Ever walked away from school pick-up mentally exhausted from awkward small talk, unspoken social rules, or overthinking what you said? You’re not alone.

For ADHD and autistic mums, pick-up isn’t just about collecting your child - it’s a social minefield that can leave you feeling wiped out, anxious, or like you somehow “got it wrong.”

But what if school pick-up didn’t have to be so exhausting?

In this episode:

• How to stop replaying conversations in your head for hours after pick-up.
• A simple way to handle small talk without draining your energy.
• When masking is helpful and when it’s just not worth it.
• How to know who’s worth your energy (and when to let go of the guilt).
• What to do when rejection sensitivity kicks in and you start spiralling.

If school pick-up feels awkward, exhausting, or just too much, this episode is for you.

👉 Grab my guide Navigating School Pick-Up: A Guide for ADHD Mums - it’s full of real-life scripts and strategies to help you feel more confident. Get it for $30 on my website.

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Topics Covered in This Episode: School pick-up, ADHD mums, autistic mums, social exhaustion, overthinking social interactions, small talk anxiety, masking, rejection sensitivity, social burnout, managing social energy, neurodivergent parenting, awkward social situations, playground dynamics, navigating school pick-up, ADHD social skills, ADHD and masking, social overwhelm, avoiding small talk, decoding neurotypical communication, school pick-up anxiety, ADHD mum life, neurodivergent communication, ADHD-friendly strategies, ADHD and social interactions, ADHD and social anxiety, ADHD mum struggles, ADHD-friendly parenting tips.

Mentioned in this episode:

A Guide to Navigating School Pick-Up

If school pick-up feels like an Olympic sport you forgot to train for, this guide is for you. Packed with relatable stories, actionable tips, and easy-to-use scripts, Navigating School Pick-Up is designed to help...

Thousands of families are being blindsided by the latest NDIS cuts, with children losing essential support before new systems are in place. Parents are being told their child has “achieved their goals” - only to be left scrambling for therapy they still desperately need. If you’re feeling frustrated, exhausted, or just plain angry, you’re not alone.

In this episode, Nicole Rogerson joins me for a straight-talking, no-nonsense conversation about what’s happening, why it matters, and what we can do right now to fight for our children’s support.

Nicole is the founding director of Autism Awareness Australia, a trusted, independent source of information for our community since 2007. For over 18 years, she’s cut through misinformation, fought for real change, and helped families like ours navigate a system that too often leaves us behind.

She is one of Australia’s leading spokespersons for autism awareness and understanding. She has appeared on 60 Minutes, The 7.30 Report, Today, A Current Affair, Australian Story, and The Australian Women’s Weekly, using every platform possible to make sure our voices are heard.

But above all, Nicole’s an autism mum. Her eldest son, Jack, is the reason she does this work - and why she’s so committed to making sure we have the information and support we need.

📌 Learn more about Nicole and her work here: Autism Awareness Australia

If your family has been impacted by these cuts, submit your experience here:

👉 NDIS Changes Impact Form

Resources mentioned:

Autism Awareness Australia - email office@autismawareness.com.au 

Nicole Rogerson on ABC News 24 | National Autism Strategy

Autism Awareness Australia - In the media 

Email templates to local MP

ADHD Mums Facebook Group 

Jotform - https://form.jotform.com/242968415771871

Related Episodes:

The NDIS Shake-Up and National Autism Strategy: What Jane Really Thinks. Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify

Explaining ADHD to Your Child: Why It Matters (Part 1). Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify

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Being diagnosed with ADHD can bring a mix of emotions - grief, relief, confusion, and a whole lot of questions. It’s a lot to process, and you’re doing the best you can.

In this episode:

• Grief, overwhelm, and imposter syndrome.
• Practical strategies designed for ADHD brains.
• Unmasking, managing the mental load, and finding what works for you.
• Most importantly, you’re not failing - you’re learning how to thrive.

Resources Mentioned:

• ADHD Planner & Personal Values Workbook: ADHD-friendly calendar
• A Guide to ADHD Medication
• The Gottman Institute

This episode is here to share experiences, insights, and strategies, but it’s not a substitute for medical advice. If you have questions about your ADHD diagnosis or treatment, chat with a trusted healthcare professional. Take what works for you and leave the rest - this is your journey!

JOIN THE COMMUNITY:

Have questions or want to connect with other ADHD mums? Join our supportive Facebook group here and dive into the conversation. No question is too small, and I love answering in a group format!

FOLLOW FOR MORE:

Get daily tips, insights, and relatable content for ADHD mums by following me on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok or YouTube

LEAVE A REVIEW:

Love this episode? Your review means everything! It helps other mums find this content and feel supported. Let’s spread the word and make a difference together.

COLLABS:

For collaborations or speaking engagements, email me at jane@adhdmums.com.au.

MORE RESOURCES:

Still unsure if ADHD or autism applies to you or your child? Take my recommended self-tests here.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

ADHD diagnosis as a mum Emotional impact of ADHD diagnosis Strategies for ADHD management Grieving after ADHD diagnosis Rejection sensitivity dysphoria (RSD) ADHD and emotional regulation Masking and burnout in ADHD mums ADHD friendly tools and systems ADHD and relationships Neurodivergent parenting challenges ADHD strengths and superpowers Tips for ADHD mums ADHD friendly calendar tools Practical advice for ADHD mums

On this episode of The ADHD Mums Podcast, Jane is joined by Tania Waring, lawyer and advocate/care coordinator Mum of three neurodiverse boys. As they delve into the challenges faced by parents of neurodiverse children during school holidays. Tania, a mother of three boys, one with autism and ADHD, shares her journey and highlights the importance of celebrating small victories amidst the daily stress of school life. Jane and Tania cover the impact of neurodiverse children on family dynamics, addressing strains on marriages and mental health.

Tania provides hopeful insights based on her experiences, emphasising the positive impact of growth and maturity in neurodiverse children. The conversation also explores practical tips for holiday planning, collaborative problem-solving, and involving the child in discussions about potential challenges and solutions. Tania shares insights into traveling, accommodations, and planning activities, stressing the need for downtime and flexibility.

Tania encourages all mums to finding joy in moments amid the challenges as well as to plan with their child's needs in mind, which will help create a positive holiday experience for neurodiverse children, their siblings and parents.

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to leave a rating on the streaming platform of your choice so that this podcast series is boosted in the charts, to help us reach more ADHD mums! 

Tania's other episodes are here:

Australian School System

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0os4ZsrjXEY9yTyWJqmf6M?si=DMkgSQWtTQO-Dc0KIWL-6g

Melt Downs

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7IdNqpCHo8IFLWAJ9axEFC?si=2f7BD7L0R1K-nF13zl8K4g

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Jane interviews Kylie Smart from

Jane interviews Kylie Smart, ADHD Mum and Naturopath on PMS and ADHD. The MOST anticipated subject EVER.

Highlights

- Why do we experience it 

- What does PMS feel like

- PMS and PMDD - people say online, 'I feel crazy.'

- Kylie talks about the WHEN and how important that is - when do the feelings happen, is it ovulation? or before period?

- What can we do about it?

- Will this get worse or better with age. ?

- Jane talks about barriers to doing naturopathy when you have ADHD (overwhelm and all or nothing attitude)

- Kylie talks prevention vs cure 

Check out Kylie's information on:

https://www.kyliesmart.com.au/

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Jane's back with Sharon Collin from 'The Functional Family'

Sharon is neurotypical (supposably) Jane says she is now dubious on this one. Sharon has a ADHD husband and three sons with ADHD.

Highlights:

- What to do with a sensory seeker

- What to do with an antagonist child

- What kind of attitude do we have?

- How can we find the joy even when there is just a second of it.

- Do we need to fix our kids?

- What are our family values

- What systems can we implement

- What are predictable problems

- Jane gives Sharon her most frustrating problem, the 10min period in her afternoon that ruins her. Sharon SOLVES it!

Check out Sharon's other episode here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2jSsYji6hrnVZ5rv793VlI?si=syC9H-DaR7GD1xN_CQwf9g

Check out Sharon's website here:

https://www.thefunctionalfamily.com/

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Jane interviews Millie (one of her favourite guests) on masking and highly camoflaging ADHD and ASD in females. Millie is a teacher based in Melbourne, she has ADHD and has neurodiverse children herself.

Highlights

- Can labelling be positive, why is there the hesitation?

- Should we talk to our kids about their ADHD?

- The trend towards successful celebrities or sports people being labelled neurodiverse.

- The correlation between success and neurodiversity.

- What is the personal cost of perfectionist behaviour and ADHD.

- Highly perfectionist children (or typically girls) who are conscientious are hard to identify.

- Physical 'symptoms' of being unwell for girls are often presented as anxiety such as stomach aches.

- Children's perception vs reality negative view on their lives

- Girls presenting with social issues can be an indicator

- Where can you find people who understand how ADHD presents in females? What can we do to improve that?

- Jane goes out of scope as per usual and speculates on prescribing rights and the Australian medical system which she has no business speculating on.

*Jane and Millie are not medical experts and you should always seek your own advice*

Check out Millie's other episodes here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Q3lfxlmvcaFVRuYkaxzHl?si=dmWW1YlbTk-PtgHgH_buRA

Masking ADHD in girls questionnaire

https://www.additudemag.com/self-test-adhd-symptoms-women-girls/

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Jane interviews Jessica Burgess (Psychologist and friend) on High Performance and ADHD.

Highlights:

- What is high achievement and how is it different to high performance?

- Women are praised for their ADHD traits but they are also sometimes detrimental to mental

and physical health.

- Does medication really dull the creativity and beauty?

- What are strengths for ADHD in the workplace?

- How does leadership look for ADHD and burnout?

- Why do ADHD so often start their own business?

- The interplay between perfectionism and 'not feeling good enough' and ADHD.

- Achievement cycles and how to stop doing it.

- Some strategies from Jess on how to align your values with what you actually do every week.

- Jane talks about wellbeing vs achievement at school.

- Should we disclose ADHD at work?

- How can we encourage more inclusion?

- Jane shares on her childhood and how it created a high achievement vortex that has proven her successful but at what cost?

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On this episode of The ADHD Mums podcast, Jane shares her personal journey with ADHD and her commitment to offering valuable insights and support based on extensive research.

Jane delves into her own experiences with NDIS (National Disability Insurance Scheme) and the determination to provide assistance to others navigating similar challenges. Jane shares her experiences with her daughter, Gigi, and her developmental delays, along with the pivotal moment when specialised medical advice led to NDIS support.

Jane sheds light on various support avenues, including Centrelink options and early intervention programs for young children.

Jane also underscores the significance of early intervention for children, particularly those with developmental delays.

Jane stresses that a formal diagnosis isn't a prerequisite for accessing early intervention services through the NDIS, with NDIS now extending eligibility for early intervention services up to the age of nine.

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to leave a rating on the streaming platform of your choice so that this podcast series is boosted in the charts, to help us reach more ADHD mums!

Episode Notes

Connecting with your local NDIS early intervention provider

https://www.ndis.gov.au/understanding/families-and-carers/early-childhood-approach-children-younger-9/connecting-early-childhood-partner

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Jane is joined by Jasmine Meek - they Bayside Doula for a f/up interview

on receiving a diagnosis.

The first episode 32. Preparing for a diagnosis appointment is a good one to start with

this episode is part two.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4lmaXn1P2UcKrMyK4RTFGo?si=IkQ7CiLASQK9UO0Yj4DeaQ

Highlights

- Jasmine discuss magic and time/space where she assumes she has enough time and is never

on time to appointments.

- Jasmine's in person Psychiatrist really focuses on the lack of childhood symptoms in Jasmine's

questionnaire.

- Jane and Jasmine discuss the DSM5 and the ADHD criteria to fulfil the diagnosis requirements

including the childhood symptoms component.

- Jane has PMS and rants hard on the camouflaging symptoms and masking and how the system

is rigged against women.

- Jane continues her rant onto Psychiatrists, problem solving and the validation that we think we are going

to get there which in her opinion rarely happens.

- Jasmine speculates that she has been offered anti depressants and anti anxiety medication instead of stimulants

just because of the 'street value' of stimulants.

- Jane and Jasmine talk about childhood as high maskers and high camouflages which means they don't have a lot

of childhood symptoms.

- Jane and Jasmine talk through Jasmine's options and Jasmine talks about how this appointment is effecting her

as a mother.

**Jane and Jasmine are not medical professionals, this is a heated discussion rather than an expert information session.

You need to check with your medical professional on your medication and treatment options**

Episode Notes

DSM-5 for ADHD

https://www.addrc.org/dsm-5-criteria-for-adhd/

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Jane interviews Jess Burgess (Psychologist) on this expert view on Anxiety and ADHD.

(Fast forward first 5mins if you don't want to hear about Jess and Jane friendship and surfing careers lolz).

Highlights:

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- How are anxiety and adhd are linked

- Jess explains working memory about why people with ADHD struggle with it.

- How beliefs form

- Why people are often treated for anxiety instead of ADHD and what benefits that has.

- Where does anxiety begin ? 

- Environment vs genetic 

- Stress on the ADHD Mum to do early intervention whilst digesting their own diagnosis.

- Jess discusses strategies for anxiety for Mum's and also families.

- Boundaries and how they impact on anxiety.

- Why self care is important for our kids to SEE us do.

- Jane discusses one of her largest problems, her to do list, her need to be productive

and her to do list obsession and the anxiety that goes hand in hand with that.

- Jess discusses the cycle of anxiety and how we can get out of it.

App suggested by Jane

Ourpact —> Jane uses this app to use parental controls on her kids iPads .

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Jane interviews Shantelle Poynter (her most regular guest) on Holidaying with ADHD and ADHD kids.

This is a follow up interview from 'Self Hatred and ADHD' where Shantelle mentions at the end about

an upcoming holiday to Maryborough and that she would be holidaying differently this time.

Jane catches up with Shantelle after the holiday to see how it went.

Highlights:

- Why are holidays (with kids even more so) so hard?

- The impulsivity behind 'extending the break' by adding together public holidays

- What is the perfect amount of time to holiday?

- Creating an itinerary vs 'letting go'

- Medication juggle - Shantelle teaches Jane about a delivery system that changes her world

- Shantelle discusses how she left for the holiday differently, travelled differently and whether it worked.

- Shantelle 'let it go' in terms of food - how did that go - and being hangry impact on kids.

- Jane and Shantelle discuss quantity of time vs quality of time

- Jane discloses a terrible impulsive holiday decision she made - that is non refundable and now panics

at the thought of it.

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Jane interviews Amanda Di Giglio (waiting on ADHD diagnosis) and Sarah Potts (Neurotypical). Both are 38

year old women who have been friends for 26 years.

Amanda has 5 year boy with a ASD diagnosis and 2.5 year old daughter. Sarah has 7 year old daughter and

5 year old boy.

Both are married and work part time in NSW.

The idea of this episode is to compare the experiences of an ADHD Mum vs a

Neurotypical Mum. If you are questioning if you have ADHD or is this just Mum life?

This is the episode for you.

Highlights:

- Sarah and Amanda compares their morning routine.

--> Do they get there on time?

--> How do they remember everything?

-- What's their mood like?

- Sarah and Amanda compare the way they organise themselves

for 'colour day.'

--> Jane jumps in and compares pre medicated Jane and medicated Jane.

She can actually start to operate in some similarity with Sarah.

Sarah and Amanda discuss meal planning, grocery shopping and logistics

in a household. Admin tasks, change in routine, sick kids.

--> How many tabs are open, what systems are used, how do you handle

stress and last minute changes?

They also discuss holidaying together, who arrives at the airport when, who organises

the itinerary and how it works.

Sarah and Amanda discuss dopamine seeking behaviour, Jane compares unmedicated Jane

to medicated Jane.

This episode is all about the comparisons. This is always a dangerous area, we don't want to compare

our lives about whose life is harder - yet we also want to draw the line between an ADHD Mum and a

neurotypical Mum. They are both challenging yet they are also very difficult. If you aren't sure where

you sit, what is 'normal' and what isn't - then this is the episode for you.

Check out Sarah's organisation business

www.zenspacesbysarah.com.au

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Are you unsure about how to talk to your child about ADHD? Feeling overwhelmed, second-guessing yourself, or worried you’ll get it “wrong”? Whether you’re just starting this conversation or fine-tuning your approach, this episode has the answers you’ve been searching for (plus the validation you didn’t know you needed).

Download the free guide: “Explaining ADHD to Your Child: The Why and How” here

In this episode: 

• Age-appropriate explanations that just click.
• How to help your child own their strengths and explain ADHD confidently to others.
• Avoiding the “too positive” or “too negative” trap - get the balance right.
• Protecting your child from unsolicited advice and navigating tricky family dynamics like a pro.
• Why connection matters more than perfection - this is about building trust and self-acceptance.

This isn’t just a “what to say” guide. It’s about laying the foundation for your child to see themselves as capable, worthy, and celebrated.

Go deeper with my A Mum’s Guide to Supporting Your Child’s Diagnosis and Helping Others ‘Get It’: HERE

Listen to Part 1 Here: S02E53: Explaining ADHD to Your Child: Why It Matters (Part 1) Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify

• A Mum’s Guide to Supporting Your Child’s Diagnosis and Helping Others ‘Get It’: Packed with practical tips, relatable stories, and strategies to make these conversations easier.
• Explore tools, books, and resources to support your child with ADHD HERE.
• S01E41: Camouflaging ADHD + Autistic Traits in Girls with Millie Carr
• Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify
• S01E65: From Skeptic to Advocate: Medication for Children
• Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify
• S02E50: Stop People-Pleasing: The ADHD Mum’s Guide to Boundaries, Balance, and Breaking Free
• Listen on Apple Podcasts |

Jane interviews Sharon Collin from 'The Functional Family' on relationships.

Sharon has a ADHD husband and three sons with ADHD, she herself is neurotypical.

Sharon has studied ADHD heavily and built a coaching business and family membership around it.

Highlights

- Sharon and Jane discuss the frustration, anger and common problems that occur between two different

brains managing a house hold.

- Sharon discusses the changes in her attitude over time, how she looks at her husband with curiosity not

frustration. There is always a danger to nag or 'mother' an ADHD person - this is a romance killer!

- What attracted Sharon to her husband

- What Sharon's husband went through as a child at school - being labelled 'naughty'

and the kid that no one wanted to hang out with. Sharon is determined this will not happen to her sons.

- Sharon talks on forgiveness and patience and learning to accept the whole person.

- Sharon talks on 'Predictable Problems,' what they are and how they impact a relationship.

- Jane and Sharon talk about dynamics that can eat away at your relationship.

- The invisible mother load and how having ADHD impacts this.

- Jane and Sharon talk about 'family meetings' once a week (template available on Sharon's website)

- Jane and Sharon talk about how different brains listen and solve problems.  

- What are you good at - let's all play to our strengths.

- Tap in and out with your husband or partner 

- Horrifying example of Sharon husband selling car out from underneath her LOLZ!!

- Jane shares a personal struggle she is struggling with and Sharon helps sorts her out. 

Serious question: Can Sharon marry me ?? Why is she so accepting? I need to be more like that.

Episode Notes

Check out Sharon at https://www.thefunctionalfamily.com/

 https://www.thefunctionalfamily.com/blog/letscallafamilymeeting (family meeting template)

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Jane interviews Millie Car from Millie Carr Books. Millie has ADHD, three neurodiverse children and is a primary school teacher in Melbourne.

Highlights

- Millie talks about proactively setting up the classroom for neurodiverse learning from day one, let's not wait for something to happen,

let's get ahead of it.

- This is great for diagnosed kids, pre-diagnosis kids or undetected kids by just NOT expecting all kids to act neurotypical.

- Can we cater to multiple diagnosis' with one approach ie. small changes in the classroom can make a big difference.

- Expectations on parents vs expectation on teachers.

- Home work expectations - can we all just do the bare minimum please?

- The changes to inclusion being implemented in Australia.

- Millie talks passionately about creating a culture of accepting all different students, how can we change the culture in schools?

- Teachers need time set aside for professional development for ADHD, ASD and neurodiversities. We can't expect them to just know.

- Jane calls for an overhaul of the education system (yet again).

- Millie discusses the teacher shortage and Jane discusses how it feels to be a parent where it feels the principal is always on the teacher's side.

- Jane loses her shit and gets on the high horse and regrets some of her wording about schooling system and the mental health crisis in our young

people.

- Primary vs secondary education and how inclusion works.

- Millie and Jane discuss how yelling at neurodiverse kids just doesn't work.

- Why have we moved forward with inclusion in the workforce but not in schools?

- Are we getting to a place now that we know the system isn't working but we don't know what to do differently?

- Millie gives advice on how she personally would pick a school for her child, what to look for, what to avoid.

- Millie and Jane discuss private vs public (controversial topics lol)

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Jane is joined by Jasmine Meek - the Bayside Doula who is just about to meet a Psychiatrist to discuss a possible ADHD diagnosis.

Jasmine is married with two kids and is a post partum doula.

ADHD Mum's plans to follow Jasmine through the lead up to the appointment (this episode) plus catch up after the appointment and see if Jasmine is diagnosed with ADHD, then follow along the medication journey.

Highlights

- What led up to Jasmine seeking a diagnosis?

- What was it about Motherhood that impacted her so heavily that she saw herself as possibly having ADHD?

- What steps did Jasmine take to get the referral/psychiatrist appointment and how long did that take?

- How a possible ADHD diagnosis has impacted Jasmine's life - particularly growing up as a child and teenager.

- How self esteem plays a role in her adult life.

- Transitioning from school to uni.

- What Jasmine is preparing in her appointment lead up - how can you really unpack this yourself to get clear

before the psychiatrist appointment

- How can Jasmine be clear on camouflaging in female ADHD and scaffolding with her Psychiatrist.

- How does ADHD effect the relationship with her husband - time blindness.

- Jasmine was diagnosed with anxiety and given medication - 12 months post partum.

- Jasmine and Jane discuss why it is we can't remember what day library is - every single bloody week.

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Jane is joined by Tania Waring, a lawyer and advocate/care coordinator Mum of three neurodiverse boys. Tania has also completed her honours in Psychology and has just applied for a scholarship to begin her doctorate in the use of co-regulation to prevent and minimise meltdowns in the classroom. Tania is very passionate about inclusive education and improving outcomes for children with ADHD and autism.

Highlights

- What is a melt down?

- How is a melt down different to a tantrum?

- What to do in a melt down?

- Parenting styles - what if one parent wants to try an approach to the other?

- What does a melt down feel like for a child?

- Anxiety from the parents - can feel like you are walking on egg shells.

- Can you prevent a melt down and how can you do that?

- Jane shares about her two boys and their melt downs which require the 'replaying.'

- The toll on the parents

- Toll on the siblings and how can we prevent resentment.

- Jane asks the big question - 'Why are we seeing the melt downs happen now, did corporal punishment work before?

Tania shares her final message. 'Have Hope, Be Kind'

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Jane interviews Tamara and Shanelle from Motherhood a Beautiful Nightmare. 

Highlights

- We discuss why women take on the mental load of housework, child care and all household duties even if they have ADHD?

- Should we stage a protest?

 -Tamara wonders whether she should have just let her husband do her daughter's make up for the dance concert?

- Why do we prepare for armageddon if we are going away for the weekend and our husband is taking over?

- Shanelle talks Brene Brown and her speculation that the split will never be 50/50. Each partnership is different.

- Jane recounts how her and her hubby divided up the duties when she went back to work.

- How can we more often ask ourselves questions about why are we feeling frustrated or angry?

- No one talks about self care - that's like giving sip of water to a dehydrated person in the desert. Mum's need way more than a massage one time.

- Jane shares she has previously always felt like she 'fails at therapy' because she couldn't do any of the interventions.

- Tamara and Shanelle don't have ADHD but wonder if we can celebrate the similarities of us all being people and raise awareness of inclusion instead of seeing the differences.

Gottman Method for Couples

https://www.gottman.com/about/the-gottman-method/

You can check MABN out on:

https://motherhoodabeautifulnightmare.com

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Jane interviews Shantelle Poynter (her most regular guest) on self hatred and ADHD.

Highlights

- Why is there self hatred and shame within so many adults with ADHD, particularly those who were late diagnosed?

- If there is a huge amount of undiagnosed women with ADHD out there, are they all walking around with shame, guilt and self hatred

and if that's the case - that might be related to addiction, eating disorders, depression and anxiety.

- Is the opposite of addiction - connection?

- Self hatred and our kids - how can we teach them to value themselves?

- Friendship pyramid theory for our kids, when to share secrets and private information and when not to share.

- Do we put pressure on ourselves to behave like neurotypical people with neurotypical children - Jane took her kids to Australia Zoo in school hols - why did she do that? She backed it up with an orthodontist appointment after that. Is this lack of compassion we feel for ourselves because of self hatred?

- Shantelle discusses how she is setting up her next weekend away completely differently to what she has ever done before and is hoping she will have cracked

the code on how to holiday with kids.

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Jane interviews Michele Toner who has been supporting people with ADHD since 1995 and she was the first ADHD coach ever in Australia in 2003. Michele has now mentored over 100 ADHD coaches and promotes ADHD Awareness. Michele was awarded an OAM in 2021 for her work in ADHD.

Highlights

- How did Michele begin in this industry?

- What training is involved with ADHD coaching?

- How does it differ from Psychologists?

- How do you pick a good ADHD coach?

- Adult diagnosis and that journey and how it relates to ADHD coaching.

- Can the NDIS fund ADHD coaching?

- Sometimes the smallest achievements for ADHD people are really hard. ie. getting to work on time.

- Self esteem and ADHD - ongoing dialogue about what we aren't good at from ourselves and others.

- The validation that someone needs when they are considering going to get a diagnosis

- How can we make the world more inclusive? Jane shares taking her kids to Australia Zoo which ended in security coming

as her 4 x year melted down in the canteen because the customer service person poured his drink into a cup.

- Does parenting cause ADHD or does ADHD make parenting very difficult?

- Michele shares about how it felt receiving an OAM.

- How can we encourage people to be more inclusive?

- Family coaching with an ADHD coaching

- What would Michele say to someone who has just been diagnosed as an adult?

Directory on how to find a ADHD coach as below:

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Are my kids the loudest kids in the world? Or can I just not cope with the noise.

Jane interviews Deanna Reynolds, an ADHD Mum with two children on the Sunshine Coast who is studying to

be a teacher. Deanna was diagnosed with ADHD earlier this year after advocating for herself for years and battling misdiagnosis that she was NOT just 'anxious'

or a 'tired Mum.'

Highlights

- What is sensory overload?

- How does it impact Mothers?

- How does Deanna cope with burnout/sensory overload in her relationship with her husband.

- How has the awareness of Sensory Overload and ADHD impacted the understanding of herself.

- How does Deanna cope with having a small 18 month old child and the constant whinging/talking and crying.

- What strategies can we use to prevent or reduce the sensory overload as it's happening.

- Deanna's severe and debilitating anxiety attacks and how she can prevent them now knowing her diagnosis.

- Deanna is managing severe anxiety attacks with lifestyle changes and preventative measures - she isn't able to receive

medication yet - Jane plans to follow her back up after she receives medication to see if it helps or not.

- The spoon theory - such a great take on ADHD and sensory overload

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Not sure how people can enjoy school holidays?

- Jane talks on the the hit of depression as she rode her bike to the park with her son after 3 + weeks with kids at home.

- The huge melt down her son had at kindy over a ripped painting

- Jane applies to NDIS for funding and goes through adding ADHD as a secondary diagnosis

- Jane talks on how she sees labelling as positive to get NDIS funding and awareness in your parenting even

if you don't communicate it to children.

- What do you do for Grandparents day with no grandparents for kids?

- Jane's experience of Vyvance and how it helps with her anxiety and rage

- Jane's loved Vyvance then lost it about 2 days in

- Jane's last family holiday Noosa and what a disaster that turned out to be.

- Jane didn't actually ask her husband to help with school holidays then was pissed off when he didn't

help out.

- Influenza hit the house and in the recovery phase the ADHD from not doing anything for weeks hit hard

- Jane reaches out and asks for some help, what do you do in your school holidays? What works?

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Jane is back with Dr. Jacinta Thomson with Overwhelmed Mum Syndrome and whether it is real or not?

- What are the key areas that create this?

- How does executive function dysfunction impact this?

--> Jacinta gives a great example on just simply buying 3 x things from supermarket and how that can go wrong

- How does sensory overload create the perfect storm?

- What are some of the tips/strategies that we can use to reduce the impact on ourselves.

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As mums, we want to protect our kids, but when it comes to ADHD or other neurodivergent diagnoses, silence can sometimes send the wrong message. This episode dives into the why behind having this big conversation with your child - why it’s important, how it can shape their self-confidence, and what happens when they don’t have the right information.

If you’ve ever felt unsure about when or how to talk about ADHD with your child - or if you’re worried about labelling them - this episode is for you.

• Why some parents hesitate to disclose a diagnosis and how to overcome this fear.
• The risks of leaving your child in the dark and how they might create their own (often harsh) narrative.
• How empowering your child with knowledge can build their confidence and self-compassion.
• The emotional journey of processing a diagnosis as a parent and finding the right time to talk.

• Episode: How to Tell Your Child About Their Diagnosis - Spotify / Apple
• Episode: Re-release Camouflaging ADHD + Autistic Traits in Girls - Spotify / Apple
• Episode: Stop People-Pleasing - Spotify / Apple
• Recommended Books: Empower your child with relatable stories about ADHD and Autism.
• A Mum’s Guide to Supporting Your Child’s Diagnosis and Helping Others ‘Get It’: HERE

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Jane's back with one of her favourite guests Shantelle to discuss relationships and ADHD.

Shantelle is a neurodiverse Mother of two neurodiverse children who is a nurse in Brisbane.

Highlights include:

-       Knowledge is power – the awareness of diagnosis is so important for ourselves and our children.

-       Shame that we carry in our lives “Stop talking!” “You’re too loud or too much”

-       Why do we people please instead of asking for what we need in relationships.

-       Should we disclose to our children ‘labels’ – does it combat self hatred – is it better for kids to know, would we have preferred to know?

-       Do we people please because we are so grateful to have a friend?

-       Compliance at school = more responsibility at school. But can our girls handle it?

-       If you put extra curricular activites or opportuntiies in front ADHD females/girls we will DO IT but at our own expense. 

-       Are ADHD females so far behind socially that we grow up late, how can we navigate friendship without learning the basics?

-       All the assumed knowledge of social situations that ADHD females are supposed to learn as teenagers but some of us come into marriage or mid 30s still having no idea of how to navigate social situations.

-       Boys get diagnosed more often and earlier so they have more chances to learn to regulate emotions than girls.

-       Do we get so emotional because we can’t regulate our emotions so we cry or yell instead of being assertive?

-       Thrill of new relationships, new jobs – starting again so often! Then we miss the chance to navigate conflict in friendships and partnerships.

-       How do we say no to unreasonable things?

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Jane is joined by Deanna Reynolds, an ADHD Tutor and student teacher. Deanna has ADHD herself, lives on the Sunshine Coast with her husband (teacher) and her two kids. They discuss the difficulties kids face in the classroom when learning the same material as other neurotypical kids.

- The impact the classroom has on self esteem for children.

- The reason people with ADHD share with their own personal stories rather than just listening.

- Irrelevant thoughts in kids, why kids come off as 'unfocused' - when actually their sharing makes complete sense to them and actually shows them

trying to understand.

- How can we create more confidence in our children to ask teachers for help when they don't understand.

- Therapy and ADHD Tutors can be expensive, time consuming and draining. How do we find the best solution for our children?

- What can we do as parents to help our children in the classroom?

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Jane talks about the pressures that parents feel to do many early intervention therapies on their kids, which comes right

at the same time as the diagnosis does. The overwhelm and indecision about what is the best thing to do for your kids

which often comes at the same time as the physical demands on parents are the highest (kids under 7).

- Jane discusses how she spent 50min + with a psychologist to discover she can only see one sibling.

- Jane talks about her experience taking just two kids to the podiatrist and what taking ADHD kids to appointments really looks like.

(Thanks old love in the corner for your judgemental face).

- How can we balance therapies and fun? Our children need and deserve the same opportunity to play sport and relax

- How can we work and drive our children around to these services every day of the week?

- Jane discusses how she engaged a Psychologist to do a parenting plan for each child so she can learn the skills to help her kids

regulate their emotions.

- Jane also talks about getting her 4 year old to sleep in his own bed YES!! Products mentioned are Jett Proof and compression sheets for

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Jane is joined by Tania Waring, a lawyer and advocate/care coordinator mum of three neurodiverse boys. Tania is very experienced in advocacy for her children to get what they need at school. Tania has also completed her honours in Psychology and is passionate about inclusive education and improving outcomes for children in the schooling system. Jane and Tania share personal experiences and highlight the need for more understanding and support from educators, as well as emphasising the importance of normalising these experiences and finding hope through the stories of others who have faced similar challenges. Tania also provides us with an insight into her passion of creating change within the school system to create a more inclusive environment and reduce the impact that schools have on children’s self-esteem. 

*This episode specialises more in the externalising presentation of ADHD/ASD - which is seen more in boys than girls, but can occur in both genders. Where these kids are seen as 'disruptive' or 'problems.' *

Episode Highlights:

Þ   Common challenges faced by families with children who have ADHD and autism

Þ   Pushing through the grief and adjustment required when realising that the school experience may be different from what was imagined

Þ   The lack of accommodations and understanding within the Australian school system

Þ   The detrimental effects of segregating children with learning differences and the perpetuation of negative attitudes towards differences

Þ   Highlighting the issue of gatekeeping and suspensions in schools, especially for children with ADHD and autism

Þ   The pressure and lack of resources on teachers, which can lead to reactive responses and neglecting certain students

Þ   A discussion around schools being focused on managing students rather than providing adequate support, and gathering evidence to justify suspensions and expulsions

Þ   Highlighting how change can occur when and where adults reflect on their actions and hold themselves accountable where appropriate within a child’s meltdown 

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Jane discusses her personal experience with medication and psychiatrists and answers FAQ:

- How do I access medication quickly?

- Should I see a psychologist or a psychiatrist what is the difference?

- I can't get into a psychiatrist - should I see a Telehealth one?

- What is the difference between a Telehealth psychiatrist and an in person one?

- What is this going to cost me?

- Can I get Medicare rebates?

- I have medication but I don't know if its working?

- If I'm hyperactive why would I take a stimulant?

- What medication should I ask for?

**This episode only exists because of the huge waitlist to get into see a psychiatrist and how difficult it is to get reviewed by any

health professional on ADHD medication. This isn't an expert point of view, it is a personal experience, everyone should seek medical advice or see their treating prescribing for their professional opinion when varying their medication**

**www.someone.health/ is a resource you can go to if you need speedy professional opinion**

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A LOT of listeners have been asking for a 'Day in a Life of an ADHD Mum' however I haven't had anyone keen as yet.

I've gone through a few days of my life to shine a light on inattention and how it presents in full families of inattention.

- Jane talks openly about her severe depression in her teenage years and how that has lead to her wanting to raise awareness

about what ADHD looks like in young girls, if they can get the right treatment and medication perhaps it will change the incidence

in suicide in teenage girls.

- Jane talks about a friend's inattention who under pressure couldn't find her keys in a very inopportune moment

- ADHD Mum's have not just a bad day, they have a series of unfortunate events every single day.

- Jane either has 150 tampons or none and then immediately loses the box she just bought.

- We only had eggs to eat and had no gas bottle for 4 days.

- One of my kids lost his hat for the colour run in under 12 hours (10 of those he was asleep).

- Mum guilt and school holidays.

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I was supposed to be interviewing Shantelle but we became instant friends and went OFF TOPIC hardcore.

Part 2 in the Coffee chats with Shantelle- I'd go to Part 1 first.

Topics covered:

- Are ADHD Mum's the WORST at self care? and why is that?

- Who created all the expectations on families to have dinner with their kids every night as a family and how bloody hard is that to do.

- We can create a safe haven for our kids to come home to after experiencing a world unfriendly to neurodivergent people.

- If we had of known about our diagnosis earlier, would we have natured ourselves or squashed ourselves? are we just TOO MUCH?

- Is ADHD hyper focus a super power or is it like a were wolf where it only comes out when the stars align, moon is full, wind is blowing right. The rest of the time ADHD is an absolute pest.

- Is there any group of people that looks after themselves LESS than ADHD Mums?

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I was supposed to be interviewing Shantelle on misdiagnosis but we went OFF TOPIC hardcore. I've kept the audio because it's a rant about Mum life that I have with friends at pick up/drop off.

Topics covered:

- Shantelle's GP was blown aware on her disclosure of the self hatred that comes to ADHD.

- Why is it that when a Mum goes to the GP or seeks help she is just told she has post natal depression

rather than tested for anything else?

- Should we overhaul the Australian education system?

- Why is the process to get medication for ADHD so bloody unfriendly to ADHD people 

- Shantelle's misdiagnosis story and how anti depressants didn't work for her.

- Should we medicate our kids? (Jane and Shantelle's personal opinions)

- Meeting ourselves and our kids where we are at THAT day - not where society thinks we should be

**I wasn't planning on publishing this audio so Shantelle and I have been swearing like sailors throughout

and when thinking about medication you should always consult your treating professional**

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Rose Callaghan, ADHD Ambassador and Australian Comedian - the first person I have interviewed who was diagnosed with ADHD BEFORE getting pregnant. Check out her complex ride as I interview her on:

- Multiple psychiatrist visits to get a muddy answer on meds and pregnancy.

- Multiple psychiatrist visits to get a even muddier answer on meds and breastfeeding.

(But don't worry there's a study on rats and meth)

- How C-sections are the only operation when you are then handed a baby and told to prioritise

that over your own recovery.

- We get feminist on how unfair the gender roles are

- We get agro about misdiagnosis of teenage girls, wrong medication, wrong therapy.

- Rose has been considering doing a podcast for a long time but realises the commitment. Jane realises she probably should have thought about the

commitment before she started hers LOL.

*We both swear and also talk openly about medicating children in our uneducated opinion - any listeners should get medical advice*

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In this episode Jane interviews regular Aussie Mum Jenny on her traumatic past and the complex web of trauma and ADHD. Jenny talks about her past and how she only began exploring it after she became a Mum and how that has impacted her parenting and children. We also discuss Neurofeedback therapy and EMDR therapy.

*This podcast doesn't recommend any types of therapies, we just discuss our experiences - you should always discuss treatment options with your GP*

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Life in a neurodivergent household is full of noise, touch, and constant interruptions. Add the guilt of “not doing enough,” and it’s no wonder so many of us feel burnt out. This episode gives you the tools and validation you need to take care of yourself - because when you’re regulated, everything else gets a little easier.

In this episode, I'm joined by Occupational Therapist and fellow ADHD Mum Rebecca Torpey to unpack what sensory overwhelm really is and how to find relief that works for you.

• S02E37: ADHD, Autism, or Both? Kara’s Story of Burnout and Sensory Overload
• Listen on Apple Podcasts | Listen on Spotify
• ADHD and Autistic Traits in Mums with Dr. Jacinta Thomson [re-release]
• Listen on Apple Podcasts | Listen on Spotify

• Want to know more about Sensory Overload? Visit Rebecca’s website: https://www.sensorysmartkidsot.com/
• Read the blog version of this episode: Here
• Recommended sensory tools: Explore weighted blankets, sensory pods, and other tools to support sensory needs at home.

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Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

ADHD mums, sensory overload, neurodivergent parenting,...

Life feels like I've gotten on a one way rollercoaster to hell half the time and I can't get off. Where's the eject button?

All my life I've been either speeding on a highway or my car is still trapped in the garage. Where's

the balance?

Angie Nennie has ADHD, is a mother of two and a professional ADHD coach we discuss:

- Why is parenting so incredibly bloody boring but also so tiring?

- What ADHD Mum friendly activities you can do with your child and actually have a good time?

- If and how much our children are developmentally behind all the other children

- Are ADHD children just 'harder' than other peoples?

- The surge of diagnosis of ADHD in Mother's and Angie's view on why that is.

- The spoon theory

- Angie's personal experience with burnout and how she turned it around.

- How Angie shares the mental load with her husband.

- What strategies and tools we can use right now to try prevent burnout

If you'd like to work with Angie then please reach out to her here:

(Angie does a complimentary first session) and she is available for NDIS clients as

well as private.

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In this episode Jane and Jenny share their stories advocating for their daughters in the Australian school system. Both in public and private schools. What works, what doesn't and why the system fails our little girls. We cover everything from the over worked teachers under fire from parents, principals and the kids, the ratio of teachers aides in schools and how each school gets a different amount of funding. Is the Australian school system flawed at its core? Jenny talks about her 10 year old girl being given academic awards at school whilst having a complete mental health breakdown at home and how no one believed her it was happening. Thankfully this episode finishes on a positive note that Jenny's daughter has had a full recovery and how Jenny helped her overcome it.

*Trigger warning, Jenny does briefly mention suicide ideation of her daughter* (However there is a happy ending)

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In this episode Jane McFadden interviews Dr. Jacinta Thompson who is a clinical psychologist and has a PhD in clinical neuropsychology. Jacinta speaks about her own experience with misdiagnosis, where she was wrongly diagnosed with narcolepsy when really she had ADHD/ASD. We talk about what services/therapies we can receive in Australia through Medicare/NDIS and private health funds and what you CAN do to help yourself if you are not yet able to receive a diagnosis.

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In this episode Jane McFadden tackles WHY we keep hearing, "Nah, you don't have ADHD," and where masks come into play. Lots of personal examples on masks such as: school pick up, driving and general directions and working in a canteen. If you have have no idea if you've been masking, or what it is and if you have been doing it then this is the episode for you.

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In this solo episode Jane McFadden explores how we as mothers can recognise ADHD in our daughters and help break the stigma that the symptoms only exist in boys. Let's discuss and explore what the symptoms look like and educate those around us. This is the ONLY way to stop the misdiagnosis of females with ADHD from continuing on and to help our girls get the same opportunities for therapy, medication and recognition as the boys. Let's share this episode with our friends and family.

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In this episode Jane McFadden takes her own advice on 'Is ADHD just an excuse?' and deals with a conflict situation by acknowledging her ADHD in a work situation. She then shame spirals through most of the week and struggles to move forward. However ADHD Mum's are nothing but resilient and we will continue on - this episode is to highlight - you are not alone in this. We all feel this, let's break down the stigma and talk about it.

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In this solo episode Jane McFadden talks on the topic "Why do I seem to prioritise the wrong task?' She explores the reasons why our brains will delay, avoid or distract us from making decisions or doing boring but important tasks. Jane also discusses strategies we can use in our daily life to help us make decisions, prioritise and be more productive. Let's drop the negative self talk around this and get started.

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The ADHD MUMS podcast is a safe place where Aussie Mums with relatable stories can discuss their struggles with ADHD, motherhood and life. In this episode Jane McFadden interviews Dr. Jacinta Thomson who is a clinical psychologist and has a PhD in clinical neuropsychology. Jacinta concisely and clearly maps out the pathways available for adults to be diagnosed with ADHD in Australia. Jacinta is also an Australian mother to two children under four years old who has been diagnosed with both ADHD and ASD and speaks from her own perspective as well as a professional one. Jacinta is very passionate about supporting adults from their early stages of querying their neurodivergence to providing formal diagnostic evaluations and reports, and supporting them through strengths-based therapy and coaching programs to pursue their most meaningful lives.  She has a special interest in supporting adults with ADHD and ASD, and especially women and people with more “internalising” or “high-masking” subtypes. 

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The ADHD MUMS podcast is a safe place where Aussie Mums with relatable stories can discuss their struggles with ADHD, motherhood and life. In this episode Jane McFadden talks on the popular topic that is hitting the ADHD Mum's inbox, "Am I just making excuses, or do I really have ADHD?" She explores the myth that ADHD is a set of excuses that people use for their children or for themselves. As well as how ADHD Mums can take back their own power, take responsibility for their symptoms and make changes to live the best life possible.

**Jane also tells half a story about how she almost fostered a cat and its 6 kittens from a local shelter last time she was on holidays as her impulsive brain was bored by not working and spending time with her kids **

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The ADHD MUMS podcast is a safe place where Aussie Mums with relatable stories can discuss their struggles with ADHD, motherhood and life. In this episode Jane McFadden interviews Lucy Holister on how she possibly manages with three children, FIFO husband and her university degree. Key discussion point is if anybody actually understand how much time and energy is exerted between 6-9am and why studying at night time is just not a possibility. When then does Lucy study and how she gets it done - powerhouse house Mum right here!

Feeling like traditional planners just don’t work for your ADHD brain? You’re not alone. This episode dives into why typical systems fail us and how value-aligned planning can help you ditch the guilt, reduce overwhelm, and focus on what really matters.

👉 Grab the ADHD Mums Planner – designed to work with your brain, not against it. It’s packed with tools for task management, guilt-free resets, and value-based planning. Get it here.

Timestamps (approx.)

• 1 min: Why traditional planners don’t work for ADHD mums.
• 3 mins: The moment I realised my values weren’t guiding my decisions.
• 7 mins: How to simplify planning and focus on what truly matters.
• 12 mins: The science behind value-aligned living – and how it boosts happiness.
• 18 mins: Easy strategies for building a flexible, ADHD-friendly planning system.

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Key topics covered in this ep: ADHD mums Value based planning Overcoming overwhelm ADHD friendly planners Flexible planning strategies Prioritising what matters Guilt free resets ADHD mental load Task management for neurodivergent mums Reducing burnout Aligning actions with values Building an ADHD-friendly life Practical planning tips Neurodivergent productivity hacks Balancing family and priorities Simplifying daily routines

In this episode Jane McFadden interviews Lucy Holister on her hyperfocus after having her first child and how she turned this into a large scale business. Whilst hyperfocus can have such positive and negative consequences, this episode is an uplifting and funny listen. 

**I want to acknowledge that I'm still learning how to podcast and edit - so please be patient as each episode I'm learning how best to record to minimise interruption and background noise**

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In this episode Jane McFadden interviews Lucy Holister on her life with several misdiagnosis' until she suspected her child had ADHD and finally got diagnosed. How Lucy balances it all and what strategies she uses to help her with three children and a FIFO husband. We also discuss how we can as Mothers impact the world to be more friendly to those people who are neurodiverse.

**I want to acknowledge that I'm still learning how to podcast and edit - so please be patient as each episode I'm learning how best to record to minimise interruption and background noise**

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The ADHD MUMS podcast is a safe place where real people with real stories can discuss their struggles with ADHD, motherhood and life. In this episode Jane McFadden interviews Katie Underwood on whether the world is ready to accept that women and girls can have ADHD too. Katie discusses her misdiagnosis which took 36 years to be correctly diagnosed with ADHD and what strategies and tools she is using to thrive with ADHD four years on. Jane and Katie also discuss if life would have been different if she was correctly diagnosed earlier. 

**Trigger warning, suicide ideation is briefly mentioned in this episode**

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