 42:37 – The big idea that ... “All our procedures are derived from our priorities.”

* 48:53 – Greg talks about his priorities of safety, televisibility and rapport.

* 50:13 – Greg talks about holism.

* 1:00 – “Shaping from joy and shaping from freedom.”

* 1:09 – The use of intermittent and unpredictable reinforcement is discussed.

* 1:15 – Greg tells people they can find the apps he talked about by going to the “Implementation Assistance” tab at www.practicalfunctionalassessment.com

* 1:21 – Ryan asks Greg what he would like to see happen over the next 5–10 years in the world of Behavior Analysis.

* 5:22 – Ken discusses some of the changes that he and KPA have had to make as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic [including changes to the Karen Pryor Professional dog training certification].

* 16:57 – Ryan asks Ken to share what message he can give to trainers who are currently struggling.

* 31:14 – Ryan asks Ken if he can share some thoughts on how trainers may best serve others during this time.

* 39:30 – Ken shares about a time he felt vulnerable but still had courage to move forward.

* 50:57 – Ken's offerings for others about how to push through during vulnerable times.

* 53:35 – Ryan asks Ken to share his thoughts on the following question from ATA member Bex Tasker: “Do you significantly adjust your approach based on the species you are work with, and if so, what are some of the main considerations you think are important for trainers to take into account?”

* 3:37 – Vidhya talks about when she first learned about positive reinforcement training and shares some stories from that time.

* 11:04 – Ryan asks Vidhya to talk about how she processes it when she sees others using aversives in animal training.

* 14:40 – Vidhya talks about the need for more widely available education about what can be done with positive reinforcement.

* 20:43 – Vidhya talks about the questions she asks herself related to her training.

* 35:07 – Ryan asks Vidhya what skills are required in concept training.

* 39:40 – Vidhya talks about how to get started in concept training.

* 47:49 – Vidhya tells the story of when she decided she wanted to teach concepts.

* 1:01 – Vidhya talks about what she would like to see happen in the next 5-10 years in the animal training world.

* 3:38 – Marjie talks about how she became a dog trainer and shares some stories from that time.

* 20:13 – Marjie discusses how her approach to learning has helped her as the Executive Director of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC).

* 24:50 – Ryan asks Marjie to talk a bit about what she means by some people viewing the use or non/use of certain tools in training as a religion.

* 30:11 – Marjie talks about the importance of accountability and collaboration in the field.

* 33:11 – The need for regulation in the industry is discussed.

* 35:36 - Marjie and Ryan talk about the potential benefits or harm of the use of the word “tribe”.

* 38:38 – Ryan asks Marjie if she thinks that people have a desire to belong to something and how we can satisfy that desire to people, while being inclusive.

* 51:12 – Marjie shares five important lessons she has learned that have helped her achieve success with the IAABC.

* 51:38 – 1.) “Never select ‘reply all’ by mistake.”

* 51:47 –  2.) “Be something people can move toward, rather than huddling against together”.

* 52:10 –  3.) “Fight for what’s right over what is popular”.

* 52:28 – 4.) “The internet will kill me someday”.

* 52:34 – 5.) “Most people are great.”

* 53:37 - Marjie talks about the “Lemonade Conference” which is being done in collaboration between the IAABC and Fenzi Dog Sports Academy.

* 57:15 – “The Pandemic Handbook” and “The Dog Trainer’s Handbook” will soon be available on the IAABC website .

* 1:02 – Marjie talks about what she would like to see happen in the next 5-10 years in the animal training world.

1:30 – Ryan introduces Nicolette.

3:45 – Nicolette talks about her positive reinforcement journey and some of the first animals she trained.

6:13 – Nicolette shares some memories from her time in the Exotic Training and Animal Management Program at Moorpark College.

8:55 – A little about Nicolette’s time working with the Navy and how and why she ultimately decided to follow her curiosity to graduate school.

14:40 – Ryan asks Nicolette how she is able to turn her curiosity into action.

33:40 – Nicolette talks about her working using Community Based Social Marketing (CBSM) model to improve environmental programs.

41:22 – Similarities between CBSM and ABA are discussed.

1:02: Nicolette talks about what she wants to see happen in the behavior science world in the next 5-10 years.

1:06 – To find out more about what Nicolette is currently doing, visit www.action3630.com .  To find out more about CBSM visit www.cbsm.com . People can email Nicolette directly at canzoneri@actionresearch-inc.com

1:07 – Ryan thanks Nicolette for coming on the show.

1:08 - Ryan directs people to www.animaltrainingacademy.com to find out more about ATA including membership.

1:27 – Ryan introduces Bryan.

3:35 – Bryan talks about Aubrey Daniels International.

7:07 – Bryan’s journey to behavioral analysis and work with organizations and businesses is discussed.

14:36 – Ryan asks Bryan if he always knew he wanted to work in Organizational Behavioral Management.

17:37 – Bryan talks about what he thinks his wife might say it is like to be married to someone who works in the field of behavioral science.

20:00 – “A day in the life of Bryan.”

24:09 – Bryan explains why they always teach organizational leaders about the science.

28:13 – Ryan shares a favorite story about teaching someone about the science of behavior.

31:32 - Find out more about Bryan and his work at Aubrey Daniels International at https://www.aubreydaniels.com/ or find him on LinkedIn.

34:28 – Bryan talks about what animal trainers are already doing really well that others could learn from beginning with embracing “the rat is always right” thinking.

40:25 – Bryan notes that animal trainers already do extremely well relying on positive reinforcement.

51:19 – The importance of precision of reinforcement delivery is discussed.

56:15 – Bryan says animal trainers use shaping and chaining better than most.

58:40 - Five things we can learn from Bryan’s work with organizations to be better animal trainers.

58:45 – Start by building relationships.

1:01 – Deliver reinforcement to human learners immediately or describe the behavior well enough so that the person knows what to repeat.

1:02 – When you coach behaviors, start with only one or two at a time and apply the concept of shaping.

1:04 – Develop a plan and collect data.

1:05 – In most organizations today, there is a lack of positive reinforcement.

1:10 – Bryan talks about what he hopes to see transpire with behavior science in the next 5-10 years.

1:12 – Bryan reminds everyone they can find out more about him at https://www.aubreydaniels.com/.

1:13 – Ryan thanks Bryan for coming on the show.

1:14 - Ryan directs people to www.animaltrainingacademy.com to find out more about ATA including membership.

* 3:56 – Leslie talks about where she first learned about positive reinforcement training and shares some stories from that time.

* 7:40 – Ryan asks Leslie what she brought with her from her time as a swimmer that has helped her in dog training.

* 9:43 – Leslie talks about her introduction to behaviorism through reading Dr. Nicholas Dodman’s book.

* 10:52 – Leslie talks about her dog Tundra and some of the things she learned from Tundra’s challenges with other dogs.

* 14:30 – Leslie talks about how she got started in the world of sports medicine.

* 16:13 – Ryan asks what a general job description for a sports medicine specialist is.

* 24:21 – Leslie talks about how one might become a sports medicine veterinarian.

* 28:53 – Find out more about Leslie’s work at the Sound Veterinary Rehab Clinic at www.soundvetrehab.com and find out more about the online classes Leslie teaches at www.thetotalcanine.net and on Facebook under The Total Canine.

* 32:19 – Leslie talks about the importance of an exercise plan for both dog sport people, and average pet dog owners.

* 46:00 – Leslie shares some suggestions for people who are just getting started with fitness training.

* 49:33 – Leslie talks about what developing fitness plans is like for sports dog people.

* 57:00 – Leslie talks about the concept of “drive” and how sometimes what we are labeling as drive is actually another challenge.

* 1:05 – Ryan asks Leslie to take us into the future and talk about what she wants to see happen in the next five to ten years in the veterinary world and positive reinforcement training world.

* 3:05 - Colleen and Ryan talk about burn out and the high rates of it out among pet care professionals.

* 6:40 – Ryan asks Colleen about compassion fatigue.

* 8:40 – Ryan asks Colleen to share her story - beginning with where she learned about positive reinforcement training.

* 27:35 – Colleen talks about when she began making the shift from training to diving into positive psychology.

* 30:08 – Colleen talks about her current work helping pet professionals to develop stronger resilience, learn to manage their

stress, and find more joy.

* 31:30 – Find out more about what Colleen is doing including her work with “Unleashed Resilience” at www.colleenpelar.com 

* 32:00 – Colleen offers a working definition of resilience.

* 34:50 – Colleen explains what “comparingitis” is, why we need to be aware of it, and what we can do about it.

* 43:00 – Ryan and Colleen talk about the importance of the use of language in framing things.

* 50:10 – Colleen talks about the importance of developing quality questions.

* 53:22 – Ryan and Colleen revisit how to deal with “comparingitis”.

* 1:02 – What would Colleen like to see happen in the next 5-10 years in the area of mental health and the animal training world?

* 1:05 – Colleen talks about Unleashed Resilience and tells people they can find out more about what she is doing at www.colleenpelar.com

* 3:33 – Lori talks about where she first learned about positive reinforcement animal training and shares some stories from the first animals she ever trained.

* 9:16 - The importance of having good observation skills is explained.

* 16:45 – Ryan asks Lori to talk about how she has managed her own self-care through the years.

* 21:50 – Lori shares about her various professional certifications and why she believes professional certifications are important.

* 24:43 – Lori talks about the impact of quitting her full time, non-animal related job.

* 26:02 – People can visit the Fenzi Dog Sports Academy website at https://www.fenzidogsportsacademy.com/people/786-people/faculty/12632-lori-stevens and/or Lori’s website, www.seattlettouch.com, to find out more about her classes.

* 28:20 – Lori and Ryan dive deeper into the discussion about observation skills, including talking about how to teach observation skills to people.

* 3:32 – Lori talks about the benefits of using video with clients.

* 35:55 – Ryan asks Lori to talk more about why she thinks working with people to change “just one small thing” is important.

* 39:43 – Lori talks about how we can help the aging animals in our lives.

* 42:41 – How to use our different senses for observational purposes.

* 57:07 – The importance of teaching people and dogs how to move their bodies is discussed.

* 1:02 - Lori shares what she would like to see happen in the next five to ten years in the animal training world.

* 1:51 – Jesús talks about working with students to design research projects based on “hot topic” training ideas.

* 4:38 – Poisoned cues are discussed including a research project done by Jesús and one of his students.

* 17: 09 - Jesús says he believes the new frontier of animal training is a deeper understanding of stimulus control and how to use that to solve problems and enhance our work.

* 17:33 – Jesús talks about PORTL (Portable Operant Research and Teaching Lab).

* 19:09 – Jesús talks about “Jackpots”.

* 26:07 – Research projects around rate of reinforcement are discussed.

* 30:00 – Jesús suggests googling his name to find his students’ projects or check ORCA’s website (https://orca.unt.edu/) for projects as well.

* 31:38 – Ryan asks Jesús to talk about “Keep Going Signals”.

* 45:57 – Jesús talks about how he wants to see the discussion and understanding around stimulus control develop in the coming years.

In this episode, we are excited to welcome Rose Browne, a highly esteemed Karen Pryor Academy Certified Training Partner, Fear-Free Certified professional, and founder of Dynamic Canines. With over two decades of experience in canine behavior and development, Rose shares her journey and passion for helping dogs and their owners thrive.

What You'll Discover in This Episode:

• Rose’s philosophy on early intervention and the importance of addressing a puppy’s emotional well-being from the start.
• Her innovative approach to integrating the latest scientific research in animal behavior into practical, everyday training for pet owners.
• The development and significance of the the new Puppy Start Right for Instructors Online Preschool, which Rose authored for the Karen Pryor Academy [the online integrative component for the original Puppy Start Right Preschool for Instructors].
• Personal stories from Rose’s experiences with her German Shepherds and how they shaped her understanding of canine behavior.
• How Rose continues to evolve as a lifelong student in the field, and her commitment to transferring her knowledge to others.

Why This Episode Is a Must-Listen:

Rose Browne’s deep understanding of canine behavior and her commitment to positive, science-based training methods make this episode a treasure trove of insights for anyone interested in dog training. Whether you're a new puppy parent or a seasoned trainer, Rose’s experiences and strategies offer valuable lessons on creating a harmonious relationship with your canine companion.

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Looking Ahead:

Don't miss part two of our conversation with Rose Browne, where we dive deeper into her experiences and explore more advanced topics in dog training and behavior.

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* 1:25 - Ryan introduces Dr. Jesús Rosales-Ruiz.

* 3:45 - Jesús talks about where he first learned about Applied Behavior Analysis and what led him to his current work.

* 17:58 - Jesús talks about meeting Karen Pryor and Gary Wilkes in 1992 at the Association of Applied Behavior Analysis International.

* 20:15 - Jesús was hired by the University of North Texas (UNT) and begins using pets to teach students the principles of Applied Behavior Analysis.

* 23:20 - Bob and Marian Bailey volunteer to visit UNT regularly to help the students jumpstart their learning.

* 25:30 - A student identifies a socially relevant problem (horse trailer loading) to do her thesis on. The problem was solved and the results were published in Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis (JABA).

* 27:25 - Eduardo Fernandez comes to UNT and he and five other students create ORCA.

* 29:30 - Jesús and his students begin doing work with rescue animals to help make them more adoptable.

* 30:28 - In the early 2000s, Karen Pryor visits Jesús at UNT and talks to him about her plans to form Clicker Expo and invites him to be part of this movement.

* 40:50 - Kay Laurence suggests creating a new conference at UNT, and the Art and Science of Animal Training Conference was born.

* 45:15 - Jesús discusses a couple more published studies including one about a monkey with self-injurious behavior.

* 1:25 - Ryan introduces Chad.

* 4:17 - Chad talks about when he first learned of positive reinforcement animal training and shares stories of some of the first animals he trained.

* 14:17 - Ryan asks Chad to fill the audience in on the time between his career & his current work - including sharing about some of the amazing people he has had the opportunity to work with.

* 20:27 - Chad talks a bit about his work with marine mammals.

* 24:40 - Chad discusses his current role as the Senior Keeper of Birds and Herpetofauna at Zoos South Australia and how positive reinforcement animal training fits in with that role.

* 27:59 - A story about getting a voluntary blood draw from a 42-year-old tortoise.

* 36:47 - Chad shares some stories of a special bird he worked with.

* 43:30 - A story about one of the marine mammals Chad worked.

* 55:20 - Chad talks about working with two of his rescue dogs.

* 1:02 - Ryan asks Chad to share with the audience what he wants to see in the positive reinforcement animal training world over the next five to ten years.

Sarah is the founder of The Cognitive Canine, a dog trainer, dog agility and obedience competitor, and dog behavior consultant.  She travels the globe helping dogs and handlers understand each other better.

Her credentials include a bachelors of science degree in psychology from Colorado State University, and more than a decade in the field of dog training and behavior with her special interest area being problem solving for performance dogs.

She is committed to education and growth in the field of dog training and attends the innovative training conference, Clicker Expo, every year.  In addition to offering seminars internationally, she coaches teams online and is a faculty member at Fenzi Dog Sports Academy.