A podcast for Professional Pilots, by Professional Pilots. Join hosts Dylan and Max, both professional pilots with backgrounds in Flight Instructing, Airlines, and Business Aviation, on their quest to improve as travelers, pilots, and professionals. Expect to find interesting conversations with industry experts in a variety of aviation fields, thought-provoking discussions on hot topics, and hilarious stories from the (sometimes) wild aviation industry.
Whether you're corporate, airline, charter, or anywhere in between, you'll love our fresh and often funny take on all things aviation.
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137. What Should Pilots Do with Election-Year Market Jitters?
Épisode 137
mardi 3 septembre 2024 • Durée 37:27
In this episode, Dylan and Max sit down with financial guru Timothy P. Pope to navigate the complexities of financial planning for pilots. From managing retirement funds during an election year to deciding whether to pay back a hefty retention bonus, Tim offers sage advice tailored to the unique needs of aviation professionals. If you've ever wondered how to make the most of your airline's financial programs or whether to stay the course in a volatile market, this episode is a must-listen.
Show Notes
0:00 Intro
3:08 Handling Election Years
9:17 Unexpected Stalls & Other Situations
18:23 Bonuses
23:26 Discretionary Income
29:36 OBAP
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
136. The Misadventures of Max plus Mailbag and Flight Advice
Épisode 136
mardi 20 août 2024 • Durée 54:23
They guys catch up on their latest adventures. Book Club: Hard Landing Chapter 7. In this episode's mailbag, they discuss listener feedback on braking roll-aboards and tough non-rev adventures. Finally, in Flight Advice, they dig into the dilemma of choosing between a tough commute at a struggling ULCC or trying out the cargo life, all while aiming for that elusive legacy carrier job.
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit to learn more!
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127. How can I get airline like benefits as a BizAv Pilot?
Épisode 127
mardi 14 mai 2024 • Durée 01:12:08
Dylan and Max are joined by Whitney Bohac and Dave Retnam, co-founders of Crewise, a company designed to bring airline-style HR and support services to business aviation. Whitney and Dave, both with extensive backgrounds at Southwest Airlines, discuss the genesis and mission of Crewise, emphasizing the need for robust support systems in business aviation similar to those available in commercial airlines. They cover various services provided by Crewise, including professional standards, conflict resolution, and mental health support, all tailored to meet the unique needs of business aviation. This conversation offers invaluable insights into enhancing operational safety and personnel retention within the sector.
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
126. Mailbag Insights: Listener Stories & Flying Wisdom + Should a Junior Spirit FO Bail?
Épisode 126
mardi 7 mai 2024 • Durée 01:01:50
Max recounts the complications following his seemingly routine knee surgery, underscoring the precarious nature of pilot health and the implications on flying careers. We cover chapter 2 of Hard Landing for the book club segment plus an actual hard landing of a 747 at LAX. Mailbag: Luggage Review Update, Allegiant Pilot Perspective, and life of a fractional pilot. Flight Advice: Junior FO at Spririt wonders if he should stay or go?
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124. How Much Turbine Time Do You Really Need? Mailbag+Flight Advice
Épisode 124
mardi 23 avril 2024 • Durée 53:05
The guys dive into the intricacies and amusing challenges of aircraft lighting protocols. They humorously recount instances of "light shaming". We discuss chapter one of Hard Landing for the book club. In the mailbag segment topics range from the importance of different types of flying experience, to the impact of personal decisions and career changes post-furloughs. They highlight stories from pilots who have navigated the challenges of layoffs, transitions between airlines, and shifts into corporate flying, emphasizing resilience and adaptability in the aviation industry. Flight Advice: Phoenix-based commercial pilot seeking advice on how to best prepare for a future career with airlines or companies like NetJets.
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
123. The Furlough Flute returns, is more trouble ahead? w/ James Onieal
Épisode 123
mardi 16 avril 2024 • Durée 58:57
James Onieal joins us to unpack the rollercoaster of recent airline developments—from unexpected furlough announcements to hiring surges at major carriers like UPS. We explore the emotional and professional impacts of such turbulent times on pilots, emphasizing the critical importance of resilience and strategic career planning.
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
122. Straight Talk with Ted: Flying the Widebodies
Épisode 122
mardi 9 avril 2024 • Durée 01:13:45
They guys check in with their college buddy Ted to get the real story on what it's like to fly the 787. Plus: Mailbag and Flight Advice
Show Notes
0:00 Intro & Updates
7:53 Hard Landing Book Club
14:29 Straight Talk With Ted
23:19 Trip Scheduling & Crew Positions
44:49 Listener Reviews
48:21 Mailbag: Audio / Non Rev / 141 Program / Tim Pope
1:02:45 Flight Advice: Pilot Job Regardless of Salary
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
121. How do I navigate the significant financial implications of my new airline contract?
Épisode 121
mardi 2 avril 2024 • Durée 36:28
Timothy P. Pope, CFP, joins the guys to discuss the significant financial implications of the new Southwest Airlines contract for pilots, focusing on pay raises, bonuses, and enhanced retirement contributions. Pope emphasizes strategic financial planning to navigate these changes, including tax considerations and the benefits of market-based cash balance plans. The conversation highlights Tim's expertise in financial planning for pilots, offering practical advice for maximizing financial well-being in light of the contract updates.
Show Notes
3:35 Southwest's Ratification Bonus & Other Changes
10:28 Preparing Clients for the Future
16:59 Market-Based Cash Balance Plan
20:44 Disability Benefits
27:32 Imputed Income
29:45 Final Takeaways
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
120. PJP Drama, Non-Rev adventures, and Internship Strategies
Épisode 120
mardi 26 mars 2024 • Durée 59:43
The guys recap their vacations and Max talks about playing the non-rev game // The latest PJP drama (recorded prior to the release of JC's rebuttal video) // We've both performed go-arounds recently, Dylan and Max both reflect // Mailbag: Clarity Aloft vs. Bose Proflight, More jumpseat headset observations, EVTOL thoughts // Flight Advice: #1 - College student asks for advice on applying for internships. #2 - Should I sign a training contract in a cadet program?
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast:
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
119. What's Next for Aviation? Unpacking EVOTL Technology with Billy Nolen
Épisode 119
mardi 12 mars 2024 • Durée 01:04:39
Billy Nolen, Chief Safety Officer for Archer and former FAA Administrator, joins us to update us on the EVTOL space. Billy gets us up to speed on the latest regulator news as well as technology EVTOLs are operating. We ask Billy everyone's burning question: will I be able to fly one with my fixed wing certificate?
5:06 EVTOLs & Time Savings 12:28 Training, Certification, Integration 21:48 Manufacturing & Ease of Use 31:43 Safety, Design & Cost 50:01 Creating Change: Pilot Mental Health 55:03 Mandatory Retirement Age
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit to learn more!
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?" VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. |
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Click Here to Schedule a Meeting
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
Do you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us info@21fivepodcast.com Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
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