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071_Benjamin Taylor: Differentiation, Integration and Four Dynamics of Groups05 Feb 202500:41:59

Benjamin Taylor makes his third appearance in the Swamp and he brings some useful distinctions with him. We discuss the value and importance of understanding the positive and negative dynamics that differentiation and integration have on group dynamics and productivity. But it is not all that simple. There are at least four dynamics at play at any time in your work groups. Benjamin maps these group dynamics and shares moves that you can make to lead, manage and facilitate more effective group-work outcomes.

Benjamin’s Links

Benjamin Taylor LinkedIN post

Benjamin Taylor’s Medium Page

https://antlerboy.com/ 

Barry Oshry: Power and Systems

Sandra Janoff: Future Search

Safford Beer

Benjamin 10000 SwampLeaders Episode 21

Benjamin Taylor 10000 SwampLeaders Episode 39


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070_Joanne Murphy & Keith Grint: The Demanding Craft of Leading22 Jan 202500:55:44

Joanne Murphy and Keith Grint come to the swamp to discuss their views on leadership and the effort required to do it well. Joanne and Keith are deeply informed on this topic of leading. Their academic background includes teaching, research and writing. We discuss the differences between command, management and leadership. All three approaches matter and we explore the value of each role. The state of the world calls for more people with the stamina to lead. In this episode, stamina will be supported with craft.

Links

Joanne’s Links

Joanne’s Book: Management and War: How Organisations Navigate Conflict and Build Peace’ 

University of Birmingham

 Joanne’s Website

Public Service Podcast

The Leadership Challenge of Northern Ireland

Twitter - @changeresearch

10000 SwampLeaders Joanne Murphy Podcast (Episode)



Keith’s Links

Bio

LinkedIn

keith.grint@wbs.ac.uk

New Blog: ILA Blog article: Care-Full Leadership: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/care-full-leadership/ 


New Articles:

“Closing ranks: Leadership and the mundanization of the extraordinary in military history” Leadership https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241238811 

WhatsApp to Sunak’ Leadership (2024) https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241240598 

 

New Books:

A Cartography of Resistance: Leadership, Management & Command 

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-cartography-of-resistance-9780198921745?lang=en&cc=gb  

Mutiny & Leadership https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=grint+mutiny&cc=gb&lang=en 

Leadership: Limits and Possibilities 2nd ed. (with Owain Smolovic Jones) https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/leadership-9781350333130/ 


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061_ Geoff Mead: Narrative Identity25 Mar 202400:56:28

Geoff Mead joins us in the Swamp to explore the significance of the stories we tell ourselves, the narratives we use to guide our life and how they shape our identity.

Geoff is the founding director of Narrative Leadership Associates, a consultancy focused on the use of storytelling for sustainable leadership. He is a master guide in the emerging field of narrative leadership and storytelling in organizations. He will share some stories and offer us guidance on how we can adapt our narrative to support the life we seek to live.

 

Geoff’s Links

Personal Blog.  www.cominghometostory.com

Centre for Narrative Leadership (not for profit) www.narrativeleadership.org

Narrative Leadership Associates (business) www.narrativeleadership.com


Geoff’s Books

Coming Home to Story

Telling the Story: The Heart and Soul of Successful Leadership

Gone in the Morning


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060_Janie Ekberg: Camp Siberia and the life altering power of leading from the heart.06 Mar 202400:45:50

060_Janie Ekberg comes to the Swamp to share her stories of leading across multiple social impact projects. Her story is personal for me because she found a way to mobilize me and get me involved in Camp Siberia and in so doing, change my life and perspective on what it takes to lead without authority.  Janie has also changed the trajectory of  hundreds of other people in her community and around the world. She comes to share her stories of leading, her insights on how to foster a movement and how serving the common good turns is the best work we can experience. 

Links

Island Treasure

BI Theater

Camp Siberia Story

Camp Siberia YouTube

Bainbridge Performing Arts

Bainbridge Island Volunteer Caregivers


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059_Natalie Trotta: Community Building Through Wellness21 Feb 202400:45:47

Natalie Trotta comes to the Swamp to share her decision to alter her career trajectory and lead herself in the pursuit of building a wellness community. Natalie’s journey is important because she highlights that leading is always a choice and it can come from anyone and at any time. Natalie models  that leading has nothing to do with age or “life experience.” She has made a commitment to use herself to help others while she figures out the small details. Natalie understands that the next steps are revealed only when one has begun walking the path.

Natalie’s Links

Andiamo Substack

LinkedIn


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058_Maxime Fern & Michael Johnstone: Provocation as Leadership06 Feb 202400:52:15

Maxime Fern and Michael Johnstone are at the forefront of taking Adaptive Leadership out of academia and into boardrooms and learning spaces around the world. They come to the swamp to share their great book Provocation as Leadership: A roadmap for Adaptation and Change. Maxime and Michael have been working in family and organizational systems for most of their careers. They believe provocations are both necessary and helpful to building healthy groups. We discuss what makes up useful provocation, why it matters and they provide coaching on how to begin this important work.  Our conversation just might provoke some new ideas and approaches for you in your work and life.

Links

Vantage Point Consulting

Provocation as Leadership book

Michael’s LinkedIN



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057_Lianne Morgan: A Gardener of Mindfulness30 Jan 202400:47:42

Lianne Morgan comes to the Swamp and shares her thoughts on the value of following a mindfulness practice. Lianne is a role model for us all. She has a long history of navigating life as a corporate leader. Long enough to know when it’s time to depart and how to make that transition. Today Lianne is a mindfulness coach. She offers wisdom in this episode on how to design a practice of mindfulness, the value of following that practice and how to use your body as a medium for learning and growth.

Lianne's Links

Lianne Morgan Website


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056_Ellen Schall: A Reflective Practitioner’s Journey16 Jan 202400:43:57

Ellen Schall of New York University comes to the Swamp and shares her wisdom on how to develop a leadership reflective practice. Ellen’s journey began when she worked in New York City starting as a Legal Aid Society attorney. She moved to New York University in 1992 and it is still her home. She taught the Leadership course: Reflective Practice: Learning from Work.

 Ellen shares her thoughts on the importance of distinguishing role from self, how to develop a self-reflection practice, her definition of leading and the deep value that comes from working on the front line of public service. Ellen is a wisdom sharer. Your time listening to Ellen will deepen your capacity to use yourself to lead. But will mean you will need to develop and follow your own Reflective Leadership Practice. She will help you with that work.

Ellen’s Links

Ellen Schall: NYU Wagner 

A Reflective Practitioner Journey paper

Learning to Love the Swamp: Reshaping Education for Public Service paper

Leadership Reflections New Book

Ellen Schall Experience Fund

Ellen Schall Harvard Kennedy School Case






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055_Tracey Camilleri & Samatha Rockey: The Social Brain - The Psychology of Successful Groups04 Jan 202400:52:51

Tracey Camilleri and Samatha Rockey come to the Swamp and bring a treasure trove of research based thinking that leverages both the art and science necessary for building successful groups. They share their recommendations from their new book: The Social Brain: The Psychology of Successful Groups. We discuss  the Dunbar Number, the value creation that comes from investing time and energy in  fostering belonging and forming bonds that lead to bigger results. Samatha and Tracey are committed optimists who are using their research and writing to help organizations today and foster better working environments for future generations.

Links

Tracey’s LinkedIn

Samantha’s LinkedIn

Thompson Harrison

Their Book: The Social Brain



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054_Martin Thomas & Mick Yates: Artistry and Passion as the impetus for impact29 Nov 202300:51:13

Martin Thomas and Mick Yates, two friends I admire, come to the Swamp to share their encore stories and second acts. Both men returned to university late in their professional careers and that decision changed the trajectory of their lives, the focus of their commitments and how they have chosen to make a difference as they conjure up second acts and most likely, third and forth acts.  All of us will learn a few things about how to design a life well lived.

Links

Martin Thomas

LinkedIn

Call4Change

Multicapital Scorecard 


Mick Yates

LinkedIn

Mick Yates Photography 

Photo|Frome



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053_Nick Conigrave: Leadership bricolage that builds capacity to flourish16 Nov 202300:42:15

Episode 053_  Nick Conigrave brings to the swamp his marriage of deep leadership study with the pragmatism needed to help people build their capacity to lead for greater impact. You will hear Nick’s passion for helping people as he shares the range of approaches he uses to construct leadership programmes and coaching strategies that are useful to all. Nick is a true  bricolage of leadership development.

Nick’s Links

LinkedIn profile

6 Team Conditions

Leadership as a learning activity

Leading Systems towards transformative learning



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052_Joanne Flinn: A Sustainability “Guide” for Company Directors18 Oct 202300:40:47

Episode 052_ Joanne Flinn visits the swamp to discuss how company directors can integrate the environmental, social and governance agenda inside their organization and thrive. Joanne is the Chair of ESG Institute and the author of Greensight: The Sustainability Guide for Company Directors. She discusses the challenges of the ESG agenda as well as ideas for implementation. 

Joanne’s Links

LinkedIn

Book

ESG Institute


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069_Bill Sharpe: Three Horizons: The Patterns of Hope30 Oct 202400:45:27

Three Horizons: The Patterning of Hope 

Bill Sharpe visits the swamp and brings his Three Horizon framework for navigating the future. Bill is an independent researcher who helps people work together to create transformational change in the face of an uncertain future. Bill will explain what makes each of the three horizons distinct and necessary for addressing the future. The beauty and significance of the Three Horizon framework is the simplicity of understanding and its ease of use. Bill will explain it all and then you can get to work sorting your own Three Horizons.

Links


Three Horizons book, and short video introductions by Kate Raworth and Nigel Topping

The Three Horizons framework explained by Bill Sharpe

www.h3uni.org/resource-library/

Three Horizons

For Three Horizons resources, visit: https://futurestewards.com/3h-practice-resources/

To contact the home of the Three Horizons Hub, Future Stewards, send a message via the LinkedIn page

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051_Tom Tyner: The Sacred Trust of Public Land10 Oct 202300:44:37

Episode 051_ Tom Tyner comes to the swamp to share his decision to help preserve public lands for future generations. He shares his decision to leave his position as legal counsel to a global bank, move his family from San Francisco to the Seattle area and dedicate his time and expertise to secure parklands, forests, range land and wilderness for future generations. Tom’s a humorist guy so he holds our interest as he shares his lessons and his wisdom on life and leading. Tommy, the trees, the habitat and all of us thank you.

Tom's Links

Trust For Public Lands

Tom's LinkedIn Profile


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050_Anne-Fleur Goll: Every cog drives the system and you can be one27 Sep 202300:53:37

Anne-Fleur Goll joins me to share her story of a call to action on climate change that started small and then suddenly it was big and global. Anne-Fleur balances being a climate consultant on the Deloitte Sustainability team with her climate activism. She has learned a few things on how to create and sustain a movement as well as how to manage and balance these dual roles and take care of herself. 

Anne's Links

LinkedIn

HEC Speech

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049_Karin Zastrow - Direct Leadership: The potency of leading by "doing"20 Sep 202300:47:06

Karin Zastrow comes to the Swamp and she arrives with over twenty years of first hand experience working as a leader. Our conversation starts when Karin is tasked with designing her organization’s leadership development strategy. Without a budget. Immediately we come to understand that her unique combination of persistence, curiosity, and action is ideally suited for this challenge. Her hard work leads to the development of Direct Leadership. Karin details how she discovered the power of leading by doing and what it takes to master this leadership capacity. Karin has been teaching, coaching and facilitating Direct Leadership work for over 20 years. She is not resting. Just ahead are new enhancements to her approach to leading. Take a listen.

Karin’s Links 

Karin LinkedIn

Direct Leadership

Direct Leadership Training Information 



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048_ Joe Badman: The magic of Public Service13 Sep 202300:48:10

Joe Badman joins me in the swamp to share his passion for working with public service individuals and teams. Joe discovered early in his career that he was quite good at helping teams collaborate and solve messy problems. Through this work, he unearthed his passion to help improve people’s  lives. We all rely on our local governments to deliver high quality services.  Joe and his team help organizations build the capacity to both perform at a higher level and be more self-reliant in the process. We all win with this outcome.  Joe understands that there is magic in helping people.

He would know since he is also a magician.

Joe's Links

Basis

LinkedIn

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047_Nyuon William: Born in Civil War, Raised for Peace and Justice06 Sep 202300:43:12

Nyuon William is an accomplished lawyer and advocate for peace, gender equality and human rights. She joins us to share her journey growing up in the midst of Sudan’s civil war, being raised by parents who advocated and supported her education and her development path to becoming a lawyer. 

Her specialization includes reforms for women’s equality, as well as the youth, peace and security agenda. As a lawyer, Nyuon is a role model for women both inside her country and around the world. She uses her legal expertise in support of  the movement for equal rights and fair treatment of youth and especially young women. Nyuon’s humility and gentle manor disguise a woman of great resolve and commitment to reforming her country for the common good of everyone. 

Nyuon is the National Director of the National Alliance of Women Lawyers (NAWL), which is dedicated to promoting and protecting the rights of women and girls.

Nyuon’s Links

LinkedIn

Seeds of Hope and Action

National Alliance of Women Lawyers


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046 Jerilyn Brusseau: Peace Trees Vietnam and the courage to heal from loss.30 Aug 202300:47:39

Jerilyn Brusseau offers evidence that one woman, with a vision to heal can change the lives of thousands of people. Her story begins with heartbreak when she learns that her brother, Dan Cheney, was shot down and killed in Vietnam just 15 days after he arrived in the country. In that moment, Jerilyn joined nearly 60,000 other American families who lost family members in a war that would last almost 20 years. Almost immediately Jerilyn understood that there were also Vietnamese families suffering equal heartache from losing loved ones. 

So began Peace Trees Vietnam.

In our conversation, Jerilyn takes us on a good will journey from Seattle to Vietnam to heal relationships and clear over 1500 acres of more than 115,000 unexploded bombs, land mines, mortar shells and grenades and replace all that ordinance with trees of peace.

But there is more. The Peace Trees Vietnam organization has facilitated the building of kindergartens, libraries and community centers. Probably more important, Jerilyn and her team have helped heal the damaged relationships between two countries through simple acts of kindness and community building. Jerilyn offers much for us to learn about what is possible when deep loss is turned into helping other people. 

Peace Trees Vietnam





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045 Larai Diana Gwani: "I am a force to be reckoned with"31 May 202300:41:48

Larai Diana Gwani comes to the swamp and shared the challenges and successes she has produced in her role as a government official in the Kaduna State Legislature. She has spent  her life living and working inside a patriarchal culture.  She has learned how to use herself to lead inside this difficult environment. She is fighter and advocate for gender & social inclusion as well as citizen stakeholder engagement.

Larai is a mentor and role model for the next generations of women leaders emerging in Kaduna state government. She mixes compassion, truth and tough love candor to help others develop their capacity to lead themselves and other people.

Larai's Links

Larai LinkedIn

ARISE

Empowering Women for Excellence Initiative

Kaduna State Government




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044 Deborah Jones: Community Leadership Takes a Community24 May 202300:40:59

Deborah Jones comes to the Swamp and shares what it took to build the Community Leadership Programme and the Violence Reduction Network in Leicester, England. She describes how the commitment of Leicester’s diverse network of leaders has fostered a culture of leadership practice and produced an enhanced impact that benefits their city and county. And they all seem to be having a great time supporting each other on their learning journey.

Debbie’s Links:

Jones Consulting

LinkedIn

www.violencereductionnetwork.co.uk 

VRN Community Leadership Video

Community Leadership Showcase

Jones Consulting Part 2


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043 Meg Zeenat Wamithi: What keeps me going is 13 year old Meg17 May 202300:43:56

Meg Zeenat Wamithi comes to the swamp to share how the work of her organization, Mindmapper, is helping youth to learn how to take care of their bodies, minds & bank accounts, engage in meaningful relationships and take part in work experience opportunities in their local communities. 

Meg is candid about the mental health challenges she faced and she tells us how the network she is building plans to support young people to learn how to take care of themselves.

Meg’s Links:

Meg’s Speaker Page

Mindmapper

LinkedIn

Women of Influence UK



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042 Cecile Demailly: A Guide to Thriving as a Middle Manager10 May 202300:42:45

Cecile Demailly comes to the Swamp to share insights from her book “The Middle Manager’s Survival Guide.” Cecile spent almost twenty years as one of those “middles” in global organizations. She brings her lessons learned from that world and adds fifteen years of experience helping the middle manager community as a consultant. Her ideas are practical, accessible and can be used for managing in the business world and as well as the world of life, family and community. 


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Cecile’s Book


Cecile’s LinkedIn 


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068_Elvis Fraser: Advancing Social Justice and Equity through MLE07 Aug 202400:51:06

Elvis Fraser comes to the Swamp to share his commitment to helping non-profit organizations realize greater measurable results from their social impact investments through wise monitoring, learning and evaluation strategies.

He and his Sanfoka Consulting team align their strategies to advance social justice and equity in all aspects of their work. Elvis has a rich history of leading and mentoring teams around the world and he brings his wisdom to our conversation. 

Elvis's Links

Sanfoka Consulting

Elvis LinkedIn

Sanfoka Case 


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041 Irwin Turbitt: An Adaptive Approach To Close The Knowing-Doing Gap03 May 202300:50:37

Episode 039  Irwin Turbitt comes to the swamp to share his complex and life altering journey from being a police commander in Northern Ireland to teaching and building leadership capacity at the Harvard Kennedy School and Oxford/Said Business school. 

Irwin had earned his teaching and consulting credentials the “harder way". He began on the streets of Northern Ireland by working on the century-old challenges for a peacefully resolve to the religious strife inside his country.

His personal leadership challenges plus his willingness to ask harder questions lead him to university to studying leadership in greater depth. There he discovered a new way to address hard, wicked problems through helping people close the “knowing-doing gap” by building more skill and leadership craft.

Irwin offers us experienced based ideas and opinions on what it takes to lead in this swampy world. We all can benefit from his experiences.  

Irwin’s Links

Irwin’s LinkedIn

Policing The Drumcree Demonstrations (a paper)





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040 Anne Gibbon: There is “No too hard and I’m walking away”26 Apr 202300:44:12

040 Anne Gibbon joins me to share how her father, the United States Naval Academy and her intuition all conspired to form the leader that she is today. Anne was both the 2007 Heavyweight National Amateur Boxing Championships and a Second-Team All-American rower, and was  inducted into the Academy Athletic Hall of Fame.  That was just the beginning of her leadership journey. We discuss her thoughts on Ethical leadership, the importance of emotional self-regulation and using power for good.

Today Anne is the co-founder of Matri, Inc. which helps critical decision-makers consume more information, intuitively, and faster, to make billion dollar decisions from previously invisible data. As you will learn, she senses this work has become her life’s work and that she is in it for the long haul. 

Given Anne’s track record, I suspect she is on the path to changing the world for the better. 

Anne’s Links

Matri, Inc.

Anne’s LinkedIn

Anne Boxing


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039 Benjamin Taylor: There are Problems with Adaptive Leadership AND Consulting19 Apr 202300:44:31

040_ Benjamin Taylor

Benjamin Taylor, RedQuadrant founder, returns to the Swamp for an enlightening conversation on two topics:

The Problem with Adaptive Leadership

The Problem with Consulting 

I asked Benjamin to return to the podcast (listen here to Episode #021) because he has clear and strong thinking on both adaptive leadership and the world of consulting.

Adaptive leadership is a bit of a mainstay in my consulting work and since I am a consultant, it was hard to resist discussing these two juicy Medium pieces. I respect Benjamin’s deep thinking on these topics so I suspected he would bring some grounding and provocative perspectives. He did all of that and more. Enjoy his critical thinking and his experience based point of view.

Benjamin's Links


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038 Eka Gigauri: I love my country20 Feb 202300:42:54

Eka Gigauri comes to the swamp to share her twenty year trek to establish transparency, accountability and social integrity in her country of Georgia. Her story begins with the Rose Revolution in Georgia in 2003 when the country separated from the Soviet Union. Today Eka is the Executive Director of Transparency International’s county office in Georgia. She leads a team committed to rooting out systems and networks of corruption inside her beloved country. Eka shares her thoughts and approach to being courageous and supporting her team while sticking with the fundamental work of building a Georgia for the common good. 


Eka’s Links

Transparency International

Transparency International/Georgia

Eka’s LinkedIn



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037 Julia Fabris McBride: When Everyone Leads01 Feb 202300:45:50

Julia Fabris McBride is the Interim President and CEO as well as the Chief Leadership Development Officer of Kansas Leadership Center. 

She is co-author with Ed O’Malley of the recently published book “When Everyone Leads”

The Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) is a one of a kind, non-profit organization committed to fostering leadership for stronger, healthier and more prosperous Kansas communities and around the world. 

Julia shares what she has learned about developing adaptive leadership capacity in the state of Kansas and beyond. Why civic leadership is important and what can happen when individuals marry the choice to lead with the capacity to to mobilize communities. 

Julia’s books can be found through these links:

When Everyone Leads (Bard Press, January 2023)

 Teaching Leadership: Case-in-Point, Case Teaching, and Coaching


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036 Rachel Musson: A Tempered Radical Reimagines Education25 Jan 202300:53:53

Rachel Musson comes to the Swamp to discuss how her organization, ThoughtBox Education, is reimagining education for kids around the world. Their work is helping students develop the relevant skills to create and sustain a thriving world. She shares the Triple Wellbeing Culture model that focuses on care for self, others and the world. We discuss the value of being a Tempered Radical and how to act like one. The work of reimagining education is complex and messy. Rachel and her team practice Active Patience to keep it all moving. We could all benefit from some active patience.

Rachel’s Links


www.rachelmusson79.com 

www.thoughtboxeducation.com

Leadership course!
www.thoughtboxeducation.com/be-more

Linkedin

Our ‘patrons’ page: www.thoughtboxeducation.com/patrons

A few resources / books / people mentioned:

  1. Active Hope – Chris Johnstone & Joanna Macy
  2. The More Beautiful World – Charles Eisenstein
  3. Bayo Akomolafe
  4. Rebecca Solnit – George Orwell’s Roses
  5. Schooling the World (a really recommended 1hr documentary which I may or may not have mentioned!)
  6. Tempered Radicals


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035 Kit Lykketoft: The Art of Convening and the Work of Sustaining18 Jan 202300:26:17

Kit Lykketoft is the Director of Conventions at Wonderful Copenhagen. The official tourism organization of the Capital Region of Copenhagen. Her work is attracting and convening international association conferences to the city while designing a sustainable agenda for attendees. Finding this balance is the challenge of leading. Kit brings a strategist and change maker mindset to proactively use research and future trends to design steps she and her team can take today that support the conference community and the wellbeing of the planet. 


Kitt’s Links:


Wonderful Copenhagen

https://www.wonderfulcopenhagen.com/wonderful-copenhagen/wonderful-copenhagen 


Best Cities: 

https://www.bestcities.net/about-us/meet-the-best-cities-team/


Interview https://kongres-magazine.eu/2021/11/kit-lykketoft-sustainability-has-become-part-of-copenhagens-dna/ 


Kitt on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdVeGzcrV1o



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034 Kush Doshi: All It Takes Is Just One Person11 Jan 202300:45:34

034 Kush Doshi jumps into the Swamp to share his views on leading inside a community health system. He brings his passion for advancing health efforts for communities of color and mobilizing health equity by addressing the social determinants of health within communities. But he doesn’t stop here. He is also an advocate for equity, inclusion, and diversity within the workforce so that reflects the population it serves. 



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033_Larisa Halilovic: Born to Lead and Mentor Women Around the World14 Dec 202200:49:23

033_Larisa Halilovic jumps into the Swamp to share her deep wisdom on leading and building teams. Her leadership journey began when she escaped her war torn country, became a refugee and learned how to adapt and thrive in a new country. Larisa has over twenty years of experience leading teams in the United Kingdom, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia. She has made it her personal mission to introduce and support mentorship programmes for women around the world. Larisa is a glowing source of energy, infectious and deeply wise. Her ideas will help us all lead just a touch better.

Larisa Links:

LinkedIN

TedX Talks
Emotional Intelligence in an Artificial World

Larisa Halilović: Core Values - Your Inner Compass


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032_Kurt O’Brien: Leadership Can Be Taught07 Dec 202200:41:35

032_Kurt O’Brien, friend, thought partner and leadership teacher comes to the Swamp to share his insights on how to teach leadership. Kurt brings 22+ years of experience helping emerging leaders in healthcare build their craft of leading. He shares what gives him hope for the future and reflects on the importance of balancing classroom learning with real world experiments.

Kurt Links:

Kurt’s website

Kurt’s Book


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067_ Eva Grosman: Centre for Democracy and Peacebuilding03 Jul 202400:42:04

Eva Grosman joins me in the swamp to share how her “life factory setting” which is based on hope and courage, has guided her in building the Centre for Democracy and Peacebuilding as well as a community of peacebuilders around the world. Listen close because Eva offers a multitude of specific, actionable moves each of us can take to lead on difficult challenges. Eva’s life work and impact is a model for the potency of personal agency. 

Eva’s Links

Centre For Democracy and Peacebuilding

LinkedIn


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031_Leen Gorissen: Building Our Future on Natural Intelligence30 Nov 202200:46:06

031_ Leen Gorissen: Biologist and founder of Center4NI takes us on a journey to reconnect us with our own Natural Intelligence. She asserts that the difficult conditions of our planet call for us to focus more on developing our Natural Intelligence than seeking artificial solutions. Leen shares the Story of Wolves. A remarkable regenerative example that demonstrates how nature provides all of us with the ways and means to restore health to planet earth. Leen is providing grounding for hope for our future if we are willing to use ourselves as agents of change. 

Leen's Links

Website

Book: Building the future of Innovation

Company Website Centre4NI

Book website: 

Book Video

Ted Talk


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030_Judy Rees - Clean Language: Opening Minds through the Potency of Metaphors.24 Nov 202200:39:28

030 _  Judy Rees shares how simple questions, sharp listening and exploring metaphors can access fresh ideas, improved strategies and sharper actions for addressing challenges and accessing more human potential.

Links

ReesMcCann

Books by Judy

Judy Rees’ Ebook

Clean Language: Revealing Metaphors and Opening Minds


The Five Minute Coach 

Buzzing Online Workshops 



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029_ Guillaume Wiatr: Building a Strategic Narrative is an act of leadership09 Nov 202200:42:57

029_ Guillaume Wiatr joins us in the swamp to explore the power of strategic narratives and why building one is an act of leadership. We will explore the difference between stories and narrative and how to use them both inside your team or organization to mobilize change. Guillaume will also talk about External Discipline and External Freedom and how to cultivate both through a reflective practice.

Guillaume's website: Metahelm

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028_Terry Rogers: Faces of Recovery24 Oct 202200:43:56

Terry Rogers has been a practicing physician for over 56 years. He was the director of respiratory and  critical care at Seattle Swedish Hospital,  served  a Senior Medical Officer and  CEO for King County Blue Shield.  He was also CEO of the Foundation for Healthcare Quality in Seattle.  He retired as Medical Director of Lakeside-Milam Recovery Centers and still sees patients on a weekly basis. Terry has given his life to the good health of other people.

Terry is also the author of Faces of Recovery,  a remarkable book that features before and after photos of patients who have been in a 28 day residential treatment program.  The visual alteration that occurs during treatment is stunning. Terry's photography provides these people with self-evidence that they can live a healthy life.

In our conversation, Terry talks candidly about the corrosive effects of alcohol and drugs, his own experiences and the power that art and photography can have in how we see ourselves and what we can achieve.

You can find Terry's book: Faces of Recovery via the links below


http://terryrogersphotography.com

Food For Thought Piece

https://readframes.com/food-for-thought-faces-of-recovery-by-terry-rogers/

https://www.blurb.com/b/11051952-faces-of-recovery 


 

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027_ Lea Ranalder: Sustainable Cities Advocate at work in Cairo19 Oct 202200:45:23

027_ Lea Ranalder is a committed advocate for building more sustainable cities. Her work with UN-Habitat is focused on developing more renewable energy resources that mitigate climate change in our greatest urban hubs. Cities are both the heartbeat of countries and vulnerable collectives that impact millions of lives everyday. Lea brings her years of experience and passion to facilitate the hard work helping cities, local government and stakeholders work together for the good of the commons.

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026_John Scherer: Facing The Tiger31 Aug 202200:45:44

026_John Scherer: Facing The Tiger 

John Scherer brings a lifetime of developing leaders around the world to the swamp. He shares what is possible when we face our tigers and the five deep questions we must answer to understand our purpose and power. As John says: “You don’t need to CHANGE yourself. You need to COME HOME to yourself. This changes EVERYTHING.”  John also shares how he mobilized a leadership movement in Poland. Enjoy a conversation with a man of great passion and joy and discover as he exhibits his own passion and purpose. 


Links:


https://scherercenter.com/



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025_Jole Berlage-Buccellati: Integral Coaching for Highly Sensitive People17 Aug 202200:43:36

025_Jole Berlage-Buccellati discusses the potential Highly Sensitive People bring to the world and the workplace. Jole’s coaching mission is to support the empowerment of highly-sensitive and highly-gifted people to self-actualize, embrace their sensuality, their talents, their power and their unique gifts. The four capacity building themes that guide her work are resilience, adaptability, joy and authenticity. All of us can benefit from understanding and leveraging these themes for growth in both our life and our work. Jole helps us understand how we can do that work.


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024_Annika Torseth: Community Impact Through Second Chances27 Jul 202200:49:30

024_Annika Torseth: Community Impact Through Second Chances. Jails are often the end of the road for many people. For a few, a jail is a place where a second chance might emerge. Annika Torseth, a forensic case manager joins the podcast and shares what she has learned about how to hold difficult conversations, building a trusting relationship and how to design a re-entry system that will support a better life on the outside. 


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023_Elizabeth Filippouli: A Leader For Women Around the World19 Jul 202200:47:38

In 2012, Elizabeth Filippouli raised her hand to lead. In so doing, she has fostered a movement to promote values-based thinking and accountability in leadership among women around the world. She has launched two organizations that support women building their capacity to lead inside a supportive community of peers and mentors. Global Thinkers Forum and Athena40 Forum are the containers for leadership capacity building that is spilling out across the world. Elizabeth is also an author. During the pandemic, she released From Women To The World: Letters For A New Century. Listen to her journey and get on board.


Global Thinkers Forum  https://www.globalthinkersforum.org/ 


Athena40 Forum  https://www.athena40forum.com/ 


Her Book: From Women To The World: Letters For A New Century


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022_Barton Parrott: Family Business in Transition06 Jul 202200:50:11

Families are complex human systems. Running a business is always a complex system. Put the two complexities together and there are bound to be swamp issues at work. Bart Parrott talks about the challenges family businesses face when transitions are happening. Given that each of us has a family and we all need to navigate life and career transitions, Bart offers some useful ideas and approaches to how we can “wise up” our transition process. Bart wants to know what you aspire to in the future and what you want to build together. 


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066_ Nick Ellem: The Leadership Learning Cycle25 Jun 202400:49:51

Nick Ellem comes to the Swamp to share a comprehensive exploration of Adaptive Leadership as well as his journey to teach and help people building adaptive capacity. Nick speaks directly to the reasons why many leadership development programs fall short of expectations. He then  introduces his antidote: The Leadership Learning Cycle which is built on four elements:  

  • Academy 
  • Lab
  • Podium
  • Temple 

The leadership learning cycle offers an integrated framework for building the range of capacities people need to build leadership craft. Enjoy a fresh approach to leadership development. 

Nick’s Links

LinkedIn

Leadership Learning Cycle



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021_Benjamin Taylor: The Abundance of Systems06 Jul 202200:48:41

021_Benjamin Taylor: This week I am talking with Benjamin Taylor about Systems Leadership, Barry Oshry and his deep commitment to transform public services. His core purpose is improving the lives of those most in need of support. Benjamin has built his consultancy, RedQuadrant, into a dynamic resource for helping UK governments agencies, charities and NGOs. The depth and breadth of his knowledge and experience in providing the most useful resource and intervention to match the situation is based on his mastery of multiple change frameworks and tools. And to prove it, he has brought his treasure chest and parked it just down below. Enjoy.


Benjamin Taylor Resources


The RedQuadrant tool shed

https://bit.ly/RQtoolshedshowandtell

 

Barry Oshry - There Is Now New Scientific Paradigm... Yet

https://www.powerandsystems.com/files/downloads/There%20is%20no%20new%20Paradigm.pdf

 

Systems Leadership Theory (second edition) - Macdonald et al

https://books.google.com/books?id=3v1cDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT574&lpg=PT574&dq=%22systems+leadership+theory%22+second+edition+macdonald&source=bl&ots=FVUWVFiPzJ&sig=ACfU3U1047d1WLFyiwxSMLUM7aRUjaExTg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwisnZuZm9f4AhWHZMAKHdB0Ca4Q6AF6BAgaEAM#v=onepage&q=%22systems%20leadership%20theory%22%20second%20edition%20macdonald&f=false

 

My rough systems thinking reading list

https://stream.syscoi.com/2020/05/06/a-very-rough-and-partial-draft-systems-thinking-reading-list/

 systems leadership theory-related

What is work?

https://chosen-path.org/2021/07/29/what-is-work-whats-your-definition/

 

systems leadership more broadly

Making sense of systems change and systems leadership

https://chosen-path.org/2021/06/21/making-sense-of-systems-change-and-systems-leadership/

#systemschange: the dangers of over-correcting in a good cause

https://chosen-path.org/2022/06/29/systemschange-often-over-correcting-in-a-good-cause/

‘power and systems’

The blue dot and the terrible dance of power

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020_Knights Jump into the Swamp29 Jun 202200:43:07

020_Knights: Knights Jump into the Swamp. We travel a different journey of leading in this episode. I am joined by four life-long friends. Bryan Garinger, Kevin Olson, Mark Eathorne and Rick Walker. These four men have been part of my life almost since birth. We shared a unique early life experience that has shaped and informed how we live our lives, how we show up in our work and how we choose to lead. This is a conversation about effective teams, wise authority and leading and working together. When you listen to our story, I hope you will remember how your early life experiences shaped who you are today. Knight Pride.


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019_Max Martina: Adaptive Leadership Leaves the Classroom.21 Jun 202201:01:14

Max Martina brings his deep experience with Adaptive Leadership and his classroom time with Ron Heifetz down to the swamp to share. This is a natural fit for both Max and we swamp dwellers. After all there is no difference between an adaptive challenge and a swamp issue. Max offers tight, specific points on how we can use ourselves to lead how we might do this work using adaptive leadership approaches. You will come away with a few new moves to support your leadership efforts. You will also learn what L=FOO(w) means.


https://cambridge-leadership.com/ 


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Rick Torseth: A Question Answered and Moves for Leading30 May 202200:21:56

018_Rick Torseth: A View From the Balcony #1 After a few month’s and several episodes, I’m pausing to answer the question: Why 10,000 Swamp Leaders? and 2) reflect on the mass shootings in Buffalo NY and Uvalde, Texas. I have no solutions AND I believe these events have exposed our elected Senators to be weak authority figures. The tragic events are also self-identifying many people who are choosing to raise their hand and lead without authority. In this short episode, we will highlight a few moves these people can make to mobilize the movement(s) they believe are necessary to end this epidemic of gun violence.


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