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| A Meal of Thorns 48- READY PLAYER ONE with Matthew Leggatt | 20 Apr 2026 | 01:10:39 | |
The pleasures and perils of nostalgia & reference, the importance of identifying real play versus gamified labor, and whether the internet used to be fun: Matthew Leggat of the Utopian & Dystopian Fictions podcast joins to discuss Ernest Cline’s Ready Player One. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 47- CLOUD ATLAS with Abigail Nussbaum | 06 Apr 2026 | 01:10:53 | |
A nested novel that very pointedly bridges the litfic/specfic divide, David Mitchell’s Cloud Atlas takes some big swings at tricky topics. Abigail Nussbaum returns to the podcast with some thoughts on how the novel has aged, and how it’s still relevant to genre thinking today. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 38- VENOMOUS LUMPSUCKER with Cameron Kunzelman | 01 Dec 2025 | 01:23:21 | |
Academic, critic, and prolific podcaster Cameron Kunzelman joins for a far-ranging discussion about how climate fiction, science fiction, and personal and political connections to the environment intersect. Bonus hog sighting. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 37 – THE HISTORIAN with Sean Guynes | 17 Nov 2025 | 01:27:15 | |
Vampire scholar, science fiction studies editor, and ARB co-founder Sean Guynes joins to discuss Kostova’s 2005 historical vampire thriller. We both have fairly negative opinions of the book, but it did lead us to talk about what historical thrillers are (or are not) theorizing, vampire novels we like more, and much else besides. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 36 – UNDER THE EYE OF THE BIG BIRD with Eleanor McAdam | 03 Nov 2025 | 01:04:24 | |
Writer, scholar, and academic organizer E.F. McAdam joins to talk about human evolution & extinction, AI, pseudo-science, and much more in Kawakami’s very strange and really quite funny far-future novel. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 35 – 60 Stories with Timothy Moore | 20 Oct 2025 | 01:24:39 | |
Barthelme’s surreal, post-modern writing was massively influential for the short story market and for evolving conceptions of literary realism and irrealism, but he’s not often discussed in speculative circles. Author & teacher Timothy Moore is on to help rectify that: we dig into some of our favorites from this landmark connection, with lots of spitballing about the limits of interpretation. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 34 – BURNING BRIGHT with Ursula Whitcher | 06 Oct 2025 | 00:53:13 | |
Combining cyberpunk, space opera, and a strong interest in artistic creation and gaming, Burning Bright is an unusual SF novel from a very specific era. Author Ursula Whitcher joins us to talk about the novel’s many strange facets, its fascination with endings, and its connections to developments elsewhere in gaming and science fiction. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 33 – THE FIFTH SEASON with Joy Sanchez-Taylor | 23 Sep 2025 | 01:03:57 | |
Fresh off the release of her book Diverse Futures: Science Fiction and Author of Color, Joy Sanchez-Taylor joins the podcast to discuss Jemisin’s The Fifth Season, a landmark book in SFF. Lots to talk about here: in terms of how the entire trilogy is tackling ideas about race and oppression, Jemisin’s approach to structure and genre categories, and The Fifth Season’s significance and ongoing legacy. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 32 – AUTHORITY with Zachary Gillan | 08 Sep 2025 | 01:10:47 | |
Picking the second book as an entry point into Area X, weird scholar and normal ARB editor Zachary Gillan is on the pod to talk about Jeff VanderMeer’s work and how the New Weird is more than just ecological anxiety. (Though it might be that, too.) Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 31 – Seattle Worldcon | 25 Aug 2025 | 01:14:25 | |
Casella heads to Seattle for the World Science Fiction Convention, reporting on his travels and the convention. Includes interviews with Worldcon guests & conrunners, thoughts on the Hugos and the event, and, of course, a quick coffee report. Credits:
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| A Meal of Thorns 30 – STONE OF FAREWELL with Karlo Yeager Rodríguez | 11 Aug 2025 | 01:14:23 | |
Tad Williams’ Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn is a literally giant work that’s an exemplar of the chain-bookstore and mass-market epic fantasy boom. Author, editor, and critic Karlo Yeager Rodríguez joins to talk about the trilogy’s second entry, Stone of Farewell: its position within and influence upon the genre, and how it holds up. Credits:
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| A Meal of Thorns 29 – Readercon & Lovestruck | 28 Jul 2025 | 00:52:11 | |
Casella heads to Readercon, a Boston-based science fiction convention that’s unusually good at keeping the focus literary. This episode includes an interview with one of the conrunners, a discussion of translated SFF and the Translated Hugo Initiative, and a visit with a new romance bookstore in Cambridge. Some quick coffee reporting, as well. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon! Credits:
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| A Meal of Thorns 46- THE BIG SLEEP with Max Gladstone | 23 Mar 2026 | 01:01:26 | |
We’re leaving speculative genres for just a moment! Author Max Gladstone joins to discuss style & structure in Raymond Chandler’s hardboiled classic The Big Sleep, a work that’s been massively influential across SFF literature, games, & film. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 28 – EXCESSION with Abigail Nussbaum | 14 Jul 2025 | 01:08:43 | |
Banks’ Culture novels, about a utopian space-faring civilization, are hugely influential in both SF literature and the tech industry. Award-winning critic Abigail Nussbaum joins us to discuss Excession, a Culture novel about proxy conflicts and interventionist politics, existential threats, and…problematic exes? Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon! Credits:
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| A Meal of Thorns 27 – 40,000 IN GEHENNA with Arkady Martine (and a 4th Street Fantasy Report) | 30 Jun 2025 | 01:20:47 | |
Cherryh’s influence on speculative fiction is vast but, some would say, under-acknowledged. Author Arkady Martine joins to help rectify that situation, with a discussion of 40,000 in Gehenna, an anthropological, generational science fiction story about realpolitik, language, cloning, giant intelligent lizards, and gender—and that’s kind of just the top notes. Casella also provides a mini-report on Minneapolis’s 4th Street Fantasy Convention. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon! Credits:
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| A Meal of Thorns 26 – DEATH OF THE AUTHOR with andré m. carrington | 16 Jun 2025 | 01:14:06 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 25 – THE HUGO NOVELS & NOVELLAS with Roseanna Pendlebury | 02 Jun 2025 | 01:27:46 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 24 – THE LOST BOOK OF ADANA MOREAU with Maia Gil′Adí | 19 May 2025 | 01:00:59 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 23 – DREAMS OF AMPUTATION with Sean McTiernan | 05 May 2025 | 01:06:18 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 22 – THE TERRA IS A FORMER MISTRESS with Christian P. Haines | 21 Apr 2025 | 01:29:49 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 21 – LUD-IN-THE-MIST with Marita Arvaniti | 07 Apr 2025 | 01:21:14 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 20 – AMONG OTHERS with Archita Mittra | 24 Mar 2025 | 00:57:02 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 19 – HEIR TO THE EMPIRE with Dan Hartland | 10 Mar 2025 | 01:22:36 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 45- THE DEEP SEA DIVER’S SYNDROME with Alexander Dickow | 09 Mar 2026 | 01:03:30 | |
In this science fiction novel, translated from the French, dreamers “dive” into their own subconscious and return with mysterious & valuable objects. Translator, author, & scholar Alexander Dickow joins to discuss Francophone SF, weird fiction, and artistic allegories & analogies. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 18 – THE SILMARILLION with Eden Kupermintz | 24 Feb 2025 | 01:19:17 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 17 – FIRE LOGIC with Benjamin Rosenbaum | 10 Feb 2025 | 01:22:52 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 16 – AURORA with Hilary Strang | 27 Jan 2025 | 01:22:39 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 15 – MISTRESS OF MISTRESSES with Jared Pechaček | 13 Jan 2025 | 01:11:12 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 14 – 2024 Wrap-Up with Roseanna Pendlebury | 30 Dec 2024 | 01:39:26 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 13 – THE THIS with Anna McFarlane | 16 Dec 2024 | 01:16:00 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 12 – MELMOTH with Jon Greenaway | 02 Dec 2024 | 01:06:08 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 11 – THE BALLAD OF BLACK TOM with Garrett Bridger Gilmore | 18 Nov 2024 | 01:11:16 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 10 – TAINARON with Shinjini Dey | 04 Nov 2024 | 01:09:19 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 09 – PATTERN RECOGNITION with Sunny Moraine | 21 Oct 2024 | 01:13:05 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 44- PALADIN OF SOULS with Liz Bourke | 23 Feb 2026 | 01:08:18 | |
Reviewer and historian Liz Bourke joins to discuss religion, historical overlaps, and examinations of gender in Paladin of Souls and fantasy more generally. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 08 – GILDED NEEDLES with Juan Martinez | 07 Oct 2024 | 01:04:01 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 07 – THE TRAITOR BARU CORMORANT with Amal El-Mohtar | 23 Sep 2024 | 01:08:39 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 06 – THE PASSION with Dan Hartland | 09 Sep 2024 | 01:13:48 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 05 – THE EMPLOYEES with A.V. Marraccini | 26 Aug 2024 | 00:54:35 | |
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| A Meal of Thorns 04 – PERELANDRA with Taylor Driggers | 12 Aug 2024 | 01:13:24 | |
Taylor Driggers joins us to talk about the second volume in C.S. Lewis's SPACE TRILOGY. A richly-described and philosophical science fiction story, PERELANDRA has a lot that's interesting and a lot that's pretty weird when you think about it. A Meal of Thorns is a podcast from the Ancillary Review of Books. Credits:
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| A Meal of Thorns 03 – PIRANESI with Misha Grifka Wander | 29 Jul 2024 | 01:17:37 | |
Ancillary Review editors Jake Casella Brookins and Misha Grifka Wander discuss Susanna Clarke's PIRANESI: epistolary realism and the novel, numinous personhood, and glimpses of utopia in rejecting capitalist expectations. A Meal of Thorns is a podcast from the Ancillary Review of Books. Credits: Guest: Misha Grifka Wander Title: Piranesi by Susanna Clarke Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia Artwork by Rob Patterson Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough References:
Contact RSS feed | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | +lots of other platforms (let us know if it’s not on your favorite) You can follow A Meal of Thorns on Twitter and Bluesky. Email us at mealofthorns@gmail.com. Support the Show! You can support the podcast (and the Ancillary Review of Books) by joining our Patreon. For $5 and up, you get access to ARB’s exclusive monthly newsletter, our Discord community, and more to come. Interested in purchasing a book we mentioned on the show? Check the show notes for Bookshop links; we get a cut if you buy them through our Bookshop! It seems small, but it really does help: like and share our posts! Leave a comment or review wherever you find us. The internet’s kind of broken, but that kind of thing really does help people hear about the work we’re doing. | |||
| A Meal of Thorns 02 – DEAD COLLECTIONS with Roseanna Pendlebury | 15 Jul 2024 | 01:03:41 | |
Host Jake Casella Brookins talks to critic Roseanna Pendlebury about Isaac Fellman's DEAD COLLECTIONS (a novel about a trans vampire archivist) and how it addresses grief, portrayals of bodies and identities over time, fanfic and low-budget television, and the place of more experimental fiction in genre publishing.
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| A Meal of Thorns 01 – THE SCAR with Dan Hartland | 01 Jul 2024 | 01:20:26 | |
For the very first episode, host Jake Casella Brookins talks to Dan Hartland, critic and reviews editor, about China Miéville's novel THE SCAR, the genre of the New Weird, and many related works and ideas.
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| A Meal of Thorns 43- DIASPORA with Eden Kupermintz | 09 Feb 2026 | 01:13:22 | |
Greg Egan’s work exemplifies a certain kind of “hard” science fiction: not that it’s obsessed with big manly space battles, but rather that it’s using science to really dig into some complicated subjects. Eden Kupermintz, of Death // Sentence and many other cool projects, joins to discuss the scope and the scale, philosophy and physics in Diaspora.
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| A Meal of Thorns 42- IMARO with Jon Tattrie | 26 Jan 2026 | 01:07:59 | |
Charles Saunders’ sword and soul narratives, pulp-fantasy-inspired tales of Black and African heroes, helped blaze a trail for the genre—but, like Saunders himself, they have a complicated and still-developing story. Jon Tattrie, author of the newly-released Saunders biography, To Leave A Warrior Behind, joins us to talk about the foundational novel Imaro: its themes, its history, and its legacy. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 41- THE BEETLE with Marisa Mercurio | 12 Jan 2026 | 01:06:39 | |
If you read Dracula and thought: “I like the ancient shapeshifting nemesis and the homoerotic subtext, but I don’t like how subtle the sexual and national anxieties are,” you’re in luck! Editor, reviewer, and scholar Marisa Mercurio is here to talk about not-so-subtle horrors in Richard Marsh’s 1897 novel The Beetle. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 40- 2025 Wrap-Up with Dan Hartland | 29 Dec 2025 | 01:10:59 | |
We’re closing out this strange year with a “big-picture” episode: editor & critic Dan Hartland is on to talk about trends and directions—or lack thereof—in recent speculative fiction. We talk about the interesting spread of books & awards this year, do some armchair speculating about genre shifts & their accompanying arguments, and have some very insider-baseball discussion of what gets reviewed (or not) and why. And, of course, Dan and Casella talk about their favorite reads from 2025. Podcasts, reviews, interviews, essays, and more at the Ancillary Review of Books. Please consider supporting ARB’s Patreon!
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| A Meal of Thorns 39- THE SECRET HISTORY with Roseanna Pendlebury | 15 Dec 2025 | 01:25:51 | |
We’re tracking down the wellspring of “dark academia” in Donna Tartt’s The Secret History, and plucking on threads that stretch out to current fantasy and science fiction literature, with reviewer Roseanna Pendlebury as our guide. Casella manages to throw some shade at Arrival, somehow, and also references Dumb & Dumber.
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